View Full Version : This is unbelievable!!
Anonymous
05-19-2004, 12:12 PM
I have been in the industry for 7 years, derm for most of it. This is the most ridiculous company and situation i have ever been associated with. To not have quotas/goals one month into a quarter in unheard of, let alone go an entire quarter without them.
I am a few weeks from jumping ship, and I feel sorry for those left here. Taro was smart in hiring people with no experience, cause they won't know any better. Sad thing is, when they go look for other jobs, Taro won't even provide them with any numbers to show someone, they are screwed.
the worst management i have ever seen.... EVER
Anonymous
05-19-2004, 12:14 PM
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I have been in the industry for 7 years, derm for most of it. This is the most ridiculous company and situation i have ever been associated with. To not have quotas/goals one month into a quarter in unheard of, let alone go an entire quarter without them.
I am a few weeks from jumping ship, and I feel sorry for those left here. Taro was smart in hiring people with no experience, cause they won't know any better. Sad thing is, when they go look for other jobs, Taro won't even provide them with any numbers to show someone, they are screwed.
the worst management i have ever seen.... EVER
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Who the fuck cares? Get your fat ass out on the street and bring me back some cash bitch!
Anonymous
05-19-2004, 05:26 PM
believe me dude, i will not be working between now and when i get my offer with another real pharma company. but please, you enjoy your time here without quotas, IC plans, leadership, ANY marketing department, or ops.
have fun sucker, sell those generic products.
the whole taropharma group will be toast in 2 months
Anonymous
05-21-2004, 06:18 PM
Isn't Taro an Asian Potato?
Anonymous
05-22-2004, 12:00 AM
Is CW still at Taro. She is the fakest person I have ever encountered in my career in the pharma industry. A typical company idiot with no character or integrity.
Anonymous
05-25-2004, 10:06 AM
You can go to CollaGenex, they didn't have quotas until Feb/March
Anonymous
05-25-2004, 02:00 PM
I IV'd for a position in the NE and didn't get it.
Looks like it was a blessing in disguise...
Anonymous
05-25-2004, 07:12 PM
Oooooohh.. big deal. It is almost the end of May and we still don't have ANYTHING!@!!#!%^##*!
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 11:16 AM
CW and upper mgmt should not be surprised to see people a mass exodus from this vessel. Mauro leaving along with everyone else within TP should be enough of an indication where this is going. Sorry. Face it, this is not a branded division- it is only a higher priced extension of Taro generic
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 11:31 AM
Can you expand on who "CW" is. Did "CW" come down from Canada? Aside from qouta's, what materials are needed to support your calls. What would increase the your credibility with the docs, pharmacists , etc.
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 05:30 PM
I think you know EXACTLY who "CW" is. This just proves again how the leadership at Taro operates. They act as if we are not the brightest folks on the planet. Please! How many more times can a co. insult the intelligence of its employees. If you have to ask what we need, you are in the WRONG business. Thank you for further proving our point.
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Geez- not everything is what it appears, and give me a freakin break! I ask a simple question and get your your crap! Stop being so paranoid and open a dialogue.
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 09:35 PM
In my experience every thing usually is what it seems. What is your interest in what we need, because it is obvious to me that you are not a rep. Did I touch a nerve?
Anonymous
05-26-2004, 09:49 PM
Lets get some info: How long has Toro been in biz? How have they paid bonus in the past? How did they explain to you how you would get paid in your interview? If they do not let you have the numbers, when do you see them, or how do you see them? Is everyone working on the the potential success of the company, any set training bonus etc? I feel for ya, but there sounds like there is more to the story!
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 08:55 AM
I try to approach new business with some basic research
and thought this thread presented an opportunity to get some feedback.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 01:47 PM
Hey Elan: You can have her back. We'll even throw in a Ronco Cook-o-matic, some ginsu knives and a case of the vinegar perfume she wears as a bonus. She's awful.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 05:42 PM
New business? You sound more like someone digging for info from the home office.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 05:46 PM
Whatever BS!
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 05:51 PM
dude your company must really be tanking because one of your DM's from the midwest just applied for a DM postion at my company healthpoint and we turned her down. my manager said she told our vp that your company is on the way down. you all better get off the bus quick before no one wants to touch you at all. good luck. it's better over here, trust me.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 06:29 PM
I totally agree. Rumor has it that your company refused to pay for data for you guys even though you made a profit for the company. We not have laptops, but I now what doc's are prescribing! What the hell is going on over there?
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 08:56 PM
No, I am not from Hawthorne, You really are paranoid, but why? I have a business and good intelligence comes from you folks. its Just business.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 08:59 PM
Sales reps! go figure. I don't think this has anything to do with Taro, but rather bad interviewing skills. Baed mouthing you company is really bad form.
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 09:33 PM
The truth hurts. Bad interviewing skills? Yeah right. This company has some of the best field reps in the industry. To try and place blame on them is just typical. Shifting the blame seems to be the MO of the leadership @ Taro. (I use the term "leadership" loosely.) This co. has DROPPED THE BALL! BOTTOM LINE! And everyone knows it. Doctors, competititors, etc. It's shameful! Why not take some responsibility and use this forum for what it is. A place to get valuable info from the reps that work for you. It could take the place of "Start, Stop, & Cont." (That lasted for all of 2 seconds.) But I honestly don't think that is what is important to Taro. Sad. Bad form please... if the shoe fits....
Anonymous
05-27-2004, 10:52 PM
Paranoid? Are you kidding me? That is laughable! If anyone is paranoid, it should be the people back at home office. It was once stated that there wasn't any turn-over at home office for 5 or 6 years. NOW, they can't keep anyone there. Either people are leaving on their own accord, or they are simply FIRED. Plus, it's great to know that all 60 territories are filled now...however wait, just wait...it is only a matter of time before we start dropping like flies and that will put everyone into a spin. I feel bad for the DM's that will have to hire for those open spots. It must be tiresome to constantly blow smoke up prospective reps a#% all the time. However, we will never know when there are open territories (because someone has departed)...home office doesn't like us talking about that. Paranoia in the field...hardly! Frustration, disgust, low morale, disbelief...that's more like it!
Anonymous
05-28-2004, 07:20 AM
You are right about the turnover in HO. It seems like anyone worth their salt has either been fired or left- even the President!!
Anonymous
05-28-2004, 12:06 PM
The president left? Who?
Anonymous
05-28-2004, 01:20 PM
Aaron Levitt
Anonymous
05-28-2004, 01:55 PM
I heard he was fired.
Anonymous
05-29-2004, 03:11 PM
I couldn't aggree more. Everyone knows that the executive level of management is aware of this board. All the managers told their reps after their conference call last Friday.
So instead of constantly checking this board like a coward CW should get the courage to "make a positive out of a negative."
It couldn't have been fun to log in to this board and read some of the hard-hearted and disparaging comments people have been making about you, especially knowing that all of the company is reading it. However, she should realize that because of her acrimonious attitude no one is willing to speak frankly & freely in this company without the justified fear of reciprocity.
Therefore my point:
Take this for what it is: an anonymous board where employees can truly speak their minds without being identified. CW should identify herself and begin asking the reps for an open dialog about how to improve the situation.
Instead she has chosen to eschew honest communication/dialog in favor of scripted conference calls where she abruptly ends the call before Barry and BS can hear what the reps have to say and what their concerns are!
I believe that is she started asking questions in this “safe” forum that people would begin to provide her direct and honest answers. And this board would begin to be a place where employees from our company could turn to get answers and openly communicate with each other.
To me this is what a true leader would do. But then again I guess that is what we are all questioning, where is the leadership at Taro?
To respond to a previous poster who commented on it being in bad taste to ridicule your own company, I have to disagree. In most situations I wouldn't be sitting here late on a Saturday afternoon typing this response in, but I care enough about my company and my job to want to make this situation better. An open and honest dialog is the only way this will ever happen!
Anonymous
05-30-2004, 03:14 PM
I couldn't have put it better myself.
Anonymous
06-01-2004, 07:52 AM
I think the poster who thought it was bad form to criticize
your company was referring to an interview situation. The original post was being very negative about Taro during an interview.
