Promeris Reactions

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only two threads? There are plenty others for you to place a duplicate post. $500,000 promeris sold in my territory. $0 returns. Where are you getting your info?

Still waiting on YOUR info. When FD conducted your studies, how long did it take to kill 100% of the fleas?

Or are you completed committed to just talking about Hartz and not your product?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Still waiting on YOUR info. When FD conducted your studies, how long did it take to kill 100% of the fleas?

Or are you completed committed to just talking about Hartz and not your product?

I've never talked the Hartz/Summit link in my accounts. Vectra 3D has no presence in my area. 100% adult kill in 24 - 36 hrs (95% w/in 24) when applied to an infested dog. Studies also show that it paralyzes the mouth parts first (in under an hour in most cases), thus halting biting and feeding.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Only two threads? There are plenty others for you to place a duplicate post. $500,000 promeris sold in my territory. $0 returns. Where are you getting your info?

Your own information doesn't show anything less than 24 hours flea kill. YOUR OWN INFO SAYS THIS YOU DIPSHIT, that is where he got his info from, can you fucking read????? Advantage, Advantage MUlti and K9 Advantix all have a guaranteed kill in 12 hours, and you know good and well they work, your talking out your ass if you say different. If you do say different, I need proof, not your opinion, otherwise, without proof, we'll all just assume the facts are still the facts.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Your own information doesn't show anything less than 24 hours flea kill. YOUR OWN INFO SAYS THIS YOU DIPSHIT, that is where he got his info from, can you fucking read????? Advantage, Advantage MUlti and K9 Advantix all have a guaranteed kill in 12 hours, and you know good and well they work, your talking out your ass if you say different. If you do say different, I need proof, not your opinion, otherwise, without proof, we'll all just assume the facts are still the facts.

First off cum gurgler, I never said Promeris' kill was any faster than 24 hrs.

Second. I've never said FL and Advantage don't work. Quite the contrary. They both work quite well. They just don't provide a good 4+ weeks of control (probably getting a solid 3 wks) anymore. You can show me any study you want, but 99% of practicing veterinarians can't be wrong. They all say that FL and Advantage don't work as well as they used to! So fuck you, and fuck your products! If Promeris doesn't take your business, Comfortis or Vectra will! This is a fact.

You scared little bitch...LOL, they all work just as well as they always have, if they don't why would they still be the leading sellers out there? You saying your vets are idiots?? Must be if they by from your ignorant ass. Go back and re read your own posts, and tell me what you draw from it. So, fuck you and your products and bring it on bitch, I'm the wheel in my territory, and you think you got what it takes, come get some, and I'll send your ass packing too. You fucking loud mouth loser, people like you that make job fun, lots easier when I have the competition of your level. Stop being an internet tough guy and step up you little bitch. Trying to win an argument on here is like winning a gold in the special olympics, you're still retarded, so I guess you win.

PS Vectra??? Are you fucking kidding me?? They can't give that shit away, and i is a damn sight better than pukemeris, fucking dipshit.

To the above poster who said and I quote--

"and i is a damn sight better than pukemeris"

What fucking language is this.
Try college in you next lifetime. Then tell Sumitomo to sell Vectra 3d under a Hartz label.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You scared little bitch...LOL, they all work just as well as they always have, if they don't why would they still be the leading sellers out there? You saying your vets are idiots?? Must be if they by from your ignorant ass. .

You're the fucking idiot moron! They're still the market leaders because until 4 months ago, there were no alternatives! Now there are. You will probably remain the market leader for a couple more years while the new products pick up speed, but you'll be losing market share and $'s the entire time! I love how you people keep dismissing the FACT that clinics ARE buying Promeris, Comfortis and Vectra (well maybe not Vectra). They are buying less or NO frontline and advantage. Even in your area Mr. Wheel (what a douche).

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're the fucking idiot moron! They're still the market leaders because until 4 months ago, there were no alternatives! Now there are. You will probably remain the market leader for a couple more years while the new products pick up speed, but you'll be losing market share and $'s the entire time! I love how you people keep dismissing the FACT that clinics ARE buying Promeris, Comfortis and Vectra (well maybe not Vectra). They are buying less or NO frontline and advantage. Even in your area Mr. Wheel (what a douche).

