Lovaza

Ex Reliant rep here and I was wondering how Lovaza has been going sice you guys took over. I am asking out of curiosity nothing more, nothing less. I hope its doing well but like I said I am asking out of curiosity

Lovaza is finally starting to pick up. Sadly, it appears many Reliant reps checked out mentally end of last year b/c your January numbers sucked so bad that it fed into our Feb reports.

It's sad how many docs still have wrong impressions about the drug. Makes you wonder what in the world the Reliant reps were doing (or not doing) during work hours.

Rep in NC

X-Reliant rep that was kept @ GSK here. The market shares around my area sharply fell first quarter. Probablly due to the way we were all treated by GSK. I know many, including myself, wern't working very hard to sell GSK products. Market share is now starting to pick up...but nothing like it was for me around this time last year...and I guarentee we will no longer be making the $20,000 bonuses we made eather. I miss Reliant!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lovaza is finally starting to pick up. Sadly, it appears many Reliant reps checked out mentally end of last year b/c your January numbers sucked so bad that it fed into our Feb reports.

It's sad how many docs still have wrong impressions about the drug. Makes you wonder what in the world the Reliant reps were doing (or not doing) during work hours.

Rep in NC

OUr numbers couldnt be that bad you fucking ass muncher we hit super bonus. You are right we didnt work, we just created a median 16 market share out of the clear blue and generated 300 million in 2 years. My only wish would be for GSK not to do any DTC and keep the formulary coverage the same and see what you fucking ass clowns can do. I made a lot of money selling lovaza for 2 years. My lowest payout was 12k and my highest 23k and thats per qtr in case you were wondering. No go fetch your shine box you puss nut

I agree. Reliant moved this product in single rep territories better than GSK can do with numerous rep territories

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OUr numbers couldnt be that bad you fucking ass muncher we hit super bonus. You are right we didnt work, we just created a median 16 market share out of the clear blue and generated 300 million in 2 years. My only wish would be for GSK not to do any DTC and keep the formulary coverage the same and see what you fucking ass clowns can do. I made a lot of money selling lovaza for 2 years. My lowest payout was 12k and my highest 23k and thats per qtr in case you were wondering. No go fetch your shine box you puss nut

Well said, I am a GSK rep and the numbers in my territory fell off. I know the Reliant rep was liked and part of it is my fault for not keeping him more involved and asking questions. I also read a study recently that said lowering trigs without raising HDL is a waste, you need to address both to be successful. Can not wait to see the fall out from that

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OUr numbers couldnt be that bad you fucking ass muncher we hit super bonus. You are right we didnt work, we just created a median 16 market share out of the clear blue and generated 300 million in 2 years. My only wish would be for GSK not to do any DTC and keep the formulary coverage the same and see what you fucking ass clowns can do. I made a lot of money selling lovaza for 2 years. My lowest payout was 12k and my highest 23k and thats per qtr in case you were wondering. No go fetch your shine box you puss nut

Let the results speak for themselves. Here's part of a news release by Pronova on the sales of Lovaza since GSK took over. It's only the beginning. By the way, no DTC and formulary coverage is even worse than what you had since a big insurance company in the southeast moved it to tier 3 ($100 copay). With all the success, I will agree that bonuses at GSK stink. There's no way that bonuses will be 20k+ per quarter for Lovaza. Here's the news realease:

By Jason Douglas
OF DOW JONES NEWSWIRES

LONDON -(Dow Jones)- Norwegian pharmaceuticals company Pronova BioPharma ASA (PRON.OS) Tuesday reported a 56% rise in sales of heart drug Lovaza in the first two months of the year, thanks to a fresh marketing push by new partner GlaxoSmithKline PLC (GSK.LN).

The U.K. drug maker gained control of the U.S. rights to Lovaza, sold in Europe as Omacor, when it bought Reliant Pharmaceuticals Inc. for $1.65 billion in November last year.

Pronova said Tuesday U.S. sales of the heart pill, which uses a highly-purified form of omega-3 obtained from fish oils, were supported by GlaxoSmithKline's February relaunch of the drug with a team of 1,500 sales reps.

Sales of Lovaza for the year to Feb. 29 were $102.8 million, compared to $65.9 million a year earlier.

Pronova said total number of prescriptions of Lovaza in the first quarter increased 50.2% compared to a year ago. It added at the end of April Lovaza had an 11.5% share of prescriptions for dyslipidemia, or high levels of fats in the blood, compared to 9.7% a year earlier.

The drug's share of new prescriptions for dyslipidemia, excluding statins like Pfizer Inc.'s (PFE) Lipitor, rose to 13.4% from 11.6% a year ago.