Anonymous
06-01-2004, 06:19 PM
Now that we know "they" know about this board, I am more insulted than ever! What a joke! Just goes to show you what kind of people we work for. They REALLY don't want to know how we really feel. Another BS conference call this week. Great! I can't wait to hear how "rehearsed" this one is. I guarantee we won't have any new answers after the call than we did before we logged on. Seriously, if you don't have any CONCRETE answers for us, DON"T WASTE OUR TIME!!!!
Anonymous
06-01-2004, 09:42 PM
Maybe its just about doing what you were hired to do! Stop all the pathetic whinning, step up to the plate and act like a professional. The only thing that seperates you from a Lexus sales person ( aside from overdressing ) is the hope that you know how to convey the therapeutic advantages of the drug you've been hired to sell.
Anonymous
06-01-2004, 11:21 PM
Narrator: Chicken Little was in the woods one day when an acorn fell on her head. It scared her so much she trembled all over. She shook so hard, half her feathers fell out.
Chicken Little: "Help! Help! The sky is falling! I have to go tell the king!"
Narrator: So she ran in great fright to tell the king. Along the way she met Henny Penny.
Henny Penny: "Where are you going, Chicken Little?"
Chicken Little: "Oh, help! The sky is falling!"
Henny Penny: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Henny Penny: "This is terrible, just terrible! We'd better hurry up."
Narrator: So they both ran away as fast as they could. Soon they met Ducky Lucky.
Ducky Lucky: "Where are you going, Chicken Little and Henny Penny?"
Chicken Little & Henny Penny: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling! We're going to tell the king!"
Ducky Lucky: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head."
Ducky Lucky: "Oh dear, oh dear! We'd better run!"
Narrator: So they all ran down the road as fast as they could. Soon they met Goosey Loosey walking down the roadside.
Goosey Loosey "Hello there. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "We're running for our lives!"
Henny Penny: "The sky is falling!"
Ducky Lucky: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Goosey Loosey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Goosey Loosey: "Goodness! Then I'd better run with you."
Narrator: And they all ran in great fright across a field. Before long they met Turkey Lurkey strutting back and forth..
Turkey Lurkey: "Hello there, Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, and Goosey Loosey. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "Help! Help!"
Henny Penny: "We're running for our lives!"
Ducky Lucky: "The sky is falling!"
Goosey Loosey: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Turkey Lurkey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Turkey Lurkey: "Oh dear! I always suspected the sky would fall someday. I'd better run with you."
Narrator: So they ran with all their might, until they met Foxy Loxy.
Foxy Loxy: "Well, well. Where are you rushing on such a fine day?"
Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, Turkey Lurkey (together) "Help! Help!" It's not a fine day at all. The sky is falling, and we're running to tell the king!"
Foxy Loxy: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Foxy Loxy: "I see. Well then, follow me, and I'll show you the way to the king."
Narrator: So Foxy Loxy led Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, and Turkey Lurkey across a field and through the woods. He led them straight to his den, and they never saw the king to tell him that the sky is falling.
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 01:14 AM
We're doing what we were hired to do - get doctors to prescribe our drugs. That's the bottom line. We're making the calls, we're changing prescribing habits (we have to take the doctors' word for it, after all, we don't have any data). How is the sales force not stepping up to the plate? Give us the data, quotas, etc and we'll do an even better job. With the right tools the reps and the home office will win. Right now I feel like I've been given a dose of prison love and it's BS.
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 01:22 AM
Differences between us and a Lexus Salesperson? Who cares if we ARE the same thing as a Lexus Salesperson? What point are you trying to make? Whining? Guess what, Sherlock, when people aren't given the right tools for over a year, whining (as well as turnover) is to be expected. I've been in the industry for several years, have many friends who have been in the industry for several years - NOBODY has had a more frustrating time than we have had over the past year.
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 09:34 AM
So, where we hired to "drop off" samples? Because that is not what I thought I was hired to do. You truly must not have much knowledge of the pharmaceutical industry (this actually explains alot.) There are tools that are necessary for reps to be successful. Representatives NEED data. We NEED goals. We NEED call lists. I don't feel our "whinning" is unwarranted. So why don't you pull your head out of your a** and DO SOMETHING because you obviously have NO understanding of how a REAL BRANDED SALES FORCE should be run! We were hired to sell product- not be a well-dressed delivery people!
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 07:04 PM
CW, why didn't you sign your name! Step up to the plate; Stop your whining, ACT LIKE A PROFESSIONAL! As Sinatra sang, "It Has To Be You". Only you would compare a Lexus salesPERSON to a derm rep. In car sales the customers go to the car dealership. In derm, the reps go to the doctors, 20 offices a day, right CW? That's a little different don't you think? You're the Peter Principle on steroids.
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 08:47 PM
We know you have been reading this thread. From last Friday there were 261 views of this thread. Today there are 699. EVERYBODY is reading this thread. This is a great opportunity to turn a negative into a positive. Why don't YOU step up to the plate and act like a professional? You are just solidifying everything that is written about you on this board.
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 10:43 PM
Coonfessions are good for the soul. YOur "CW" did make any of these posts, nor did your office in Hawthorn. I've been in the pharma biz for about 20 years and really find that only a small margijn of reps really understand the dynamics of the
medical end of the business. Come tomy office with some real data, convince me that your product deserves a patients use and respect my concerns for prescribing the most effective product and not based on the lunches you buy my staff. Tell me why I should entrust my professional faith in your product and I'll probably respect you more!
Anonymous
06-02-2004, 11:08 PM
1 years experience times 20, you hand job.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 01:02 AM
Whoever this is is obviously not a rep. Nor is it anybody with any pharm sales experience. If you really had 20 years in the ''pharma biz'' you'd know that what we're asking for are just the basic tools that every other pharma company provides their reps. Are you sure those 20 years weren't spent sucking on a bong?
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 09:22 AM
I'll clarify.... 20 years in healthcare and I've seen more sales reps in a day trying to push the companys sales message that barely resembles any valid therapeutic information. You have good products.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 09:52 AM
It sure seems that the poster with 20 yrs. in the "pharma biz" has been sucking on a bong, maybe even an exhaust pipe because he clearly cannot communicate effectively. Seriously, you should proof-read what you are going to post before you submit it. You sound very uneducated.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 12:59 PM
You all seem like very bitter people. If you hate Taro so much and are so frustrated, why don't you just leave and get a new job, especially since you think you are so good and can do better somewhere else!
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 01:32 PM
You people are a bunch of idiots with too much free time. It's funny that most of your posts are on Memorial Day weekend.....is that the fun all you losers have to do on a holiday weekend????? I say get your resumes together, get a new job, and get a LIFE.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 02:33 PM
Believe me, when Taro finally pays the $$$ they owe its reps you will see many people leave. I don't think "bitter" is the correct term to use. Disgusted, let down, dumbfounded would be better terms to describe the folks on this board. I am guessing you are a lowly Admin writing in from Hawthorne (with nothing better to do with your time), which would explain your jealousy of field sales reps. If you knew anything regarding the pharma industry you would realize that we are not asking for much. Just the bare essentials to do our job. Why don't you stick to what you know (which probably isn't much), and mind your own business.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 03:17 PM
Listen loser, I know all about IC plans, quotas, target lists, bonuses, and all the data necessary to perform your job as a sales rep, but all I am saying is if you don't like where you work, why are you sitting at home on your PC complaining about it? Just get a new job somewhere else.
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 10:31 PM
Thank you Mr. or MRs anal retentive. Talk to me about therapeutics and not some repetitive robot like recital of what you learned at you 3 day sales training program at some holiday inn. Take responsibility for your future and stop complaining about how someone owes you.
As far as education, 13 years and I still have terrible handwriting and grammer. You should have gone to a company with a good proctology product. Then you could have related better to the othe A-Holes....
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 10:35 PM
I really like this board. I'm a laborer in the west and so far I've managed to make you moronsbeleive you are argueing
with every one from your boss to other sales peoples. You are all great "toys"
Anonymous
06-03-2004, 10:53 PM
Whatever, Hannibal Lector.
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 02:41 AM
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Whatever BS!
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Hi CW, How is CG doing, nice to see he is over there with you, another good addition, let himknow that AM had slept with half of Elan before it shut down, it is nice he left his wife and kids for her. Another example of the ethicial people you like CW.
