Micheal Moore just emailed me!

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I AM IN! CAPPIE STAR! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/grin.gif

[Anonymous]

What are you in? The nut house.

[Anonymous]

fantastic, what did you say & what did he say? what's next?

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I AM IN! CAPPIE STAR! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/grin.gif

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ASSCLOWN

[Anonymous]

he's inside someone old fart's bunghole with all the shit and undigested high-fat, cholesterol -laden garbage.

[Anonymous]

go get them. don't hold anything back. we're counting on you. give moore as much information & documentation as you can. we're finally going to get back at these crooks who have ruined & tortured thounds of us. good luck.

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go get them. don't hold anything back. we're counting on you. give moore as much information & documentation as you can. we're finally going to get back at these crooks who have ruined & tortured thounds of us. good luck.

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THANKS A LOT. I WILL. ON ONE HAND, THERE IS ONE RVP I HATE TO IMPLICATE BUT I HAVE TO. HE IS RETIRED, SO IT WILL NOT IMPACT HIM NEARLY AS MUCH. OTHERS ARE STILL AT GSK. (HOME OFFICE, VACCINE DIV. ET. AL. ) I HAVE LOTS. BELIEVE ME. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/grin.gif
CAPPY

[Anonymous]

i hope one of those RVP's is milt ambrose, the rat who's cheating his way to the top. when he worked HMO's, evrybody received you know what to get on formularies.

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i hope one of those RVP's is milt ambrose, the rat who's cheating his way to the top. when he worked HMO's, evrybody received you know what to get on formularies.

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NOPE. WORKED WITH MILT IN MANY CAPACITIES OVER THE YEARS, HOWEVER, HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE ON THE SPECIFIC MEETINGS I WANT TO DISCUSS WITH MICHAEL MOORE. I WILL BE TALKING ABOUT CHECKS WITH LOTS OF "COMMAS AND ZEROS" SENT FROM GSK TO A SMALL "BACKDOOR" (AS I CALL IT) COMPANY WHO "DISTRIBUTED PRODUCT INFORMATION" TO MANANGED CARE MEDICAL DIRECTORS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. YEA, IT WAS CERTAINLY A MASSIVE SUBSCRIBER LIST! HA!!!!!! LIKE THESE BUSY EXECUTIVES BOOTED UP AND READ NEW PRODUCT INFORMATION IN THEIR FREE TIME. WHAT A JOKE.
I NEED TO BOIL IT DOWN TO THE REAL SPECIFICS AND PEOPLE INVOLVED. THERE WILL BE A FUNNY ONE FOR YOU TO READ ABOUT IF IT MAKES THE FINAL "CUT." IT WILL BE A LUNCHEON AT RUTHS CHRIS (DON'T WANT TO NAME THE CITY OF COURSE) BUT A QUICK THUMBNAIL SKETCH IS THAT WE CUT CHECKS TO ANY "KEY DECISION MAKER" WHO WOULD SIT THERE AND STUFF A 30.00 STEAK IN THEIR PIE HOLE AND LOOK AT A LAPTOP PRESENTATION ABOUT OUR PRODUCTS THAT WERE ON THE "LAUNCHPAD" SO TO SPEAK. WELL, THIS PARTICULAR VICE PRESIDENT AND HIS "SIDEKICK" STARTED LAUGHING AT OUR PhD, WHO WAS THE "FACILTATOR" AND TOLD ME IN THE MENS ROOM TO "TELL THIS IDIOT SCHMUCK" TO TURN HIS LAPTOP OFF. I TOLD HIM TO AND HE DID! WE STILL PAID BOTH GUYS. THESE FACILITATORS WERE PhD'S WE HAD OUT IN COLLEGEVILLE? (IS THAT RIGHT?) ANYWAY, SOMEWHERE WHERE WE HAD RESEARCH FACILITIES IN PA. (NOT PHILLY) THESE GOOFBALLS CAME OUT WITH LAPTOPS AND POCKET PROTECTORS AND STARTED GOING OVER BENZENE RINGS AND CRAP. THIS ONE PARTICULAR VP ACTUALLY TOOK HIS LEFT HAND AND PUT THAT LITTLE "DEVIL SIGN" WITH 2 FINGERS BEHIND THE GUY'S HEAD WHILE HE WAS TALKING. SITTING RIGHT ACROSS FROM ME!

