Testopel - Nebido competitor

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  1. Anonymous

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    Slate is now the sole promoter of Testopel = no more Norgenix.
     

  2. Anonymous

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    Any target date on Nebido approval in 2011.
     
  3. Anonymous

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    that would be good to know, huh?
     
  4. Anonymous

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    when was the original launch date?
     
  5. Anonymous

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    Was supposed to be launched in November/December 2009. I've heard a wide variety of opinions on the subject of Nebido's approval - anywhere from 1st quarter 2012 to potentially NEVER being approved. Either way, it still won't measure up (length of sustained levels) to the new gold standard in TRP, which any reputable URO or Endo would tell you is Testopel. You name any KOL in Urology that's nationally known and I'll bet you anything that he/she uses Testopel with the majority of their T patients!
     
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  7. Anonymous

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    You're funny....so there was some confusion surrounding ONE detail aid and a video clip, which clouded a few minds on the actual benefits of Testopel. Big deal. Everything has been updated so that it's a little clearer for those who allow their minds to wander and all of the sudden come to the conclusion that this stuff cures cancer. Missing payroll? WTF are you even talking about??? I know that my paychecks have been 100% correct since day one. The leadership is SOLID - this "business opportunity" was presented to every single employee during the interview process. The fact of the matter is that at the end of the day everyone knows what the leadership team is trying to accomplish and was savvy enough to realize the unbelievable potential this opportunity possessed! Finally, the website is that way on PURPOSE, and not for the reason(s) I'm sure you're thinking of, trust me. ;)

    Bottom line, which I understand isn't easy for a person that wasn't invited to come aboard to accept, is that Testopel IS INDEED the new GOLD STANDARD whether you choose to accept it or not. And hell, don't take my word for it - just go ask any reputable URO and I bet 99% of the time the answer will be the same as mine.

    Late.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    Ha! Sounds super defensive. I interview with their sales director, what a joke! You know someones drinking cool aid when they can't state ONE challenge they face with the product. Listen Slate, I did my OWN research with MY doctors and you know what? The ones that use it wait months to get reimbursed and have a very difficult time getting assistance from your company. They say the product works well with a doZen pellets, providing they don't come back out of the surgery site. Not to mention the ones that used it for years laughed at the idea of using it when the price went from $20 to 60 for each pellet. 300% increase sounds like someone wants to rip off soca! Anyway, glad I didn't go with this company. Selling a prescription product isn't as bad as selling snake oil.

    Yeah, and what company takes all of the bells and whistles out of their web site without a warning. Face it, your company is unethical and will sell/say anything just to make a buck. Put the coolaid down and get the empower some new clothes!

    Regards,

    able to sleep at night
     
  9. Anonymous

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    It's blatantly obvious you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about. It's either that or simply a disgruntled candidate who didn't make the cut. Here are a few aspects of the company in list form - I'm sure everyone who reads this will be able to put two and two together and see just how moronic you are.

    1. Challenge? Awareness
    2. Research on product? 10 years calling on URO's and doc's saying things like "I haven't been this excited about anything since the launch of Viagra.
    3. Reimbursement time/assistance (funniest one by the way)? Full department dedicated solely to verifying Testopel candidates insurance on behalf of the physicians office - results in a couple of days and full payment to office within approx 30 days.
    4. Price? About 1/2 the cost of the gels and the added bonus of establishing a business partnership with physicians/offices (psst this product generates revenue for the physician).

    Hmmmmm, lets see here....build revenue AND make life MUCH easier for the patient...uh, I don't think it takes a genius to figure out what therapy 99% of ACCURATELY INFORMED physicians/patients would favor here.