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 02:56 AM
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Narrator: Chicken Little was in the woods one day when an acorn fell on her head. It scared her so much she trembled all over. She shook so hard, half her feathers fell out.
Nice one CW, you could be the only person that would post this, you just do not get it, grow up, and start to lead, you think you are dealing with children, but you are not. This kind of attitude is why Taro stinks and is why Elan fell. Start treating us like people and not children, you are very harsh and have favorites, if you get questioned or critized you get rid of people. You should start rethinking your methods and take a step back, look at your carrer, and see that some of the many people you stepped on were right, you just SUCK!!!! You allign yourself with dumb people CG, who never question you are are not threatening to you. These people will say yes to anything you say or do, without question. You hire your friends who are unqualified and sit around daydreaming about being "An antroadinary Executive" But they are not. CW please stop this and fix yourself first then the company, I beg you.
Chicken Little: "Help! Help! The sky is falling! I have to go tell the king!"
Narrator: So she ran in great fright to tell the king. Along the way she met Henny Penny.
Henny Penny: "Where are you going, Chicken Little?"
Chicken Little: "Oh, help! The sky is falling!"
Henny Penny: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Henny Penny: "This is terrible, just terrible! We'd better hurry up."
Narrator: So they both ran away as fast as they could. Soon they met Ducky Lucky.
Ducky Lucky: "Where are you going, Chicken Little and Henny Penny?"
Chicken Little & Henny Penny: "The sky is falling! The sky is falling! We're going to tell the king!"
Ducky Lucky: "How do you know?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head."
Ducky Lucky: "Oh dear, oh dear! We'd better run!"
Narrator: So they all ran down the road as fast as they could. Soon they met Goosey Loosey walking down the roadside.
Goosey Loosey "Hello there. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "We're running for our lives!"
Henny Penny: "The sky is falling!"
Ducky Lucky: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Goosey Loosey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Goosey Loosey: "Goodness! Then I'd better run with you."
Narrator: And they all ran in great fright across a field. Before long they met Turkey Lurkey strutting back and forth..
Turkey Lurkey: "Hello there, Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, and Goosey Loosey. Where are you all going in such a hurry?"
Chicken Little: "Help! Help!"
Henny Penny: "We're running for our lives!"
Ducky Lucky: "The sky is falling!"
Goosey Loosey: "And we're running to tell the king!"
Turkey Lurkey: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Turkey Lurkey: "Oh dear! I always suspected the sky would fall someday. I'd better run with you."
Narrator: So they ran with all their might, until they met Foxy Loxy.
Foxy Loxy: "Well, well. Where are you rushing on such a fine day?"
Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, Turkey Lurkey (together) "Help! Help!" It's not a fine day at all. The sky is falling, and we're running to tell the king!"
Foxy Loxy: "How do you know the sky is falling?"
Chicken Little: "I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears, and part of it fell on my head!"
Foxy Loxy: "I see. Well then, follow me, and I'll show you the way to the king."
Narrator: So Foxy Loxy led Chicken Little, Henny Penny, Ducky Lucky, Goosey Loosey, and Turkey Lurkey across a field and through the woods. He led them straight to his den, and they never saw the king to tell him that the sky is falling.
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Anonymous
06-05-2004, 03:08 AM
Anotherthing that is wrong other then not having data or quotas is the samples, were are the samples boxes, it looks very unprofessional leaving samples in ziplock bags.
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 09:34 AM
Perhaps they were the "generic" store brand bags and not Ziplock. Taro questioned my expenses for a stupid hamburger.
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 01:44 PM
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dude your company must really be tanking because one of your DM's from the midwest just applied for a DM postion at my company healthpoint and we turned her down. my manager said she told our vp that your company is on the way down. you all better get off the bus quick before no one wants to touch you at all. good luck. it's better over here, trust me.
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I can not belive that Mary interviewed for Healhpoint, I thought Mary told CW she was her most loyal employee, I told you Mary that this was a sinking ship
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 01:55 PM
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I really like this board. I'm a laborer in the west and so far I've managed to make you moronsbeleive you are argueing
with every one from your boss to other sales peoples. You are all great "toys"
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Why would a laborer form the west bother with this little board or even care about TARO, nice try CW or this even sounds like CG, hey CG, AM is not even good in bed, you know she slept with half of Elan, she is not worth leaving your wife and small kids for, (like you did you jerk) When she first met you 3 years ago when you were both with Elan, she stated that,"CG does not seem or look like a very bright person, you can look at him and see gears turning in his head, He seems like the lights are on but no one is home, he seems clueless, Good thing he is related to CG" You are a very ethicial person, the only reason you are were you are is because you are someone's cousin. What out CG, Am may be getting ready to go through TARO also.
Anonymous
06-05-2004, 10:20 PM
Indeed, I pound nails in new homes all day, found this board by accident and continue to have a great deal of fun with
you paranoid minds. To much weed dude!!!
Anonymous
06-06-2004, 07:38 PM
I slept with AM, my brother slept with AM, AM has seen more weiners than the hot dog vendor at Dodger Stadium
Anonymous
06-07-2004, 06:56 PM
Get a f***ken LIFE! Go pound some nails up your a**, you freak! Seriously, you are creepy! I am actually more freaked out if you are being honest about being a laborer. Whoever called you "Hannibal" was on target.
Anonymous
06-07-2004, 07:06 PM
This is totally someone from the home office. No way would some red neck "laborer" just stumble across this board.
Anonymous
06-07-2004, 10:01 PM
Red neck laborer! why how dare you!!! After a baschelors degree and a masters degree I found happiness in building!
YOu folks are really arrogant, paranoid little creeps. I don't know who or what all these initials are or mean, but I'll tel you all that I'm better educated, better of finacialy and a whole lot happier then either of you miserable , whining, overdressed wannabe's. have a nice life!
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 11:59 AM
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Red neck laborer! why how dare you!!! After a baschelors degree and a masters degree I found happiness in building!
YOu folks are really arrogant, paranoid little creeps. I don't know who or what all these initials are or mean, but I'll tel you all that I'm better educated, better of finacialy and a whole lot happier then either of you miserable , whining, overdressed wannabe's. have a nice life!
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Yeah, I can tell all that education really paid off.
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 12:39 PM
baschelors degree ???? Well I guess you didn't win the spelling bee.
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 08:08 PM
I am getting a kick out of all of this. I used to work for a company that CW and CG both worked for. Both are idiots. Complete idiots. But what else is new in this industry? CW is by far the most fake person I have ever come into contact with in this industry. She should be on the home shopping network. Sorry to hear about all the problems at Taro. Maybe things will get better provided CW and CG get the boot.
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 08:58 PM
Wishful thinking.
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 09:24 PM
I cannot believe that Carol has not addressed this board. I guess I shouldn't expect anything different from her, but seriously, I can't believe she can go on acting like everything is okay. This situation is a total mess, and it doesn't look like it is getting any better. The postings on this board may be from a small group of frustrated sales reps, but I think 99% of the sales force feels the same about what is going on. My advice to the reps would be to look for another job, if you haven't already found one. This situation is never going to change. Look at the people manning the ship. They are not respected, and rightfully so. Everything written on this board regarding the leadership at Taro is on target. I have a feeling that when bonuses are finally paid there will be a slew of people jumping ship. Who the hell is going to replace them? Anyone with a pulse would never entertain a job opportunity with Taro. This is career suicide.
Anonymous
06-08-2004, 10:24 PM
At least I'm not a sales rep! AKA delivery boy.
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 09:40 AM
No, your just an idiot.
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 09:41 AM
Excuse me...You are just an idiot.
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 09:43 AM
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At least I'm not a sales rep! AKA delivery boy.
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What the hell are you doing on this board if you are not a sales rep? My guess is that you are an idiot from the home office. Get a life loser!
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 03:36 PM
Hang in there guys&girls I hear CW is on her way out
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 07:45 PM
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Excuse me...You are just an idiot.
[/ QUOTE ]Hey Carol there you go again, calling names and insulting people, just sign your name and come clean we all know you watch this board and try to enter your little stabs, but face it you stink and your fat and ugly too. Maybe you will finally get what you desirve.
