I'm Out

Discussion in 'Industry Veterans' started by Anonymous, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:05 AM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    Background:
    I'm out of the Industry (15+ yrs exp). and working in clinical management now in a healthcare setting.

    Recently, I was asked would I ever return to Pharma?
    I said (me) no, but for (you) it may be worth it.
    Why?
    Well, I know too much and can detail around an objection with fluidity-but that's noncompliant now. And, I was trained to handle objections, limited option close and challenge for the business. Now, the script does not allow that type of interaction. #icant

    but

    You can, bc you don't know any differently. You are 27/28 and can get in with a plan, pay of debt but don't stay over 5 years and you're good. ( I could tell that's why they were asking)

    ...yet I wondered if I would after 5-7 yrs out...

    The next day I was called by a former coworker looking to expand the team, I was pursued to apply and told I had the job if I want it bc the person remembered my ability to sell, niche, grow etc...I was honored. I was lured with the car, the expense account the 'salary' and bonus enticement again and I said no. By eve I rejected and I can tell they were pissed at me.

    My rational-I will NEVER forget that pharma can not handle my skills, does not want me to bring my intelligence to the sales call and furthermore the barrage of negativity from management and customers on a daily basis is not attractive. No thank you. Pass. If I came back to pharma, it would have to be at a higher leve where I can effect change and impact the quality of the rep and bring integrity back to the sales call. I can't be a part of what's going on now with scripted messaging and letters to HO to answer simple objections/questions.

    I felt so wonderful and free. I heard the final chain of the golden handcuffs drop to the ground. You don't have me anymore pharma industry. I will stay where I'm expected to bring my intelligence to work everyday, expand and grow. I will continue to challenge myself and grow. I will continue to educate myself and grow. I will continue to look back at that arrogant industry and wish it well. The key word is grow bc life is a journey. There is no growth in pharma, for me at least.

    I needed to vent. To management that still tries to belittle the reps left behind, reminding them that everyone in the world wants 'your' job,NO WE DON'T! You have now gone to the far end of the spectrum, quality people are not beating down the doors to get in. Those that get in usually just need a dag gone job. And, you need to think about that. And please don't drop that line when you are giving your pep rally speech about why you are the bomb diggity in the pharma world and all others are losers. That is 20 years played out.

    I heard a door shut, a key turn and I truly know I'm on a path moving forward and onward; and, it feels good to know I'm free from the mental drudgery of the pharma game.

    The best to ya,
    I'm out
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Even though it is an easy job, some people (like you) can't handle it. That is okay. Find something that is easier. The industry will be fine without you. Most of us are happy to have our jobs and there is a long line of people that want a pharma sales job.

    Try not to be angry and bitter like the others that couldn't handle to job and/ or got tossed out. It just makes you look like a miserable person.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Actually, my work now is more complex. It requires my creativity, ingenuity and science acumen, mixed with business skills. I could not use this skill set in pharma anymore. Only thing required was memorization of the script and looking for a Dr. to sign my computer.

    Why would you want to live life with something easy is the question. I'm glad you're fine with it. But there's more to life.

    Bitter? Naw, better.

    Signed,
    I'm out
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Yes, you are bitter. That is why you hang out on a pharma board and bash the industry. Any job for you is complex. Why don't you tell us again about how you think car sales is so great. That one was a hoot!
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Looks like we're all in great company! #carryon
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I don't think there are that many on this board that are as bitter and angry as you.
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    That's because you're cynical, narcissistic and myopic.
    I conquered, got my cheese, did well and moved ON.
    I come back to offer hope to those who WANT out.

    That would not be you.

    So you hold it down. We will continue to gladly leave those territory positions open to you while we move onward and out of that corrupted industry. Have at it. Go get it boy.....

    Good Selling!
    To those that want out, turn that frustration to determination get out! Life is TOO short to short change yourself and let jerks like this feed your insecurities.


    I'm off this board, it's obviously owned by the Pharma Gestapo who are payed to keep the minions fearful and in place. Mr. 'happy'- negative -Pharma- Rockstar with the awesome career, numbers and opportunities that will never get let go because HE IS A ROCKSTAR, feel free to respond to yourself, like you do in most of the posts on the Vet board.

    #Peaceout
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Me again. Yes, I know I said that I am off this board. I have said it many times before, but I keep coming back. Why???? Because i just can't get over the fact that I got tossed from this business. I need to come back here and make up stories about pharma and bash everyone in it because I got tossed. It is the only way I can deal with my mental issues.