Wow, what a bunch of fucked up assholes on this board. I say we all meet in the schoolyard tonight at 9 p.m. and fight it out......Last man standing.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wow, what a bunch of fucked up assholes on this board. I say we all meet in the schoolyard tonight at 9 p.m. and fight it out......Last man standing.

Can we do it tomorrow night? I want to watch American Idol tonight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You're the fucking idiot moron! They're still the market leaders because until 4 months ago, there were no alternatives! Now there are. You will probably remain the market leader for a couple more years while the new products pick up speed, but you'll be losing market share and $'s the entire time! I love how you people keep dismissing the FACT that clinics ARE buying Promeris, Comfortis and Vectra (well maybe not Vectra). They are buying less or NO frontline and advantage. Even in your area Mr. Wheel (what a douche).

Yea, nice argument, except for the facts are wrong. Promeris will be about as earthshaking as K9 Advantix, and if you think it is so good, explain why there are the reactions, the shitty smell, the 1/2 qt quanities and the fact that I see very little if any of it on the shelves of clinics I deem worth calling on.

Douche?? Jealousy is a jagged little pill, I know, but if you feel tough enough, then put the numbers up. Talking shit is easy, but I made goal on K9, Multi AND Advantage this month and YTD. So, you believe what you want to, and keep getting your ass kicked. Is ignorance really bliss?? You should know pretty well by what I read from you.

Now, come on with some new cusswords tough guy, I'm getting scared.

Bayer & FD Rep...where are you located? all im looking for is a state. I think your both pathetic and would like to know if your in my territory. If you are both so tough and all on cafe pharma....where u from?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayer & FD Rep...where are you located? all im looking for is a state. I think your both pathetic and would like to know if your in my territory. If you are both so tough and all on cafe pharma....where u from?

First off I believe you meant to say "you're," (as in you are) not your. I sure hope you're (see how that works) not a vet.

I live in KS.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Bayer & FD Rep...where are you located? all im looking for is a state. I think your both pathetic and would like to know if your in my territory. If you are both so tough and all on cafe pharma....where u from?

Trust me, if I were in your territory, you would know, so don't worry...for now. I know all the reps in my area, and this whole conversation would be beneath all of them. You're (see how that works again?) safe, sleep tight.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Carol....this board is for sales reps. Go find a tech board.

don't worry, I don't think I'ld want to be part of your sales rep party, you guys act like children. I just want to use products that are safe and will work for our clients. I have the opinion that not everything works well all the time especially with client compliace.

I learned something by looking at this post... Any ol' gasbag can make comments here. I guess if I want any real answers, I'll get the from a friend who works at my vets office.

It is usually posted in every thread... DO NOT USE THIS SITE AS A LOCATION TO FIND USEFUL INFORMATION.

Most are childish on here, and it is more fun and games than anything, and I'm certain this is not an attitude carried out the door in the morning, or they would be very short lived.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I work in a clinic. I tried this product on two dogs and I could not believe how strong the smell of the product was. I had to take the two dogs into the back and give them a bath. Bad stuff.

i put promeris on my little 10 lb dog and the next morning her face was swollen and she had the worst case of hives u have ever seen!!!!!!!! we had to take her to the vet for shots, and even right now she is acting poopy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i put promeris on my little 10 lb dog and the next morning her face was swollen and she had the worst case of hives u have ever seen!!!!!!!! we had to take her to the vet for shots, and even right now she is acting poopy.

This was not from the promeris, get real. It sounds more like she was stung by a bee or bitten by a spider.

If any dogs have a rxn to promeris, this is not what happens at ALL. So don't blame promeris.

If you put it on your dog and he ran out in the road and got hit by a car, would you blame promeris too?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This was not from the promeris, get real. It sounds more like she was stung by a bee or bitten by a spider.

If any dogs have a rxn to promeris, this is not what happens at ALL. So don't blame promeris.

If you put it on your dog and he ran out in the road and got hit by a car, would you blame promeris too?

No, I would blame that on PH6!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

No, I would blame that on PH6!

Right. How silly of me. Of course!

I feel sorry for the person with the hateful responses. It is really quite childish.

