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Yeah, I do think they will pay it. You don't have to believe it, but I am going to make 100k+ to "drop samples." And then at least 10k+ per quarter. Thanks.

 

You are a fool. What kind of company tells reps this to get rid of them, you are telling me your moronic company doesn't have the guts to just tell someone thanks but no thanks, they are going to make up the salary structure. These DM's are making low end money, they don't have any exp in industry let alone in mgmt, so too the reps they will hire. This is entry level pharma at best, derm reps are a joke. If you want to make real money, you don't sell pills in derm, you sell a biologic in a hospital or infusion setting, or go device. What a complete joke this division is, ask the Celgene Reps in Onco, or your HR rep. You will be paid as such, a low level rep calling on derms making low level $. That is if you get hired.

 

I'm happy for you. 10k a quarter isn't a lot of money slappy. You obviously are from primary care. This launch will be fun to watch.

 

You think wrong. This division doesn't pay, look at the inexperience from DM down. And 10k/q sounds like PC to me. Good luck.

 

So true, why else hire recent college grads w no exp as managers? No way you get close to 100 in base, not in this sales force at least.

 

Alright, well then I'll be sure to report my 100k+ base when I get it offered to me in the next couple weeks.

 

So you haven't even been offered the job yet? Hahaha. I guarantee you don't get the job.

 

No one has been offered in Derm ya idiot...but, I guarantee i get one...thanks

 

you sound like a real badass... pussy boy

 

these days 10K per quarter is good money =-) I am experience rep oncology and considering this type opportunity. who cares ages of DM's? It is about chemistry and who gets who in this world and who knows who.

 

10k is chump change for real specialty.

 

Only a desperate fool would leave novo for this. Selling pills in derm is PC. Having to take feedback from a 25 yo who knew the right person will be icing on the cake. Good luck, you'll need it.

 

Leave onco for this. But Novo as well lol, this div is a social experiment.

 

So are you currently a primary care rep?

 

no, specialty.

 

What were you like in college?

What restaurants do you like to eat at?

 

too funny....sad to say.

 

1. Party animal
2. Stuckey's they make awesome gas station sandwiches

 

OK, we get it, the interviewing format is bizarre. If you do a good job of asking questions and figuring out what they want, you should be able to do well (this is sales, so you should be doing this kind of influencing/manipulating on a daily basis). Remember, everyone thought the STAR interview format sucked too. Just remember, the interview format is dictated to the managers, they are paid to follow it. It's not like the DMs are sitting around thinking up these questions.

 

Okay, perhaps the interview process is designed with some purpose in mind. But let me play devil's advocate here. You have an experienced rep who has been on many interviews in his career because he is a top performer with an excellent resume and therefore is frequently sought out by recruiters. Can you see how this interview process would be so obtuse to him that he might blow it simply because it is the opposite of what he has come to expect in the industry, and seems far too casual for a company as well respected as Celgene? He's not prepared for questions like "what did you do in high school" so he has to think about it for a moment and looks like an idiot. These reps they have hired, on the other hand, have not been out of high school that long and have very little else on their resumes, so translating their time on the lacrosse team into a skill that can be used in this job is second nature.

Experienced specialty reps are used to having frank discussions with their doctors, and they are also used to having friendly, casual discussions with their doctors. They have honed the skill of turning those casual discussions into a way to uncover the motivations and needs of their prescribers. BUT they know what their goals are in these discussions so it is easy to apply their skills. In the discussion with the Celgene manager, they are not expecting to have to treat the manager like a doctor who wants to talk about anything except why you are actually there. Frankly I think this COULD be a good method if the candidate had some clue beforehand of what to expect or if you gave candidates with good resumes a second chance at interviewing so they could demonstrate their skills. But you are letting a lot of the best candidates go because they are used to SELLING themselves to a manager in an interview and this interview process makes you feel obnoxious and pushy if you derail the manager and try to determine what she is looking for and sell her on you.