ObamaCare..What does it mean for pharma?

Discussion in 'Merck' started by Anonymous, Jun 28, 2012 at 3:57 PM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    No, Barry is the slackers' president. People who take care of themselves despise this communist. Remember, it wasn't until we had a democrat-controlled congress and it became inevitable that O would be elected that things really started to tank.

    This ain't NPR. Get the fuck off our board, you pansy!
     

  2. Anonymous

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    Oh pleeze........the debt the has put us in makes anything Bush spent seem like pennies and chump change.
    Wake up toots...he is the president of those who want entitlements....Obama's 2009 pledge for no taxes? This reverses it, watch out middle class!
     
  3. Anonymous

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    I'm a life long republican. My dad was a Barry Goldwater republican. Some form of healthcare reform had to happen. Republicans scream for repeal. To do what? No doubt the bill will need major reform, but at least the ball is now rolling. Republicans were happy to just have the status quo. Now thier getting thier clocks cleaned. Have you taken the time to look at your pay stub to see how much your health insurance costs? Wait until merck lays you off and you have to go through cobra. Something had to happen. I give the dems credit for doing something. Republicans are stuck in neutral. Now is thier chance to gain back control, not repeal, but replace and reform. Now's thier chance to do something for the american people rather than take us to war and bailout the banks. We'll see. Interstate sales of health insurance has to happen. Portability has to happen. Tort reform has to happen. I don't worry about "gov. between you and your doctor." The insurance companies are already in between me and my doctor. Hospitals just got s big win. Insurance companies just got millions of new customers. You would suppose the same would be true for drug companies. As usual the politics of this was a big payoff to corporations (see above). But it could be a benefit to real people too. The jury is still out. We'll see. If my taxes go up a little but my monthly health care insurance costs go down, then that's a good thing. We'll see. As partisan a bitch as she is, looks like Pelosi was right. We had to pass it to find out what was in it.
     
  4. Anonymous

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    There are some good pieces to it. No cap on insurance. If you are sick, the insurance company can say you hit the limits. Also pre-existing conditions are also covered which is great. The rest is not good. It will allow companies to get rid of insurance for the workers because the availability is there. I have no problem giving people who hit hard times this but just like everything it will be abused.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    There are other ways…Obama Care will bankrupt this country!
     
  6. Anonymous

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    Newsflash. This country is already bankrupt. These guys of both parties have already taken us over the cliff. Repugs. Go to war. Dems give away the store. They both sign off on tarp,bailouts,stimulus. When does the middle class get a break? Taxes WILL go up. We might as well get something for it, like possible cheaper healthcare instead of everyone else, and I mean everyone getting something. The middle class is the first to pay and last to stay. First to owe and first to go. It's all a rich mans war and a poor mans fight. I say tax the hell out everyone making over 250k. Go ahead and re-distribute. Lets see how fuckn clooney like's that. What do i care? No one gives a shit about us. It's now every man for himself I'm afraid. Humpty has fallen off the wall, is in a trillion (a year) pieces and can never be put to gather again.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    finally somebody on Cafe Pharma that not only gets it, but is able to articulate it nicely...

    say goodbye to the America you once knew folks...Our first elected dictator is taking the country down fast...

    by the way, FU MERCK!
     
  8. Anonymous

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    To the last post. You clearly are uneducated.

    Dictator? Popularly Elected and Electorally College Elected. Supreme Court Validated.

    Merck is a wonderful company. You are a disgusting individual. Why don't you move to Russia. You'd be happy there.
     
  9. Anonymous

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    Questions:

    - What does "take our country back" mean? Back to when?

    - What was Bush's and the Republicans role in this fucked up economy?

    - If you're not rich, how will Romney benefit you as an employee?

    - We've witnessed the failed policies of the GOP. Please tell me the last time a Republican was president and the vast majority of Americans who work for a living were also well off? It seems to me that at least since Nixon every Republican president has totally screwed up the economy.
     
  10. Anonymous

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    ""The people will speak at the ballot box on November 6th. "Obamacare" was shoved down our throats by Reid and Pelosi, and now by Justice Roberts (who re-wrote the statue to uphold it! What is that all about???! What happened to the Constitution???!) This is democracy? This is following the will of the people? It's time to take back our country, our liberty. Vote for Romney, who will "repeal and replace". There are far superior solutions to our healthcare issues: tort reform, purchasing healthcare in an open-market (across state lines).""

