The Loss of Great Leaders

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Let this thread be dedicated to Great Leaders we have lost today. I propose Art Harmon. Art was an outstanding DBM, a man who knows the business, loves his Company, and respects and takes care of his Reps. Dedicated to making each of his people stronger, and always looks for the best in each. He was always upbeat and exceptionally innovative. I know he will move on to bigger and bettter things, but he will be sorely missed by his Representatives and all who knew him in BMS. May the good he has done come back to him in the very near future.

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Art- Good post.

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Yes, Art Harmon was a good DBM with BMS. He started his career with a company that was eventually swallowed by Sanofi. He was a good worker who knew how to get the business. He will be missed.

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The same to Karen Miller in Fla. who I had the pleasure of going to initial training with. A class act all the way.

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A toast to Art Harmon......a great leader....a good friend thank you ....thank you ......for every thing you've done for us over the years. You will be missed!!!!

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Did Tom Harmon Keep his job? What about Cathy Allard?

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!!!! And kindess. morals, compassion.

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!!!!!! And kindess. morals, compassion.

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And a good business mind, go figure BMS.

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To my most respected former manager and company friend KMP- FLorida whom I have had the distinct pleasure of being under as a rep for a period of time. I hope you go sell Diovan and kick the S#!$ out of Avapro!! You are a class act all the way. So very fair and very well respected by your reps- even won the Leadership Award at the POA along with Evan who was also severed today! I can't believe it!!! I am truly saddened by this new! As a tribute to you tommorow I am wearing all BLACK!!!!!!!!! This will be my own private mourning! Hope you land on your feet- I am sure you will! Toast to all your greatness at BMS! They are the ones who lost a great employee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Art was a dream of a DM to report to. He didn't believe in the paperwork nonsense. He wanted to give his reps time to sell. A HUGE LOSS for the company. He will land on his feet somewhere. Here's to you Art Harmon http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/wink.gif

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Here's to Evan Schissler, a fine DBM and even better human being! Evan was fair, always looked for the best in his reps, and had not been in management so long that he forgot what it was like in the field. He had a way of weeding thru the BS to get to what was important to move the business. He was and is a great communicator and I wish ONLY THE BEST for him and his family.

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Here's to Evan Schissler, a fine DBM and even better human being! Evan was fair, always looked for the best in his reps, and had not been in management so long that he forgot what it was like in the field. He had a way of weeding thru the BS to get to what was important to move the business. He was and is a great communicator and I wish ONLY THE BEST for him and his family.

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AMEN TO THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Evan you are still the best!!!!!!!!! We LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Well written. My heart breaks that ES was severed. Didn't have an opportunity to work with KMP but have heard wonderful things. Ironic how BMS displaces the ONLY managers to win an award at the POA. Just proves that this company would rather be run militant style than with outstanding managers like ES and KMP. Watch out BMS you stupid MFs--these are two people you DON'T want competing against you. I hope they send Avapro and Pravachol to hell with competition! To ES and KMP, we LOVE you. You two will land on your feet and laugh while looking down as BMS crumbles.

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Let's not forget about Cathy Johnson in Orlando!!! Cathy was/is a dream manager. It doesn;t make sense that they let her go. When she came to Orlando she took over a beaten district and rebuilt the shabby remains from Kim H. She turned the dirt around by motivating her team and always found the good in all! She worked hard not just for herself but for each rep as an individual. Raise your glass to Cathy. Her new employer will be lucky to have her! Let's all wish her well!!!
Is this the thanks she gets for having the highest Plavix numbers in the U.S.?

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Let's not forget about Cathy Johnson in Orlando!!! Cathy was/is a dream manager. It doesn;t make sense that they let her go. When she came to Orlando she took over a beaten district and rebuilt the shabby remains from Kim H. She turned the dirt around by motivating her team and always found the good in all! She worked hard not just for herself but for each rep as an individual. Raise your glass to Cathy. Her new employer will be lucky to have her! Let's all wish her well!!!
Is this the thanks she gets for having the highest Plavix numbers in the U.S.?

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What was her tenure like?? Just curious if they let her go and numbers were good??

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she's been around for awhile..at least 5 yrs.
yes, always good numbers in the couple of districts she has had

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The three DBM's cut in Florida were the only ones who truely cared about their people and stood up for the reps. It is a travesty that this company continues to nurture an environment that is so hostile and oppressive by eliminating the only managers that allowed the reps to be adults and were treated as such. This is a sad day for this company. The people that worked for these DBMs respected them and worked hard, FOR THE MANAGER , not the company. This will certainly change the moral in those parts of this region.

