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Anonymous

12-06-2005, 01:33 AM

ARE YOU PEOPLE CRAZY?

Are you forgetting how he totally F--ed everything up when Pegasys launched? Roche should be paying him for all the money they've made.

Also, fought for incentives? This idiot got on a conference call with the entire sales force saying that he knows there are reporting issues and they'll be resolved quickly. NOTHING EVER HAPPENED! Not to mention, 5 months later at the POA's he stood up in front of everyone and said that he didn't want to hear about reporting issues any longer and we just have to sell.

I don't know if you people are new and bought into his nice guy image, but you have to look at the facts. Maybe in the next few days, I'll come on here and lay out a few more total screw ups this guy has made over the years.

Right now, however, I have to get some sleep so I can get up in the morning and sell some Avelox. Oh, wait, something else that dickhead got us into. Selling Avelox to ID's so that we build relationships for the CCR5. Wait a second, I only have 2 ID"S on my list. The rest are: 9 ENT's, 3 Pulmonologists and 16 PCP's. Anyone else have Avelox targets that are 500 miles away in the middle of no where? Yeah, he's a genius alright.

PS. The next head to get lopped off should be CR. I've got the champagne ready to go when that VM is sent out. Another know-nothing-prick.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 06:38 AM

The previous post is stated like someone who misses their Mommy. Didn't you get enough attention from her? Or was your brother / sister always better?

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 08:29 AM

To the previous poster crying bc they miss their mommy should remember that JR wasn't even around when our competitor launched. He inherited bad decisions and research FDA approval bungles in a time when we had to shut down everything we were doing.

Spare us your future analysis.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 09:33 AM

I can't believe he lasted this long! I hope CR goes with him..the mciromanaging prick

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 11:19 AM

WOW it seems like we have some Robinson defenders here, huh? I'd like to find out why. Specifically, what did he do in his tenure that made him such an effective leader of the division? Spare us the motivation part, that's BS. What actions did he take ensure the success of our products?

Also, I don't like to speak for others, however the poster (who obviously doesn't like JR...like most of us) is probably talking about what JR didn't do the entire time he was here. He sat back and accepted the fact that we were number two and accepted the fact that we were beaten.

I don't know if it was JR or CR who wrote the above posts about JR, however I will tell you that most, I mean a huge majority, don't feel sad to see this clown go.

I will reiterate one thing though. I hope that CR is next as well.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 11:21 AM

BTW, I know CR reads Cafe Pharma, so I hope he knows how most of us feel about him. Not that he's a bad guy, just an ineffective leader who doesn't get the things done that need to get done.

Sorry CR, those are the facts.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 11:39 AM

CR if you are reading this, start treating people like adults and respect them Expect them to do well, don't look to try and trip them up.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 04:10 PM

Hey, here's an idea. Pay you people. Let's either figure out what's going on with the massively screwed up reporting system and pay people for what they are doing or just pay all of us the same based on something

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 07:37 PM

CR is in love with Robinson

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 07:47 PM

I completely agree and if we were to get lucky enough to see CR go as well maybe we can have a party and invite the half of the sales force that has left in the last 2 years to the party also.

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 08:26 PM

Gives us in PC information on JR. When did he leave? Was he let go or did he leave on his own and if he left on his own where did he go? Thanks

Anonymous

12-06-2005, 09:57 PM

He announced yesterday. Will be gone by the end of the month. Says he left on his own, but who knows. Says he's going back to Chicago to "explore" a new opportunity.

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 12:29 AM

I can't believe it has taken this long! True, JR inherited many problems, yet while he was here I can't think of any real impact he had other than entertain us and remind us "It's all about me". Jim may have said all the right things to us and the customers, but personally, his follow-through and actions were lacking - empty promises. I wish JR and his family all the best.

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 11:16 AM

You guys can debate all you want but the facts are these.....JR is gone. Personally I say, good riddens.