    Too funny. Actually, it Was following the will of the people. Understand what just happened. In 2006 and 2008, the people did speak and they voted the R's out and gave the D's huge electoral victories. Obama, against the advice of many in his own party, used all his political capital on health care reform. It was a risk he took. The D's paid a huge price for it in 2010, but they got the bill through and it now has the seal of SCOTUS on it and the "Decider" on the law was CJ Roberts (Pres GW Bush's guy). It's the law of the land. He got it done, like it or not. That's bad ass - and not one R voted for it nor did they even try to negotiate any parts of it. They're falling on the wrong side of history again...and they're saying they're going to repeal it! Good luck with that.
    I say bring on the tax penalty. I'm tired of the free loaders not paying into the health care system that EVeryone uses at many points in their lives.
    That is a very republican/conservative notion - personal responsibility. Yet the R's can't find any place to compromise in any of these issues?
    The Rs are so busy hating Obama and trying to deal him political blows that they are missing the fact that Obama is crushing them, psy ops style:
    Health care bill (biggest thing since the last "govt takeover", Medicare),
    immigration reform (securing a generation of Hispanic voters),
    foreign policy victories (Arab spring, end Iraq war, Bin Laden dead, Qhadaffi def, Al Qaeda irrelevant, etc),
    saved US auto industry ( suprise, Romney wanted bankruptcy)
    And on and on...

    He's getting historic shit done while his adversaries are nipping at his heals. How's that Fast and Furious thing going Lol..

    Thats ok, I think we'll see more cooperation from the Rs in Obama's 2nd term. They would be foolish not to.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    "Popularly elected....electorally college elected...supreme court validated"....means nothing!

    Many who voted for Obama in '08 will not vote for him again! He is anything but transparent! He is, in fact, deceitful. He said the mandate is not a tax....and guess what--it is! And it is the largest tax on the middle class in all of world history! 90% of Americans were fine with healthcare as it is. Why does everything have to be overhauled to accomodate 10%? There would have been far easier ways to fix the circumstances of the 10%. Now the middle class will pay far more and receive far less.

    I think you should move to Russia, as you clearly do not understand liberty vs. tyranny.

    BTW, what does "Merck [being] a wonderful company" have to do with any of this???? Moron!
     
  12. Anonymous

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    Hello??! How about the greatest president of all---Ronald Reagan. He turned the country around after the hugely unsuccessful Carter administration.

    And "take our country back" means upholding the Constitution and our freedom/liberty. No to big government, endless taxation and entitlements. Obama is transforming this country into socialism. If that's what you want, then move to a socialist country! See how you would like to be living in Spain, Italy or Greece.
     
  13. Anonymous

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    You are foolish to believe there will be no caps. There simply is no money to fund "Obamacare". Obama has lied.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Totally agree. When Reagan was elected and we started into recovery after the disaster of the failed Jimmy Carter, 500,000 to 1,000,000 jobs were being added per month. During Obama's so called "recovery" we are adding what??? 60,000 per month. Not much of a recovery….is it, Obama fans? Oh, and BTW Obama fans…when G W Bush was in office the unemployment rate was about 4%….hmmm
     
  15. Anonymous

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    ....adding what? You forgot about Mr O's big spendaholic problem...He should take a course from Dave Ramsey.....

    "don't got it, don't spend it!".
     
  16. Anonymous

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    Jobs..read the post…if you can.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    George W was a criminal and a bufoon. Even Romney has distanced himself. HOw often is George W campaigning? Republicans will lose. Obama represents the New America.
     
  18. Anonymous

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    THE NEW BROKEN AMERICA!!! This is true....we are going the way of the Europeans...Republicans need to win...this quote is from a communist--we want our free America....VOTE THIS CRIMINAL OUT..

    Though Barack Obama assured the middle class he would not raise taxes on those making less than $200,000 a year, Moore’s research shows that in reality, a significant percentage of the burden will be shouldered by those making $120,000 or less by the year 2016.

    Here are rough numbers of how the costs will increase over the next few years:

    Tax for not buying health insurance----AND IT IS A TAX!

    2014 2016
    adult $95 $695
    Family $285 $2085

    The hard working, middle class, private sector taxpayers are ALWAYS the ones who shoulder the burden of the ProgressiComm’s collectivist schemes. From now to November 6, the President and every Democrat need to be reminded that they passed this TAX.

    MAY THE DUMBO RATS AND OBLAMA LOSE IT ALL
     
  19. Anonymous

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    Did you ever notice democrats never talk about facts? Everything is based on emotion and not reality. They just spew out hate. I got news for you…George W Bush is not running for President.