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Anonymous
05-14-2011, 08:59 PM
IMHO
First the Good:
1) The sales model is fantastic! It is small, efficient, and we truly have the freedom to run the territory the way we think it should be run. Using DDD #'s and measuring us with real dollar sales is awesome. No more elusive multipliers or incomplete IMS data.
2) I feel really good about Scott Johnson, my RM, and my DM. Had a chance to talk to Scott for a bit and I feel he's as refreshed about the this being small pharma as we are.
3) Great product with alot of potential.
4) The company is growing, not downsizing. In today's pharma world, that stands out.
5) The dinner on Thursday was great.
Now the bad:
1) The $8 is unrealistic. Let me say this again, THE $8 IS UNREALISTIC! If they truly believe that we are the "first impression" of the new "Regency Therapeutics", then me bringing in pizza for every lunch b/c I can't afford anything else isn't helping my image. That has got to be increased to $12-15/person. I mean, without fail, this has got to priority #1.
2) I understand the profitability issue, but nickel-and-diming us to death is getting to be a bit much. Set the per-diems all you want, but don't dictate what we can and can't have. Ex: I had to go to dinner and ask the waitress for two bills. One for my drink and one for my dinner. Again, Silly.
3) The absence of a trip makes me scratch my head. There should be a trip. Top 10% from each region.
4) PTO - Why are we going to penalized for sick days? We're all exempt employees and the fact that I have to record sick days takes me back to my first job out of college.
5) Roommates! OMG Roommates! 2-3 day meeting, maybe not that bad, but 5 days with someone is exhausting.
The good definitely outweighs the bad and I am happy to be here and excited to get started. I hope that Scott has our backs and that when we start bringing in the cash, that some of these issues go away so we can start being treated in ways that are indicative of our performance.
One of the speakers on the first day mentioned that American Regent had their NSM in Hawaii. I don't begrudge them, because they're are a damn profitable division. However, I would like to see something comparable for Regency if we blow out the #'s. Maybe not Hawaii, but Miami, Vegas, etc. would be fun.
Any other thoughts?
Anonymous
05-15-2011, 12:42 AM
The Good:
1. The sales managers seem pretty good.
2. The other sales people seem to be pros.
3. Product has potential.
The Bad
1. That's our CEO really?
2. I'm a little worried about how cheap this place seems to be.
Anonymous
05-15-2011, 10:24 AM
The entrepreneurial spirit is depleted a bit with the current rooming policy. It is big pharma if the policy is anything but single rooms. Basic needs are not being met and it is frankly a lack of respect forcing sharing. Please change the policy and you will have much more happier sales people at meetings. Too much time was spent in side conversations discussing how sharing a room was very unpleasant.
Otherwise, terrific meeting.
Anonymous
05-15-2011, 10:53 AM
Managers are pretty good???? OMG.....have you met Mike B?
The Good:
1. The sales managers seem pretty good.
2. The other sales people seem to be pros.
3. Product has potential.
The Bad
1. That's our CEO really?
2. I'm a little worried about how cheap this place seems to be.
Anonymous
05-15-2011, 01:44 PM
Managers are pretty good? OMG........did u happen to meet that ass hole Arnie A?
The Good:
1. The sales managers seem pretty good.
2. The other sales people seem to be pros.
3. Product has potential.
The Bad
1. That's our CEO really?
2. I'm a little worried about how cheap this place seems to be.
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 07:14 AM
"Gummers"? He should have been called on the carpet for using a slur. 200+10%? Really? More like an incentive to sandbag. Keep the ring. I'll take cash please. Roomates, yuck and no, not every other company does it. Insulting. And a single is a sales incentive? The 25% of net profits should have been a warning sign instead of something to be proud of. Think Cash Cow. This is not a start up. It is a new sales division of a large multi-national company.
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 09:20 AM
"Gummers"? He should have been called on the carpet for using a slur. 200+10%? Really? More like an incentive to sandbag. Keep the ring. I'll take cash please. Roomates, yuck and no, not every other company does it. Insulting. And a single is a sales incentive? The 25% of net profits should have been a warning sign instead of something to be proud of. Think Cash Cow. This is not a start up. It is a new sales division of a large multi-national company.