    Bye bye now... ;)
     
  10. Anonymous

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    Here's the deal. I AM a physician and I HAVE used this product. As a stand alone it does offer a long duration compared to the other modalities (3 months average, not 6). From that standpoint it offers some patients an alternative to their current therapy but I wouldn't call it the gold standard. And another thing Testopel rep: when you say that every credible Urologist is using the product you've basically said that every one that hasn't used it is not credible. Be careful. We read these sites from time to time and I don't think you need to be making judgment calls and determining what constitutes "credible Uro". Let me ask you this, can you walk into my office and do what I do? No you can't. While your company is responsible for telling you if you're qualified or not the state medical board and 10+years of schooling tells me I am. Since you did tick me off I'll also say two things in list form since thats what you seem to like:
    * It takes 60 - 120 days to be reimbursed...FACT! Your fully dedicated company is a phone number and a different person 75% of the time. They tell you one thing to get you to buy the product and guess what happens after the procedure is done? "Well the insurance company made a mistake, let me handle the appeal process for your office" and what you don't realize yet is that this takes another 60 - 90 days! So get your FACTS straight. I assume you're new to the company. Wait until you get some experience.

    * Cost? Patients pay a co-pay with your product as well (often times a deductible needs to be met which can be as much as $4000). And pssst, I wouldn't sell the spread on your product......

    Good luck and don't pin physicians as a bunch of idiots if they don't use your products.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    Ah, the big bad physician - am I supposed to be intimidated? ;)

    A few points of clarification for you doctor:

    1. I should have preceded credible with 'informed' - I realize that there are a lot of solid physicians out there who for whatever reason have never heard about this therapy.

    2. 60-120 days is NOT fact - PERIOD. Does it sometimes take that long? Of course. It's no different than any other product except we actually do the leg work FOR YOU, so why are you so worked up over it anyway? The average turn around time right now is between 30-45 days in most cases. PLUS, we offer accounts 90 terms, which in turn does some serious damage to your argument.

    3. Yes, some patients (mostly Medicare) have a co-pay with Testopel, but the majority do NOT. Why? It's because Testopel is considered a medical benefit, not a pharmacy benefit. Last I checked a pharmacy script requires a MONTHLY co-pay for the patient. Hell, I don't know about you, but I'd MUCH rather have to cough up a co-pay 3 times a year or not at all vs. every single month! Also, for all of about 15 minutes of your time, what else can you do in your office that will pay you more? Answer, almost NOTHING. AND, how much does writing that PHARMACY SCRIPT pay you, huh? That's right, a big fat GOOSE EGG every single time. Hmmmmm...that payment is starting to sound a little better now, eh?
     
  12. Anonymous

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    You = Clueless
     
  13. Anonymous

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    Ha, what a laugh. Bob Shithead was fired from Elan because he was screwing his Director of Communications. He was fired from Prometheus, fired from Zymo, Fired from Elan and fired from Auxilium. All facts that you just need to look up. It wont be long before he gets in trouble with DOJ or OIG. The guy is a loser and will take you down with him. Sounds like he might have already done so.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Fired from Solvay too. Co promotion with Norgenix ended because Shithead lied to them too. Bad guy. One of the sleaziest.
     
  15. Anonymous

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    You=dumbass.
     
  16. Anonymous

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    Um....I think you're the dumb ass. The bottom line is that you work for a bunch of sleazes that sold you a bill of goods and you still haven't realized it. If you're management, and I'd bet you are, you know your ship is sinkin! Your CEO and trophy skank are scam artists, plain and simple. I fell for the BS "business opportunity". Here's the real situation. I worked for these people and they only care about the cash. (Incidently they DO have money problems and did when I was there over 7 months ago.). If you take a job here your goals will be based on existing business that you're expected to grow by an unrealistic margin. (Maybe 2 people there ever hit numbers) very unethical as well. This product is indicated for male hypo gonadism and I received specific instructions on how to direct Drs to use it in females. They'll be shurt down shortly...go bag groceries instead of working here!
     
  17. Anonymous

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    I could not have said it better. Classless leadership and unethical behavior. The only thing Slate has going for it is Cindy. Nice rack and I tapped that back in San Diego. Very sweet.
     
  18. Anonymous

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    two offices in Texas were contacted my Medicare Fraud unit. Seems that Testopel was instructing doctors on how to manipulate the spread on pricing. Trouble ahead...
     
  19. Anonymous

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    WTF? You are a complete MORON - Testopel isn't even covered by Medicare in Texas! Damn, pokes a few holes in your story now doesn't it... ;)

    I know, I know...it SUX getting your ass kicked!
     
  20. Anonymous

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    what's a matter whitehead, feeling the pressure youn scumbag!