Now on to CR. We can debate this for days. The only reason he is there is because of his relationship with JR. Isn't he the godfather of JR kid or the other way around? He's another one that changed his mind about finding out why so many of our territories are under-reporting. He doesn't care anymore, so I don't care about him. Let's through him up there and hang him.

Good riddens to him as well.

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 05:14 PM

JR and CG = market share, sales

Yeah right !!!!!!!!!

How come our KOLs hate JR and CG ?

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 05:51 PM

Glad to hear that changes are being made (I left a while ago). To this day I can't figure out why JR and CG lasted as long as they did. And was surprised to hear that the bumbling idiot CR got any upper management position at all (well lets face it we were all surprised when he made DM).

I check in here everyonce in a while to see if they are still around. So it was nice to finally see a post stating that one of them is gone.

CG needs to go next (he should have gone first). Maybe hep will finally get a true leader, and one that can make acutal decisions. Hell even 1 decision and sticking with it would be great!

Best of luck to those still in OBBU, when it was good it was good. Truly the best of the best when it came to the reps!

Best of luck everyone, hopefully you will get the leadership so desperately needed, and will be allowed to shine once again!

BTW, previous post was sort of right. Robinson wasn't there for the Pegasys launch, but was there for Roche's combo launch. (The one that mattered).

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 09:42 PM

Anyone ever have to ride along with CR?

Anonymous

12-07-2005, 10:09 PM

I did. In fact I took him around town to docs I knew would not be available to see us. We waited in several offices for about 30 minutes, just wasting time. It was a real drag, but it served a good purpose. I didn't want to sit with my doctors and go over meaningless bullshit. I purposely took him the long way, sitting in idle traffic speeding across town to the next unavailable doctor, moving at a record speed of 3 mph, divinely interrupted by heavenly red lights every 300 feet. It must have taken 45 minutes to get across town through the back route. Had I been a taxi driver, I'd a made a fortune. At the end of day I dropped him off early and exaggerated about the time it would take for him to get to the airport. I figured it never hurt anyone to get to the airport 3 hours early for a domestic flight. Afterall, he must have much more important business to get to - like a family who never sees him.

Anonymous

12-08-2005, 12:14 AM

So now you realized you are not calling on only ID's like Jimbo suggested, but ENT's and Pulmonologists. Next thing you know you will be making two trips to your storage to pickup some Avalox samples, because you can't fit blue bags, sharps and enough Avalox samples to pass around to your primary care physicians as well as your ent's, pulmo's, id's and gi's. Moreover, you'll be told that Avalox makes up 50% of your incentive payout and that your payout will not all be in cash, but gifts you'll be able to buy with paper money. Thanks Jimbo. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/confused.gif

Anonymous

12-08-2005, 12:40 AM

All JR did all day was bash the sales force and try to justify his miserable existence. The only reason he spent so much time on the data issues was that he hoped he could find a increase in the national mkt share and when that did not materialize he dropped the whole thing - there are still data issues but they don't care. I glad that one half of the "DYNAMIC DUO" is GONE and maybe we will get rid of CR and SL by XMAS. Hey JR is that "below the line" because it is all about you.

Anonymous

12-08-2005, 08:08 AM

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Anyone ever have to ride along with CR?

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Try having him for a DM!!! Utter hell. Pick up at 7:30 drop off after5:30. You cold never do anything right, then have him go over your gas receipts with a fine tooth comb to make sure you weren't getting gas close to home at 8:45 or adding up the miles if you got gas on a Sat to make sure you reported enough personal miles. Class A jerk.

Anonymous

12-08-2005, 09:43 AM

NO wonder CR ran off more than half his district. Lost a LOT of good people.

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 12:49 AM

Does anyone really believe that he left on his own accord for another position?

Good job Carrie. From all of us we give you a great big.....THANK YOU!!!!!!!