I agree. Every thing is done on the cheap here. They have big pharma money and are not willing to spend it . This attitude is sending up red flags for me ,I hope I am wrong but until I see different I will continue to look for a better career position.
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 12:46 PM
I agree. Every thing is done on the cheap here. They have big pharma money and are not willing to spend it . This attitude is sending up red flags for me ,I hope I am wrong but until I see different I will continue to look for a better career position.
GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD, YOU ARE THE DAIICHI CONTRACT SALES FORCE. YOU WILL HELP WITH THE LAUNCH THEN BYE BYE. THAT'S A FACT
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 04:06 PM
GET IT THRU YOUR HEAD, YOU ARE THE DAIICHI CONTRACT SALES FORCE. YOU WILL HELP WITH THE LAUNCH THEN BYE BYE. THAT'S A FACT
You may Be correct. but how do you know this? Do you work for DS?
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 05:19 PM
You may Be correct. but how do you know this? Do you work for DS?
WE WERE TOLD WHEN ASKED IN A OFFICE, WE'RE TO SAY THEY'RE ARE CONTRACT FORCE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALSO TOLD TO MAKE SURE DR. AND STAFF KNOW TO CALL DS FIRST IF THEY NEED ANYTHING. ALSO WE'RE NOT TO INCLUDE YOU IN ANY MEETINGS OR PROGRAMS. IF YOU FIND OUT WE'LL TELL YOU WE WERE JUST ABOUT TO CALL YOU IF NOT TOO BAD.
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 07:22 PM
WE WERE TOLD WHEN ASKED IN A OFFICE, WE'RE TO SAY THEY'RE ARE CONTRACT FORCE AND LEAVE IT AT THAT. ALSO TOLD TO MAKE SURE DR. AND STAFF KNOW TO CALL DS FIRST IF THEY NEED ANYTHING. ALSO WE'RE NOT TO INCLUDE YOU IN ANY MEETINGS OR PROGRAMS. IF YOU FIND OUT WE'LL TELL YOU WE WERE JUST ABOUT TO CALL YOU IF NOT TOO BAD.
I'm lmao! Yeah, let the Surgeons and ER physicians call DSI's primary care wunderkins when they need something? Holy shit, I needed that. You keep that hose right where it is and keep blowing smoke up your own ass and I'll go pull down the dollars. By the way, "Do you need a signature?"
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 08:18 PM
The word on the street is the current sales force might be let go in a couple of months or so? Not able to confirm, but a lot of buzz about it with a lot of sales reps from around the globe. It is a great product and it should work well.
Anonymous
05-16-2011, 08:29 PM
I heard the product may not be stocked at the local pharmacies as well. It is a great nasal spray and I think patients will be intersted in it.
Let's hug it out.
Anonymous
05-19-2011, 03:20 PM
I will be here for a year and I will be as successful as possible. After that, unless there are major changes, I will be leaving. This is nothing like the brochure
Yeah the year end award is downright joke. Flat out, downright joke. The roommates, the measly $8 pittance for lunch, having to email my manager every time I want to do a lunch are all really juvenile.
I'm waiting for them to start weighing our food portions at meetings. Or perhaps it would save even more money to have us just go through a soup line and then some poor blonde haired rep asks, "Please sir, may I have some more?" and they can beat him and berate him.
Anonymous
05-19-2011, 06:53 PM
lmao!
Anonymous
05-20-2011, 09:01 AM
It is a little hard to understand why they clearly don't like us - or trust us - the sales force needs a little TLC sometimes too ...
Anonymous
05-20-2011, 03:01 PM
It is a little hard to understand why they clearly don't like us - or trust us - the sales force needs a little TLC sometimes too ...
I guess I'd be pissed off too if you dumped 3x the workload on me. This place is/was not ready. Home office types often forget who brings home the bacon.
Anonymous
05-20-2011, 04:44 PM
You are correct hommie--from South L.A.
Anonymous
05-20-2011, 06:39 PM
I feel like I've been scammed. I know this is a start up, but if we are let go within a year then that is just unethical.