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Here's to Trey Watts, the finest DBM I've ever worked for. He is kind, considerate, encouraging, extremely knowledgeable, and inspires his reps to be the very best. His contacts throughout the company allowed him to get things done that bewildered others.

Trey will land a great job with another company. He will go on to make great things happen for someone else. I like all the managers in Alabama, but to see Trey gone is very hard to take. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/frown.gif

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trey watts is one of the finest leaders this company has seen in quite some time. he developed and promoted many people in his career. trey gave his heart and soul to bms.

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I have known Art for a few years, just at POA's and such. Great guy!!! Art if you are reading this, Look at all the good things that have been said about you. You truely are a great managers. All these kind words should let you know that you were well respected by other and I hope that you will have an impact on many others as you have touched many here at BMS. THANKS ART for your dedication.

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Do not forget Mark Glover in Minneapolis--an incredible manager and a great person--who always believed in a true balance b/t work and your home life.

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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Tina Lotshaw is a bitch. I hope I never see or hear that bitches name again. Enjoy the job search, you deserve it.

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Art is a great man. What a loss. I will go to bat to help him any way I can. Any company would be lucky to have him.

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Tom Napier's voice mail isn't working. What a shame! His loyalty to BMS has been second to none. A realistic manager who taught me invaluable skills. Well-liked and respected by docs and reps, he will be sorely missed. A truly great person with integrity and character.

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Mark Glover, even though I never reported to you, you will be missed. This company is sooooo messed up. I remember Mark from POA meetings and always so friendly and positive. I think he has been with BMS for almost 20 years, if not more. This is a HUGE loss to the company. I left BMS several months ago, it IS greener on the OTHER side! I know the wounds are fresh, but it will get better!

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Why Art? Dearest Art, on behalf of all the reps who have reported to you, THANK YOU from the bottom of our hearts for being a WONDERFUL DM. You have gotten stiffed in many ways. You should have become a specialty DM - EASY.
Just say goodbye to BMS and take your talent elsewhere - good riddance!!!!! You treated us not only as employees but as friends to. You are in our thoughts over these agonizing days.....

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Does anyone know for sure that Tom Napier is gone?? He's a wonderful manager and I can't imagine that they would get rid of him....

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To the loss of all great leaders today. TOmmorow show your tribune by wearing all black in the field!!! Goodbye to all our lovely friends.

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Does anyone know what DBM's were let go in NY

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Does anyone know for sure that Tom Napier is gone?? He's a wonderful manager and I can't imagine that they would get rid of him....

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I tried his voice mail several times with no luck.

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Tom Napier did not make the cut. Hopefully, he will post for some open postions and still retain a position with BMS. Great man, great manager.

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Tom Napier did not make the cut. Hopefully, he will post for some open postions and still retain a position with BMS. Great man, great manager.

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What types of positions?
I agree, I'm sick about this. In fact, rather than wearing black in the field tomorrow, how about a national sick day since we're so sick about this???

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Tom Napier did not make the cut. Hopefully, he will post for some open postions and still retain a position with BMS. Great man, great manager.

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What types of positions?
I agree, I'm sick about this. In fact, rather than wearing black in the field tomorrow, how about a national sick day since we're so sick about this???

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I would love a national sick day but I need to balance my samples tommorow and I want to dump as many cases as I can to get this crap out of my garage. Good plan though- I for one would call in sick to ........... No one my manager is gone!! SO I might just work a few hours in the am and then time AR the rest! Good idea!!

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Like anybody is really going to work tommorrow except the HR Dept.

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Any DBM's in NY? http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/confused.gif

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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Tina Lotshaw is a bitch. I hope I never see or hear that bitches name again. Enjoy the job search, you deserve it.

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sounds like somebody got fired, huh.....

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Tom Napier did not make the cut. Hopefully, he will post for some open postions and still retain a position with BMS. Great man, great manager.

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What types of positions?
I agree, I'm sick about this. In fact, rather than wearing black in the field tomorrow, how about a national sick day since we're so sick about this???

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from what i am hearing there have been alot of sick/golf days since july. it would be interesting to check the call records.

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I agree that Trey is the best. I can't believe that they would let him go. He is also the best manager that I have ever had. He will be missed. Whatever company gets him is obviously smarter than BMS.