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 08:31 PM
How rude. If I recall, the application for a sales rep asks you to check the most appropriate box that describes you personality:
- Idiot
- Village idiot
- Moron
- self absorbed
I guess I should be OK with being called only an idiot
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 08:33 PM
CW is staying at the HO, there is nobody left to fire (let go). They still have not told the HO staff what happened to the president. I spoke with someone who works in Hawthorn, she told me "the president" is on vacation LMAO!
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 08:34 PM
I'm a bit confused. I thought Taro was a first generation
family run business. Doesn't Levin run the show?
Anonymous
06-09-2004, 08:38 PM
It sounds like a bit of hysteria. I'm fairly close to the top
( no ego intended) and I see alot of growth in OTC, and
delivery systems such as those found in the new pediatric cough cold meds.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 10:11 AM
This discussion is not about the market and whether there is a place for new delivery systems. Its about CW and whether she can deliver. DA.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 02:32 PM
so, in other words, your just interested in some boss bashing
(deserved or not) that you have no control over, rather then
focusing on the business? Sounds like a bunch of gossips and
spitefull people. If you really believe this all has some real value then put your name where your mouth is, or go back to reading the Inquirer at the check out at Walmart!
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 03:54 PM
Another glimpse of home-office stupidity. Basically you are saying that if there is business potential there is no need for management…. Well I think your argument has just made your position redundant. Please pack your things.
What we need are leaders. CW and your-self just aren’t.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 04:40 PM
I totally agree with you, and could not have put it better myself! I am afraid that this is the mentality of everyone in the HO. They have been very fortunate (lucky) in generics and OTC's. I don't think they had any business thinking they could compete with the big boys in a branded pharma arena. I don't think there was much thought put in to bring on an entire branded sales force. So sad.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 04:52 PM
People! Wake up and smell the doggie-do! We (TaroPharma reps) are a means to an end for this organization. It is clear that the we are no longer needed for what they originally hired us for. Get used to being a delivery person for the OTC group. ElixSure anyone? Seriously, they are just useing us for what they can, and who knows what the next thing will be. This co. operates by the seat of its pants, and whatever suites them best in the interm is what we will be doing. Their is NO direction, NO focus. If they were really as dedicated to us as they say they are, don't you think we would have had the tools we need ages ago? The writting is on the WALL!!!
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 08:22 PM
Taro is family run but the Levin brothers got into a spat. The younger brother was sent packing.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 08:31 PM
You people act like you are indentured slaves. You get paid. You get benefits and with this you get to enjoy your life which is more then many can do as pharma continues to down size.
You are free to make choices so please stop complaining or find a better company. Who ever this CW is, I doubt that one person could be the root of each and everyone of your problems. It really makes many of us sick to see
you keep a job and complain about it. No offense but its you guys who lack direction.
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 08:48 PM
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Taro is family run but the Levin brothers got into a spat. The younger brother was sent packing.
[/ QUOTE ]
It is Levitt, not Levin
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 08:53 PM
[QUOTE]
You people act like you are indentured slaves. You get paid. You get benefits and with this you get to enjoy your life which is more then many can do as pharma continues to down size.
You are free to make choices so please stop complaining or find a better company. Who ever this CW is, I doubt that one person could be the root of each and everyone of your problems. It really makes many of us sick to see
you keep a job and complain about it. No offense but its you guys who lack direction.
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If you don't want to hear us complain, stay off this f**king board. Mind your own damn business. CW is Carol Wells, although I find it hard to believe that you didn't know that. And I don't think it is entirely her fault. It is the entire upper management team at Taro. I am sooooooo sorry it makes you "sick" to hear us complain about this messed up situation, but this OUR board to complain about it! So go blow yourself!
Anonymous
06-10-2004, 09:55 PM
Geez- some real issues with anger. Calm down, and find some real help. I can see why you have so many problems on the job. Your the reason companies install metal detectors
at the front door.
Anonymous
06-11-2004, 01:16 AM
You want to discuss "our great benefits" and our "wonderful" HR department...that is a whole other can of worms...again, we are left scratching our heads wondering if anyone at HO knows what is going on.
Anonymous
06-11-2004, 01:29 AM
REDNECK! Are you trying to convince us or yourself that you're happy pounding nails for a living? I think it's an excuse b/c you know you can't cut it in a white-collar job. It's not just your grammar thats bad, it's your whole thought process. You really sound mentally challenged, so I feel bad having to give you a verbal spanking. Are your degrees from beauty college? I think the nails you are pounding are found on people's hands. I swear I've seen you in a movie... Happy Gilmore - you're Happy's boss at the construction site who gets hit with the nail gun. Enjoy your white-trash life. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/laugh.gif
Anonymous
06-11-2004, 08:41 AM
I bet you like to give all the boys "a spanking" you elitest
overdressed, self centered, stereotyping, racist! You probably hate your job because your a failure at what you do and can't earn the money to keep you in a lifestyle you think you deserve. Try making a succesfull sales call instead of spending your days at Talbots or the short and stocky mens- wear department looking for marked down designer suites.
Redneck? With a masters degree and a 3 figure income, I have no regrets about an honest job.
Anonymous
06-11-2004, 04:19 PM
Silly Redneck. Sounds like you've been spanked a lot. You really aren't very smart, are you? I'm actually one of the few on this board who likes their job. I'm also good at it and make plenty of money to keep me happy. I heard about this board through the grapevine, started reading it for laughs, and found your input to be ripe for the picking. I kind of feel sorry for you, it's like picking on a child. The 'honest job' line isn't convincing anyone, you can't hack a white-collar job and it drives you nuts. Now put on your clown costume and go back to the circus. The rest of us adults have some whining to do until we get our data and bonus money. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/laugh.gif
Anonymous
06-12-2004, 11:51 AM
To the rep from Healthpoint: Could this be the former NO rep who is now in TX with the initials L D??? Word has it that you took a BIG pay cut to get your job at Healthpoint. Not the wisest move. What type of pipeline does HP have. We have heard : not much. Physicians don't write any of your products. Not in my area of the country anyway. Derms don't have any respect for your company! ! ! ! So you think that you are much better off where you are? ? ?
Anonymous
06-12-2004, 06:13 PM
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You want to discuss "our great benefits" and our "wonderful" HR department...that is a whole other can of worms...again, we are left scratching our heads wondering if anyone at HO knows what is going on.
[/ QUOTE ]
<font color="orange"> </font> Yes the "wonderful" HR department, rude, crude, and downright nasty!
Anonymous
06-13-2004, 09:24 AM
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[QUOTE]
dude your company must really be tanking because one of your DM's from the midwest just applied for a DM postion at my company healthpoint and we turned her down. my manager said she told our vp that your company is on the way down. you all better get off the bus quick before no one wants to touch you at all. good luck. it's better over here, trust me.
[/ QUOTE ]
I can not belive that Mary interviewed for Healhpoint, I thought Mary told CW she was her most loyal employee, I told you Mary that this was a sinking ship
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MT did talk with HP but it's not that HP didn't want her. She didn't want HP. They weren't able to meet her base salary requirements. The HP rep should really get her facts straight before shooting her mouth off regarding a situation she really knows nothing about.
Anonymous
06-13-2004, 05:01 PM
This bulletin board gets funnier by the hour, did you see the coupon for Elixsure in the Sunday paper? Buy 2 get $5 off. Who buys two? Unless you are the woman in Pennsylvania that had 6 kids, what the F--K do you need 2 bottles for. How many times does a child get sick? Unless daddy keeps a bottle in his liquor shelf, what the F--K do you need 2 for? I am puzzled. Oh well another marketing flop. Cant wait until 2Q nubmers come out.
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 12:15 AM
Hey stupid ass . . . . . .you sell the stuff. Don't you know that you could buy one of the Fever/pain and one of the Cough. Or you could buy one of the Cough and one of the Congestion. Need I go on?????
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 04:17 PM
The Levitt brothers you idiot not Levin!!!!
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 06:05 PM
Hey does everyone remember Puerto Rico, lets talk about our memories.
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 07:25 PM
[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
dude your company must really be tanking because one of your DM's from the midwest just applied for a DM postion at my company healthpoint and we turned her down. my manager said she told our vp that your company is on the way down. you all better get off the bus quick before no one wants to touch you at all. good luck. it's better over here, trust me.
