The pathologicals

Discussion in 'Indivior' started by anonymous, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:58 AM.

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  1. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    You'll know you're dealing with pathologicals, when suddenly your former decent manager starts treating you like shit. Psycho will be hovering nearby, just to enjoy the show. They get off on watching your shock and it feeds their need for power. These are often new hires or people very insecure and not going to move up on their own merit. Instead, they will rework the facts of something you said, did or completely fabricate, just to make it appear your aren't what manager thinks. Look out. You start getting shadowed someone, you've been made a target. You will have done nothing personal to them. In fact the more genuinely decent you've been, the more head case wants tire tracks down your back. They cannot fathom anyone like you. In their warped view, you are expendable and their first stepping stone to climbing up and over you. You only have to be different from them, a perceived threat and they will do whatever it takes to undermine you and sit back and enjoy the show. Lots of pathological in sales. If you have talent, ethics and are genuinely a good person, don't waste it here. Don't throw your pearls to swine. Asshole will get promoted and you will get tire marks.
     

  2. anonymous

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    Best advice on here. Don't forget managers part of the equation. If sales force being cut or expanded and he is unsure of himself, he'll use you, too. If his team has mostly been fired or walked, he's going to exploit any remote chance to save his own ass. Forget what you did for him. He will. At first drop of dirt by liar new hire and you'll be put in the cross hairs. Yes, you will be annihilated for no other reason than that the two made a pact, trumped up some dirt and shoved you down a hole. Often, manager has screwed up and off so long, he'll hire a friend he knows will kiss ass and you my friend are their scapegoat. They like to drink beer over your corpse and laugh how they shit you right out of your job. Losers fly together.
     
  3. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    God. Damn what a bunch of vultures. I've seen this scenario play out way too much. Pisses me off, because these bastards know it's easier for you to quit. Don't fall for it. Give em hell back and blow it back on their asses. Give em hell, the pussys.
     
  4. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    how totally weird you all are. Anonymous persons
     
  5. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    So weird. I don't get it
     
  6. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Right clown, because its your behavior that's being described. Only thing weird here, is you, asshole. Now, go crawl back in your sewer.
     
  7. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    How in the hell some of you were hired is perplexing at best
     
  8. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    The fact that some if you were even gired, let alone promoted is beyond disturbing. It's disgusting. The trouble with lying is that it destroys relationships. It's also a symptom of an even bigger problem, a personality disorder, such as sociopath or narcissism. Pathologic liars lie even when there is no reason to do so. It feels good and safe to them and it's second nature. Lying can become an addiction, like drugs or sex or gambling. It gives comfort. Problem is, no one will respect you or want to be around you. They may just quit. After you have been baited out with one false promise after another or used to help another avoid their responsibilities, you soon start thinking of ways to either hit back and/or get away, as in quitting your job.
     
  9. anonymous

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    You must be referring to Toronto Canada in April ! That is weird
     
  10. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    I'm with u. Let's go to Toronto during their rain season and it's cold as s..t!! Horrible. hawaii one year and now a place that has zero to do. People from Toronto don't want to go to Toronto. Did they hear the groan from the room when they unveiled this pick. It was like all the wind got sucked out of the room. We are going to...............the last place anyone would select. Now let's make believe anyone could possibly like it. r*****s
     
  11. anonymous

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    If nuts could fly, this place would be an airport. Head on off to Toronto, nut jobs. Meanwhile, we'll get on with the discussion at hand. Mgmt here, has always been a joke. Trouble is, it's not the funny kind. No. It's the full of hot air, windbags, that spew b.s. about trust, loyalty and culture fit. You don't want to fit in here. In fact , run. Run before you start to fit in.
     
  12. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    That narrows anonymous down to a Brit.
     
  13. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Rubbish
     
  14. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Rubbish indeed. Poster with narrow mind and agenda. No, the nuts are home grown and this side of pond.
     
  15. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    I think talking about culture is nuts for sure. Our culture sucks and is getting progressively worse. U can tell no one likes each other in corporate at the meetings. It's hilarious to watch and made worse because those are the same fools on stage and in meetings trying to convince u the culture here is awesome. They are right. We are different than Big pharma but different is a long way from better. I would say worse in that the gossip here is worse and back stabbing way worse. That's what the brits don't get or just don't care about. They make our culture and have made it awful by allowing those in high positions to be the biggest problems and do nothing about it. No one trusts corporate because they are solely in it for themselves and it's plain as day and the upper guys across the pond could care less. It's very hypocritical and just like any other pharma company.
     
  16. anonymous

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    Some of these posts are bizarrely incoherent, especially given the time of day (afternoon?) posted. Long story short, I concur with someone above that the dysfunction is home-grown. With AN gone, can't exactly blame the Brits for an increasingly-septic culture. "Fish stinks from the head," as the saying goes, and the "head" is none other than a petty, immature and very misogynistic ML. He's the "Trump of Pharmaceuticals" - lol. If you aren't willing to perpetually genuflect, kiss ass and/or stifle every common-sense inkling you've ever had, watch your back. Dude knows how to hold a grudge.
     
  17. anonymous

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    To above posters dissing Toronto- WTF?!? Entitled??? You could be having your national meeting at the Dallas airport Marriott.
    And to the person who said, "there's nothing to do"? Do some research before you come on here saying stupid sh**. A national mtg is held so that the company can deliver information to the sales force. That can be done in any hotel ballroom in any location. Do you know how lucky you are to work for a company that actually cares about you enjoying yourself at a meeting? A company that puts the amount of time & energy & research into scouting locations and planning paid for activities for the free day?!? I can't take it man. Please call in sick for the Toronto meeting. We don't need your entitled, complaining, negative attitude showing up & bringing the rest of us down.
     
  18. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    amen!!!!
     
  19. anonymous

    anonymous Guest

    Probably the same people that bitched about the long flights to Hawaii! Fucking Hawaii on the company dime, and people complained. Go work for some other company that holds every meeting in Chicago or St. Louis. They're out there.
     
  20. anonymous

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    Now about the mtg. Yeah, I agree with above posts. As for a certain "good" friend, I hear you've been throwing shade behind my back. Don't come smiling up in my face, with that blade dripping. I know your kind, all sweet and innocent to manager boy and dishing dirt to get in good. Newsflash! Now that your secrets out, whatcha gonnna do when you see me? Now I know why you're his favorite suck up.