JOB HUNTERS BEWARE

At this point in time there are so many reasons why not to be in Pharma they out weight the benefit by far. The above post is good and accurate. Along w/ the above comments a person needs to know a few more reasons why the job is not a satisfying career anymore, it's barely a job. Even if you decide to take the job within the first month of being in the field you will find out that access into MDs office is incredibly limited. However your company will require you to see X amount of MDs a day. It's nearly impossible to achieve the matrix that are being asked in 2018 w/o compromising your integrity and lying several times a day when entering calls. My guess in 2018 if a person makes 8 office stops a day they are probably only able to see 2-3 actual MDs a day. Which means a Rep would have to make 15-20 stops a day to see a Matrix of 7-8 Face to Face conversations a day. It's impossible to achieve w/o fudging calls daily. Not to mention there are usually only 100-125 Mds on any Reps required target list. Next, the iPad software Veeva call entry system is sku'd to benefit the Company NOT the Rep, it's at the heart of the problem. Most companies require only MD conversations are legitimate calls. The Company will require you to do a total office call however because of limited access and MDs that you will not be able to ever see the Company will not give you daily call credit for stopping at your targeted listed office, talking to appropriate RNs but never seeing the MD, that according to most Companies is NOT a legitimate recordable call. So, what happens is the Rep gets in the unfortunate habit of lying on the call. Who in their right mind would spent 20-40 minutes doing your job in an office (Waiting, talking to RN's, scheduling lunches) and not want credit for your time? The Companies know that this is going on and refuse to correct the system, instead they use the system against the Representative at a later time when it's time for downsizing, and firing the representative.

Next up if you take the job know that you probably got the job because you are perceived to be an "easy" target to "coach" w/ limited if any pushback from you. You did not get the job because you were the best fit for the company but the best fit chosen by the DM so that they can "coach" / "push you around" at their will. You will likely end up w/ a 30/early 40 something DM that really dosen't want to better the business but "coach" a team of 10 individuals. Most of these managers have less than 5 years of experience in the field, little if any life experiences and limited people experience. Most will use "High School" sports analogies to relate to their teams.

Finally in 2018 the Pharma business is not SALES at all. You do not sell anything day to day. The numbers lag 2-3 months which means you will not even know whats going on in the territory for months and about the only thing you are talking about to an MD is suggestions to try. Week after week, Month after month the same message, the same words. You are more of an mobile Advertisement / PRepresentive. A better representation of the job is Customer Service Representative. Since CSR falls under Marketing in a Company somehow the title is still called SALES, but the job is the furthest thing from SALES. In most cases even if you get to see an MD you will have 30 seconds to 1 minute to regurgitate a page or two from the same message you gave him last time. This happens month in and month out. Taking lunch to 20 hungry staff members will buy you usually and extra 5 minutes w/ the targeted MD but the story and message dosen't change and you will not know the outcome of you 5 minute conversation for months and even then the numbers are algorithms of office writing habits since not every pharmacy where the general public gets their drugs from even report their script data. It's all hypothetical.

 

I wanted to thank u. I got an email from them (Lynx Therapeutics) signed by HR but as Lynx Healthcare and was about to answer their 12 question survey. Can’t believe this! Thanks a lot for your post.

 

I got email as well and filled it out. They actually set up a webinar interview for 30 minutes. Thinking I might go on there and mess with them or try to get some names of people so we can figure out who these guys really are. Thanks for the heads up!

 

Did you end up doing the webinar interview?? Interested to see how it went if so. I also got this email, and filled it out and was told about an interview...

 

I recently received the email as well. I filled out the questionnaire and was told to get my CNPR cert then they will line up some interviews for me. I replied asking what "some interviews" means? Is the position for Lynx or for other pharma companies....waiting for a response now

 

Also, received an email from Lynx with a questionnaire. Although, I need a job, I am going to for-go the questionnaire and not respond to this email. I believe the previous threads, regarding Lynx, as a hoax, is true. So, thank you everyone for making an effort to warn us. I don't have time to waste on bullshit emails like this. Fake news! Moving on...

 

Full Circle Health aka Circle Health Care aka Lynx Pharmaceuticals is also advertising on Zip Recruiter as Biotech PharmaC.

 

Beware working for companies hiring young leadership to manage reps. Age is and experience is important. Last week landed interview and met manager that looked like a college graduate choosing a public and conservative environment for interview spot and so called manager talks aloud a rather quiet environment and asking what salary requirements etc. it was quite embarrassing and the newbie manager had no idea it was not exactly appropriate to ask among 40 people around us listening. Showed the maturity. None. I had to laugh leaving interview.

 

I got an email from Mr. L. Girardello today asking me to answer 4 questions and to provide my phone number to set up an interview. It's annoying that the information they asked me to send them is on my resume and the position they say they have is ENTRY LEVEL and I have been in medical sales for 13 years. If I really had applied recently to a job posting of theirs, they would have the information.

SO what is their deal? Are they really hiring for a pharmaceutical company?

 

This is the most accurate description of what pharma sales is like that I have ever seen. Dead-on description. I have come to the conclusion that you have to be a psychopath/sociopath to succeed in this job. And all the managers, or 95% of them, fit that description. A normal, hardworking, nice person can't make it in this industry. You will get pushed out, it's that simple

 

I also received an unsolicited e-mail from Mr. L. Girardello. I didn’t recall having applied to Full Circle Health-especially for an entry level position. One of the questions posed stood out to me- “Where did you complete your entry level Pharma training?” Ive done a tiny bit of reasearch. From what I gather, this is an attempt to sell pharmaceutical sales training, not an actual sales position. Like several others on different threads related to Full Circle HeLth, DO NOT REPLY! Best wishes!

 

Well it looks like they are at it again! I got an email from a Samuel Silva. I tried to find him on LinkedIn but there was no match. They wanted a series of 10 questions filled out before they would decide to schedule me an interview. I simply replied that they are a scam and I will not be moving forward with the process. The company they are posing to be now is https://lynxpharmalabs.com/

Don’t fall for it!

 

Got a call from Yolanda Molina from San Antonio, Texas. She said she was recruiting for Mission Pharmacal.
She called from a personal cell. She said she has no Linked In. She said she has no email. BEWARE.

 

I agree I've got 16 Years experience and nobody wants to hire me. I was always in the top 25% and I've never had a unsatisfactory review in my career. I rarely get interest in my applications. Many have told me that I was over paid in the industry, I guess that's what you get for doing a good job. Stay away from pharma if your looking for stability, you won't find it anywhere in this industry. I told the recruiter at circle health there was no way I would pay for an entry level course I could teach myself

 

Ugh....I actually am entry level and was trying to break into Pharma sales. I applied to a company through Indeed (RepPros BioPharma). I never received a response from RepPros, but have received emails from Samuel Silva at Lynx who told me I had to complete training through CNPR. I also just received a message from Mr. L Girardello - Full Circle Health.

I now receive unsolicited emails from CNPR about their training and all of the positions available once I complete the training. Of course just to take the test is $150 and for the entire package it is $268. I reached out to my friends in pharmaceutical sales and none of them had heard of CNPR certification. Unfortunately there are so many scams while job hunting.

 

Sam Silva & LG Girardo are still sending out messages from the companies mentioned!!