Anonymous
05-20-2011, 08:29 PM
I have to blow off a little steam on this thread. Years ago, working in a customer service organization, we were always told to aim for 93% satisfaction scores, since many studies have shown that the other 7% will not be happy no matter what you do (i.e. - whiners). I suspect a good deal of the aforementioned 7% of people are on this board. If you want to go back to 8.3 calls per day with 3 samples dropped, a manager breathing down your neck because you didn't deliver the "computer targeted message", 100 primary care customers (50 of which you can't see and management will still not cut you any slack), selling the 8th ACE inhibitor for hypertension ("I know it's $85 a month vs. the $4 generic....but we have a great study showing patients like the pink pill coating, doctor") - then GO!
In the meantime, I choose to have fun and kick your rear end all over the map. Go ahead and keep complaining about the model and options on your FREE company car. I suspect a visit to a third world country would serve you well.
I do not mean to condemn everyone on this board or I and other like minded folks would be included in that list as well. I realize that this post will bring a lot of heat on me - so be it. I leave you with this thought from a brighter mind than mine:
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
- Abraham Lincoln
Anonymous
05-21-2011, 07:26 AM
I have to blow off a little steam on this thread. Years ago, working in a customer service organization, we were always told to aim for 93% satisfaction scores, since many studies have shown that the other 7% will not be happy no matter what you do (i.e. - whiners). I suspect a good deal of the aforementioned 7% of people are on this board. If you want to go back to 8.3 calls per day with 3 samples dropped, a manager breathing down your neck because you didn't deliver the "computer targeted message", 100 primary care customers (50 of which you can't see and management will still not cut you any slack), selling the 8th ACE inhibitor for hypertension ("I know it's $85 a month vs. the $4 generic....but we have a great study showing patients like the pink pill coating, doctor") - then GO!
In the meantime, I choose to have fun and kick your rear end all over the map. Go ahead and keep complaining about the model and options on your FREE company car. I suspect a visit to a third world country would serve you well.
I do not mean to condemn everyone on this board or I and other like minded folks would be included in that list as well. I realize that this post will bring a lot of heat on me - so be it. I leave you with this thought from a brighter mind than mine:
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
- Abraham Lincoln
All I can add is: A-fucking-men!
Anonymous
05-21-2011, 06:21 PM
Amen hommie. I feel you my hommie.
Anonymous
05-21-2011, 07:53 PM
what is a "hommie"? and why do you keep typing it here?
please 'splain to us dolts...
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 03:58 AM
Everything in this thread, when it comes to what is being said negatively on the streets comes first hand from the insiders at corportate; get them drunk on the Thursday after the NSM dinner, get them to let their gaurd down, and you would be supprised at what the corporate executives say.... They are laughing at how easy of a sell it was for them to sell each and every person on the pyramid (172 sales people to be exact); increasing the cash cow while all those under the umbrella lose, including all of your past/former clients, relationships and contacts.
Sitting in the bar at the NSM, it was said by an RM to a couple DM's, give it 90days and we will see who is in the "WEEDS" and then we will let them go and reorganize our region. Does the word "WEEDS" sound familiar? I heard it all the time at the last company I worked for and from a DM now RM - goes by the initials AH; he brought his clones and micromanagers with him from the other companies he was involved with...
Funny thing about all of the new sales force is that all were laid off or in transition, so it was like taking candy from a baby; I don't blame everyone from needing a pay check and a decent one until it expires... But remember to all who signed up for their 90 days, the company owns your relationships. If you didn't have your attorney read your contracts because you were to excited about the pyramid and the cash, your mistake; 90 days you will see.... Remember what was said at the NSM, DS and Osteohealth divisions will be moving in at the beginning of June/July after they launch-Sprix... So why would the company need 172 new sales people- ramping up the campaign to ramp dow to the actual need.
Get as many protocols in place in 90 days, turn over your portfolio, heres a severance, Bye-Bye!!!!!!! Back to the unemploymet line!!!!!! Next company.... Doesn't looks real good on a resume.... However it sounds like typical Pharma....
Get out before it is to late and you tarnish all your relationships!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 04:15 AM
Everything in this thread, when it comes to what is being said negatively on the streets comes first hand from the insiders at corportate; get them drunk on the Thursday after the NSM dinner, get them to let their gaurd down, and you would be supprised at what the corporate executives say.... They are laughing at how easy of a sell it was for them to sell each and every person on the pyramid (172 sales people to be exact); increasing the cash cow while all those under the umbrella lose, including all of your past/former clients, relationships and contacts.