"This increased market presence is expected to further improve sales growth in the second quarter of the year," said Pronova Chief Executive Officer Tomas Settevik in a statement.

Lovaza? Sounds like a hairy hispanic whore I once knew!

Lovaza is a rip off. Just shows the true face of big pharma. There are supplement manufacturers using the same quality standarts pharmaceuticals have. There are supplements that are pharmaceutical grade and molecularly distilled to remove any remaining contamination. You can buy 430 epa and 300 dha per softgel for 22 dollars for 60 softgels online.

There is absolutely NO reason that it should cost the 99999$ GSK is chargin for it under the umbrella of insurance. NO WAY TO JUSTIFY IT. It just shows how greedy you guys are!!!

Why should someone spend 180$ when you can get the same quality for 5x less? BULLSHIT!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lovaza is a rip off. Just shows the true face of big pharma. There are supplement manufacturers using the same quality standarts pharmaceuticals have. There are supplements that are pharmaceutical grade and molecularly distilled to remove any remaining contamination. You can buy 430 epa and 300 dha per softgel for 22 dollars for 60 softgels online.

There is absolutely NO reason that it should cost the 99999$ GSK is chargin for it under the umbrella of insurance. NO WAY TO JUSTIFY IT. It just shows how greedy you guys are!!!

Why should someone spend 180$ when you can get the same quality for 5x less? BULLSHIT!

You are a dumb fuck, this is not a medicine that anyone should or will pay cash for but you get 120 capsules for a copay which is around the 22 bucks you mentioned for half the pills and less epa and dha. You would need to take 5 of those to equal 4 lovaza so now that bottle lasts 12 days so you need over 2.5 bottles a month for a cost of $55 a month which is more than most copays. Lets here your answer to this you piece of shit.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are a dumb fuck, this is not a medicine that anyone should or will pay cash for but you get 120 capsules for a copay which is around the 22 bucks you mentioned for half the pills and less epa and dha. You would need to take 5 of those to equal 4 lovaza so now that bottle lasts 12 days so you need over 2.5 bottles a month for a cost of $55 a month which is more than most copays. Lets here your answer to this you piece of shit.

Yes, I am the dumbass, MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ok first of all, just because you get to cover it under insurance does still not justify the price. It's a rip-off. Second of all, with prices like this you raise insurance premiums and IT STILL COSTS MONEY!! So just because you think insurance pays most of it....you think it's ok to rip them off?

DO you fucking think insurances get their money from nowhere? You don't think very well, do you?

You are a joke! OWNED. Now go back into your cave dumbass.

PS: 22$ is the RETAIL price. You sell it wholesale, don't you? If the company I mentioned decided to make a webpage and sell it wholesale online...they'd be able to charge 13$ for it.

Ask me which EPA/DHA I mean and I'll provide you with a link. I used to work for a retail supplement shop and know the wholesale prices.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lovaza? Sounds like a hairy hispanic whore I once knew!

I think she used to date DIRTY SANCHEZ

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, I am the dumbass, MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ok first of all, just because you get to cover it under insurance does still not justify the price. It's a rip-off. Second of all, with prices like this you raise insurance premiums and IT STILL COSTS MONEY!! So just because you think insurance pays most of it....you think it's ok to rip them off?

DO you fucking think insurances get their money from nowhere? You don't think very well, do you?

You are a joke! OWNED. Now go back into your cave dumbass.

PS: 22$ is the RETAIL price. You sell it wholesale, don't you? If the company I mentioned decided to make a webpage and sell it wholesale online...they'd be able to charge 13$ for it.

Ask me which EPA/DHA I mean and I'll provide you with a link. I used to work for a retail supplement shop and know the wholesale prices.

Damn he just got owned! That dumbshit really thinks it's ok to charge almost 200$ just because people get to pay a 22$ co-pay? BAHAHAHAHA! Dumbass, this raises insurance premiums. He really thinks money comes from nowhere! But wait! That's the whole scheme here!!!!!! Those frauds know that people won't think about where the 180$ co-pay comes from! Pretty clever.

The fact that you could charge about 6x times less and still make money (otherwise you wouldn't find those supplements) they still have to charge 200$ to make money. WOW!

You guys really are a joke! Know what? Just read the other post which should be around page 1 or 2! It's called "I laughed at the Omacor rep when demanded that I write his product". Just read it and get bitchslapped WACK WACK over and over again. You are THE example of how dumb reps are.

GULP GULP GULP the kool aid!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, I am the dumbass, MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ok first of all, just because you get to cover it under insurance does still not justify the price. It's a rip-off. Second of all, with prices like this you raise insurance premiums and IT STILL COSTS MONEY!! So just because you think insurance pays most of it....you think it's ok to rip them off?