Now, put someone in there that will make a change. We're ready to go to battle, just give a us a leader that is worth it to follow

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 07:27 AM

Enen if Carrie did fire his ass, what does it say about her waiting 3 years too late and virtually losing the hep market?

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 09:40 AM

If JR truly IS heading to Chicago, does anyone know which company he's going to? Thanks.

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 10:08 AM

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Enen if Carrie did fire his ass, what does it say about her waiting 3 years too late and virtually losing the hep market?

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I totally agree with you. It should have been done a long time ago. However, let's be grateful for what has happened now and hope someone can come in and steer this ship in the right direction.

Do you think they'll go outside the division or pick someone like Pearson?

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 05:32 PM

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If JR truly IS heading to Chicago, does anyone know which company he's going to? Thanks.

[/ QUOTE ] Yeah, He is going to be an entrepreneur - Hot Dog Vending cart at Wrigley Field but I don't know if it is leased or bought outright.

Anonymous

12-09-2005, 11:00 PM

More resignations my friends. Even though JR has left his impact is still felt. JC in southern CA put in his resignation.

Here's a guy who has been with the company forever. Great rep and even a better guy. If things changed even a little I suspect he would have never looked elsewhere.

It just pisses me off we keep losing great people. Take care JC, we'll miss you

Anonymous

12-10-2005, 10:25 PM

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More resignations my friends. Even though JR has left his impact is still felt. JC in southern CA put in his resignation.

Here's a guy who has been with the company forever. Great rep and even a better guy. If things changed even a little I suspect he would have never looked elsewhere.

It just pisses me off we keep losing great people. Take care JC, we'll miss you

[/ QUOTE ] I heard about JC and what about RS in the bayarea he left the same day I heard - another great rep lost this year. How many good reps have left this year alone. Will I still recognize anyone at the meeting in January. See ya RS and good luck in the new job - I know you will kick ass.

Anonymous

12-11-2005, 01:17 PM

What about the So. klCA DM position. They can't find anyone to fill it, then when they do and send him to training, he quits before it's done. Guess he had a case of the smarts.

What to do, What to do?

Anonymous

12-12-2005, 09:22 PM

JR and CR are good people who you all where lucky to work for. If you dont like get your act together and leave. We will be a better company if you do. HD leaving was the sign for me. he is about as good as it gets as far as leadership and that was all I needed

Anonymous

12-12-2005, 09:29 PM

ahhhhh! a true brown noser!

Anonymous

12-13-2005, 07:16 AM

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JR and CR are good people who you all where lucky to work for. If you dont like get your act together and leave. We will be a better company if you do. HD leaving was the sign for me. he is about as good as it gets as far as leadership and that was all I needed

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"good people?" give me a break CR spent the last awards trip banging a PSR while his wife was home. When he isn't micromanaging people he is scouting for some strange.

Anonymous

12-14-2005, 05:50 PM

What is the word on CR after this? We all know the only reason he is a director is because of JR. Will he be leaving soon?

Anonymous

12-16-2005, 07:22 AM

one can only hope

Anonymous

12-16-2005, 07:28 PM

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What is the word on CR after this? We all know the only reason he is a director is because of JR. Will he be leaving soon?

[/ QUOTE ] Are you kidding! He will have Marguerite's job by 2007 the way things are going in this business unit.

Anonymous

12-17-2005, 11:12 AM

why is he a drunk too -or- just as stupid ?

Anonymous

12-21-2005, 09:32 PM

Lets just say Good By Boys - Let us see if Schering decides to bring in some Men and Women now - those of you - from the beautiful popular crowd will have to worry now - finally - its about business - what is best for the patients??? the doctors practice ??? - Who is CR going to godfather now??? Hope JR made it out with his marriage in tact???? Boys will be boys - but this is a billion dollar business gone to .....
all about ME????? Grow up - BOYS -- those of you who will miss them are only worried about having to prove you actually know what you are doing in PHARMA - not just another pretty face - there by looks - and not talent - Wink Wink Nod Nod finally gone