Sitting in the bar at the NSM, it was said by an RM to a couple DM's, give it 90days and we will see who is in the "WEEDS" and then we will let them go and reorganize our region. Does the word "WEEDS" sound familiar? I heard it all the time at the last company I worked for and from a DM now RM - goes by the initials AH; he brought his clones and micromanagers with him from the other companies he was involved with...
Funny thing about all of the new sales force is that all were laid off or in transition, so it was like taking candy from a baby; I don't blame everyone from needing a pay check and a decent one until it expires... But remember to all who signed up for their 90 days, the company owns your relationships. If you didn't have your attorney read your contracts because you were to excited about the pyramid and the cash, your mistake; 90 days you will see.... Remember what was said at the NSM, DS and Osteohealth divisions will be moving in at the beginning of June/July after they launch-Sprix... So why would the company need 172 new sales people- ramping up the campaign to ramp dow to the actual need.
Get as many protocols in place in 90 days, turn over your portfolio, heres a severance, Bye-Bye!!!!!!! Back to the unemploymet line!!!!!! Next company.... Doesn't looks real good on a resume.... However it sounds like typical Pharma....
Get out before it is to late and you tarnish all your relationships!!!!!!!!
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 08:51 AM
Everything in this thread, when it comes to what is being said negatively on the streets comes first hand from the insiders at corportate; get them drunk on the Thursday after the NSM dinner, get them to let their gaurd down, and you would be supprised at what the corporate executives say.... They are laughing at how easy of a sell it was for them to sell each and every person on the pyramid (172 sales people to be exact); increasing the cash cow while all those under the umbrella lose, including all of your past/former clients, relationships and contacts.
Sitting in the bar at the NSM, it was said by an RM to a couple DM's, give it 90days and we will see who is in the "WEEDS" and then we will let them go and reorganize our region. Does the word "WEEDS" sound familiar? I heard it all the time at the last company I worked for and from a DM now RM - goes by the initials AH; he brought his clones and micromanagers with him from the other companies he was involved with...
Funny thing about all of the new sales force is that all were laid off or in transition, so it was like taking candy from a baby; I don't blame everyone from needing a pay check and a decent one until it expires... But remember to all who signed up for their 90 days, the company owns your relationships. If you didn't have your attorney read your contracts because you were to excited about the pyramid and the cash, your mistake; 90 days you will see.... Remember what was said at the NSM, DS and Osteohealth divisions will be moving in at the beginning of June/July after they launch-Sprix... So why would the company need 172 new sales people- ramping up the campaign to ramp dow to the actual need.
Get as many protocols in place in 90 days, turn over your portfolio, heres a severance, Bye-Bye!!!!!!! Back to the unemploymet line!!!!!! Next company.... Doesn't looks real good on a resume.... However it sounds like typical Pharma....
Get out before it is to late and you tarnish all your relationships!!!!!!!!
This doesn't even make sense. There are so many holes in your argument, I don't where to begin.
You're telling me that they went through all of the trouble of hiring a sales force, securing a fleet of company cars, flew us all to Austin, put us up in a 4 star hotel, paid for our meals, and supplied benefits for DMs and RMs who are now eligible, just so they can fire us in 90 days?
This is ridiculous!!! You keep coming back to DSI coming in in June or July and then imply that our goose is cooked. So you're telling me that they hired us just because they couldn't wait the 6-8 weeks until DSI had the product?
None of your argument makes any sense at all. You should go away and play with your mega blocks because you can't afford Legos.
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 09:00 AM
I have to blow off a little steam on this thread. Years ago, working in a customer service organization, we were always told to aim for 93% satisfaction scores, since many studies have shown that the other 7% will not be happy no matter what you do (i.e. - whiners). I suspect a good deal of the aforementioned 7% of people are on this board. If you want to go back to 8.3 calls per day with 3 samples dropped, a manager breathing down your neck because you didn't deliver the "computer targeted message", 100 primary care customers (50 of which you can't see and management will still not cut you any slack), selling the 8th ACE inhibitor for hypertension ("I know it's $85 a month vs. the $4 generic....but we have a great study showing patients like the pink pill coating, doctor") - then GO!
In the meantime, I choose to have fun and kick your rear end all over the map. Go ahead and keep complaining about the model and options on your FREE company car. I suspect a visit to a third world country would serve you well.