[/ QUOTE ]
I can not belive that Mary interviewed for Healhpoint, I thought Mary told CW she was her most loyal employee, I told you Mary that this was a sinking ship
[/ QUOTE ]
MT did talk with HP but it's not that HP didn't want her. She didn't want HP. They weren't able to meet her base salary requirements. The HP rep should really get her facts straight before shooting her mouth off regarding a situation she really knows nothing about.
[/ QUOTE ]
MT is an old drunk, that is wht she did not get the job, she sucks
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 07:49 PM
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Hey does everyone remember Puerto Rico, lets talk about our memories.
[/ QUOTE ]
Are you serious? That was the WORST meeting I have ever attended! What a waste of time!
Anonymous
06-14-2004, 07:56 PM
I agree 100%. A couple reps came up to me and said they felt like our group (TaroPharma) was the red-headed stepchildren of the organization. I laughed my ass off, but couldn't agree more.
Anonymous
06-15-2004, 11:00 PM
The National Sales Meeting was a JOKE. It was horrible! There was nothing positive about it. Morale was low, the food was bad, the awards banquet was torture, plus on top of that, half of the sales force got flea bites from the meeting room (they must have come from the dogs in HO). Nothing NEW was learned. What the company should have done was given the reps the money that it cost each of us to go there. Then, my morale would have increased, I would have more than a stale muffin and hard butter for breakfast, and I could have gone out an bought my own Mont Blanc pen. Can't anyone at HO figure out, that all we want are numbers, goals, and to be told the TRUTH! So, I wonder what the next POA is going to be like...
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 10:59 AM
i'd jump ship while it's you still can - i've heard rumors that the whole business is going under. it's what happens when you let the company be run by the whims of a few people with very short tempers, but what can you expect from leadership with no clue. everyone would be better off if they go out and find a new job. job security is a joke, the benefits aren't great, pay isn't great, and besides, even if all that was ok, who wants to work for a company with no ethics, no morals, and nothing going for it.
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 11:01 AM
[QUOTE]
i'd jump ship while it's you still can - i've heard rumors that the whole business is going under. it's what happens when you let the company be run by the whims of a few people with very short tempers, but what can you expect from leadership with no clue. everyone would be better off if they go out and find a new job. job security is a joke, the benefits aren't great, pay isn't great, and besides, even if all that was ok, who wants to work for a company with no ethics, no morals, and nothing going for it.
[/ QUOTE ]
Couldn't agree more! Get off of your lazy ass and do something about getting out of there if you're so miserable.
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 12:02 PM
Interesting 2 minutes between the last 2 posts. Must be someone talking to themselves to stir up the room. Just like Norman Bates talking to his mom......LOSER!!!!!!!
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE]
[QUOTE]
i'd jump ship while it's you still can - i've heard rumors that the whole business is going under. it's what happens when you let the company be run by the whims of a few people with very short tempers, but what can you expect from leadership with no clue. everyone would be better off if they go out and find a new job. job security is a joke, the benefits aren't great, pay isn't great, and besides, even if all that was ok, who wants to work for a company with no ethics, no morals, and nothing going for it.
[/ QUOTE ]
Couldn't agree more! Get off of your lazy ass and do something about getting out of there if you're so miserable.
[/ QUOTE ]
Hey DIP SH**! As soon as we get our freakin' $$$$ we WILL!!!! God you are stupid!
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 12:17 PM
[QUOTE]
Interesting 2 minutes between the last 2 posts. Must be someone talking to themselves to stir up the room. Just like Norman Bates talking to his mom......LOSER!!!!!!!
[/ QUOTE ]
hmmm - i posted the 2nd cause i went on and i replied to the first post that was there - maybe you're just mad cause i was speaking the truth and you are a lazy ass who will settle for anything... get off it
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 12:18 PM
[QUOTE]
Interesting 2 minutes between the last 2 posts. Must be someone talking to themselves to stir up the room. Just like Norman Bates talking to his mom......LOSER!!!!!!!
[/ QUOTE ]
Hey MORON!
Why don't you look at the bottom of this thread and you will see how many viewers on on this board at the same time! Pull you f**king head out of your huge ass and use it. Nice attempt at trying to burn someone, you a-hole.
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 12:25 PM
This company cannot hack it with the players in BIG Pharma. I once heard it was the chairman's dream to have a branded sales force. Someone might want to tell him to wake up and smell the coffee!
Anonymous
06-16-2004, 03:04 PM
I think about seventy-five people left this year alone.
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 06:07 AM
Shut up, you are probably some whacko lonely single girl from the home office who is sleeping with 3 guys from the HO. The sales force gets the rumors just like the HO staff. Hope you don't get preggo!
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 08:20 AM
seriously - what the hell does that have to do with anything... maybe you are one of the ones who wishes you were with me.
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 09:10 AM
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seriously - what the hell does that have to do with anything... maybe you are one of the ones who wishes you were with me.
[/ QUOTE ]
What the hell are you two morons talking about?
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 09:43 AM
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seriously - what the hell does that have to do with anything... maybe you are one of the ones who wishes you were with me.
[/ QUOTE ]
Two words for you Puerto Rico Room 231 !!!! HA HA HA
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 03:43 PM
Able Pharmaceuticals = Taro South http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/blush.gif)
Anonymous
06-17-2004, 10:51 PM
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Able Pharmaceuticals = Taro South http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/blush.gif)
[/ QUOTE ]
I am sorry, but I just don't get it! What do you mean????
Anonymous
06-18-2004, 05:07 AM
CW
Anonymous
06-18-2004, 11:04 AM
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CW
[/ QUOTE ]
Are you saying that she is going to Able Pharmaceuticals? Gosh, if that is true, they must REALLY suck!
Anonymous
06-19-2004, 08:27 AM
The Chairman's dream! The Chairman's vision! Are you serious? Dr. Barrie Levitt? Barrie with an "ie"? The guy who got in a snit and fired his own brother, the CEO of the company. The same guy who "resigned" from the FDA in 1991......Dr. "Even Keel".
Is it just me or does Barrie have something else going on? I think he's the Travelocity Gnome. Throw a pointy hat on the guy and there you are. Stature's the same; though the Gnome seeems nicer. I'm sure that's him in that commercial riding in the car with the Lawn Jockey. Has anybody ever seen Barrie and the Gnome together? Let's get some feedback going on this one.
You suck ups in the HO chime in.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 08:22 AM
Was there any truth in the threat that there would be a mass exodus after the bonuses were paid out? I was just wondering what everyone else was doing.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 09:36 AM
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The Chairman's dream! The Chairman's vision! Are you serious? Dr. Barrie Levitt? Barrie with an "ie"? The guy who got in a snit and fired his own brother, the CEO of the company. The same guy who "resigned" from the FDA in 1991......Dr. "Even Keel". Is it just me or does Barrie have something else going on? I think he's the Travelocity Gnome. Throw a pointy hat on the guy and there you are. Stature's the same; though the Gnome seeems nicer. I'm sure that's him in that commercial riding in the car with the Lawn Jockey. Has anybody ever seen Barrie and the Gnome together? Let's get some feedback going on this one.
You suck ups in the HO chime in.
[/ QUOTE ]
Haaa Haaa haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!! That is the greatest post I have read yet! And yes, he might just be the Travelocity Gnome! Lord knows he definitely must have something else going on!
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 11:55 AM
youze guys are just a bunch of jealous losers. Jesus C allmighty, you wont even iddentify yourselfs.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 12:58 PM
Jealous of what? Are you kidding me? By the way, learn how to spell.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 02:14 PM
leave me aloen i think Taro is a great place to wok.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 05:44 PM
And why do you think this place is so great? Do you see figments? Are you delusional? Maybe you should explain to me these grandeous ideas of this company, because on my list, there are no pros and only cons. Are you one of those that CW has gloated about on forever long voicemails and you are assumed "untouchable." You must be, because only an idiot would say this company is great. Wake up and see what is going on. Please, share with me your views. This should be interesting.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 06:08 PM
This place SUCKS!!!! I wanted to vomit when I heard Carol's last VM regarding ic plan, qoutas, etc. It is like she enjoys messing with us. This is BEYOND insultiing!!! It is like some sick inside joke with the gnome and other home office higher ups. Why the HELL would she announce that she has all of our info (ie quotas etc) in her hot little hands, only to not pass any of it on to us? I believe EVERY nasty comment made on these boards about Carol Wells. She is not a leader! I just do not understand how she got to where she is today. This whole situation is a joke.