OH!!!!!! THE KICKER........MICHAEL WILL LOVE THIS ONE........AS I WAS WALKING BACK TO THE CUSTOMERS OFFICE, THIS VP HAD TO STOP IN MAILBOXES PLUS (DOWNTOWN AND ON THE WAY) TO PICK UP HIS CHECKS! HE WAS LAUGHING AND SHOWING ME THE RETURN ADDRESSES FROM 3 OTHER DRUG COMPANIES! THIS DUDE WAS RAKING IT IN! HE IS NOW A SENIOR VP WITH A VERY WELL-KNOWN BIOTECH PHARMA COMPANY. (WENT FROM MANAGED CARE BACK INTO INDUSTRY)

NEEDLESS TO SAY, IT SHOULD BE INTERESTING. THIS GUY WAS SCREWING HIS OWN COMPANY HAVING LUNCH WITH US EARNING MONEY FOR HIS OWN PRIVATELY OWNED "BACKDOOR BRIBE HOUSE"

THE DOUGH WE SHELLED TO HIM FOR LYMERIX BLEW MY MIND......LYMERIX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SWEAR TO GOD. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads/images//graemlins/cool.gif

OH, WE DID IT WITH HIM EARLIER ON FOR PAXIL TOO.

[Anonymous]

PS...........ONE MORE QUICKIE............SOME OF U IN THE FIELD MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THESE "OPERATIONS" AS I NOW CALL EM............

HOW BOUT THIS? I FLEW A GUY IN TO SPEAK AT A REGIONAL MEETING. HE TALKED TO THE REPS FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES ON LIKE "MANAGED CARE 101" BORING AS ALL HELL.........BUT GUESS WHAT? IT WASN'T TO "TEACH YOU GUYS" ABOUT MANAGED CARE..........THEY DIDN'T LEARN A THING FROM THE GOBBLDYGOOP HE SPEWED OUT.

BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GUESS WHAT??????????? HE GOT A VERY VERY NICE CHECK, ALL EXPENSES PAID, A DRIVER YES LIMO TO AND FROM HIS AIRPORT ETC..........I GOT HIS RECEIPTS YES MAILED DIRECTLY TO ME WHICH I SENT IN.............WHAT DID WE GET????????????????
WELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WE GOT WHAT IS TERMED AN "EARLY FORMULARY REVIEW"
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YA SEE, THE NEXT P&T MEETING WASN'T FOR 3 MONTHS AND WE WANTED OUR NEW PILL ON RIGHT AWAY.........THIS WAS A HUGE HUGE HUGE MG. CARE ORG..........WELL, THEY HAD A "VERY VERY SPECIAL P&T CONFERENCE CALL ON THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT IN PERSON ON THE PHONE" AND OUR NEW DRUG WAS ADDED IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT A NICE $250.00 AWARD FOR MY EFFORTS (AND A LITTLE CERTIFICATE TOO!!!!!!!!!)
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I TELL MY FAMILY AND FREINDS ABOUT THIS CRAP AND THEY ARE AMAZED....................

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PS...........ONE MORE QUICKIE............SOME OF U IN THE FIELD MAY NOT BE AWARE OF THESE "OPERATIONS" AS I NOW CALL EM............

HOW BOUT THIS? I FLEW A GUY IN TO SPEAK AT A REGIONAL MEETING. HE TALKED TO THE REPS FOR ABOUT 20 MINUTES ON LIKE "MANAGED CARE 101" BORING AS ALL HELL.........BUT GUESS WHAT? IT WASN'T TO "TEACH YOU GUYS" ABOUT MANAGED CARE..........THEY DIDN'T LEARN A THING FROM THE GOBBLDYGOOP HE SPEWED OUT.

BUT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GUESS WHAT??????????? HE GOT A VERY VERY NICE CHECK, ALL EXPENSES PAID, A DRIVER YES LIMO TO AND FROM HIS AIRPORT ETC..........I GOT HIS RECEIPTS YES MAILED DIRECTLY TO ME WHICH I SENT IN.............WHAT DID WE GET????????????????
WELL,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WE GOT WHAT IS TERMED AN "EARLY FORMULARY REVIEW"
\
YA SEE, THE NEXT P&T MEETING WASN'T FOR 3 MONTHS AND WE WANTED OUR NEW PILL ON RIGHT AWAY.........THIS WAS A HUGE HUGE HUGE MG. CARE ORG..........WELL, THEY HAD A "VERY VERY SPECIAL P&T CONFERENCE CALL ON THE PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT IN PERSON ON THE PHONE" AND OUR NEW DRUG WAS ADDED IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I GOT A NICE $250.00 AWARD FOR MY EFFORTS (AND A LITTLE CERTIFICATE TOO!!!!!!!!!)
HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I TELL MY FAMILY AND FREINDS ABOUT THIS CRAP AND THEY ARE AMAZED....................

[/ QUOTE ]HMO people did that & lots more all the time. pharmacists were brought in constantly to speak. most of them were terrible. this was one of dozens of methods to pay off directors of pharmacy, chairmans of P&T, members of P&T, doctors etc. etc. if you had anything to do with deciding the formulary, you were going to get greased. payola was the name of the game to get on formularies. the hmo or hospital was going to get greased too.