I do not mean to condemn everyone on this board or I and other like minded folks would be included in that list as well. I realize that this post will bring a lot of heat on me - so be it. I leave you with this thought from a brighter mind than mine:
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
- Abraham Lincoln
The small part of ignorance that we arrange and classify we give the name of knowledge.
Ambrose Bierce
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 05:08 PM
could all the people that don't work here please go find another board? thank you. we don't need to read your wacko ramblings ...
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 06:44 PM
I agree, and I do not work there--thank God. I know a lot of people in the industry and the word is people will be let go in 90 days and there will be a big reallignment put in place. This is the truth. Look, why are all the D.M.'s riding with sales reps every week then for the first 90 days straight, becuase they will keep 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 sales reps. That's a fact. They also hired people in a matter of days--I'm telling you my female friends are very hot and they are looking because they know it's the truth. All you salespeople will be burned. They told my friends they can fire anyone in the first 90 days for no reason--and they will. Then the people left behind will be looking as well. Also, they will let a couple managers go or at least one. My female friends have a clue on it. Good luck and start dialing 9-1-1.
Anonymous
05-22-2011, 06:56 PM
This sounds like a show at the amusement park.
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 01:39 AM
I'm glad I do not work here and this is what corporate America does--ruins people's lives and all the p.o.s. up on top make BIG $$$ and they can do it.
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 01:12 PM
Since Luitpold bought this product, I would think they would want to see it succeed and maintain control of it. It would not make since to spend the effort and cost to recruit this many people only to let everyone go in 90 days. The people that do a good job should have nothing to worry about.
Sprix seems like a product with a lot of potential. Just do your job and stop being so paranoid.
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 03:06 PM
It would not make since to spend the effort and cost to recruit this many people only to let everyone go in 90 days.
Serious questions:
Scenario #1... What if you become sick/ill before the 90 day period is up?
Scenario #2... What if you're injured and are unable to work at any point during the 90 day period?
Who pays for you to get better? Who pays for your doctor/hospital visit? Who pays for your medication? Do you not get paid while your not working / recovering? Will you still have a job at all when you are able to work again?
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 04:38 PM
What if you simply go away with these stupid questions. We are too busy to yap about this with you.
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 06:41 PM
The word is out pal your sales force is starting 2 look for other jobs--they know you guys are letting them go in 90 days--just tell the truth.
Anonymous
05-23-2011, 11:56 PM
None of your argument makes any sense at all. You should go away and play with your mega blocks because you can't afford Legos.[/QUOTE]
Sorry, I have Lego's!!!! And I am still collecting a check form Corporate!!!!
Problem, you don't understand english or business so let me say it so you will understand:
New Start-Up Marketing Campaign 101 - ROI; Hire as many qualified candidates with direct contacts/relationships as possible (every person hired has a direct relationship with docs). Brand your message to as many contacts/relationships as possible (Sprix Messaging preached all week at NSM). Convert as many customers/relationships to gain as many repeat customers/sales as possible (protocols).
If I am a company who has invested a boat load of money (purchase of ROXRO in May 2010 for sole purpose of SPRIX), how do I get the quickest return on my investment (ROI)????
Marketing 101: Gouging Price Point and increase sales force to get the maximum benefit and brand out there!
So your arguement may be that this isn't a start-Up? Regency Therapeutics is a new division therefore it is a new start-up... Like any new division short term success will determine the future of those hired and the the company business plans long term goal, if any....
Some may still have jobs in and beyond the 90 day period (1/2 the sales force) but if you were anywhere near the NSM and actually listened to the executives, you should have realized the reality of the long term outcomes when they said; GOOD LUCK, WE HOPE, I HOPE TO LEARN YOUR NAME, I HOPE YOU WILL BE SUCCESSFUL, I THINK THIS WILL BE A GOOD PRODUCT TO PUSH, ECT. (Such a positive message).
This lack luster positive messaging was driven home by the RM's/DM's reminders of getting the quick business; dont concentrate on the low hanging fruit, only the ones you can convert today and who hold the most potential in the long term. Quick sales will impact corporate and determine your future....
