After 6 months, I can honestly say this place

is toxic. Much more focus on activity and appearance than performance. Too much top down command structure. Not enough accountability and willingness to take on risk. I will not be here in 6 more months.

 

Where will you be? Need some ideas.

 

either BeiGene or Gilead. I like accountability and getting paid for it. Not spending most of my energy making sure the people in my "matrix" think highly of me.

 

Still using the “matrix”? Same words used in 1996....interesting.

 

And if you are underhanded, good at circumvention of ethics in politically motivated revenge, you'll thrive in the political dome known as the BMS Matrix.

 

Smart move. Take as many sane people with you as possible and leave the neanderthals to run PPK!

 

BeiGene? Seriously? Nothing but a bunch of knock off products but full of hype since they have a base in China.

 

Who cares? It is a growth opportunity void of the nasty anal dwellers that call BMS home.

 

I left a previous good gig to join this Jonestown cult. Took me two weeks to figure out that everyone was a drone programmed to smile and stab you from behind and a frontal assault.

My advice is to keep looking and not look back. BMS is quite toxic as you have mentioned and it will never get any better due to leadership akin to first cousins marrying each other.

 

The ass eating here is record setting. Every former Celgene person is eating ass with a fork.

 

With jelly or syrup?

 

These jobs at Bristol Myers Squibb SF are 90+% politics and fluff. Nice gig if you know how to play the game and ass kissing the right person, regardless of who their $%69ing.

 

Word

 

Too true. Inbred insect politics.

 

Toxic culture at BMS, I've seen much worse at Amgen for example, but there are pockets of incompetent sycophants like Mary moore for example.

 

Here are some ways to tell a flatterer from a true working 'friend'.

1. Opinion conformity. A sycophant imitates your tastes and opinions, often sharing your opinions enthusiastically. ...especially if I am viewed as "above" her or "useful" to her.
2. Fashion Stockers. This is a subtype of mimickers. ...look for these visual signs.
3. Self-promotion. ...
4. Other enhancement. ...
5. Kiss up, kick down. ... emphasis on public kissing and private kicking.
6. Disagree on small points. Oh, but they look like they've really have a point of dissension, not.

And these are our Directors and Regional managers?

 

I worked for BMS for many years. In the early days, it was a company with a very diverse portfolio and some really fun, smart, and dynamic people. The big change, albeit somewhat slow, is when the company (and I think, sadly, most companies fall into this situation) changed from letting scientists and sales/marketing be overrun by attorneys/HR. Throw in ZS associates, robotic recital of messaging (dictated by the attorneys), so many different sales "models" (always with exclamation marks: ADVANCE!!! ENGAGE!!! PUKE!!!!) and hiring too many reps/MSL/etc. It became ALL about "checking the box" but it wasn't always that way, and those days are long gone and will never return.
I appreciate the benefits and financial rewards from my years there, don't get me wrong. But I don't miss it. At all.

 

Well said. Many moons ago many of us said, BMS attorneys were the "great, new cottage industry within our ranks". Beware young folk! They (both attorneys and HR@BMS) wear multiple faces. They know exactly what to present and protect...and as for you, as an employee, well, they will circumvent whatever hurdle they need to protect the company, it's assets and their ass. Even the 'nicest' you work with are weak when it comes down to what's really right and just. Hypocrites of the highest order. Shakespeare was right. But you already knew that, right? With that little diatribe back to the sunshine.

 

This place is like Adult Day Care (without the Depends)!

I love the night time stories from the put out minorities at BMS that are earning in excess of 200K and feel put out in this world.

Seriously? STFU or give your unearned cash to the real homeless and unfortunate!!!

I bet you don't do that you bleeding hearts!

 

“Day of rest”?

Be A Mess has been paying me to rest for months now. Why make it official.