I'm over 50, a woman, in mfg. IT. First, I was told, next year you get a promotion. Then, IT lost the technical career path. (HR still has one.) Time passes... about 5 years of highest performance ratings.. My group was told "we are now one big IT organization". We were told, "You are exempt, you do not have to re-apply for your jobs, you will not be redeployed." Then, all the jobs were filled at a higher position than ours, and we have NO WAY to get any career advancement. And we are low rungs on the Lilly IT totem pole. Now we are told, "Even though we are one big IT organization, you cannot get a promotion AT YOUR LOCATION. Not where you are sitting now, no matter how well you perform." I bring up the unfairness, over and over, even at lunch with the the new CIO. Feedback is received: " We want to know how everyone is feeling--- but NOT YOU. You are letting your attitude seep out. We can see it. Bad. Bad. Bad." Diversity is complete BULLSHIT at Lilly. Diversity is planning lunches with films on civil rights. It is not about the real world. or rewards for work that was done well. It is not about rewards for 50 year old women, when rewards could be going to young. attractive people, most importantly, whose attitudes NEVER seep into conversations. IT is complete bullshit at Lilly. "We are all one big IT organization". BULLSHIT.
I left Lilly at age 61. I hate to rain on your parade, but it only gets worse. Thoughout my whole Lilly career, HR / Management was very good at creating the false impression you wanted to hear. While not out and out lying, they chose their words so carefully, one naturally heard the message he/she wanted to hear. When I left, the only way to get a promotion was to job post for a position that was at the higher level. Oh, by the way, then the job postings said one could not move up by moving into that position. A no win situation all the way around. I wish you all the best. Change the things within your control to change and don't loose sleep over the things you cannot control. No one said life was fair. A long time ago a fellow Lilly employee had up on his partition several versions of Murphy's Law. One I particularly remember was, "The Golden Rule; the one who has the gold makes the rules."
A company with money can certainly be ruthless and unfair. Lilly pats themselves on the back all the time for fairness and diversity, and is still ruthless and unfair. Bullshit through and through.
Maybe being older than dirt has something it. This is not a rest home. Most of those men you are referring to are probably in their 30s
Isn't this nothing but discrimination? Assuming women over 50 are worthles / not working hard / ready for the rest home? And that is exactly my point: Lilly is riddled with that attitude. Men are all over the board in age. No such assumption. And if I'm in a rest home, it's the busiest rest home in America. It is the Times Square of nursing homes.
Reality check time. Let's see: "Top performer", Likely a P3, wanting to be a P4. Probably making $95-105K base plus a 9% bonus, with multiplier---$115K a year or so? 3 weeks vacation a year, plus a week off at Christmas. In IT, so counting snack breaks, coffee breaks, and the regular 90 min lunch: she's working 40 hours a week, tops. In Indianapolis, low cost of living, so that 115K goes pretty far. Won't quit because she can't make more anywhere else, whining because she can't make $130K a year. I feel for ya. So you know what my advice is? QUIT. Take a job at Apparatus, or Exec Target, or Interactive Intelligence and see what its like to actually work for a $115K a year paycheck. Somehow, given all the "bullshit", I think you're going to stick around. So in the mean time: STFU, cash your check, fill your cube, surf the web, enjoy that 90 min lunch, count down the 6 years or so until you have 80 points, and be grateful you have such a well paying job, low effort job.
You must be thinking of those global "top performers". Tromping all over Europe, giving roadshows. Drinking beer at the cafe. Sniffing the compost ---only Lilly employees! More BULLSHIT from another Lilly bullshit churner. I'd tell you to STFU, but where would your pals get their compost allocation?
If you wanna see what it's like to work for your pay, move out of the corporate center, charlie. Leave the international travel boondoggles, and come on out to 10 hour days with rare lunches, and do that for a decade with no recognition. You are undoubtedly a man, and a classic Lilly IT "leader": only YOUR contributions are valuable, everyone else just sucks the money out of Uncle Eli. I only wish the whole bunch of you management PRICKS would say what you really think on record, see post above, so the real people could sue your BULLSHIT asses.
Is that you, Mike Heim? We have missed you, Mister Congeniality. No one could build up pride and confidence in a workforce like you. How are things at Whirlpool? Smaller?
This is the real Lilly IT management. Diversity=bullshit. No boundaries on talent, eh? Except that age/sex combination. Women over 50 are worthless to Lilly IT management. They never get promotions because of the attitude displayed in this post, above.
Why do low level employees fight and hurt and hate each other so much? So what if the white woman, gay guy, fat lady, black guy, etc isn't the most qualified person. The reality is that when shit hits the fan, the hardest workers that are not at the top of the pyramid will be fired along with the slackers at the bottom. So just worry about yourself and stop giving other people a hard time for trying to get a job. There are people out here who will kill you for a dollar. The minorities trying to get a job are not the real threat. These companies will use and abuse anyone. So just learn how to work together and get all you can out of these jerks. The $100,000 a year you get is nothing to them. They get twice as much for a bonus.
