Several people at HO speaking about this. Big incentives to hire a high percentage of Millennials by year end. Hundreds of qualified field talent being looked over due to age. This screams lawsuits
they are offering interns positions eight months down when they graduate. Enough time to get rid of some of the senior folks. It’s a reality!!
Hey it’s great that there is all this speculation about ageism but unless someone has that conversation of details about the compensation lending for the hiring of millennials than this is just another board complaining. Someone please grow a set and put something concrete out.
All you have to do is look around at who is no longer at Lilly. Experienced, PERFORMING reps are no longer there and many not by choice. Lilly is only hiring millennials with none or barely experience. Many experienced reps have applied at Lilly and Lilly won’t even interview them.
Unfortunately that is not enough to bring suit. There must be concrete evidence/ documentation that the removal or non accaeptance is based upon a factor protected by the EEOC. Until then they can say what they want to justify this obvious cash grab.
There is a pattern. You just need to pay attention to it. And communicate with those that are no longer there. You’ll be surprised.
Agreed there is a pattern but legally you need more than a heresay pattern. Believe me I would love to sue these assholes, but you need real evidence. I have spoke with a few former colleagues but the VERP killed that chance. As soon as you take the buyout you are sunk. Bummer but true.
There are others who did not take the verp and are no longer there. Find out who these are and communicate with them. You will be surprised.
The millennial new hires are like sheep to the slaughter - they have no awareness that they're forging ahead in a declining industry that will offer them less compensation than reps of the past, will offer many of them significant stress while on the job, and will not offer job security (in fact, they'll be lucky to keep their jobs for a couple years before a re-org occurs or driven out by their managers). They're probably just happy to have a well-paid job relative to their millennial peers, even if it doesn't last. I don't envy them. They don't know what older, experienced reps know about how this industry has changed. Companies these days seek the young and inexperienced - they want to low-ball compensation, and they want a sales force comprised of compliant robots who will put up and shut up.
Millenials are clueless out on the field. They don’t relate to doctors and their knowledge is basic. There are companies who still value experience.
Unfortunately this has been the trend for the past 10 years. This is not new. They will be laying off, downsizing, separating, managing out, however you want to word it - of the seasoned reps. Suddenly you will notice more negative remarks or a negative tone to your field ride reports. Miss one or two quarter goals and you are sure to be put on a PIP. This has been going on for years in all companies. As the big pharma companies downsize, the contract companies grow. This is the future of pharma.I would tell any young person to find another field. I am a senior pharma rep who speaks from experience; and I am one of the lucky ones who had a good career and good lifestyle. Best to all.
Yes, those of us that didn’t take the VERP but were let go received a list of employees by job title and age and 95% of the employees that were “reallocated” were above the age of 40!! Ageism is alive and well at Lilly but if you accepted the severance you couldn’t go after them for a EEOC violation! It’s just hush money! Good riddance Lilly! You’re the worst company I have ever worked for! F_ck you!
You were offered VERP and you didn’t accept it and then you were later fired? I took VERP so I’m curious why you didn’t take it and what was the reason you were let go.
Very few who were offered VERP declined the offer. What is your source on this? I personally took VERP but still have friends who work there. I had not heard this was happening to those who stayed.