DO you fucking think insurances get their money from nowhere? You don't think very well, do you?

You are a joke! OWNED. Now go back into your cave dumbass.

PS: 22$ is the RETAIL price. You sell it wholesale, don't you? If the company I mentioned decided to make a webpage and sell it wholesale online...they'd be able to charge 13$ for it.

Ask me which EPA/DHA I mean and I'll provide you with a link. I used to work for a retail supplement shop and know the wholesale prices.

Do you think lovaza is the only over priced drug on the market, every drug is over priced whats your point. Go sell your shit some where else

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Do you think lovaza is the only over priced drug on the market, every drug is over priced whats your point. Go sell your shit some where else

How's the kool aid taste? I'm glad you know what a rip-off Big Pharma is! Say hi to Mr. Goebbels for me! Oh I see, so after it's benefits has been known for well over 25 years, all of a sudden Big Pharma comes along and makes it a drug and overcharges for a shitload of dollars? People have been using Fish Oil for many many years with great success!'

Yes FISH OIL IS A DRUG! muhahahahahaha

Gulp Gulp Gulp the kool aid some more.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well said, I am a GSK rep and the numbers in my territory fell off. I know the Reliant rep was liked and part of it is my fault for not keeping him more involved and asking questions. I also read a study recently that said lowering trigs without raising HDL is a waste, you need to address both to be successful. Can not wait to see the fall out from that

Can you tell me what study you are talking about in regards to lowering TG's without raising HDL is a waste. I say prove it to me by giving me the name of the study and the author.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

How's the kool aid taste? I'm glad you know what a rip-off Big Pharma is! Say hi to Mr. Goebbels for me! Oh I see, so after it's benefits has been known for well over 25 years, all of a sudden Big Pharma comes along and makes it a drug and overcharges for a shitload of dollars? People have been using Fish Oil for many many years with great success!'

Yes FISH OIL IS A DRUG! muhahahahahaha

Gulp Gulp Gulp the kool aid some more.

Thats where you are wrong. 2 of my largest writers are lipid clinics. Before Omacor/Lovaza was out they had their patients taking supplements and kept track of the non progress they were making. For the crap you get in a store you need to take 12 to 18 to equal ours well those people wont take that much but once they started using LOvaza and got 35 to 50% reductions how can you argue with the results. Go piss in your kool aid and drink it asshole. The product works that is all that matters. Why dont you go and start working on the oil companies and there profits and the fucking over of everyone who owns a car

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats where you are wrong. 2 of my largest writers are lipid clinics. Before Omacor/Lovaza was out they had their patients taking supplements and kept track of the non progress they were making. For the crap you get in a store you need to take 12 to 18 to equal ours well those people wont take that much but once they started using LOvaza and got 35 to 50% reductions how can you argue with the results. Go piss in your kool aid and drink it asshole. The product works that is all that matters. Why dont you go and start working on the oil companies and there profits and the fucking over of everyone who owns a car

I was never talking about store bought ones. The ones at wal mart and stuff are crappy as shit. I was talking about the stuff from high quality manufacturers. There have been manufacturers using high quality stuff for quite some time now! GULP GULP GULP.

I still haven't heard anything which justifies the 190$ rip off.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats where you are wrong. 2 of my largest writers are lipid clinics. Before Omacor/Lovaza was out they had their patients taking supplements and kept track of the non progress they were making. For the crap you get in a store you need to take 12 to 18 to equal ours well those people wont take that much but once they started using LOvaza and got 35 to 50% reductions how can you argue with the results. Go piss in your kool aid and drink it asshole. The product works that is all that matters. Why dont you go and start working on the oil companies and there profits and the fucking over of everyone who owns a car

GULP GULP GULP. I'm pretty aware that Wal mart and other fish oils from mass stores are crappy as hell.

You can still find high quality manufacturers for..............alot less. I bought this one...........

It's from the north coast of Norway (cleanest shit you can get).......It's pharmaceutical grade...........it's molecularly distilled to remove remaining contaminants....

120 softgels---Coast of Norwegian fish oil---Molecularly Distilled---Meets USP standards---45 dollars.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBGJMC?...0&linkCode=asn

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the 45 dollars is RETAIL. Don't you get to sell it wholesale?? And yet you rip off for 200 dollars?????

