MZ

Let's be real here. This company would be nowhere without off label usage of its products.

 

Let's be real here. This company would be nowhere without off label usage of its products.

 

So true. A large percentage of IVIG use is off label, and most of my Alphanate business comes from a few patients undergoing immune tolerance therapy.

 

So out of the 500,000 test kits returned so far only about 4000 were either SZ or ZZ (which fits the label) but the company wants about 1000 new patients started a year. Hmmm. Oh yeah but its the docs "decision" Wink wink

 

It's scary. I need this job, but I'm beginning to wonder if this is a major problem that is only getting bigger. The solution is not pretty and head count would take a major hit. Any clue as to what percentage of starts are outside guidelines? Maybe the situation is being overblown? Hope so.

 

Oh no Make no mistake it's not being overblown. Management knows but just doesn't address it because the company wants the revenue. I bet Only 1 in 6 starts at best meets label and that's probably being conservative. Reps and company are more concerned about money than patient's health. Lotta people on therapy that don't need to be. Only get worse before it gets better if it ever does.

 

Dear Chicken Little, I don't see in the indication that patients must be ZZ, nor do I see a certain level the patient must be under.
I think I'm just a great rep, and you're not. Wah, Wah, Wah.

 

does grifols do random drug. screening?

 

Heck some of my starts didn't even have emphysema and most probably have better lung function than I do. If docs find a "Z" they're getting referred for therapy.

 

Pure genius. Short sighted thinking is going to bring major problems. That person is probably applying for jobs elsewhere, leaving the rest of us to pay the consequences. Most of us who are here for the long haul: say good bye, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

 

Am I the only one who feels as if we are in the middle of the ocean and taking on water? I'm thinking about jumping in the lifeboat.

 

This post nailed it. The numbers are inflated based on label. Big trouble, big, big, trouble.

 

This whole mess was inevitable once they started selling to Primary Care.

 

Yup. Primary care doc finds a mz, rep says, "hey, you found a patient!!" lets get the paperwork in, no need to send to a PULM. (Rep knows damn well the PULM won't start the patient because 99% of mz do not meet criteria.) Repeat, repeat, repeat.........

 

You are working for Grifols. What do you expect? Find a real company, when we were Talecris we were real. Now you are not even a bad batch of wine. Sorry but it is so hugely and bigly true!

 

Hate to break it to you, but the Talecris mentality that was infused into Grifols was the beginning of the end for morality. Old Grifols wouldn't have pulled this sh**.

 

Talecris had bogus referrals, Grifols has bogus starts. Sorry that makes both wrong; you can't do the right thing the wrong way. Management can't stop it or the numbers would crash, heads would roll; just drink the koolaid and smile.

 

Hmmmm, so no Linhaliq, not now, probably not ever. We have tiny territories, and goals for territories, twice the size. We are gonna be bombarded with subliminal messages, MS, and MZ. Money, money money.

 

Ha, Ha, here is the script:

We know you can make a lot of CASH putting heterozygotes on therapy, but don't do that. No, it's wrong to make lots of MONEY that way. It would be easy to talk to prescribers into writing "off label" and you could earn BOAT LOADS OF CASH, but its not right. Lets make it clear, don't take the EASY way out and get A LOT OF MONEY.
We will see all of you losers tonight when we honor the reps WHO MADE A LOT OF MONEY, and we are going to send them on a wonderful trip. These are the REAL WINNERS, wink , wink, nod, nod.

 

Six weeks into the new year and someone has already hit their goal!?! How in the hell can upper management continue to allow this BS to go on? FDA/DOJ are you taking notice?