Abbott 700 Wyeth 750 Purdue 850

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We talked about the pods,and multi reps,calling on one Doctor. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/blush.gif

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We talked about the pods,and multi reps,calling on one Doctor. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/blush.gif

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If you read carefully, you'll note the 700 cut from Abbott will be manufacturing jobs!! But, they do indicate there will be future cuts in other areas...

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Yes, the 700 jobs will start in Mfg and then the next phase to
sales,but the Industry continues to downsize.

[Anonymous]

Pharma needs to drop about 30,000 more reps

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Pharma needs to drop about 30,000 more reps

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The way things are going, it could happen http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/shocked.gif

[Anonymous]

pharma needs to drop all the 100k sales reps. this should be an internet based system where docs can go online to read their medical information and request samples to be sent to them. this would save the companies and the patients a lot of money!

[Anonymous]

Aggreed. Too much duplication ---especially in geographicly(sp) condensed territories. I know companies talk about reach and frequency---but physicians don't care about frequency other than to recieve more samples which are wasted on many people who can afford them or have ph. insurance.
I aggree that the new generation of doctors are more computer savy.....they do CME on line and study new products on line. However, the sampling process & our verbal commercials are the biggest issue.That is one of the major reasons why the companies keep us around because with government regulations it's difficult to track samples. Another process that the industry has looked at is having physicians being able to use coupons for samples.
However, pharmacists are so busy and can't handle the load of patients with sample coupons. Another process being looked at are- sample vending machines where a vendor(drug wholesaler) in an armoured truck like (Wells Fargo) keeps vending machine inventory in check. The vending machines would house samples of the drugs created through a formulary system. The physician would create a swipe card for his patients which has data input of what samples they are to recieve and how many. This system is under test market---alot of kinks to work out but with technology it can be done. Just think how much money the pharma companies could save on this process if it was flawless. There would still be a few reps per company in a given area to promote, do PR and get drugs on the vending formulary------but companies would save a bundle. Imagine Merck, Pfizer and GSK going from 10-12 reps a territory down to 3. Add up cars, salaries, gas, insurances, other expenses and lets just say it's $200,000.00 per rep. Reduce rep from 10-3. Lay off 7 reps per territory. That's alot of money when you do the math for the whole country. It will be interesting to see what the future holds.

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All I got to say is Fu*k Purdue. All you losers get a job and get off this site. For real, dudes. GROW UP.!!! Get a grip. YOU BUNCH OF LOSERS. Think about your own lives not about others. You think how much money they save or spend is gonna predict your life's outcome. Go take the first out-of-space ticket that is available. That's where you bunch of losers belong. ANYONE WHO IS STILL WORKING FOR PURDUE IS A SORRY ASS, JUST LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO THINK THEY ARE GONNA WIN THE POWERBALL. FU*K oFF.

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pharma needs to drop all the 100k sales reps. this should be an internet based system where docs can go online to read their medical information and request samples to be sent to them. this would save the companies and the patients a lot of money!

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Wouldn't change the cost of drugs hardly by a nickle. We are dirt cheap. My territory generates about 10 million a year in sales. In ANY other outside sales job, if your sales were 10 million dollars a year, you'd be making more than a pharma rep.

We're dirt cheap.

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pharma needs to drop all the 100k sales reps. this should be an internet based system where docs can go online to read their medical information and request samples to be sent to them. this would save the companies and the patients a lot of money!

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Wouldn't change the cost of drugs hardly by a nickle. We are dirt cheap. My territory generates about 10 million a year in sales. In ANY other outside sales job, if your sales were 10 million dollars a year, you'd be making more than a pharma rep.

We're dirt cheap.

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So true. Anyone who thinks getting rid of reps would lower drug prices is a moron. As a percentage of sales, our cost is miniscule. DTC costs more than we do!

[Anonymous]

You guys are missing the whole point, getting rid of the Pharmaceutical Industry is the first step to really treating patients and not killing them.

[Anonymous]

DTC and other forms of communicating the message may be expensive, but their return on that investment is much higher than many sales reps' sample drops, drive by calls, and 30 second sound bites. At average cost of $150,000 X 800 reps....that $120 million per year can be put to better use elsewhere.

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DTC and other forms of communicating the message may be expensive, but their return on that investment is much higher than many sales reps' sample drops, drive by calls, and 30 second sound bites. At average cost of $150,000 X 800 reps....that $120 million per year can be put to better use elsewhere.

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The ROI for reps has been worked out many times. Trust me, it is worth the cost or they wouldn't do it. Nothing will ever be able to replace face to face contact with a physician. Maybe more intense management would reduce the incidence of rep laziness.

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You guys are missing the whole point, getting rid of the Pharmaceutical Industry is the first step to really treating patients and not killing them.

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And medicines would be developed by who? Fairies? This thread just jumped the shark with this asshole.

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Love how the guy tells everyone to get a life, but s/he's responding to posts dead since July.

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I'm not disputing the value of a face-to-face conversation - there is good value with it, but at a certain point which was reached quite a while ago, the returns are diminishing. Companies are not going to get rid of sales forces, but they will spread out the ability to reach physicians to different outlets. Many payors are using outcomes based medicine to determine which drugs they will pay for which reduces the ability of a salesperson to influence the doctor's decision on a large number of patients.