By the way, why did Barrie "resign" from the FDA? Did he throw a temper tantraum, and someone from the organization saw his true colors? I would love to know the story behind that. Although nothing would surprise me at this point. This co operates with no morals or ethics. I am KICKING myself for EVER leaving my last co.
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 06:40 PM
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leave me aloen i think Taro is a great place to wok.
[/ QUOTE ]
Oh, honey. You make it too easy. I actually feel bad for you if you think this is a good place to work. You are probably part of the "special" program at Taro. Did you ride the short bus to school?
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 07:07 PM
Agree 100%. And, let me guess, you left your last job under the assumption that you were in line for great bonus potential and the opportunity for career and personal growth. The fact that the numbers are out there and bonuses are getting ready to be paid, makes me question why they haven't been shared. Is CW tweaking the bonuses with her "$15,000" supplemental bonus money, for those chosen few. How can an IC plan have such a huge grey hole? We are professional sales people, whom, for the last 7 months have gotten up everyday and worked for this company under the assumption that we would have numbers next week, no next week, no next week...It seems as though it is a vicious circle that HO can't break. We are making the company money. We hear VM's about that. Now pay us and pay us fairly for our efforts!
Anonymous
06-21-2004, 10:57 PM
"DON'T forget your hat! Don't FORGET your hat! Don't forget YOUR hat! Don't forget your HAT! Somebody help me out here. I'm having trouble figuring out where to put the emphasis. - BL
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 07:31 AM
This is a family run business not the Pentagon!!! Whay does it take so long for an IC plan, Quota Plan and everything else to get approved?
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 11:12 AM
Let's face it. The gnome is over his head. Whoever wrote that the co. had no business thinking they can compete in the branded arena was right. They are a generics company and every action they have taken has reinforced that. They could pay us, they could give us the data, and give us our goals. It appears that it is not important to them. They don't give a sh** about us. Hopefully you guys are seriously looking for a new job, and just biding your time here, not working all that hard. Taro doesn't deserve any of our efforts at this point. What the hell do they expect?
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 11:53 AM
I did not accept this job to collect a pay check. Especially since I took a cut to come over here! This place is AWFUL!!!
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 11:56 AM
Goodness, look at the number of views on this thread alone. It went from 231 back before the HO found out about this site, now it is over 2000!! That was roughly 3 weeks ago. If I was a supervisor in the HO I might be looking into what my employees were viewing on their computers!!! Get to WORK!!!
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 01:42 PM
2 WORDS FOR YOU MADAME. LUNCH TIME!
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 05:13 PM
Yeah, right.
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 08:00 PM
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2 WORDS FOR YOU MADAME. LUNCH TIME!
[/ QUOTE ]
One word for you,
LOSER!
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 10:02 PM
Even if Mary herself wrote that last post I aggree that should never have been said! Regardless of whether she is or isn't a good manager, those are not the kind of comments that don't belong on this board. This is a place to discuss the issues we are facing here at Taro in an anonymous and professional manner. It is not a forum to publicly humiliate employees.
To that point, much of the more personal stuff said about Carol Wells (her vinegar perfume, etc.) is also pretty harsh! I too, am not very happy about the way things are going lately, but would hate to read that kind of crap about myself. So clean it up a bit your kind of embarrassing us.
Anonymous
06-22-2004, 11:23 PM
Mary did not write the last post and I couldn't agree with you more about this being a site to vent but not to publicly humiliate anyone! People should really clean it up a bit. We don't need this kind of dirt thrown around.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 11:33 AM
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Boy I guess you have never seen her in a meeting, when she gets sloshed, and then stumbles around, slurs her words, talks some poor saps ear off about what anti depressants she is either on or has been on, and then starts sitting on reps laps. Boy that sound like a good manager. If she was good anyway a real company like Healthpoint may have hired her. She is OLD and a Drunk!!! Truth Hurts. I hate working for TARO and Elan Sucked Too!!!
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anger management problem??? if it sucks, then quit. it's your fault you're still there.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 03:10 PM
You should be happy you got a trip to PR without deserving it!!!! Stop railing on a company that spoils you. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Check the growth for the last 5 years. Taro turned from a 70 million dollar company to almost 1 billion! Taropharma probably earns .000001% for TARO. Look yourselves in the mirror. You probably couldn't sell crack in Detroit.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 03:21 PM
Stop acting like your all that important!!! You're a bunch of egotistical sales reps with no talent. That's why you do what you do, you only have the talent to BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No skills practicle skills whatsoever. Speaking of which, there's a new product called "BS", see if you sell that, because I'm not buying it. It's amazing you can't sell anything. All you do is BS..... LOSERS!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 03:40 PM
As I say to self hating Americans. IF YOU DON"T LIKE IT, GET THE F*CK OUT.
If I didn't like it where I worked, that's what I would do. I guess your not in a position to do that. Which makes you even more of a loser. BLAH-BLAH-BLAH.
BABY, BABY, sick your head in gravy,
Wash it out with bubble gum and send it to the NAVY.
ANY YES I WROTE THIS AND THE LAST TOO. YOU BIG BABIES.. BLAH-BLAH-BLAH. ICAN"T HEAR YOU, I CAN"T HEAR YOU....
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 03:44 PM
AND DON"T CRITISIZE THE GRAMMER AND SPELLING, I DON"T HAVE THE FREE TIME LIKE YOU TO PROOF READ< BE-AAACH
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:04 PM
That is a rather interesting commentary on the collective group of reps Taro has assembled. Obviously you fail to understand that this group is comprised of top sales reps from other companies and industries, who, when they were given the proper sales training, tools and formulary coverage were at the top of their game. This my dear, is why Taro recruited them in the first place.
It seems you are just another uneducated, whiney, trash-talking, loud-mouthed, thick-tongued, mafia-lovin', hoagie-chompin', stoop-shouldered, no-necked, dim-witted, foul smelling (tell me when this gets irritating), beer-swilling, hairsprayed-to-death, white-castle-burger-eatin', T-shirted loser, from New Jersey!
How does it feel to be horribly stereotyped and denigrated?
So I think I covered just about everthing! And when Taro & the freaky little Gnome running this joint decides to dole out the tools we need to sell successfully and pays us for a job well done we might stop complaining!
Until then please have a hoagie for me, lay off the hairspray, teach your women to talk like ladies, not truckers.
P.S. That includes the woman who answers the phones at the
HO-how many packs a day does she smoke???
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:13 PM
"Hi, this message is going out to the entire Taro Pharma team. It is with great pleasure that I leave you the attached message..."
If I have to hear this again I think I might vomit! Does she know how annoying she is?
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:18 PM
Just leave....... Oh, I forgot, you can't get another JOB. Nobody will take you. HAHA
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:23 PM
I DON'T NEED HAIRSPRAY, I'M A GUY
I DO AGREE ON YOUR TAKE ON OUR NEW RECEPTIONIST, BUT SHE WON'T LAST..... YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH HER!!!!!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:28 PM
She probably bitch slap you..
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:32 PM
OH concerning you long sensless rant..... All I have to say is: OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHH.. GO SELL SOMETHING... OH FORGOT, YOU SUCK AT THAT
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:35 PM
No, I actually don't have much in common with her. I'm in the top 20% of the rankings so I will last! And FYI I've seen plenty of NJ men with hairspray and plugs! It seems you all don't understand that we can't leave until the 30th!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:39 PM
Not NJ sorry pal, or miss. Nice try though.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 04:42 PM
You can't leave until the 30th. We can't wait!!!! You'd probably sell your mother or your first born for the right price. BONG!!!!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 06:49 PM
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Stop acting like your all that important!!! You're a bunch of egotistical sales reps with no talent. That's why you do what you do, you only have the talent to BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No skills practicle skills whatsoever. Speaking of which, there's a new product called "BS", see if you sell that, because I'm not buying it. It's amazing you can't sell anything. All you do is BS..... LOSERS!!!!!!!!!