GULP GULP GULP all day you drones!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Thats where you are wrong. 2 of my largest writers are lipid clinics. Before Omacor/Lovaza was out they had their patients taking supplements and kept track of the non progress they were making. For the crap you get in a store you need to take 12 to 18 to equal ours well those people wont take that much but once they started using LOvaza and got 35 to 50% reductions how can you argue with the results. Go piss in your kool aid and drink it asshole. The product works that is all that matters. Why dont you go and start working on the oil companies and there profits and the fucking over of everyone who owns a car

Wow, I'm a rep who works for a nutraceutical company and this gotta be a joke, right? You charge 170$ for 120 softgels of Fish Oil AND get insurance coverage so patients don't complain? This gotta be the hoax of the century. And no, your fish oil is not better. I've been selling fish oil for WAAAY cheaper than that. You charge like 6x the amount. And yes, the fish oil I helped sell was top-notch and also molecularly distilled for purification. We got Fish Oil from the north coast of Norway and produced the final product in a cGMP, FDA registered, state of the art facility. This must be a joke.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Yes, I am the dumbass, MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Ok first of all, just because you get to cover it under insurance does still not justify the price. It's a rip-off. Second of all, with prices like this you raise insurance premiums and IT STILL COSTS MONEY!! So just because you think insurance pays most of it....you think it's ok to rip them off?

DO you fucking think insurances get their money from nowhere? You don't think very well, do you?

You are a joke! OWNED. Now go back into your cave dumbass.

PS: 22$ is the RETAIL price. You sell it wholesale, don't you? If the company I mentioned decided to make a webpage and sell it wholesale online...they'd be able to charge 13$ for it.

Ask me which EPA/DHA I mean and I'll provide you with a link. I used to work for a retail supplement shop and know the wholesale prices.

The FDA does not inspect the plants of over the counter medicines so you don't know what is in your 13 cent pill.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The FDA does not inspect the plants of over the counter medicines so you don't know what is in your 13 cent pill.

I'm in a hurry and have to go. But I'll make a post and bitchslap you later. You shouldn't have said this.........prepare.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

The FDA does not inspect the plants of over the counter medicines so you don't know what is in your 13 cent pill.

You have to look for these words when you buy fish oil: cGMP (current Good Manufacturing Practices), Pharmaceutical Grade, and it's always safe to buy from a manufacturer producing in a FDA registered manufacturing plant.

Undisputable Fact #1: You can get the same quality fish oil, without prescription, from supplement manufacturers.

Undisputable Fact #2: The same supplement manufacturers that have the same quality standards as pharmaceuticals are somehow able to charge 9x less and still make money (otherwise they wouldn't do it).

Just because your manager tells you that all supplements are dirty, doesn't mean it's true!

United States Pharmacopeia (USP)

The USP provides assurance to the consumer, as well as those involved in manufacturing and processing, that the quality and purity of the raw materials utilized are of pharmaceutical grade. Consequently, the USP guarantees a certain standard of excellence sold only through physicians and selected pharmacies.

Source: FDA.gov


Keep drinking the kool-aid..........gulp gulp gulp
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Wack! Wack! Kabuff! Do you really enjoy being bitchslapped?

WEEE! I can still see the red marks on his face!

Check out this one:

120 softgels for 45 dollars.........RETAIL!!!! Imagine, they could sell it wholesale for 23 dollars online if they didn't have a contract with retailers!!!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBGJMC?...89&camp=211189

- It meets USP standards for purity and quality
- Our OrthOmega meets the strictest international trade criteria for trace heavy metal and pesticide concentrations.
- Burp-Free. Many complain of burping after taking other fish oils.
- molecularly distilled

Just noticed that it doesn't show you the amount of EPA and DHA....here ya go.

420epa and 300dha

http://coastherbal.com/product_info.php/products_id/801

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Somehow these guys are the same quality as Big Pharma and charge 4x less......RETAIL!!!!!!!

Imagine them not having a contract with retailers...........sell the same quality fish oil for 8x less.

RIP OFF RIP OFF RIP OFF

SLAP SLAP SLAP in YOUR FACE!!!

Down with kool aid drinkers.............choke choke choke

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Check out this one:

120 softgels for 45 dollars.........RETAIL!!!! Imagine, they could sell it wholesale for 23 dollars online if they didn't have a contract with retailers!!!

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000UBGJMC?...89&camp=211189

- It meets USP standards for purity and quality
- Our OrthOmega meets the strictest international trade criteria for trace heavy metal and pesticide concentrations.
- Burp-Free. Many complain of burping after taking other fish oils.
- molecularly distilled

Just noticed that it doesn't show you the amount of EPA and DHA....here ya go.

420epa and 300dha

http://coastherbal.com/product_info.php/products_id/801

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Somehow these guys are the same quality as Big Pharma and charge 4x less......RETAIL!!!!!!!

Imagine them not having a contract with retailers...........sell the same quality fish oil for 8x less.

RIP OFF RIP OFF RIP OFF

SLAP SLAP SLAP in YOUR FACE!!!

