criminalizing sex outside of marriage

Discussion in 'Cafepharma Playground' started by jasmin, Mar 27, 2011 at 1:47 AM.

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  1. Rhiannon

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    The bible (talmud, koran, etc) offer many wonderful guidelines for living. But, in the end, religion should not be used as a hammer to beat the crap out of anyone who doesn't agree with your world view. Live your life and let God be the judge. After all, he's basing his decision on more than superficial information.

    God knows that I have done some unkind and meanspirited things in my life. He also knows that I've been kind-hearted, compassionate, and generous. He knows that my husband screams and yells and throws things when he's not taking his medication. He knows that I do all the housework, make most of the money, and maintain all of our relationships with friends and family. He knows I bust my ass volunteering, coaching the kids' teams, and bringing home enough that we never have to worry. He sees me reading quietly with my kids each night and making them pancakes every morning. He knows I do imperfect things also. But God is forgiving and I'm taking my chances.

    GG, I think you are spot on. Spice up your marriage in whatever way suits you both. I think the honesty and communication is fantastic. I'm jealous. Presumably, the third party will be a consenting adult. Mazel Tov. I think your attitude toward life is joyful and spirited. You've earned your happiness. Gather it up and have a blast.
     

  2. jasmin

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    Some of these cases of lying with a woman are supposedly discussing sex, not rape. The monetary differences I can easily dismiss as words written by men reflecting the times. Some of the comments about men ruling over women I see in a similar way, as women were considered property and were not allowed to own anything. Bringing forth children in sorrow? Perhaps pain but no sorrow! But you're discussing this with the wrong person - MFAS thinks women ARE inferior to men!
     
  3. Breakingnews

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    My one cat (all white with one green and one blue eye) in particular knows when I am sick or feeling down and will come to me and seemingly make everything OK just by being there. I think you know what I mean. "Tiny spiritual guardians" sums it up best.
     
  4. C'mon GG, you're playing fast and loose with the truth to begin with as I illustrated in red above with your last example. I could have done the same thing to others but in the interest of time, one more than proves my point.

    But back to the big picture. Everything I stated in my previous post stands.

    From Adam and Eve through to the New Testament women are respected and the ideal that God wants is one man, one woman lifetime monogamy. This in and of itself elevated the standard of women and is did away with the concept of a woman being one of many in a harem.

    The other component of the big picture is that the only reason you aren't wearing and burka and kept barefoot and pregnant and essentially treated as property is because the status of women has been raised tremendously in the Western world BECAUSE OF CHRISTIANITY. The very thing you seem to be railing against you should be expressing never-ending praise for because it is what enables you to live your life as you do today, while your Muslim sisters live as they do.

    As always, it's interesting.

    Oh, as for the animals. Shorty Cat is in the den. Shorty's the talkingest cat I've ever seen and he's been especially chatty tonight! Whiskers and Kat are outside cats and are curled up in their blankets on the backporch.
     
  5. SPN, you should know better. Women are inferior to men in some respects, just as men are inferior to women in some respects. Men and women are DIFFERENT and their is a difference in the roles that they play in some situation. Different means different, not inferior.

    Besides, you have proven to have a long habit of whining about the fact that the glass is 1% empty and 99% full when it comes to your gender. You should be eternally grateful to Biblical Christianity for your exalted status and your lifestyle today! But instead you whine and complain because the world is not perfect. It's not, it's fallen. And no, you still can't be a priest.:D
     
  6. jasmin

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    Nope, don't whine about my gender but do complain about some religions, not the bible and not all Christianity, and their dismissal and minimization of women. There is a big difference even though I know you aren't able to separate the two.
     
  7. Sometimes we think Shorty Cat is the devil cat! But we wouldn't take anything for him. He's a real piece of work and is an absolute glutton for attention. We can hardly take a step without him following us and that's very unusual for a cat.
     
  8. Didn't mean you whined about your gender, but about your gender's plight.

    And this is just the sort of whining I was talking about. Remember, your glass is 99% full. Thank God for giving us the Bible which made that possible!
     
  9. ~T~

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    When I whistle for him, he comes..all 1100 pounds of him. His black coat shines, thick black mane flows, and he's trotting...trotting till he sees I might be leaving and he picks up a canter. I say his name to greet him and he nickers. We walk into the barn, I put him in the crossties, and groom him. Chest to chest and standing under his head, I put my arms around his neck and hug him. He relaxes and rests his head on my shoulder. Such a cool feeling to be bonded with this large, majestic creature...my giant spiritual guardian. Note: it took me over a year to get him to come to my whistle lol and he gets paid off with carrots and treats before every ride but still...:p
     
  10. Vagitarian

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    Interesting how this thread has turned in to a discussion group on the Bible and animals.

    I think the Bible is an interesting collection of folk stories passed down through the years and now taken by some as fact. I simply don't believe it - any of it thank god.

    As far as animals go, my old Muttweiler is hanging on but failing every day.

    As far as sex goes, I'm gettin' my share and the honest, open reltionship I have going is very exciting. We're looking for a 3rd party too, she's more selective than I am (duhh!) but has very good taste in women so I happily await the day. Meanwhile, we try new things and keep it spiced up to the max. Sex is like food, some people like having the same thing all the time and some like variety, It's a free world and why in the fuck should this 'god' person everyone talks about, care what we do in the bedroom? Can someone give me one good reason why this entity gives a shit?

    After all, it's only sex.
     
  11. Ft Worth Fox

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    What would you say if your woman wanted the same thing? A 3 way with another guy. I told my husband he could have one with me and another woman if I could have one with him and another man. He got pissed.
     
  12. It's only sex when you're an animal. Though you may act like an animal, you are not. You have the capability and responsibility to aspire to something more noble. Too bad you can't see that!
     
  13. #173 thehairyfiddler, Apr 6, 2011 at 7:17 PM
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    Women are all ghastly creatures and must be genocided once and for all. Just the other day...on the elevator...it was just her and me. And I said..."can I smell your pussy?"

    And the beast turned and round housed me across the face.

    And I said..."well it must be your feet then."
     
  14. Breakingnews

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    More pontification from Ted Haggard.
     
  15. Scarlett

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    Bedroom, bathroom, counter, desk, floor, wall, hood of car, terrace, beach...let me count the ways and venues. lol
     
  16. Said the ignorant fool!:D
     
  17. Breakingnews

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    Infinite.

    ;)
     
  18. Vagitarian

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    I honestly don't know what I'd say. I didn't go out looking for a woman that now & then found the idea of a woman to be attractive. We were walking out of a nightclub one night and a particularly hot woman was sitting near the exit, my girfriend leaned over and whispered, "I wonder if she'd fuck us."

    I was shocked and turned on at the same time. Later we talked, she told me it was a fantasy of hers and if the situation were right she'd like to try it. She specifically said, "No other man, just a woman for us both." I've been supportive because that's the kind of guy I am.

    So it isn't something we 'do', it's something we got close to doing twice (private room things at a strip club) and something she wants to try. I hate to quote Charlie Sheen but - would I do it if the opportunity arises? "Duhhh!"