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Boy do you sound jealous! I love it. It must really piss you off that you could NEVER even entertain the idea of becoming a professional sales person. It must kill you that you are trapped behind a desk all day doing very menial tasks. You are just reinforcing how frustrated you are with your own career choice (or lack there of) to show so much anger in an area that is really none of your freakin' business. I almost feel sorry for you.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 06:56 PM
P.S. That includes the woman who answers the phones at the
HO-how many packs a day does she smoke???
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She smokes 5 packs a day and has no teeth!!!!!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 07:11 PM
Not to mention that she is one of the worst receptionists ever!!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 07:15 PM
she tells people to shut their car windows
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 07:39 PM
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Just leave....... Oh, I forgot, you can't get another JOB. Nobody will take you. HAHA
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Hey loser, I have another job, but I am not leaving until I get my Fu*cking money!!! God, you are an idiot!
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 07:55 PM
I know what a loser is, YOU of course but what is a Babaies?
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 08:02 PM
Boy do you sound jealous! I love it. It must really piss you off that you could NEVER even entertain the idea of becoming a professional sales person. It must kill you that you are trapped behind a desk all day doing very menial tasks. You are just reinforcing how frustrated you are with your own career choice (or lack there of) to show so much anger in an area that is really none of your freakin' business. I almost feel sorry for you.
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So much anger huh? That's coming from a spoiled brat who fills up 17 pages of pent up bitterness. I'm happy not be a proffessional BS artist, thank you. You don't sound like a happy camper though. I obviously got your goat. Feel sorry for yourself. Anyway good luck, better yet, good riddance to you.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 08:06 PM
Burp
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 08:08 PM
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Boy do you sound jealous! I love it. It must really piss you off that you could NEVER even entertain the idea of becoming a professional sales person. It must kill you that you are trapped behind a desk all day doing very menial tasks. You are just reinforcing how frustrated you are with your own career choice (or lack there of) to show so much anger in an area that is really none of your freakin' business. I almost feel sorry for you.
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So much anger huh? That's coming from a spoiled brat who fills up 17 pages of pent up bitterness. I'm happy not be a proffessional BS artist, thank you. You don't sound like a happy camper though. I obviously got your goat. Feel sorry for yourself. Anyway good luck, better yet, good riddance to you.
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Although I would love to take credit for all 17 pages, I am afraid I can't. You made me laugh, I would hardly say you got my goat. You are retarded. How much school did you finish anyway? And a GED doesn't count.
Anonymous
06-23-2004, 08:11 PM
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AND DON"T CRITISIZE THE GRAMMER AND SPELLING, I DON"T HAVE THE FREE TIME LIKE YOU TO PROOF READ< BE-AAACH
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I guess it helps to have a basic command of the english language and have passed freshman grammar! I don't sleep with a thesaurus, but maybe you should!
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 10:07 AM
I'm gald I made you laugh. I probably finished more school than you, without divulging too much info. Nore do I do menial tasks, more specialized, which require experience and a solid educational backround. I have nothing against sales reps, only you for disrespecting solid people at TARO. Including who the man you refer to as a "Gnome". He is the driving force for the great success this company has. You couldn't hold his sack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Taro is new to the branded division. "Rome wasn't built in a day".
PS. Grammer/spelling is not important on message boards. As I said I typed fast and had no time to proof read. I fixed it though just to make you happy.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 11:01 AM
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I'm gald I made you laugh. I probably finished more school than you, without divulging too much info. Nore do I do menial tasks, more specialized, which require experience and a solid educational backround. I have nothing against sales reps, only you for disrespecting solid people at TARO. Including who the man you refer to as a "Gnome". He is the driving force for the great success this company has. You couldn't hold his sack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Taro is new to the branded division. "Rome wasn't built in a day".
Hey, I agree that Rome wasn't built in a day. However, there was some thought put into it. The situation here is that Barrie is not commited to this branded division. I don't care if he says he is until he is blue in the face. His actions prove otherwise. The sales force found out that he refused to pay for necessary data without ever having the "sack" to tell us to our faces and give us an explanation. He hasn't treated any of us with respect. Why would we respect him? As far as I can tell the guy has a "god" complex and needs to be knocked down a few rungs. He has an enormous ego. But if he is so great why are the best HO people dropping like flies. I.e. Bob Mauro?
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 11:04 AM
Hey, I agree that Rome wasn't built in a day. However, there was some thought put into it. The situation here is that Barrie is not commited to this branded division. I don't care if he says he is until he is blue in the face. His actions prove otherwise. The sales force found out that he refused to pay for necessary data without ever having the "sack" to tell us to our faces and give us an explanation. He hasn't treated any of us with respect. Why would we respect him? As far as I can tell the guy has a "god" complex and needs to be knocked down a few rungs. He has an enormous ego. But if he is so great why are the best HO people dropping like flies. I.e. Bob Mauro?
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Anonymous
06-24-2004, 11:14 AM
Who said he's the best HO person???? Does he have a reputation that proceeds him in the industry? Did you know his name before you started here?
OK so you don't have a problem with Taro, just the way your division is used, correct? It still is a great company. Just look at the stock and earning over the past 5-6 years. Numbers don't lie (excluding the last droppoff which is just a bumb in the road). TARO was rated the best performing company in NASDAQ for a 3 year period!!! (I think 2000-03)The chairman received an award from NASDAQ and pressed the button to open the day. Numbers don't lie, check it out (I'm sure you already have). You at least must admit that.
I hear you though. I just had a beef with you ripping the company to shreads on this board. There's no need to spew all that bile. I won't bother you anymore, just respond to the above questions..... (I must admit it was fun!!!)
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 12:06 PM
After meeting Bob at the national meeting, I felt like he really understood our division, and acknolowedged what was important, ie. new products, support, etc.
He seemed to have the best take on Taro USA in the industry and where they were headed. He conveyed that message to us as TaroPharma very clearly and enthuasiatic. I was very impressed with him. He came across as a natural leader.
I came to this venture to earn more money and advance my career. However I was misled, and I have made less $$$ last year than the year before. My accountant was befuddled. I am sure you would be equally dismayed. Picture yourself in our shoes.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 12:17 PM
I hear ya. Just bustin chops. Good luck!
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 12:29 PM
You are right about Mauro, why do you think he left taro? Only the losers are left there, everyone else was smart enough to get out. Although if I were a rep I would stay too till I got my bonus and get the hell out! Even the Sales team that resigned followed Mauro, they know he is the leader and the reason Taro was successful in the first place. Upper Mgmt at Taro has no backbone, no credibility and no morals, why would anyone that has a brain want to work for a company like this.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 01:40 PM
check back in 1 year. we'll see who's laughing. get off BM's jockstrap! BM is a clown. The chairmans dedication and hard work is why the company is and will be so sucsessful. R&D is more responsible, like every pharmaceuticals company in the world. Not because of a snake in the grass. People don't sell the product in the pharma industry. quality does, at least for the long term..... numbnuts
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 01:45 PM
he's a fake, phoney, fraud. with no moral. will sell you out in a heartbeat if it serves his best interest. don't get suckered
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 02:01 PM
BM in case you were wondering
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 03:34 PM
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check back in 1 year. we'll see who's laughing. get off BM's jockstrap! BM is a clown. The chairmans dedication and hard work is why the company is and will be so sucsessful. R&D is more responsible, like every pharmaceuticals company in the world. Not because of a snake in the grass. People don't sell the product in the pharma industry. quality does, at least for the long term..... numbnuts
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Oh you couldn't be more wrong. In the world of dermatology and the "me-toos" you can bet your a** that is it is the people that sell the product. Bottom Line! What area of the busines are you in? Obiviosly not sales or marketing. There will always be a better, more advanced product to compete with what is currently out there, and if you don't have the professional rapport and personal relationships to support the product you can kiss market share good-bye. Maybe this is why Barrie had no business getting into dermatology or pediatrics. If you think Topicort and Ovide are selling themselves you are more than an idiot.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 03:50 PM
Dick. This company mainly sells generics, mostly dermatology. That's the majority of Taro's profits in case you didn't know, and has been EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 03:52 PM
BM is a back stabber, all you loyal followers go ahead, he will leave you all high and dry as well in 2 years. Look at all the plastic surgery done to his face, man when he smiles he might rip his face in half.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 04:18 PM
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Dick. This company mainly sells generics, mostly dermatology. That's the majority of Taro's profits in case you didn't know, and has been EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL
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Dick-Pull your head out!!!! I am not talking about f**king generics, you dip sh**!!!!!!!!!!!! I am talking about him getting in over his head in the BRANDED ARENA!!!! He should stick to generics! I'll agree that is what Taro does best. But to think he can compete in branded pharma with an outside sales force is ridiculous! I think that point has been proven.