There's no point in arguing with you guys. It's like talking to a tree. For the open minded, you have to ask yourselves this question. Why is Lovaza doing so well? If it's a hoax, then patients are going to see the dumbest people on the planet for their healthcare? The doctors that we call on must be drinking the koolaid by the gallons. The patients that buy Lovaza must not see all of the fish oil on the shelves when they go to their pharmacy, Sam's Club or Supermarket. I'm sure if they read the labels, they all know what they are looking at. Some labels say to take 2 capsules daily. Some say to take 4 daily. But, all of the labels say the claims they make have not been FDA certified (ie no clinical trials, proof, etc). There are probably dozens of Omega 3 manufacturers. Some use quality material. Some use sub-standard material (along with fillers). Bottom line, confusion leads to inaction. Inaction leads to a patient not improving their health.

Here's a scenario that plays out all the time in a medical office. Physician tells a patient that trigs are very high and they need to start taking fish oil. Patient goes to the pharmacy, picks up a bottle and starts taking a capsult once per day. Three months later, trigs are rechecked and they have improved any. They saved some money but now their doctor is convinced fish oil doesn't work and the patient needs to be on dangerous medicine like a fenofibrate. Is that what you want?

When a doctor prescribes Lovaza, they are prescribing a clinically tested, consistently manufactured, and proven efficacious capsule. In other words, both the physician and the patient knows exactly what the patient is going to swallow everyday. And, as a result, they know what results to expect. Lovaza is expensive. All medicine is expensive (yes, Lovaza is a real medicine and not a dietary supplement - that's the stuff you get off the shelf). If a patient has insurance, they can get Lovaza for $22-$50. If not, physicians won't prescribe it. Bottom line, if a physician is insistent on cheap stuff in the pharmacy, I encourage them to have the patient try it. If it doesn't work (and most of the time it doesn't because of the reasons above), they prescribe Lovaza.

So, is Lovaza a hoax? Lovaza is a scientifically proven medicine that does what it is supposed to do. Doctors know the benefits of it. They know the cost of it. They know - period. So, no, Lovaza is not a hoax. It's an expensive medicine that works well.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Lovaza is a rip off. Just shows the true face of big pharma. There are supplement manufacturers using the same quality standarts pharmaceuticals have. There are supplements that are pharmaceutical grade and molecularly distilled to remove any remaining contamination. You can buy 430 epa and 300 dha per softgel for 22 dollars for 60 softgels online.

There is absolutely NO reason that it should cost the 99999$ GSK is chargin for it under the umbrella of insurance. NO WAY TO JUSTIFY IT. It just shows how greedy you guys are!!!

Why should someone spend 180$ when you can get the same quality for 5x less? BULLSHIT!

You are an idiot! There is no such thing as pharmaceutical grade! it is a pharmaceutica or its not. It is a drug or its food. Its easy to JUSTIFY is your not a idiot!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot! There is no such thing as pharmaceutical grade! it is a pharmaceutica or its not. It is a drug or its food. Its easy to JUSTIFY is your not a idiot!

Apparently you don't read very well, or you must be joking. Here it is again!

United States Pharmacopeia (USP)

The USP provides assurance to the consumer, as well as those involved in manufacturing and processing, that the quality and purity of the raw materials utilized are of pharmaceutical grade. Consequently, the USP guarantees a certain standard of excellence sold only through physicians and selected pharmacies.

Source: FDA.gov

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Originally Posted by Anonymous

There's no point in arguing with you guys. It's like talking to a tree. For the open minded, you have to ask yourselves this question. Why is Lovaza doing so well? If it's a hoax, then patients are going to see the dumbest people on the planet for their healthcare? The doctors that we call on must be drinking the koolaid by the gallons. The patients that buy Lovaza must not see all of the fish oil on the shelves when they go to their pharmacy, Sam's Club or Supermarket. I'm sure if they read the labels, they all know what they are looking at. Some labels say to take 2 capsules daily. Some say to take 4 daily. But, all of the labels say the claims they make have not been FDA certified (ie no clinical trials, proof, etc). There are probably dozens of Omega 3 manufacturers. Some use quality material. Some use sub-standard material (along with fillers). Bottom line, confusion leads to inaction. Inaction leads to a patient not improving their health.

Here's a scenario that plays out all the time in a medical office. Physician tells a patient that trigs are very high and they need to start taking fish oil. Patient goes to the pharmacy, picks up a bottle and starts taking a capsult once per day. Three months later, trigs are rechecked and they have improved any. They saved some money but now their doctor is convinced fish oil doesn't work and the patient needs to be on dangerous medicine like a fenofibrate. Is that what you want?