I happened across this web site looking for "more" information on this product, and thanks to the decent people who have expressed concern for this product, I will not be purchasing it. I will continue to use Frontline, because it is proven effective, and is non irritating to the sinuses.

Hi,
I have been trying to find out info on Promeris. I have 2 dogs and refuse to use most of the products out right now and was hoping Promeris would wind up being different.

I lost my beloved Pom that my husband gave me after loosing a baby. She died in my arms 36 hours after treating her with a half dose of the Hartz Flea drops. Mind you the full dose was the correct ammount for her size and I only applied half of it. It affected her nervous system, she was vomiting and developed a respiratory infection which is what killed her. Yes a necropsy was done and the EPA is involved.

Anyone with the ability to give me grown up info without the name calling please email me at pgnprincess1212@yahoo.com.
Thanks
Rachelle

Your dog was killed with.-Hartz Flea drops. The brand name is Vectra 3d.

I had posted yesterday asking for grown up info. This is the email I got in response to my request.

Rachelle, if that's your real name.
Why are you looking for info on ProMeris on CafePharma?
I'm sure you're just a plant by Fort Dodge to try and lure a rep into giving out details as to who they are.
If you are sincerely looking for information on ProMeris why don't you check out www.promeris.com?
Or call 888-PROMERIS (888-776-6374).
Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
CafePharmaPerson

I wrote back with my full name and my cell #. I resent whoever sent that accusing me of being a plant. I asked for no personal info from anyone and onestly don't really give a damn who is answering. I just wanted an answer. Who better to ask that the people supposedly in the loop on the products themselves. Hoping to get a intelligent answer I wound up with a childish accusation. Of course I checked the website, I am not a moron. It didn't give me the info I wanted. As far as me being a plant...please...I have much more important things to deal with than trying to ruin your life. Not all people are heartless sharks that want to bite you in the ass.

I feel sorry for the people who work in an environment where you are paranoid about every little question you encounter. This board appears to be a place where former school bullys that joined the same job field come to have pissing contests so they can remain a ledgend in their own eyes. I have to say I suggest that if you have to be scared on a daily basis of being spyed on or having someone hunt you down...you need to become a florist.

As to the comment about the Hartz drops. I did not ask. I also do not want to discuss the drops or the case. I simply provided that as info for insight as to why I am trying to find out as much as can about a new product.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hopefully you aren't relying on cafe pharma for real answers!

I came to this site after my vet switched from frontline to this product.
Gee, the site looks nice, I thought. As I read the comments from various people posting, I realized it was just a silly blogging and there was really little of value. Thank the very very few for a little insight...and the majority for being small minded third grade levels of playground chatter.
Won't be back to this one !

Well I can tell you I am a consumer. I do not work for any of these competing companies and all i have to say is Promeris is JUNK. It smells terrible, it gave BOTH of my dogs bad reactions to the back of the neck and shoulders. I had always used Frontline and it had always done awesome. MY vet ran out of it and I opted to "try" ProMeris and what a mistake that was. I would not recommend this Flea/Tick med to anyone. ESPECIALLY not on smaller animals. My little Bichon had the worst reaction to it. THROW IT OUT pet owners.. stick to frontline.

The fleas and ticks are less annoying than your posts. I think I will stick with them until somehow the adults that are posting here start acting like adults. I realize this maybe a staggering concept to some but if you don't like it, don't buy it, and if you think you won't like it, don't buy it. Wow, it really is that simple. Amazing ain't it.

I work in a vet clinic and we just had a Fort Dodge rep in today talking about Promeris and apparently there is NO eucalyptus in the product, they said it is a combo of all the ingredients. I agree it is a strong smelling product. Also I used it on my dog and it bleached his fur. He is a black and white Siberian and he has a nice sized white patch exactly where I applied the product. Fort Dodge claims that Promeris did not cause this to happen and then proceeded to tell me that it will stain you car seats! So.....

If you want to kill and control fleas and ticks effectively and nontoxically, do some research on food grade diatomaceous earth. For the sake of breaking up the vitriolic mundanity that pervades this site, may I say that it would be prudent not to use any drug, whether for human or veterinary use (internal or topical), until that drug has been in wide use for a minimum of three years, or more wisely, for five years. Beyond that, after reading the mechanism of action of Promeris, would you feel comfortable applying it directly to your children's skin? How about your own skin? Gee, how often do you pet your dog or stroke your cat? And do they live in a bubble, or do you let them occupy the same space/furniture/flooring/bedding as you? H'mm, and these chemicals are waterproof and last for six weeks? Great!!

