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Anonymous
07-26-2008, 06:18 AM
Octagam may be in short supply due to PI statement...............Because this product is made from human blood, it may carry a risk of transmitting infectious agents, e.g., viruses and theoretically, the Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) agent.

Whoa !!!!!! And Back off comments about Gamunex--the best product in the market stateside and in the EU. If there may be a shortage, blame it on the high demand for Gamunex.

Anonymous
07-26-2008, 03:05 PM
OK Octapharma and Talecris ...back off and act responsibly. many people, including government eyes view these threads. If you insist on bashing each other you may not like the consequences !

Anonymous
07-27-2008, 05:13 AM
How many salespeople have they laid off so far? How many more before they get more product?

Anonymous
07-31-2008, 07:41 PM
you Octafarmers are gaining a well deserved pathetic reputation in the US. Poor leadership, aggressive management, poor pay, bad FFF relationship , especially with their Advocacy rep. Don't you people see how awful you ae being perceived.

Frederick and Tobias, isn't your father even the least bit pissed?

Anonymous
08-01-2008, 06:22 AM
I have to call you on a couple of those points, you have the wrong information:
1) Our leadership is RICH, RICH, RICH, not poor! They can afford to move a skeletal staff from a practically empty (and still unrented) VA space to a PHAT Hoboken location that has nobody in it -- all because the GM's wife wanted to live in Manhattan. You can't call that poor, that's throwing money at it!

2) I wouldn't call our management aggressive, more like pathetically insecure. Fire anyone that is smarter than you, fire anyone that questions the logic behind a business decision. And then when FN goes to Europe for six weeks like he does every summer, fire everyone you don't like because there is no one around to stop you.

3) The underpaid part doesn't apply to all employees. Some are overpaid if you consider their skillset and work ethic. Only the hardworking, competent ones are underpaid.

Hope this sets the record straight! We wouldn't want any unfair rumors out there, so now you have the facts

Anonymous
08-01-2008, 07:43 AM
I am humbled by your factual observations. My view is from a distance, your's is much more concentrated. I do however, know the players well. What the hell are you doing with FFF. It's going to destroy your US presence sometime soon !

Anonymous
08-06-2008, 07:55 AM
You really need to worry about Talecris! TONS of debt, no plasma, paying the high ups rediculous money and selling Prolastin! Now you are going to launch a new indication with no product and then add sales people!

Some real brains running this company!

Sale or go IPO? Million Dollar Question!

Bad Boys, Bad Boys - What you gonna do, Whatcha gonna do when they come for you! Enjoy it now while you can!

You guys are going to put us all under!


Concerned Baxter Rep! Best Liquid out there!

Anonymous
08-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Doesn't matter who has the best product, we sell all we can get.

Anonymous
08-08-2008, 05:09 AM
I am humbled by your factual observations. My view is from a distance, your's is much more concentrated. I do however, know the players well. What the hell are you doing with FFF. It's going to destroy your US presence sometime soon !
You must be from ASD. The reason we don't use ASD more is becuase 1) your markup is outrageous and 2) you don't "partner" with our sales force. FFF works with the reps to put product in accounts they already have, they use our sales team for education. They don't use our sales people to try to steal accounts from other companies, or to win you back accounts that have gone direct because of your pricing. You are always several dollars more than your competitors, its really hard to get customers to stick with you. Besides, the FFF staff doesn't act like we are contagious, they put professionalism first. Of course we work with FFF more, they want our product but they'll also work with us to get it!

Anonymous
08-10-2008, 08:08 PM
You must be from ASD. The reason we don't use ASD more is becuase 1) your markup is outrageous and 2) you don't "partner" with our sales force. FFF works with the reps to put product in accounts they already have, they use our sales team for education. They don't use our sales people to try to steal accounts from other companies, or to win you back accounts that have gone direct because of your pricing. You are always several dollars more than your competitors, its really hard to get customers to stick with you. Besides, the FFF staff doesn't act like we are contagious, they put professionalism first. Of course we work with FFF more, they want our product but they'll also work with us to get it!

That and the fact you pay FFF reps to push your product, which is getting the push back because of Maltose.

Anonymous
08-11-2008, 07:48 PM
Why is Judi M. keep passing herself as a MD?

Anonymous
08-11-2008, 09:50 PM
Has she actually claimed to be a doctor or has she just not corrected it if someone else believes that she is? What was the specific circumstance?

Anonymous
08-14-2008, 04:14 PM
She has never claimed to be a doctor, and if the doctors are smart enough to sidestep their egos, they can learn something from her.

Anonymous
08-15-2008, 05:03 AM
I heard Judi speak at a conference, and I have never heard a better speaker.

Anonymous
08-27-2008, 05:43 AM
She has never claimed to be a doctor, and if the doctors are smart enough to sidestep their egos, they can learn something from her.

Judi???

Anonymous
08-27-2008, 04:07 PM
I don't like Judi at all personally and I think she would sell her mother to get ahead. However, she knows her business very well and is a great speaker.

I was part of the sales force back in the day, and just wonder who is left? I have heard that Alex and Tanya are still there, but who is the sales force now? Are they back-filling the people that are getting fired or is this part of Flemming plan to eliminate the sales team completely? Just curious.

Anonymous
08-27-2008, 06:37 PM
Hey old friend! I was back in the day too, and you wouldn't recognize anyone on the salesforce unless you remember Lisa, Tanya and Dawn. Everyone else is new, and they've even fired some of the newest hires. They don't backfill, they just cherrypick here and there. What old territory were you? I'll drop you an email and catch you up. Wishing you the best...

Anonymous
08-27-2008, 08:27 PM
Is Alex gone too?

Anonymous
08-28-2008, 09:33 AM
Is Alex gone too?


Are you serious? Alex and Tanya are still at Octa? Next you'll say they are bringing Pat back! How could they have survived this long? Octa is amazing.

Anonymous
08-28-2008, 09:42 AM
Alex and Tanya are both very good at licking Flemming's shoes. He can control them so they can stay. It really is that simple.

Bringing Pat back would be the best thing they could do for the sales team. However, I know he would rather die than come back to Octa. He is very happy in his current position.