When a doctor prescribes Lovaza, they are prescribing a clinically tested, consistently manufactured, and proven efficacious capsule. In other words, both the physician and the patient knows exactly what the patient is going to swallow everyday. And, as a result, they know what results to expect. Lovaza is expensive. All medicine is expensive (yes, Lovaza is a real medicine and not a dietary supplement - that's the stuff you get off the shelf). If a patient has insurance, they can get Lovaza for $22-$50. If not, physicians won't prescribe it. Bottom line, if a physician is insistent on cheap stuff in the pharmacy, I encourage them to have the patient try it. If it doesn't work (and most of the time it doesn't because of the reasons above), they prescribe Lovaza.

So, is Lovaza a hoax? Lovaza is a scientifically proven medicine that does what it is supposed to do. Doctors know the benefits of it. They know the cost of it. They know - period. So, no, Lovaza is not a hoax. It's an expensive medicine that works well.

You brainwashed fucking moron. Are you a DM or RM or something? I wasn't talking about store bought..........I was talking about high quality shit, ok? Not stuff from Wal Mart!!!! Do you have any reading comprehension???? There is only that high quality fish oil can go.........in the end there is only about 3 main manufacturers to buy from.............then it is being molecularly distilled in an FDA registered facility and USP! Don't tell the BS that Lovaza is better, it's not!

NO WAY YOU CAN JUSTIFY THE 700% + price increase! NO FUCKING WAY! I never said it was a HOAX MR. DM Spinners........I said the PRICE is a HUGE rip off!!

Nice try though, but the word is OUT!

I launched Omacor and then transitioned to the name change of Lovaza back in June 2007. It is a great, efficacious, safe and all natural, drug to sell. Concerning the cost issue let's look at it logically. Insurance companies would not place Lovaza on Tier 2 or 3 if it did not work and if the P&T committee did not agree with the clinicially proven superiority of Lovaza over other dietary supplements. Insurance companies are out to make money no loose money, would U agree? U must be saying that insurance companies are STUPID?? is that what U are saying??? sounds like it to me..... :-)
I look forward to reading your intelligent reply......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I launched Omacor and then transitioned to the name change of Lovaza back in June 2007. It is a great, efficacious, safe and all natural, drug to sell. Concerning the cost issue let's look at it logically. Insurance companies would not place Lovaza on Tier 2 or 3 if it did not work and if the P&T committee did not agree with the clinicially proven superiority of Lovaza over other dietary supplements. Insurance companies are out to make money no loose money, would U agree? U must be saying that insurance companies are STUPID?? is that what U are saying??? sounds like it to me..... :-)
I look forward to reading your intelligent reply......

What a brainwash you are! In the END fish oil IS fish oil. There is a limit how much better it can be. And of course you can't compare Costco or Walmart fish oil with Lovaza.................you can't compare it with the one I posted either!

You can choose 180$ and rip off insurances and raise premiums..........or you can buy 45 dollars RETAIL. I won't argue anymore. It's fukking hilarious! Look at the pharma people going along calling everything natural QUACK and a HOAX.........then they come along and praise it as the new cure!

You could make a nice profit selling it for 30$........otherwise the company I posted (there are many others) wouldn't sell it for around that price wholesale (the 120 softgel one).

You can spin and twist all you want.........the high price with insurance coverage is simply a well-thought plan to rip people off that don't think before they buy.

I'm done posting here.........it's simply useless to debate with pharma drones!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What a brainwash you are! In the END fish oil IS fish oil. There is a limit how much better it can be. And of course you can't compare Costco or Walmart fish oil with Lovaza.................you can't compare it with the one I posted either!

You can choose 180$ and rip off insurances and raise premiums..........or you can buy 45 dollars RETAIL. I won't argue anymore. It's fukking hilarious! Look at the pharma people going along calling everything natural QUACK and a HOAX.........then they come along and praise it as the new cure!

You could make a nice profit selling it for 30$........otherwise the company I posted (there are many others) wouldn't sell it for around that price wholesale (the 120 softgel one).

You can spin and twist all you want.........the high price with insurance coverage is simply a well-thought plan to rip people off that don't think before they buy.

I'm done posting here.........it's simply useless to debate with pharma drones!

Slam Dunk brother! If you could make a patent on natural compounds and substances PHARMA would be the first to take over the whole supplement market!

Just take simvastatin for example. It's the same compound as red yeast rice...just slightly altered to make a patent. You can get the SAME benefit from natural red yeast rice.......with less side effects!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Slam Dunk brother! If you could make a patent on natural compounds and substances PHARMA would be the first to take over the whole supplement market!