I saw the TV ad for Promeris for the first time tonite, and immediately Googled the product name to get more information. At a time when we should all be focusing our energies, science, and technologies on saving this planet, I was hoping to find news of an intelligent flea and tick control product that would poison neither our pets nor us with toxins. The Promeris website was vague, at best, with a far too conspicuously absent posting of possible adverse reactions (Fort Dodge's legal department must still be on Spring break!). Not unlike human pharmaceuticals, however, it appears that when one toxic chemical isn't effective enough, adding a second should surely do the trick...and hey, the public is stupid enough to buy it, right? Besides, not a whole lot of FDA hoops to jump through with veterinary medicine, right? So why not?

Faster than one can say "Class Action", I moved on in my search for intelligence, but prior to Googling metaflumizone and Amitraz, I thought I might find some actual user info by visiting this site. Instead, I find a shockingly sad commentary on the state of intelligence of this site's users, few of whom (the sincere and brave vet tech excepted!) appear to have beyond a 7th grade education, much less the ability to conduct themselves well enough to be hired to represent any company in any capacity.

To the anonymous poster with the gutter mentality and mouth to match, by all means, soak your pets in Promeris, and inhale deeply as you do! With any luck, we shall all be spared the chance you could propogate to make more of your ilk.

Not unlike human pharmaceuticals, however, it appears that when one toxic chemical isn't effective enough, adding a second should surely do the trick...and hey, the public is stupid enough to buy it, right? Besides, not a whole lot of FDA hoops to jump through with veterinary medicine, right? So why not?

Just an FYI -- Promeris is an EPA approved product, NOT a FDA approved product. And believe it or not, there ARE a whole lot of FDA hoops to jump through when it comes to vet medicine. The FDA pulled a heartworm medication drug off the market a couple of years ago because of adverse reactions, so please don't be so naive as to think the FDA makes it easy for the manufactures to get a drug approved. On the other hand, with the EPA, drugs are granted approval much more quickly and without the hoops.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I work in a vet clinic and we just had a Fort Dodge rep in today talking about Promeris and apparently there is NO eucalyptus in the product, they said it is a combo of all the ingredients. I agree it is a strong smelling product. Also I used it on my dog and it bleached his fur. He is a black and white Siberian and he has a nice sized white patch exactly where I applied the product. Fort Dodge claims that Promeris did not cause this to happen and then proceeded to tell me that it will stain you car seats! So.....

What is the name of your rep. He needs some remedial training and I want to give him a call. The product DOES contain eucalyptus oil.

Thank you for an intelligent response. I stand partially corrected, but it would seem your report of Promeris' more quickly obtained EPA approval argues further to my point. Personally, I find both regulatory agencies (FDA and EPA) to be highly subject to political and/or monetary persuasion (the two being often synonymous), as are public sources of funding for all medical research - and believe that this shall regretably continue so as long as we live in a medicine-for-profit society.

A large portion of today's consumer market has abandoned common sense for the sake of seemingly "instant" results. Others never had common sense to begin with, and rely upon advertising media for their medical awareness. An even larger portion of today's medical providers are focused more keenly on the bottom line than on the practice of good medicine. Seven minutes, here's a script, next!! Who cares if the first pill prescribed caused adverse side effects? Here, take a second one to mask the first. And there's a third one we can add if the second one causes yet another problem. Who cares if your liver shuts down, we're only five or ten years away from manufacturing new ones in vitro, so why should I give up my free lunches, free samples, free desk toys, and let's just keep quiet about that free trip to Fiji on the side for writing a bonus-qualifying quota of your new drug? It was for attending a seminar, right? Continuing med ed, you know! Besides, if I run out of drugs to prescribe, or if you keep getting sicker, I'll just refer you (or your pet) to another physician...Yeah, that's it...You must need a specialist!

