Realistic Pay

[Anonymous]

what is realistic pay first year?...had a call from a recruiter who said around 240K...is this position more 1099? Thanks for any honest answers.

[Anonymous]

Realistically 80k.

[Anonymous]

The company has NO clinical studies, NO reimbursement, make shift, off label case studies, no contracts and from what I heard is just like surgisis. 80k is about right. Recruiter is talking out his/her ass!

[Anonymous]

240k is very unrealistic....80k if lucky first year.

[Anonymous]

80% of reps make less than 75K. select few may make 100K. Top rep in company making no more than 200K. Average 50-60K #truth

[Anonymous]

I also had a recruiter call me and tell me their base is 70k plus average reps are pulling 15k per mo in commission. Does this compete with lifecells' products? Who is their competition? BTW the FDA hasn't stopped the Robot.....

[Anonymous]

Biologics are expensive and there is a high volume of cases out there. For reps to only be making 80K then this product does not work or the current reps are incompetent. Just my 2 cents...

[Anonymous]

From the outside, this is an interesting company. It appears as though they are going through some growing pains. They have some interesting technology, but no human data to support their claims. When a company goes from 1099's to Direct sales force, it typically indicates that a drive to increase sales would result in a higher selling price for the company. When looking at a new company to work for, don't use public forums. Find out names of current reps from whomever you interview with and ask to speak to current reps. This is your best resource. If they won't give you people to talk to, then you probably don't want to be there anyway.

[Anonymous]

A bud just started at ACell. He said its a $100K guaranteee the 1st year. Then 14% commission. That' $140K on $1,000,000 in sales.
Ran, don't walk from this job.

[Anonymous]

If you make $140 a year on 14% commission why would this be a job that you would run from? I am not seeing your logic and I am not trying to be a wisegal here but just trying to get all the facts about this job before I move forward of accepting position. I think $140 is good but does this job consume 60 hours a week in a extremely competitive market?

[Anonymous]

What does Hugh make in Vegas? Is he one of top reps?

[Anonymous]

140K on 1,000,000 is good, but lets just put it in realistic terms. From the reps I have talked to, very very few are doing this well. I have seen turnover in my territory. That is unrealistic to think you will have a 1,000,000 dollar territory in 12 months. Like any good recruiter, they tell you otherwise or what the top few are earning.

As for the post about biologics being pricey, that is true in the larger cases. Much of Acell business is small wound care that does not add up to a good commission check.

[Anonymous]

There are a tremendous amount of challenges with this company for little pay. you spend 3-4 months alone just finding surgeon champions to support the product through new product committees/ value analysis. Insurance denials are plentiful as well, there is no data! As much as Acell would like to be a player in the hernia and abdominal wall reconstruction space, they just aren't. Surgeons think the material isn't strong enough and again, ZERO studies to show efficacy in this application!! Extremely high turnover amongst reps, no one from my training class 7 months ago is left, they all pursued other opportunities after discovering they had been lied to and oversold on this opportunity, truly nothing more than another wound care company!!!

[Anonymous]

A comp plan is a comp plan. It's only as good as the reimbursement and product. I worked for ACell and it was the most stressful job i have ever had. My training was an iPad with incomplete wound pictures. I had not one piece of marketing material to leave behind as they were also unfinished wound pictures. I was not taught one thing about the competition or how to sell against them. Nor was I able to get in front of my docs because they don't give you a budget to work with. This is the epitome of a distributor. Then all you hear about is the 2 or 3 success stories from the managers. They are like broken records. When has anyone ever worked for a medical device company and the sales force individual percent to plan or swept under the rug. No rankings, no monthly reports or trends are given. They hide everything. What's sad is that they think the reps are stupid and do not know what's going on. The only answer ACell has is to keep hiring more people. I feel bad for the reps because they have absolutely no support. Most of the time, I couldn't get a return phone call from my manager or you are completely ignored from corporate. They can't fire anyone on performance because they would have to let go 75% of their sales force. I never even saw a percent to plan number.There is so many fundamentally things wrong with the way that company is run it is really embarrassing. And yes, there were no clinicals and from what I hear there still is not. There is a bunch of science but the company doesn't teach you the talking points or how to position the information. Off-label is an understatement. Weekly conference calls on off label use. I have never witnessed anything like this before in my career. The sad thing is that the word is out and the reputation is getting creamed.