Just take simvastatin for example. It's the same compound as red yeast rice...just slightly altered to make a patent. You can get the SAME benefit from natural red yeast rice.......with less side effects!

lawl. so true. plus you can get red yeast rice for about 10x less. yea, there are supplement manufacturers with very high quality standards were you can be sure you actually get what's on the bottle. And still pharma doesn't care about patients or ripping them off.....they care about the stockholders! So insead of selling red yeast rice........they alter it and call it a drug.........and charge 10x the amount. Of course mainstream people who trust authoritive sources will not even know that it's the same compound as red yeast rice and is available alot cheaper!

I posted # 31 and noone has addressed the issue of insurance companies who are willing to place Lovaza on Tier 2 or 3. Come on U brainiacs answer the question straight forward if U have the balls and the brains.... :-)
maybe this topic is toooooooooo far advanced for your understanding......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I posted # 31 and noone has addressed the issue of insurance companies who are willing to place Lovaza on Tier 2 or 3. Come on U brainiacs answer the question straight forward if U have the balls and the brains.... :-)
maybe this topic is toooooooooo far advanced for your understanding......

Dude.......get some reading comprehension. Your lovaza is NOT better than the stuff I posted (just a tad bit stronger). I don't care that the FDA, Insurance Companies and Big Pharma have a gay thing for each other.

Of course it works! The price is the issue! The one I posted works just as well!

Once the highest capability of clean fish oil have been reached and purified it's as simple as this........

fish oil = fish oil = fish oil...................

YOU ARE A JOKE!

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This guys right.. We should trust all those wonderful products that we can find on the internet or on late nite tv!!!! Very reputable sources its not like anyone ever makes anything up on the internet or anything... The margin on LOVAZA is not as large as you would expect the process is expensive and its purchased expensively from pronova. Wake up you idiots you have a gold mine on your hands. Embrace it and go make some fucking money morons.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Dude.......get some reading comprehension. Your lovaza is NOT better than the stuff I posted (just a tad bit stronger). I don't care that the FDA, Insurance Companies and Big Pharma have a gay thing for each other.

Of course it works! The price is the issue! The one I posted works just as well!

Once the highest capability of clean fish oil have been reached and purified it's as simple as this........

fish oil = fish oil = fish oil...................

YOU ARE A JOKE!

Thread CLOSED!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

This guys right.. We should trust all those wonderful products that we can find on the internet or on late nite tv!!!! Very reputable sources its not like anyone ever makes anything up on the internet or anything... The margin on LOVAZA is not as large as you would expect the process is expensive and its purchased expensively from pronova. Wake up you idiots you have a gold mine on your hands. Embrace it and go make some fucking money morons.

Dude YOU ARE BRAINWASHED! It's right in front of your eyes! The one I posted I the cleanest shit you can get.....CLEAN! Do you know that USP means that the FDA actually checked and verified it's purity? That company has no reason to lie about it........when supplement companies lie, they are not given a 100 chances like pharma companies to keep their product on the market........ITS BANNED INSTANTLY!

Your cause is lost Mr. GSK DM. The word is out!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are a dumb fuck, this is not a medicine that anyone should or will pay cash for but you get 120 capsules for a copay which is around the 22 bucks you mentioned for half the pills and less epa and dha. You would need to take 5 of those to equal 4 lovaza so now that bottle lasts 12 days so you need over 2.5 bottles a month for a cost of $55 a month which is more than most copays. Lets here your answer to this you piece of shit.

I used to use that same bullshit when I sold the POS drug. Oh it was so easy to sell but what a load of shit it was. (or should I say, soft oily stool.)

Hey doc look we lowered TG over 500 in 20 active pts in two seperate studies. Theres some fucking science. Oh no HDL's arn't important. Oh no, doc don't use it under 500 because it is virturaly worthless. Oh and the dirty little secret is that fish oil ALWAYS raises LDL. But now let me BS you with my partical size speal.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Apparently you don't read very well, or you must be joking. Here it is again!

United States Pharmacopeia (USP)

The USP provides assurance to the consumer, as well as those involved in manufacturing and processing, that the quality and purity of the raw materials utilized are of pharmaceutical grade. Consequently, the USP guarantees a certain standard of excellence sold only through physicians and selected pharmacies.

Source: FDA.gov

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I read very well. Again, There is NO pharmaceutical grade. Its a pharmaceutical or its not. You must beleive the Bow Flex add too. If you buy it you will look like the guy in the add in just two weeks. Dumb Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!

If price is the real issue.........how much are other branded pharmaceutical trig lowing meds? Would you rather pay for TriCor or Lovaza? There is only one intelegent answer. They are all $$$$. How much is NiaSpan?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I read very well. Again, There is NO pharmaceutical grade. Its a pharmaceutical or its not. You must beleive the Bow Flex add too. If you buy it you will look like the guy in the add in just two weeks. Dumb Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!

