Is it really worth it to spend decades with J&J at the expense of rejecting external promotions

is J&J really worth it for building a long term career? With so many layoffs, reorgs, and slow innovation, does it really make sense to stay for the long haul with J&J? Can someone convince me there is equal opportunity for promotions? I got a feeling is all a selective process and unless you belong to the preferred circle, landing a D1 or above level is a very remote chance.

 

Here is your prize. Thanks for playing. Now run along.

 

Seems like you already know the answer. As long as it serves you stay, but don't get sucked into the Credo spin or drink the marketing J&J pushes to its own employees.

 

I agree, it is very remote to make it to D1, which you already seem to realize. I would love to know the percentage of 22 year olds hired right out of college that ever make it to D1, or even have a 35-40 year career with JnJ. My guess is it's a very small %, or leadership would be spouting it off every chance they get.

 

By virtue of the numbers. there are fewer D1 positions with many M2's chasing after those coveted spots. You have to excel at your M2 position, and also display the skills/competencies needed at the D1 level, which are not the same as an M2.
It is not easy, but I've done it twice. It's even harder if you go for a D1 position at a different Opco where you are not known....but sometimes you find hiring managers willing to take a chance on a high performer from another division b/c bringing in a fresh perspective also had benefits.
Ultimately, you own your career and you have to do what's best for you. Being a D1 is not always roses either.

 

Short answer: No.

Long explanation: Get some experience and exposure to the business models and certain ways of doing things but as someone else said-don't drink the Kool-Aid. It doesn't hurt to have it on your resume for a few years and maybe a little management experience. JNJ does some good things but the only code they've cracked is long-term vanilla-ism. You'll never get a chance to be unique and shine. If you want to stand out and make a difference-you need to go somewhere else. Any opportunity to really be innovative make an impact doesn't happen at JNJ. Once you get to D2 and above, the positions are run based on legal, compliance and finance. The higher you get in JNJ the more they reward diversity and bobbleheads. Truth

 

what are you talking about. JNJ is great for moving around. Ive been at 3 operating companies in sales and moved easily when my record was superb. Get off the pharma side and go device. There are at least 5 device sidecomlanjes where sales makes 200k in a bad year and up to 500k in great years. Non device managers cant crack that. Even training or education jobs are an easy way to move corporate then go up the pay grade chain. But you have to move.

 

More BS from a player.

 

What a load of BS! I left JNJ device after 8 years. Very few sales folks were able to leave in the manner described, and most were treated like traitors by directors in spite of, or maybe because of, their stellar records. The compensation described here is the biggest load.