Hell, even Mary Jane couldn't look at anyone in the eye.... I watched her interact with people after she spoke and during the release of the meeting on Day One at the NSM and she had a hard time looking at anyone in the eye. So I approached her and introduced myself, Hi my name is Jeff ?, it is nice to meet you and I really appreciate the opporunity. She didn't/couldn't look at me in the eye nor did she act like she cared... The reality of someone who cares but knows they are using someone or are being dishonest- they can't look you in the eye or inject sincerity and they lack facial cues....
This along with her's and the company executives hesitation of positive messaging was a clear sign...
They kept saying this is Big Pharma in a Small Pharma atmosphere..... All of them had come from huge Pharma industry backgrounds and one would have thought they would have been blowing up the stage with excitement and enthusiasm... NOT AT ALL!!!!!
Sprix may hold potential, and it will do well but the current force is being used and the reality is the majority will all be gone by the end of the first and second quarters.
Enjoy and I hope the best for you!
Anonymous
05-24-2011, 06:52 PM
Better get out the aluminum foil hats, the black helicopters are back. In all seriousness, you're a fool.
Anonymous
05-25-2011, 08:13 AM
I have to blow off a little steam on this thread. Years ago, working in a customer service organization, we were always told to aim for 93% satisfaction scores, since many studies have shown that the other 7% will not be happy no matter what you do (i.e. - whiners). I suspect a good deal of the aforementioned 7% of people are on this board. If you want to go back to 8.3 calls per day with 3 samples dropped, a manager breathing down your neck because you didn't deliver the "computer targeted message", 100 primary care customers (50 of which you can't see and management will still not cut you any slack), selling the 8th ACE inhibitor for hypertension ("I know it's $85 a month vs. the $4 generic....but we have a great study showing patients like the pink pill coating, doctor") - then GO!
In the meantime, I choose to have fun and kick your rear end all over the map. Go ahead and keep complaining about the model and options on your FREE company car. I suspect a visit to a third world country would serve you well.
I do not mean to condemn everyone on this board or I and other like minded folks would be included in that list as well. I realize that this post will bring a lot of heat on me - so be it. I leave you with this thought from a brighter mind than mine:
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
- Abraham Lincoln
Well friend, Your 7% whiners are about 90 % in this bottom of the food chain outfit and with good reason: Upper management should have delayed the launch if they couldn't get the wholesaler contracts solidified(which they didn't( ie Cardinal),managed markets should have been out 6 months before launch to gain contracts and they could have open the piggy bank and sent out blitzs to the major pharmacies to gain a fast buy in of Sprix. This company did almost nothing to prepare for the launch of this drug and now we are the scapegoats who will do the dirty work for DS when they come in . Face folks what we are selling is nothing new :it is a 20 year old generic in a nasal form with no managed care coverage,part D or medicaid and at 137.50 awp is going to cause sticker shock to the patients who do manage to stumble into a pharmacy and the pharmacist tells them your plan doesn't cover this and then they call the Dr and he gets pissed off and gives them a $6 generic ketrolac or a rx of hydrocodone. This company couldn't find their assholes with a mirror and a stick!
Anonymous
05-25-2011, 11:33 AM
Well friend, Your 7% whiners are about 90 % in this bottom of the food chain outfit and with good reason: Upper management should have delayed the launch if they couldn't get the wholesaler contracts solidified(which they didn't( ie Cardinal),managed markets should have been out 6 months before launch to gain contracts and they could have open the piggy bank and sent out blitzs to the major pharmacies to gain a fast buy in of Sprix. This company did almost nothing to prepare for the launch of this drug and now we are the scapegoats who will do the dirty work for DS when they come in . Face folks what we are selling is nothing new :it is a 20 year old generic in a nasal form with no managed care coverage,part D or medicaid and at 137.50 awp is going to cause sticker shock to the patients who do manage to stumble into a pharmacy and the pharmacist tells them your plan doesn't cover this and then they call the Dr and he gets pissed off and gives them a $6 generic ketrolac or a rx of hydrocodone. This company couldn't find their assholes with a mirror and a stick!
I AM READING THIS AND CAN'T HELP BUT THINK THAT I AM SO GLAD THAT I DON'T WORK HERE!