But I digress. The bottom line for me is that our planet is in dire jeopardy, less is more, and a more natural cure - while admittedly not always better, is usually safer, and equally effective in the final analysis. If given a choice between adding to the toxic load that is killing us all and destroying our planet, or becoming more aware and applying more natural, nontoxic solutions to life's problems, is it not now urgent and incumbent upon all of us to do so??

In simpler terms, regardless of what kind of approval Promeris entered the market with or just how that occurred, this poster believes that IT IS A HIGHLY TOXIC CHEMICAL SOUP THAT HAS NO BUSINESS ON YOUR PETS OR IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT.

To the woman who lost her Pom, PLEASE DO AN ONLINE SEARCH TO LEARN ABOUT FOOD GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH.

With this as a final post, I wish you all good health, and good sense!!

Originally Posted by Voice of Reason

Personally, I find both regulatory agencies (FDA and EPA) to be highly subject to political and/or monetary persuasion (the two being often synonymous)

Wait. you have had personal experience registering a product with the EPA and the FDA?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

sorry my typing sucks correction "quit"

actually you also mispelled deffensive jejeje

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I had posted yesterday asking for grown up info. This is the email I got in response to my request.

Rachelle, if that's your real name.
Why are you looking for info on ProMeris on CafePharma?
I'm sure you're just a plant by Fort Dodge to try and lure a rep into giving out details as to who they are.
If you are sincerely looking for information on ProMeris why don't you check out www.promeris.com?
Or call 888-PROMERIS (888-776-6374).
Let me know if I can be of further assistance.
CafePharmaPerson

I wrote back with my full name and my cell #. I resent whoever sent that accusing me of being a plant. I asked for no personal info from anyone and onestly don't really give a damn who is answering. I just wanted an answer. Who better to ask that the people supposedly in the loop on the products themselves. Hoping to get a intelligent answer I wound up with a childish accusation. Of course I checked the website, I am not a moron. It didn't give me the info I wanted. As far as me being a plant...please...I have much more important things to deal with than trying to ruin your life. Not all people are heartless sharks that want to bite you in the ass.

I feel sorry for the people who work in an environment where you are paranoid about every little question you encounter. This board appears to be a place where former school bullys that joined the same job field come to have pissing contests so they can remain a ledgend in their own eyes. I have to say I suggest that if you have to be scared on a daily basis of being spyed on or having someone hunt you down...you need to become a florist.

As to the comment about the Hartz drops. I did not ask. I also do not want to discuss the drops or the case. I simply provided that as info for insight as to why I am trying to find out as much as can about a new product.

i know what you mean.....i came online to find out how this promeris works because i just started using it on my new puppy, i wasn't even concerned about other products out there, with this being my first dog in about 25 years, and i just trusted what the vet had given me....she actualy put him on sentinel and promeris and i was concerned because i noticed my pup was not as happy wen i fist got him. Since i only had him 4 days before i got the first dosage, i just figured that maybe he neede time to adjust. but just yesterday i gave him the second dosage and i got a vomit and the same sleepy-bored attitude from him again. so if you do find out some more info please let me know too. i was kind of liking the idea of just feeding him the garlic jiji!!!!

For all of you who are looking for information online, why not ask the questions of your vet, and if you are not satisfied, go get a second opinion. You will only get biased and possibly misleading info on here, and I would be guilty as well, as I work for a competitor. I would hazard a guess you do not diagnose yourself online with questions in random forums, so why would you do so with your pets? Ask you vet, and if you do not like his answer, go to another, and so on until YOU are satisfied with what you hear.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What is the name of your rep. He needs some remedial training and I want to give him a call. The product DOES contain eucalyptus oil.

AFTER CALLING THE 1800 NUMBER ON THE BOX THE PERSON ON THE PHONE TOLD ME IT DOES INDEED HAVE EUCALYPTUS IN THE DOG PRODUCT

What's up with the "appropriate legal action" the box refers to if it's sold outside a client/patient relationship? If there was legal action to be taken, why hasn't Merial or Bayer taken it?

Originally Posted by Christina

Well I can tell you I am a consumer. I do not work for any of these competing companies and all i have to say is Promeris is JUNK. It smells terrible, it gave BOTH of my dogs bad reactions to the back of the neck and shoulders. I had always used Frontline and it had always done awesome. MY vet ran out of it and I opted to "try" ProMeris and what a mistake that was. I would not recommend this Flea/Tick med to anyone. ESPECIALLY not on smaller animals. My little Bichon had the worst reaction to it. THROW IT OUT pet owners.. stick to frontline.