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 04:21 PM
I am so sick of conversing with idiots! Why don't you read what is posted before you open your big mouth? God, this is frustrating. What do you do by the way? Whose admin. are you?
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 06:36 PM
Whoever made the post about the people selling the product is right on the money (or lack there of in our case). Relationships are the key to this business. I think that it is pretty safe to say that the "branded" division is a "bought" division for Taro. We have nothing in our pipeline that pertains to either the derm side or the peds. What we are doing is "buying" (so we are led to believe) exisiting products, which gets back to my original point, the relationships we have made with our offices will change their writing habits. In our bags, at this moment, we have an over exagerrated hydrocortisone cream. Just because of the urea base, it is Rx. If we can sell this to derms or peds, we are doing pretty good. The product is not a homerun product. And, it takes some finesse to get a Dr to write for this product as opposed to just suggesting a very inexpensive OTC.
Rome was not built in a day. It took strategy, thought, determination, and focus to build, and to compare Taro to that analogy is only hiding the fact that this division was not and is not a well though out process. HO is forcing the Reps in the field to suffer from mistakes, miscommunications and lack of focus on a daily basis.
I was speaking with a Rep today and he was intrigued with the "specialty" aspect of my job, then I shared with him, that fact that we have no goals, no quotas and no payout as of yet. This made his mouth drop and disbielf come over his face. I am numb to that fact. Taro has no idea what excellent sales reps they have. The lure of a strong product pipeline, uncapped incentive program, and "help from home office, for anything you need, because we care about you and we are "small pharma"" is no longer intriging. Why...because it is not true. Those are amoung the many reasons I left where I was to come here. Mistake! Hindsight is always 20/20. I will say this and I feel it is a truth, I have NEVER been involved with a company that is so unorganized, threating, clueless, and unmotivating and demoralizing. And before you even respond with "if you are so unhappy, leave" comment, I am already in that process. It will be liberating to leave this hell hole behind!
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 09:25 PM
I don't care how much plastic surgery he's had or what a jackass he is. He's hot and I'd do him!
Anonymous
06-24-2004, 10:03 PM
You are a sick puppy! ! ! ! ! !
B M would never do you. He is only in love with himself! ! ! !
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 10:47 AM
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I am so sick of conversing with idiots! Why don't you read what is posted before you open your big mouth? God, this is frustrating. What do you do by the way? Whose admin. are you?
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Too much to read. It's all the same babble repeated over and over again anyway (18 pgs worth!). After reading a little more, I do sympathize with your frustration/situation. And concerning the "who's admin?" comment. I'm not going to let you find out what I do by using the "ol' process of elimination" method. I'm very happy in what I do and it takes BRAINS!!!!. Not that yours doesn't, just a different skill set. I may not be great in spelling and grammer, but I guarantee my IQ easily eclipses yours. Let's leave it at that. No more question about what I do
****BTQ: We will know who YOU ARE (or some of you) by who's leaving from your group after that 6/30 bonus date you can't stop talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 10:49 AM
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I am so sick of conversing with idiots! Why don't you read what is posted before you open your big mouth? God, this is frustrating. What do you do by the way? Whose admin. are you?
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Too much to read. It's all the same babble repeated over and over again anyway (18 pgs worth!). After reading a little more, I do sympathize with your frustration/situation. And concerning the "who's admin?" comment. I'm not going to let you find out what I do by using the "ol' process of elimination" method. I'm very happy in what I do and it takes BRAINS!!!!. Not that yours doesn't, just a different skill set. I may not be great in spelling and grammer, but I guarantee my IQ easily eclipses yours. Let's leave it at that. No more question about what I do
****By the way: We will know who YOU ARE (or some of you) by who's leaving from your group after that 6/30 bonus date you can't stop talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 10:51 AM
I posted that twice (before you break on me), because I mistyped (BTQ) should be BTW
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 11:48 AM
Ooohh, you are quite the detective. Also, I am not sure if you are aware, but this is an anonymous chat room. So, maybe, just maybe (and use you high IQ for this one) the people who are posting that they are leaving as of the 30th;
A. may be lying about their situation, or
B. will be gone, so who gives a crap?
So, before you think that you have gone and solved the "mystery" of who has been posting and why, you might want to re-think your theory. Just a thought. But you, with your very high IQ should have probably thought of that.
P.S. I wasn't really interested in whose admin you were. I was trying to prove a point, which you just did.
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 01:35 PM
Judging by your non-professional attitude, you probably won't give notice regardless...........
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 03:05 PM
So if we now know are pay outs are...where are our quotas for this quarter? Where are our Physician Level Reports? How did they determine these rankings? How did they determine our percent to goal? Give us some explanation people and give us some credit. Don't tell me I slid from the top 25 to the bottom 30 without providing me with some data to back it up. This CW is why we are on the next bus outta here!
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 03:33 PM
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Judging by your non-professional attitude, you probably won't give notice regardless...........
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You are an idiot! That is all I can say. Seriously, like this co. has acted professional in any way, shape or form. I would give notice, but judging by Taro's "non-professional attude" they would just cut me loose. And try to get out of paying any $$$ that they owe me.
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 05:33 PM
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So if we now know are pay outs are...where are our quotas for this quarter? Where are our Physician Level Reports? How did they determine these rankings? How did they determine our percent to goal? Give us some explanation people and give us some credit. Don't tell me I slid from the top 25 to the bottom 30 without providing me with some data to back it up. This CW is why we are on the next bus outta here!
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I hear ya... the hits just keep on comin'.
Anonymous
06-25-2004, 07:18 PM
When will you people in the HO realize that the vented frustration you are reading is coming from nothing more than promises not kept and people feeling as if they were sold a bill of goods on the way in the door than shown a different set of circumatances once they arrive. Look, I do not choose to attack CW as personally as others on the board even though I don't like her at all. Do you know why? It is because she has been selling the the unkept promises all along and perfectly illustrates the fact that she and Taro bit off more than they expected to have to chew.
Anonymous
06-27-2004, 03:29 PM
I agree Puerto Rico sucked - if I had to watch that Jack Ass jump around with a Kiss mask one more time I would have to pull my hair out - OH wait he already got s*#t canned by CW! HA!
Anonymous
11-12-2006, 06:12 PM
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I'm gald I made you laugh. I probably finished more school than you, without divulging too much info. Nore do I do menial tasks, more specialized, which require experience and a solid educational backround. I have nothing against sales reps, only you for disrespecting solid people at TARO. Including who the man you refer to as a "Gnome". He is the driving force for the great success this company has. You couldn't hold his sack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BTW: Taro is new to the branded division. "Rome wasn't built in a day".
Hey, I agree that Rome wasn't built in a day. However, there was some thought put into it. The situation here is that Barrie is not commited to this branded division. I don't care if he says he is until he is blue in the face. His actions prove otherwise. The sales force found out that he refused to pay for necessary data without ever having the "sack" to tell us to our faces and give us an explanation. He hasn't treated any of us with respect. Why would we respect him? As far as I can tell the guy has a "god" complex and needs to be knocked down a few rungs. He has an enormous ego. But if he is so great why are the best HO people dropping like flies. I.e. Bob Mauro?
ok
Anonymous
11-13-2006, 08:31 AM
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ok
At this point, anyone who supports Taro or the owners are dilusional or a memeber of the "lucky sperm club", ie the Levitt / Moros family. I can say from first hand experience that Taro has not will not support the branded group with any of the most basic sales or marketing tools. They do not listen to any of the professional advise they pay for ( I continue to be in meetings where this happens) but rely on Jake and Tal to lead the company from a position of relatively little or no experience. We shouldn't shouldn't judge them to harshly as they are Barries eyes ears and voice. They do what Barrie says both at work and socially (been told not to play with the "help". I've known Barrie and Dan for many years and personally they're ok, but that won't pay the rent when Becky decides to tear this place down to its foundation.
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