(just so you know: a lot of people are watching your company right now)
Anonymous
05-25-2011, 05:56 PM
All the negative posts are just that - sure - this is a lot of sweat but it can be done. Everyone watching should be amazed. This is how a small company gets bigger. Obviously, some people are not cut out for building a company with one product. Thank goodness some of us are and we are too busy to sit on here complaining. In a perfect world, everything and everyone would be perfect. We do not live or work in a perfect world but I can tell you - pharmacies and practitioners are interested. We will launch this product and it will do well.
Anonymous
05-25-2011, 07:45 PM
Well friend, Your 7% whiners are about 90 % in this bottom of the food chain outfit and with good reason: Upper management should have delayed the launch if they couldn't get the wholesaler contracts solidified(which they didn't( ie Cardinal),managed markets should have been out 6 months before launch to gain contracts and they could have open the piggy bank and sent out blitzs to the major pharmacies to gain a fast buy in of Sprix. This company did almost nothing to prepare for the launch of this drug and now we are the scapegoats who will do the dirty work for DS when they come in . Face folks what we are selling is nothing new :it is a 20 year old generic in a nasal form with no managed care coverage,part D or medicaid and at 137.50 awp is going to cause sticker shock to the patients who do manage to stumble into a pharmacy and the pharmacist tells them your plan doesn't cover this and then they call the Dr and he gets pissed off and gives them a $6 generic ketrolac or a rx of hydrocodone. This company couldn't find their assholes with a mirror and a stick!
The Cardinal debacle ... uggh! But hey, we do have CRM!
Anonymous
05-25-2011, 08:20 PM
All the negative posts are just that - sure - this is a lot of sweat but it can be done. Everyone watching should be amazed. This is how a small company gets bigger. Obviously, some people are not cut out for building a company with one product. Thank goodness some of us are and we are too busy to sit on here complaining. In a perfect world, everything and everyone would be perfect. We do not live or work in a perfect world but I can tell you - pharmacies and practitioners are interested. We will launch this product and it will do well.
which RM keeps acting like Tony Robbins on here?
Anonymous
05-26-2011, 08:28 AM
which RM keeps acting like Tony Robbins on here?
If we all hold hands wish real hard and sing kumbyaa ,all the problems not only of this bottom -feeding run company BUT the World will be solved! Give me a Freaking break!!
Anonymous
06-02-2011, 08:24 PM
Kids who are washing cars on a Saturday in front of there high school have more management expertise than the managers at Luitpold. The expectations are a joke here. 98% of the sales force will not obtain quota here. This is a real joke here. Everyone is interviewing elsewhere. The reps are not happy.
Where are the damn pharmacy aides? How many times do we have to ask for them????
Oh, I forgot--do not call the home office. NO CLASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Anonymous
06-02-2011, 08:26 PM
I'm laughing and almost spilled my Bud Light on me. I'm glad I turned down this p.o.s. job. Who rides with reps every week.
To funny.
Anonymous
06-04-2011, 05:24 AM
I agree. If you ride with reps every week--they won't work the rest of the week--home office. Do you finally get it? Also, where are the pharmacy sell sheets? Will I get them by New Year's? What's the problem with stocking the pharmacies? You can't do it can you? Also, tell the damn managers to answer when the hell will this cheap run company will pay for our credentialing. Send this damn post to the President with a box of Wheaties. We have been waiting for a while now.
Anonymous
06-04-2011, 07:20 AM
which RM keeps acting like Tony Robbins on here?
It's got to be Mike B.....
Anonymous
06-04-2011, 11:16 AM
Why can't this cheap run company pay for the reps credentialing. Why can't we get selling aide's. Oh, go get Walgreens and Walmart stocked. Oh, next do not stock them. Now run over here. Oh, no I didn't say that. Now go do this.. Oh, ride alongs every week this will be fun. We were told no micro management in the interview process and lied too. What do you think the reps are doing now. There not working the rest of the week. You brought it upon yourselves. Thanks for the no 90 day insurance coverage--oh all the other companies offer it.
Just pititful.
Anonymous
10-14-2011, 04:22 PM
I have to blow off a little steam on this thread. Years ago, working in a customer service organization, we were always told to aim for 93% satisfaction scores, since many studies have shown that the other 7% will not be happy no matter what you do (i.e. - whiners). I suspect a good deal of the aforementioned 7% of people are on this board. If you want to go back to 8.3 calls per day with 3 samples dropped, a manager breathing down your neck because you didn't deliver the "computer targeted message", 100 primary care customers (50 of which you can't see and management will still not cut you any slack), selling the 8th ACE inhibitor for hypertension ("I know it's $85 a month vs. the $4 generic....but we have a great study showing patients like the pink pill coating, doctor") - then GO!