Christina... THANK YOU for your information. I was looking to see if anyone who had a Bichon had tried this product and if their dog had any adverse reactions. After I sifted through this mess of "school yard bully talk" (so juvenille!! No wonder today's kids are messed up if adults act like this), I found your posting. I had tried Advantage, and two of my Bichons had reactions. I found out later that the company is having problems with this product on white dogs. I have gone back to Frontline and will stay with it. Thanks again for your information!!! ... for some of you others... you really need to grow up and get a life.

We are in fact not having problems with Advantage on small dogs of any color or breed. Sorry you were one of the very rare cases that did have such a reaction, but it is irresponsible comments such as yours that fuel the fires of misinformation.

Please, if this is the information you were given from a Bayer employee, I would love to have a name or number and see that this is stopped, as it is patently false. I was not in on the "school yard talk", and I agree with you, but spreading this kind of misinformation is just as bad if you are trying to make a living selling legitimately and using the science we have.

Thank you, and I meant not to be rude, but we get enough of this from competitors who know better.

PS small light skinned, white haired dogs are most prevalently prone to reactions vs. any other breeds, just a fact of nature.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Gee Mr. Wizard, I don't know.

Of course you realize that no one really believes that your brother is allergic to eucalyptus. Your thread had no activity for two months and you needed a reason to try to slam the product again.

My brother is allergic to water. He better stay away from Merial vaccines!

you are a liar. The product smells like eucalyptus.Promeris does not contain eucalyptus you idiot. The spreading agent that allows it to go alll the way to the hind legs smells like eucalyptus. It is not like Frontline that only protects from ticks the neck area. Animal comes into the clinics with ticks attached to their hind quarters. Get a lifeeeeeeee

Originally Posted by Anonymous

you are a liar. The product smells like eucalyptus.Promeris does not contain eucalyptus you idiot. The spreading agent that allows it to go alll the way to the hind legs smells like eucalyptus. It is not like Frontline that only protects from ticks the neck area. Animal comes into the clinics with ticks attached to their hind quarters. Get a lifeeeeeeee

Dude, you need to go back to promeris school. Where the fuck did you get the idea that the product does not contain eucalyptus? I suggest you contact your DM for some education. You scare me.

Doesn't matter if it contains vanilla, it SMELLS LIKE SHIT!!!!!!!!! PERIOD, and if you argue that, you are are the depths of a denial not seen before by man. The shit stinks!!!!!! I have smelled it, and we had to get it out of the room it was that bad, and I have first hand knowledge of techs seeking medical attention due to reactions to Promeris. These are facts, not your regurgitated BS sales pitch, SMELLS LIKE SHIT!!!

No Promeris is not responsible for the disappearance of MN's facial hair. You will find his facial hair in CW's butt crack. It is amazing what friction will remove.

There is nothing in Snopes.com for flea prevention or for ProMeris (copied directly from this email). I am sending this on because this is very very serious.

Pat in So Central TX





Forwarding this from another group:

This is Jo and this is a very important message to my family &
friends who have dogs-cats--and to alert you to the hazard of using a
new Flea & Tick Preventative called ProMeris http://www.promeris .com/consumer/ .

This is a new product designed to be a more effective product than
other flea/tick treatments that was just released this year. It is
available thru a vet and not currently on-line. I got ProMeris this
week for my 7 dogs (6 Huskies & 1 Golden-Airedale) , and the
results were debilitating for nearly all of them-including me. Since my
incident this week, my vet has pulled it from distribution and alerted
the manufacturer, Fort Dodge.

Here are my results: Within less than 2 hours after applying, 4 of my
dogs had vomited from 2-4 times, 3 were disoriented and stumbling, 1
was dragging his back leg, 1 was salivating. I had very similar
symptoms like an allergic reaction-my lips were swollen, eyes very red,
mucous membranes such as eyes, nose, and mouth were stinging. I was
very disoriented- dizzy equilibrium and not able to drive. To make this
a short story-all 7 of my dogs were admitted to the hospital for
veterinarian care, and 3 of them remained for care, IV fluids and
observation for 24 hours. I was in the emergency room. I'm home now and
so are the dogs. We're all feeling much better. Vet bills were over
$2,500 and Fort Dodge is paying for these. Not only can the product
cause this reaction, it has a highly noxious odor that permeated the
house and is just starting to dissipate after 3 days.

