So, You've been out of Pharma for 5+ yrs. How's it going?

Yes, I should have added in my post above that I am a white male...So basically, forget it in the era of
social justice in the 21st century...It's a no go...As for having a friend get me back in the pharma industry,
I wouldn't touch that industry again no matter how good the money...Once you wake up and realize
what a charade the whole thing is, you can never go back...

 

Just call your buddy Tom, Steve, Dick, Bob, or Jim. There’s a 95% chance or better they will be the ones in the room doing the hiring.

 

You are doing well. I was in pharma almost 30 years. I had my house paid off when I was 45. I had one kid, and they are 38 now. So, what I did I put all the money I could into the 401k and Roth that I could. I lived off 25% of my gross income.
Maybe, a Lincare job, as they make over $75K and docs need to see you because they don't know or don't care paperwork. It is easy and customers want to see you. I worked for one for 3 years after working in in pharma. Look around, and do something that is fun. keep us posted.

 

From nationwide lay-off in Pharma, spent 5 years as Home Health/Hospice Liaison. It's field business development/marketing for referrals. But, also meeting with patients and their families explaining Hospice MediCare Benefit. Found it very rewarding. Just recently retired at 62.

 

Like the above Amway salesman...I too pretend to kill it outside of pharma. And it is rewarding.

 

Its not that super glamorous job and that's what's out there. Why do you think that person is lying?

 

It might not seem glamourous to a baller like you...but it bridged me to retirement.

 

I wonder what our baller colleague does that is glamorous.
To me, the rewarding part sounds good from the OP - and am sure to many others. I have a similar rewarding position. But, don't be shy and
Tell is about the glamour you have and how long have you sustained such a privilege ? Did it come with your position or did you worked for it? Are you killing it at the same time as well ? Share your success..
I am inspired

 

Don't miss pharma at all. Starting Nursing School soon - doing last of prerequisites now... Hope to help push nothing but Generics on all my patients soon...

 

Oh Gaylord!

 

My friend is a PA - writes ALL generics. If i ever need a drug I tell my MD - I want generic - and I will tell them that if the generic is not covered or it is not the lowest copay - please answer your call you will be getting from my pharmacist. It is going to be the generic approved by my insurance at tier 1.
Couple of my previous customers((MD's) told me they are stuck in between a rock and a hard place. When they deal with all of this bullshit they want to quit their jobs.
It is even hard to get the right amount of generics let alone the BRAND NAME of many drugs.
One of them said - it's better to write a 50 y old drug that we know does treat a decease than these new novel drugs that aren't tested over years and years...
One of his colleagues is being sued for writing an injectable for a neuro patient who experienced severe side effect/ reaction to this "novel" drug. The patient went into coma and just imagine the rest...
NOT worth it with some of the drugs that slid by ... FDA is tightening up. There is no" free lunch"

 

at this point, just work for the government. its over for the sales people. too many regulations and micromanagement.

 

Started in pharma w/ Merck right out of college - good pay, easy work, boring as all hell. Hated all the plastic people. Got pissed at a new manager after 5 years and left in a huff. Missed the money and went back with Sandoz a year later. Much more fun company to work for THEN. After 4 years, got bored again and left the industry. 7 years later had a wife and toddler. Decided maybe it wasn't such a bad life after all - benefits, company car, off early for family events. After 28 years, got a divorce, gave the ex half of everything and retired. Now living comfortably but not opulently in California. I was fortunate enough to transition into the vaccine division of the company I worked with and that was a piece of cake. My advise? Stay away from pills. Once you snag a vaccine customer it's just regular visits to take inventory and orders. My daughter went to work with me once on 'Work with your daughter day' and she said, " I get it dad, you have friends and you just go visit your friends every day." I guess I was just lucky. I still have friends in offices that I called on after retiring 8 years ago.

 

Interesting story...thanks for sharing. Sorry to hear you got “halved up” during the divorce...but you don’t seem bitter about it and have a great outlook/perspective.

 

True this. In pharma 20 years now. I have a good amount saved in IRA and 401K, but I have 2 friends who did 15-25 years with government. One just retired at 53 making 125K+ in retirement pension salary with lifetime health insurance and COLAs after 65. She is now double dipping. Her husband has 5 more years in Government and he will retire with a 100K per year pension salary...plus they have a fat IRA.

The corporate way is no longer the best way. Government is it.

 

if you are going to do sales, just do the 1099 or start a business. no need to give these greedy companies any of your creativity and energy.

 

You are absolutely right...there is a name for this...Creeping Socialism...

 

sounds like you will be swallowed by something you cant define. There will never be a socialism here.
And that is a good thing. so don't be afraid!
You are not going to understand that NONE in is entertaining socialism in the true sense of the known system.
Even the pol. candidates that mention the word are being misunderstood.
No worries - back to work buddy!

 

All of their pension is coming off the backs of hardworking taxpayers.
Government is the problem not the solution

 

Not all of their pension is coming off the backs of private hardworking employees as yourself. The public servants/employees pay taxes as well and government agencies themselves contribute to the retirement/ pension plans of the hardworking public employees. Some of the private sector taxes do go towards the pensions (which are calculated by years of service,highest salary and other ways) in exchange.
Do you use roads, highways and bridges to get to work or do you take your private jet?

I am not clear when you say "the government is the problem..." Are you implying that we don't need a government? What is your solution?
The government is not "a group of people," but rather a system through which power is exercised. People are a part of that system, but so are laws and customs that impact if, when, and how government officials can exercise their power. Lastly, communal rule is government as people still govern. I would entertain a debate with you depending whether you make sense. I won't entertain uninformed comments.
Somalia went without a government in the 1990's for about 15 y and 2000's...you can read up on that!