In the meantime, I choose to have fun and kick your rear end all over the map. Go ahead and keep complaining about the model and options on your FREE company car. I suspect a visit to a third world country would serve you well.
I do not mean to condemn everyone on this board or I and other like minded folks would be included in that list as well. I realize that this post will bring a lot of heat on me - so be it. I leave you with this thought from a brighter mind than mine:
"Most people are about as happy as they make up their minds to be."
- Abraham Lincoln
This no nuts manager always leaves posts with some dumb ass quote saying something abuot how lucky we are to have a job and third world country bullshit! He also wears Sears polyester stretchy suits. God damn joke!
Anonymous
10-19-2011, 12:58 AM
Yes, and he hasn't been laid since PROM either--if he got laid on that night as well. A total pencil neck geek from Pfizer I bet.
A stoolpigeon.
Anonymous
10-24-2011, 05:18 PM
The NSM is going to be great fun-nny. Most of us are going to come to the meeting in our liezure suit because the meeting will be so cheap. I heard they aren't even going to let us expense our luggage on the flight down. Carry on only.
Anonymous
10-25-2011, 12:07 AM
Yes, you are not able to expense your luggage, pay for your hooptie for 5 days at the airport--no reimbursement there either, and take the short yellow bus to the hotel. Also, it's in the rough part of Miami--cutbacks.
No reimbursement for alcohol at all!!
Oh yeah, dinner is at the buffet at Golden Corral every night. Help yourself to some old fruit from Walmart and water from the bubbler down the hall for breakfast. Are we staying at the Hampton Inn--so cheap.
UMMM also everybody let me please say
ALL THE BEST!!!
I'm so looking forward staying at a low rent convention center motel with 3 other roomies per room--ahah.
Anonymous
10-31-2011, 02:09 AM
Yes, you are not able to expense your luggage, pay for your hooptie for 5 days at the airport--no reimbursement there either, and take the short yellow bus to the hotel. Also, it's in the rough part of Miami--cutbacks.
No reimbursement for alcohol at all!!
Oh yeah, dinner is at the buffet at Golden Corral every night. Help yourself to some old fruit from Walmart and water from the bubbler down the hall for breakfast. Are we staying at the Hampton Inn--so cheap.
UMMM also everybody let me please say
ALL THE BEST!!!
I'm so looking forward staying at a low rent convention center motel with 3 other roomies per room--ahah.
OMG..that is so funny and true ! I just pee'd all over my studies!! Oh let's not forget , make sure you fax in your desired location of your twin bed ,in your bedroom shared with other looser-poles. Oh but wait, what? yes that is right, no using the company credit card for faxes, it is on you! Oh so is the fax paper, machine, ink cartridge. Oh but wait, look here, did you know that you could have Breakfast and Lunch and Dinner at the hotel and not have to buy any soft drinks? Yes sir ree, it helps save the company money! So here is all you have to do, just walk up to your oom, and get water from the tap and bring it back down to the dining room! This is so amazing, call it modern technology! Uhhhh huh..wew who!! I am so looking forward to another trip to ghetto patch land, with all the cheap ass looserpole folks! This place sucks wind! Have fun!!
Anonymous
11-02-2011, 06:05 AM
ALL THE BEST!
N.S.M. will suck and all the best!
No one is looking forward to this coach roach hotel meeting.
Anonymous
11-02-2011, 04:45 PM
Super 8, Motel 6, Days Inn, Orlando CoachRoach Hotel--no class.
All The Best!
Anonymous
11-02-2011, 09:34 PM
Please write to Joji Nakayama President and CEO of Daiichi Sankyo. Tell him how bad the culture and the leadership at Luitpold Pharmaceuticals is. Here is the address
3-5-1, Nihonbashi-honcho, Chuo-ku, Tokyo
103-8426, Japan.
Phone:+81-3-6225-1111
If you are tired of being treated like cheap garbage, there is only one way to address it since the top won't listen to sales. Write Mr. Nakayama and tell him how bad it is.
Anonymous
11-03-2011, 08:00 AM
I will today.
All the best!
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