[Anonymous]

90% of the salesforce will make less than $85K. They lied to us. They should be ashamed for the way they presented this company and compensation during the interview process.

[Anonymous]

90% of the salesforce will make less than $85K. They lied to us. They should be ashamed for the way they presented this company and compensation during the interview process.

I agree. I'm embarrassed to be a part of this company. Leaving ASAP!

[Anonymous]

I just left. I had too. Got downsized from a previous company and ACELL was the only thing that I had to put food on the table. They lied to me and the product is not bad but there is no support. Most of the physicians laugh at the product.

[Anonymous]

"They laugh at it". I have docs who laugh at me. What kind of profession is this. I remember the one gyn who said "ma'am, please take that product and dispose of it in my garbage can. She than said "go to the bakery and pick up a powder donut. Now take the powder and make it rain in this beoootch. Now take the donut and shove it up your acel as@ and leave. Than she laughed at me.

[Anonymous]

We all hope you succeed. I hope you will be at some of the local trade shows so we can chat. This place is awesome, at being not awesome :)

[Anonymous]

Realistic pay= $75k
Anyone who tells you a number above $90k is a liar.

[Anonymous]

Realistic pay= $75k
Anyone who tells you a number above $90k is a liar.

That's if you don't get kicked out of the hospital.

[Anonymous]

Fascinating posts. I'm glad tr pulled this line from me now. Funny how the rep who left me to go with Tracy wants to come back and work for me. I will bring him back to the team...he just fell for the b.s. and so did I actually. I feel bad for those good reps out there remember who ou left to work here and ask yourself..."mm, can I win am arm wrestling tournament"?
I think you can. Gotta go "powda storm" heading south.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the few reps making decent money and even I'm concerned about the way they treat the salesforce. We'll never make it unless we start paying the good reps. I know several great people that have already left, and several more looking to leave. If things don't change by Jan 1, I'm gone too. I don't understand what they are doing.

[Anonymous]

Look at RTI Biologics. Starting a new sales force.

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the few reps making decent money and even I'm concerned about the way they treat the salesforce. We'll never make it unless we start paying the good reps. I know several great people that have already left, and several more looking to leave. If things don't change by Jan 1, I'm gone too. I don't understand what they are doing.

Acell will continue to lie to reps and pay them $80K/yr. If the rep leaves, they'll lie to the next rep and/or put an inexperienced warm body in their place. I wouldn't recommend this company to anyone looking for a position. There are plenty of other jobs, even in this economy, with better pay, better benefits, and much better leadership. Proceed with caution, ya'll.

[Anonymous]

92% of Reps make less than $95K/yr (vast majority make $75K) Don't let anyone tell you it's more than that.

[Anonymous]

92% of Reps make less than $95K/yr (vast majority make $75K) Don't let anyone tell you it's more than that.

did you really get up at 8:45 am and post the same exact "stat" in four different threads?

[Anonymous]

Yep. Was waiting for my case to start. I'll post it 100X if I want to. People need to hear the truth

[Anonymous]

FACT = 92% of Reps make less than $95K/yr (vast majority make $75K) Don't let anyone tell you it's more than that.

Make sure everyone knows the truth about this place

[Anonymous]

Pay is garbage!!! First year average is $80k! And zero car allowance!

ACell is the biggest joke in the industry right now. Other reps know it, recruiters know it, and some Surgeons are starting to hear about it.

[Anonymous]

Pay is garbage!!! First year average is $80k! And zero car allowance!

ACell is the biggest joke in the industry right now. Other reps know it, recruiters know it, and some Surgeons are starting to hear about it.