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What happened to Kevin Von Feldon?

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Is Tony from Albany gone?

Is Karl fom NY goe? http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/confused.gif

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Check their voice mail. If it is gone, they are gone.

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Yes,
Art is a great leader and a winner. How could HE be axed? They obviously didn't use sales performance as a criteria he was ranked #3 IN THE NATION this year, and had a great year last year. Maybe tenure was the issue- he had 16 years . Maybe he helped develop too many people- something like ten reps in two years who worked for him were promoted under his leadership. His only problem was that he believed in BMS so much that he got the rest of us doing it too!

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What is this Art Harmon shrine thing? Who is he?

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What is this Art Harmon shrine thing? Who is he?

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Art is a wonderful DM who has touched many lives within BMS. He is a true kool-aid drinker, however, very realistic.
He did what he could to keep people at BMS, but when he saw the writing on the wall earlier this year, he made sure he told reps that they needed to do what they had to do to protect themselves. Awesome Advice that I have ever received. I ran for the hills, and it's been great ever since http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/laugh.gif

He did everything he could to promote his reps. He was not perfect mind you, but should be in the Top 10 great DM's of all time. Huge loss for the company. WE all know he will land on his feet somewhere, and be a tremendous asset wherever he goes.....
Best Wishes Art, and Good Luck to all of you!

[Anonymous]

Art will kick thier ass if someone else picks him up. Also heard of several other great leaders let go- Mark Glover a class act all the way. hard worker. Tim Harget- just won Pinnacle. Dave Jacocks-sharp as a tack. Lou Montefiorri, the list goes on. One thing in common -they were some of the best the company had or will have. You can thank our great "Leadership Team" for this one. Can't wait till tomorrow. they'll probably keep the bozo reps we know are not working, and fire all of the hard working salespeople who have built this company!

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Another great leader lost; Jackie Hansen in IA. She also managed with compassion and gave her representatives the one thing missing from most managers; she TRUSTED us. We wish her well.....

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Unlike the Tin Man, the lion and the scarecrow-(The business rules team) Trey Watts is a brave man with a heart and a brain. Maybe the wicked witch who set helped set up these business rules should get a good dousing. Get em Toto!

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New England region: Heard Greg Raab, Bob Conners, Mike Barker are gone. Anyone else?

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Elaine Farranaci (spelling?) is leaving the company at the end of the week to be a VP at a small outfit.

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Another great leader lost; Jackie Hansen in IA. She also managed with compassion and gave her representatives the one thing missing from most managers; she TRUSTED us. We wish her well.....

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Sorry to hear of Jackie Hanson. I left pharma over two years ago, and somebody gave me her name and phone number. One of the smartest, organized managers I've spoken with. Keep in mind she is a chemical engineer. We'd love to have her selling in our company. From another Iowa.

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This has to be about the pension fund.

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Yo! Crouse let go for BOGUS OIG? Damn, why throw the baby out with the bathwater. She was the BEST!!!

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Evan Schissler took being a DM to both a higher level and yet brought it down to a human level. He actually made you feel that he was on your side, and that your success was on its way. Evan was optomistic, positive, energetic, decent.
I will miss working for him very much. Hang tight Evan, you rule.

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Let this thread be dedicated to Great Leaders we have lost today. I propose Art Harmon. Art was an outstanding DBM, a man who knows the business, loves his Company, and respects and takes care of his Reps. Dedicated to making each of his people stronger, and always looks for the best in each. He was always upbeat and exceptionally innovative. I know he will move on to bigger and bettter things, but he will be sorely missed by his Representatives and all who knew him in BMS. May the good he has done come back to him in the very near future.

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A lot of the leaders lost were TBMs also. They were veteran, high performing reps who inspired and mentored many of us who are still here. My head is still reeling over the loss of these people. When I joined BMS two years ago, there was a rep who was a huge help to me and had been here a long time and won a ton of Pinnacles. She's gone. I've won no Pinnacles, have been here two years. I'm still here but have lost a great leader.

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Someone asked about Tony L in NY--still there. Made it through. "Teflon Tony". Even went on vacation during the layoffs.

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Wow! How long ago did he fire you? He was our DBM in New Hampshire for more than 10 years. None of us ever had any problems like that. By the way, Connors retired in July, prior to the layoffs. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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Here's to hoping that some of these great leaders will be returned to the company! This will be the ultimate test of their leadership (not the company's).

