PDA

View Full Version : Encora - snake oil?


Anonymous
04-19-2006, 12:50 PM
"The results of the Heart Outcomes Prevention Evaluation (HOPE-2) study, presented at the American College of Cardiology 55th Annual Scientific Session, showed that combined daily administration of 2.5 mg of folic acid, 50 mg of vitamin B6, and 1 mg of vitamin B12 for 5 years had no beneficial effects on major vascular events in a high-risk vascular disease population."

And yet another resource says...

"How Does This Affect You?
Should you stop taking a daily multivitamin with folic acid, B6, and B12? If you're taking them exclusively for the purpose of lowering your risk of cardiovascular disease, this large study suggests the answer is yes. However, if you choose to continue taking supplements for other reasons, be sure your pill provides <u>no more than 100% of the RDA</u> The amounts given in HOPE 2 were substantially higher than the RDAs (e.g., <u>2,500 micrograms of folic acid vs. the RDA of 400 micrograms).</u> In addition, the NORVIT study detected a possible harmful effect of supplementation with the three B vitamins; their levels also exceeded the RDAs."

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 01:12 PM
Thank you i said this all along but this product has been shoved up our asses. I recently saw a Good housekeeping that basically said the same thing so plenty of info to show Encora is a load of crap!!!! We will not hear this they chose to cherry pick a limited amount of data that may be favorable and turn blind eye to the truth. I stopped selling it but my manager is pushing she is clueless about Encora. Please someone just pull this piece of crap fast it was a bad idea. I realize someone championed Encora but you need to be big and admit it is and always will be a bust!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 01:24 PM
Stop your bitching and go sell. Tell your offices whatever they need to hear in order to write it. Leave worrying about what is best for you to us.

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 03:05 PM
Sounds like fine KV management. Here is a shit sandwich sit there eat and say yummy. Thats the way lets keep beating a dead horse its fun and hell lets raise quotas and keep it high in bonus value. That makes no sense. Honestly other reps am i off base on Encora?

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 09:28 PM
I only know of about 3-6 reps that are even mentioning Encora anymore and it just so happens that they are the same 3-6 out of 90 that might get paid some bonus on this product for Q4. PAY US AND WE WILL SELL THIS SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IF YOU DON'T WE WON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Since the company has chosen to keep Encora's quota unreachable for Q3, Q4 and now Q1 of 07, we choose not to sell it. Treat your reps fairly and you will be amazed just how successful Encora can become. Continue to show no respect, keep giving out an unreachable quota, and it will contunue to be DEAD IN THE WATER. Winky it is your choice. Make the right decision.

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 09:49 PM
Hey didn't you hear the positive Voice Mail today? You now have a dream to dream! If you work hard you can be one of the select few to get promoted to Senior Rep. Go sell and make everyday count.

Double chest pump, piece to the sky! Out

Anonymous
04-19-2006, 10:50 PM
Encora is dead even if we are paid it is a bad product!!!!!!! I actually still try but this thing is a bad product and no pay plan will change that!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
04-20-2006, 02:48 PM
[ QUOTE ]
Hey didn't you hear the positive Voice Mail today? You now have a dream to dream! If you work hard you can be one of the select few to get promoted to Senior Rep. Go sell and make everyday count.

Double chest pump, piece to the sky! Out

[/ QUOTE ]


I can believe it has taken this long for someone to do this so anyways...

Double pump on your chest, shoot for the eye, load out!!!

Anonymous
04-20-2006, 05:04 PM
Maybe management will figure out why Encora sucks so bad. We all have given our opinions of why we are not selling this dog and the majority want to be paid.

Double pump up the ass, piece of every reps ass, Wink ! Wink ! MAYBE WINKER, WINKER would be more appropriate.

Anonymous
04-21-2006, 08:17 AM
[ QUOTE ]
"The results of the Heart Outcomes Prevention Evaluation (HOPE-2) study, presented at the American College of Cardiology 55th Annual Scientific Session, showed that combined daily administration of 2.5 mg of folic acid, 50 mg of vitamin B6, and 1 mg of vitamin B12 for 5 years had no beneficial effects on major vascular events in a high-risk vascular disease population."

And yet another resource says...

"How Does This Affect You?
Should you stop taking a daily multivitamin with folic acid, B6, and B12? If you're taking them exclusively for the purpose of lowering your risk of cardiovascular disease, this large study suggests the answer is yes. However, if you choose to continue taking supplements for other reasons, be sure your pill provides <u>no more than 100% of the RDA</u> The amounts given in HOPE 2 were substantially higher than the RDAs (e.g., <u>2,500 micrograms of folic acid vs. the RDA of 400 micrograms).</u> In addition, the NORVIT study detected a possible harmful effect of supplementation with the three B vitamins; their levels also exceeded the RDAs."

[/ QUOTE ]

I've been trying hard to sell Encora. How does Ther-rx expect me/us to sell Encora when studies are suggesting no benefit or potential harm? Overpriced, no demand for the product, high goals, no support for benefits and potential harm --- how do you guys in St. Louis sleep?

Anonymous
04-21-2006, 09:25 AM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
"The results of the Heart Outcomes Prevention Evaluation (HOPE-2) study, presented at the American College of Cardiology 55th Annual Scientific Session, showed that combined daily administration of 2.5 mg of folic acid, 50 mg of vitamin B6, and 1 mg of vitamin B12 for 5 years had no beneficial effects on major vascular events in a high-risk vascular disease population."

And yet another resource says...

"How Does This Affect You?
Should you stop taking a daily multivitamin with folic acid, B6, and B12? If you're taking them exclusively for the purpose of lowering your risk of cardiovascular disease, this large study suggests the answer is yes. However, if you choose to continue taking supplements for other reasons, be sure your pill provides <u>no more than 100% of the RDA</u> The amounts given in HOPE 2 were substantially higher than the RDAs (e.g., <u>2,500 micrograms of folic acid vs. the RDA of 400 micrograms).</u> In addition, the NORVIT study detected a possible harmful effect of supplementation with the three B vitamins; their levels also exceeded the RDAs."

[/ QUOTE ]

I've been trying hard to sell Encora. How does Ther-rx expect me/us to sell Encora when studies are suggesting no benefit or potential harm? Overpriced, no demand for the product, high goals, no support for benefits and potential harm --- how do you guys in St. Louis sleep?

[/ QUOTE ]

Vitamin supplement are a joke. Do they work? Its debateable-a woman with a good diet might be able to avoid them-or take EFA and folate, generically. Does anyone really believe the fairytale that Ethex vitamins are truly different that ours?

The beard sleeps in his treehouse on a bed made of money-he sleeps very very very well. This despite the fact that this company is rudderless, leadersless, and has no vision.