Do I want to work here?

I am considering a switch from big pharmaceutical, is this the move to make? What’s the base and a realistic bonus? Have they gone to a car or still just mileage reimbursement? How’s the hotel situation for meetings? Own room or sharing?

 

Are you kidding, this is big pharma - it’s Actavis, I mean Forest. Every division is different - what a joke

 

Let me answer a question with a question, do you enjoy never feeling secure about your job? Then come aboard, there’s bound to be a space available soon enough as soon as some lucky kid catches a lifeboat to the island of freedom called “anywhere but here”

 

My experience is blatant age discrimination!!

 

I agree - their recruiter Brian Storrer often tells candidates that they are seeking someone in their 20's -
just 2-3 years out of college. Reps over 40 will be given no consideration.
Of course, this is a violation of federal law...

 

Because they want to pay the lowest base possible and expect you to do "anything" wink wink to sell

 

What is the background check like? Do they call prior employers and verify specific dates? Do they have a drug test that you need to take?

 

Company car or allowance?

 

You have choice of either.

But seriously—this place is a house of cards and if your credibility and personal ethics are of any value to you, think twice before leaving your current role. Ask about turnover in your division (they will probably lie, but in at least one brand it’s around 40%).

 

At least the company is flexible enough to offer an option.

Thank you for your authenticity.

So get this….outside of our industry, there is a company that is a top 100 xyz awesome place to work; kind colleagues, benefits galore, management genuinely asks what can we do better then schedules a meeting next day to correct xyz inefficient workaround for salesforce input…they are still abusing their federal contract. Repetitive meetings that could be condensed, too much c-suite, metrics to the point you can’t be pulled away to the bathroom if working remotely that day…

I’ll still take a company like Natera with a good base/enough resources to conduct business. I think I’ve learned how to just play the game and keep my mouth shut.

I’ve been through an investigation before, but it was not focused on my accounts bc no compliance issues.

What exactly is the micromanagement ppl experience?

 

It honestly depends… every division is so different and every manager is different. In my opinion, the culture is crappy because the company turns sales reps against each other to chase the bread. Corporate sales has this grey area where people find wiggle room but anything goes here. Some reps love it because they can actually get away with murder lol. A lot of reps hate life but stay because it’s easy to get comfortable and complacent when they give you “just enough” to shut up. I personally don’t think there are good people at the top level positions running the show but I don’t interact with them. They do mini bonus spiff periods but honestly, it’s probably the most micromanaged company I’ve worked at in corporate America. You have to diary and document your life on SF.com / G-sheets so when you do leave or get let go they can trace back all of your call notes. I would say the average rep lasts 1-2 years max until they’ve had enough. The ones that have stayed years have deep ties to people at the top and I’ve heard it’s scandalous for most. Not a career. Just work here if you don’t have diagnostic experience and need to boost your resume because there are more opportunities after 1 year.

 

My bud works for the NIH and sees nepotism override program selection all the time.

Sheesh whens the diary due to submit to our parents? Our friends in some WFH industry are req to keep a diary too along with the nightmare of MS teams showing if you’ve been away from your desk chain for 3+ minutes. Makes me feel like this is the new norm since 2020.

My last non compete finally expired at a litigious company.

I don’t like long tenures at the same company bc of pay stagnation despite growing well, so if they're ok with my shorter tenures I’m ok with 1-2 years.
Thanks again for your honesty!

 

Which opening are you going for? Who is the hiring manager? There are some postings that might be worth it but some you should run for the hills and never look back. If you don’t feel comfortable sharing which listing you’re going for on this board I strongly encourage you call people on the team and in the state to ask why the opening is available…. There’s a reason for a few listed on LinkedIn and trust me you don’t want to pick that mess up

 

Its not WH; you’re right I’ve learned my lesson not to just take jobs that pay well and will do my due diligence reaching out to other reps. the territory has mostly medicaid/medicare/private and some cash, lots of land with a decent hospitals/priv practice ratio. territory has no high turnover

I have had half bad managers/upper management and half managers I look forward to working with and growing.

At the end of the day bad managers are keeping you down on purpose with excessive 1:1 or micromanagement because they don’t want you taking their job.

I’m also concerned about which division has reps pinned against each other because I’ve only worked at organizations where we all help each other even though we’re competing. i.e., I mentored 2 people when they were newer than me to the industry and one lady just made p club this year, even though she took all my accts from the dissolved company bc I didnt want to relo. the other one started pumping out similar numbers than me so I competed against my own day to day with less focus on retention->more time growing fresh accts to keep up. I think it produces more revenue this way for everyone??

 

Sounds like you have a good gauge and can maneuver. You mentioned management experience. If you’re going for that role.. DO IT. If you’re going for a COS, CFS, OHS that’s where the homework comes into play. Medicaid can be great depending on the location and call point. Also recommend getting the comp plan docusign reviewed thoroughly because that is what screwed people over. The base + OTE is listed first and thought “all good” keep reading for any contingency clauses. I’d say that’s the biggest weakness at least in our role.. comp always gets messed with some make bank others do not and it doesn’t have to do with work ethic I’ll tell ya that much. If the base is $145+ do it at least my two sense. Don’t let them tell you they’re offering you the higher end of the range and find out later that wasn’t the case after you’ve signed.

 

I work here and wish I didn't. Just waiting for the first decent outside opportunity. In the meantime, just dealing with the worst leadership biopharma has to offer. Applicant be warned.

 

Yup!

 

Natera will eventually go down for billing fraud or for laboratory failures. Give it time.

 

Absolutely NO!

Terrible management, horrible culture. Many reps consulting attorneys regarding bonuses being cut so Natera can make ends meet. You will be treated like human garbage.

 

If you want to work for the Martin Shkreli’s of diagnostics sign up!