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Hey we are interviewing managers at my company any that we should consider???

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you should consider letting this post die. I do however know of a few shitty ones you could take off our hands to help improve my quality of life.

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This has gone on for years and they will keep on doing the same shit until someone has the backbone to do what one woman did to the nuclear industry---isnt someone out there retired and has nothing else to do----hell you could write a book on how you made big poharma quit hiring younger people to take the place of older or not have to pay someone a pension.

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Where is Art Harmon now?

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Now? Probably at home with his miserable wife, wishing he were in a coma.

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in what city does art live?

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Arts back with the company. Think a DM for a Speciality group not sure which one.

Why would you come back?

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Now? Probably at home with his miserable wife, wishing he were in a coma.

[/ QUOTE ] DO I ever agree - she is a micro-managing hose bag who has no life - pretty pathetic that all she has is BMS - and her tacky personality

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His wife is a mega Beeeyatch!

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St. Louis- gr8 mgr they don't make em like that anymore.

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My vote is for Bob Colosimo, whom taught me the art of being a professional sales person, but truely encouraged work/life balance.

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So who are they going to cut down this time?

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St. Louis- gr8 mgr they don't make em like that anymore.

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I knew Art a few years back. I am the lone dissident in that I thought he was phony and NOT that nice. Maybe he changed, but when I knew him, he was not yet a DBM. I didn't trust him and thought he was smarmy.

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My vote is for Bob Colosimo, whom taught me the art of being a professional sales person, but truely encouraged work/life balance.

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Bob is a great man. We miss him.

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What about Milt Goggans? He was a true leader!

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What about Milt Goggans? He was a true leader!

[/ QUOTE ]I did not like Milt, he was a nice guy, bad leader

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What about Milt Goggans? He was a true leader!

[/ QUOTE ]I did not like Milt, he was a nice guy, bad leader

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http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/shocked.gif
OH yeah Milt quote:
"Advance will be my legacy to BMS.”
All the way to the SEC and beyond. What a great job of documenting kickbacks. ADVANCE books an attorney’s dream come true.

Mile wide and inch deep Milt!!

He’s doing some consulting now so out there is some sap company paying for bad advice, see anything can be sold.

Just what BMS needs some more martinis and a PRAVAGARD PAC relaunch, that should fix the company up.
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Milt Goggans; a blast from the past. Sorry to say this, but I believe he only got to where he was for one reason, and we all know what that is. He was inarticulate and a terrible businessman. The truth hurts, but it is what it is.

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Here's another vote for Bob Colosimo!!!!

He was only the number 1 RBD for 2 years running when the took him out.
They couldn't stand the fact that his folks all went out and worked hard for him and his management team.

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Here we go again? Our ADROs are our best. They need to replace some of thier superiors. What's gonna happen now?

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/cheers to Art

lol

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What about Barry Brand???

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/cheers to Art

lol

Guess are was so slack in the field cuz he was
"interviewing" for a special "position".

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St. Louis- gr8 mgr they don't make em like that anymore.

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I knew Art a few years back. I am the lone dissident in that I thought he was phony and NOT that nice. Maybe he changed, but when I knew him, he was not yet a DBM. I didn't trust him and thought he was smarmy.

Art Harmon got canned for using his BMS computer for non BMS business. Porno? Running his own bidness? Probably both, he is an ass clown and his wifey is miserable.

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I agree- Art is a great guy.

Tina Lotshaw will also be missed. What a beacon of rationality in management.

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Tina Lotshaw is a bitch. I hope I never see or hear that bitches name again. Enjoy the job search, you deserve it.

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sounds like somebody got fired, huh.....

And she was not gone long either. LOL. Raised from the ashes.

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And she was not gone long either. LOL. Raised from the ashes.

i still carry a vial of blood in a necklace with the hemoglobin of Bob Connors, NH DM who retired-he was a saint and a real charmer.. come back to us bobby i need more of your blood

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i still carry a vial of blood in a necklace with the hemoglobin of Bob Connors, NH DM who retired-he was a saint and a real charmer.. come back to us bobby i need more of your blood

where did u find Connors hemoglobin i need it!

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Art Harmon got canned for using his BMS computer for non BMS business. Porno? Running his own bidness? Probably both, he is an ass clown and his wifey is miserable.

She may be miserable but imagine how he must feel.