Your dogs/cats might not have the same reaction, but given my
experience-I wanted to help you all become well-educated about the
product.

Cheryl Harrison
My Best Friend's Bowl
Because they count on you to choose wisely
www.mybestfriendsbo wl.com

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You scared little bitch...LOL, they all work just as well as they always have, if they don't why would they still be the leading sellers out there? You saying your vets are idiots?? Must be if they by from your ignorant ass. Go back and re read your own posts, and tell me what you draw from it. So, fuck you and your products and bring it on bitch, I'm the wheel in my territory, and you think you got what it takes, come get some, and I'll send your ass packing too. You fucking loud mouth loser, people like you that make job fun, lots easier when I have the competition of your level. Stop being an internet tough guy and step up you little bitch. Trying to win an argument on here is like winning a gold in the special olympics, you're still retarded, so I guess you win.

PS Vectra??? Are you fucking kidding me?? They can't give that shit away, and i is a damn sight better than pukemeris, fucking dipshit.

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH YOUR MOUTHS. YOU SOUND LIKE A BUNCH OF LOW CLASS IDIOTS TALKING LIKE THAT. THINGS CAN BE DISCUSSED WITHOUT CURSING.

I had received a similar email, the one I received had the same info in the body, however, it was a completely different "breeder". It is obvious that someone is sending these out to discredit the company for some reason. I use Frontline on both of my dogs without major problems. I see no reason to try anything else.

I came to this site to find real answers to a serious problem. I am very disappointed. I'll be sure to not look to this site for any information. I wish there was a way to delete these sites from the internet, or mark them as absurd and valueless.

Still looking for good info on flea meds.
Mar

Mar, why not talk to a few vets. They are the ones hearing from the pet owners and know which ones work and which ones have problems. That is the source that I would seek out.

O.K. HERE'S THE SKINNY. I AM AN EXPERIENCED VETERINARIAN 30 YEARS, CONSERVATIVE IN MY APPROACH. RECENT STUDIES CONFIRM THERE IS NO REDUCTION IN EFFICACY IN FRONTLINE OR ADVANTAGE. THERE IS NO RESISTANCE! I FIND IF A PRODUCT IS SAFE AND EFFECTIVE DON'T SWITCH. MANY PEOPLE WASH THEIR PET FIRST BEFORE APPLYING FL OR LEAVE IT IN THE HAIR INSTEAD OF GETTING IT DOWN TO THE SKIN. IF YOU APPLY IT RIGHT IT WORKS. IF YOU STILL HAVE A PROBLEM USE THE PROGRAM TABS CONCURRENTLY. NON TOXIC A BIT PRICY BUT WORKS TO BREAK THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE FLEA. PREVENTIC COLLARS WORK FOR TICKS. ACTIVE INGREDIENT IS AMITRAZ. SOME DOGS ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO TOXICITY SO WATCH CLOSELY. DO NOT APPLY AMITRAZ AND LOCK PET IN A CRATE AS IT DEFINITELY INCREASES THE RISK OF TOXICITY. I HAVE NOT USED PROMERIS, I HAVE NOTHING BAD TO SAY ABOUT IT BUT AGAIN IF SOMETHING WORKS WELL (AND THEY DO) ADV OR FL WHY SWITCH? FROM WHAT I SEE THE PROMERIS APPEARS TO HAVE A POTENTIALLY OBJECTIONABLE ODOR AND POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS. WHO CARES IF ITS EUCALYPTUS OR NOT AND WHY RISK ANY RXN WITH YOUR PET? PEOPLE IF YOU WORRY ABOUT USING HALF THE DOSE BECAUSE YOU DON'T TRUST THE PRODUCT HERE'S A LITTLE PEARL.....DON'T USE IT!!!!! I HAVE NOTHING TO GAIN. I USE FL AND APPRECIATE MY CLIENTS, THEIR FAMILIES, AND THEIR PETS!