The mistake of Cycloset

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  1. anonymous

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    This is a huge time waster and mistake. Feel horrible for anyone who depends on Cycloset success or growth in their career. With he continued amazing therapies and advances in diabetes pharmacology—the joke of Cycloset is a laugher. Lucinda uses this job as a place holder as they furiously look for another job and Polaris just blows it off out of embarrassment.
    Wake up! No provider will ever use this for diabetes. No provider will add multiple pills onto an already bag full of medications for a barely measurable response. Compliance and adherence rule the day with this disease and Cycloset is not a legit option. We are laughed at and felt sorry for when bringing this up. Quit wasting time and money. Horrible product and outcomes! And yes Sales Training, A1C does matter... wake up! Ever heard of quality measures?
     

  2. anonymous

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    Polaris here ...

    I don't was my time of that DOG drug. My DSM gives me zero shit about it. The forced (cycloset) target list is terrible too.

    My boss and I are hoping it will go away
     
  3. anonymous

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    Cycloset can help patients lower their A1c and it appears to have some CV protective qualities. Trouble is you need to have perfectly compliant and well educated patients willing to work with their doctor to improve their health in order for Cycloset to work. Spoiler alert; patients with type 2 diabetes are neither compliant or well educated. If they were, they would have listened to their doctors, lost weight, started an exercise regimen and changed their diet 10 years before they were diagnosed with the disease. They didn’t and now they have an acquired lifestyle disease that is avoidable. Cycloset is not a good option.
     
  4. anonymous

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    no. Diabetes is not simply a lifestyle disease. Yes, poor diet leans an individual towards hyperglycemia but research also shows the huge T1 & T2 genetic contributions towards getting the disease. Look at the Asian countries where they fall in normal BMI ranges yet have an epdemic of diabetes. Same can be true of non Caucasian racesacross the Globe Environment also pays a role! And then there is our American diet where many struggle to find healthy food. You yourself try eating healthy riding down any Main Street in America. Many food manufactures purposely put addictive preservatives into food to create over eating and addictions...
    Not just will power... if you look behind the curtain you would be shocked
    Cycloset barely lowers A1C which we were told “is not that important”. What????
    We were also told Cycloset is the only therapy to target the brain... So not true!!! Also, many therapies have CV data including outcomes. Parkinson’s great.... Diabetes... NO
    No legit MD will use this.... losing money and respect.
     
  5. anonymous

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    The World Health Organization disagrees with you.

    The major environmental risk factors for T2D are obesity (> 120% ideal body weight or a body mass index > 30 k/m2) and a sedentary lifestyle (van Dam, 2003; Shaw and Chisholm, 2003). Thus, the tremendous increase in the rates of T2D in recent years has been attributed, primarily, to the dramatic rise in obesity worldwide (Zimmet et al., 2001). It has been estimated that approximately 80% of all new T2D cases are due to obesity (Lean, 2000). This is true for adults and children. In the Pima Indians, 85% of the T2D children were either overweight or obese (Fagot-Campagna et al., 2000). Another study in the US reported that IGT was detected in 25% of obese children age 4-10 years, and in 21% of obese adolescents (Sinha et al., 2002). Undiagnosed T2D was detected in 4% of the adolescents.

    In addition to general obesity, the distribution of body fat, estimated by the ratio of waist-to-hip circumference (WHR), also has an impact on T2D risk. WHR is a reflection of abdominal (central) obesity, which is more strongly associated with T2D than the standard measures of obesity, such as those based on body mass index.

    The other major T2D risk factor is physical inactivity. In addition to controlling weight, exercise improves glucose and lipid metabolism, which decreases T2D risk. Physical activity, such as daily walking or cycling for more than 30 minutes, has been shown to significantly reduce the risk of T2D (Hu et al., 2003). Physical activity has also been inversely related to body mass index and IGT. Recently, intervention studies in China (Pan et al., 1997), Finland (Tuomilehto J et al., 2001) and the US (Diabetes Prevention Program Study Group, 2002) have shown that lifestyle interventions targeting diet and exercise decreased the risk of progression from IGT to T2D by approximately 60% . In contrast, oral hypoglycemic medication only reduced the risk of progression by about 30%.


    But you are totally correct that the food industry is a major contributor to the problem by sneaking addictive substances and high fructose corn syrup into everything they possible can. A lot of what people think is healthy is making them fatter and sicker every day.
     
  6. anonymous

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    We aren’t in Asia. I saw a 300++ Ib 20 year old female eating McDonald’s in an endo’s waiting room. These people know better but don’t care.

    End of story!
     
  7. anonymous

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    very naiive corporate poster. The WHO only will publish and advocate what can be “seemingly” controlled (Diet & Excercise)
    Ask Ralph Defronzo what the true etiology is? I will help you. there are hundreds of meta-analysis and research studies/efforts that span 10 plus years looking at root cause of chronic hyperglycemia. I could cite a recent in the Journal Medical Geneitcs (Peason, wijmenga, Haeften) where it is clear “diabetes is a multi factorial genetic syndrome which is determined by several different genes and environmental factors”. Please read so you are aware. Hey corporate poster, yes bad diet brings out acute high blood sugar but Not the root of diabetes! Read the abstract along with thousands of thought leaders who truly know...
    My father in law eats horrific fast food nearly every meal and has fantastic FPG and PPG. He is 74 years old. I would shame you for your ignorance but your role is to add to the deception and lack of knowledge as well to help you sell your meaningless medication that is laughed at.
    Do your homework with objectivity and realize that many reps came from and worked in diabetes. We aren’t just playing and blind to truth! Don’t be a fool
     
  8. anonymous

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    It's a DOG DRUG and a waste of time!
     
  9. anonymous

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    Nice retort dopey. Facts is facts and the genetic research you cite only points to the genetic factors that drive certain individual behavior to eat unhealthy foods, remain inactive and become obese. Thus causing insulin resistance and Type 2 diabetes.
     
  10. anonymous

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    I added a couple of grand to my Q4 bonus- no complaints here.
     
  11. anonymous

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    You have no clue corporate head... Stick to GI where you belong. It would take too much time to bring you to the library of proof and documented research as to the etiology of diabetes. What’s concerning is this is not new research yet you are ignorant and blind to read and accept. Wonder if your family has a history of diabetes? if so, chances are you will too over time when genetic cursors catch up....

    You will remember my posts then... until then live in your stupid bubble
     
  12. anonymous

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    Salix is and always has been a GI company so I suppose I will stick with GI. Here is what I know. Cycloset is a waste of time and resources. An afterthought. And our customers hate it as much as patients do. Pay attention next time you talk to an endocrinologist.

    You’ve already spent too much time proving you are the master of diabetes. Better get your shit together and sell the GI products in your bag.
     
  13. anonymous

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    funny thread. No one is selling this joke except the south specialty Diabetes team. Just wait it out till the negative growth convinces the idiots in NJ this is a waste of time. Back to GI meds
     
  14. anonymous

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    Why only in the south? There are diabetics all over the country