You are a helpless brainwashed pharma drone. And here it is once again. I'll make sure you see what the source is.

United States Pharmacopeia (USP)

The USP provides assurance to the consumer, as well as those involved in manufacturing and processing, that the quality and purity of the raw materials utilized are of PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE. Consequently, the USP guarantees a certain standard of excellence sold only through physicians and selected pharmacies.

AND HERE IS THE SOURCE!! WWW.FDA.GOV

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are a helpless brainwashed pharma drone. And here it is once again. I'll make sure you see what the source is.

United States Pharmacopeia (USP)

The USP provides assurance to the consumer, as well as those involved in manufacturing and processing, that the quality and purity of the raw materials utilized are of PHARMACEUTICAL GRADE. Consequently, the USP guarantees a certain standard of excellence sold only through physicians and selected pharmacies.

AND HERE IS THE SOURCE!! WWW.FDA.GOV

You are an idiot. Pharmaceutical grade is a marketing term. If it is a pharmaceutical it is.........if its not its not! If its a dietary sup its food! What dont you get?: If it is pharmaceutical "grade" then its a pharmaceutical.........not a look a like!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You are an idiot. Pharmaceutical grade is a marketing term. If it is a pharmaceutical it is.........if its not its not! If its a dietary sup its food! What dont you get?: If it is pharmaceutical "grade" then its a pharmaceutical.........not a look a like!

Pharmaceutical Grade does not mean it's a pharmaceutical. It means that the quality of the raw material and the product itself are CLEAN as though they were a pharmaceutical. In this case it means that the FDA inspected it. Are you really that helpless? I think you are just trying to troll me into replying again, nobody is that dumb. Bye Bye.

Source: fda.gov

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Wow I just googled this thread. I had no idea we ripped people off this bad.

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HEY DRUG DUDES, i'm a guy on disability. i take a shit load of drugs trying to beat cholsteral and trygiserides. cost is killin me. nothin cheap out there??? goin to canada for some . newest for me is lovasa got any ideas where to shop for best price???? any help appreciated!!! no i'm not a butt muncher either. u guys crack me up. later gary

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I read very well. Again, There is NO pharmaceutical grade. Its a pharmaceutical or its not. You must beleive the Bow Flex add too. If you buy it you will look like the guy in the add in just two weeks. Dumb Fuck!!!!!!!!!!!

ad...not add - I gotta side with the other guy, I think you're the dumb fuck.

To all posting here re: Lovaza. FDA does NOT regulate any supplements such as vitamins, otc diet aids, etc. Advertisements of these products typically contain wording to the tune of "the FDA has not reviewed these statements" so manufacturers can claim anything they want to. Lovaza has been studied, and has shown to be efficacious, safe, and it has been reviewed/approved by the FDA..period.

Sick of everyones concern about the cost of medicine, which ultimately helps to keep people healthy and out of the hospital where they would truly drive healthcare costs up even further.

Why dont you folks who keep screaming about the cost of meds complain about something more important such as the price of gas, food, budget deficits, or better yet, about all of the illegals who are here who are gettng free healthcare, education, housing vouchers, food stamps, etc. ?? Just a thought.

And if you dont like working in Pharma, then leave. See you in the field

Originally Posted by Anonymous

To all posting here re: Lovaza. FDA does NOT regulate any supplements such as vitamins, otc diet aids, etc. Advertisements of these products typically contain wording to the tune of "the FDA has not reviewed these statements" so manufacturers can claim anything they want to. Lovaza has been studied, and has shown to be efficacious, safe, and it has been reviewed/approved by the FDA..period.

Sick of everyones concern about the cost of medicine, which ultimately helps to keep people healthy and out of the hospital where they would truly drive healthcare costs up even further.

Why dont you folks who keep screaming about the cost of meds complain about something more important such as the price of gas, food, budget deficits, or better yet, about all of the illegals who are here who are gettng free healthcare, education, housing vouchers, food stamps, etc. ?? Just a thought.

And if you dont like working in Pharma, then leave. See you in the field

Please slow down on the kool aid. All this thread has proven is that you can produce very high quality fish oil without overcharging by the likes of 700%. And yes you are right, the FDA does not have as much controll over the quality of dietary supplements as they have over pharmaceutical drugs.

Does this mean every supplement is dirty? No. Like the one posted before. Just look at it. There are more and more supplement manufacturers using high standards.

Many supplement manufacturers actually register with the FDA, which means that FDA agents do surpirse visits to the facilities, and have approved it's high quality. cGMP verification also confirms the cleanliness of supplements. But I don't think your managers ever tell you these things. They just want you to think that every supplement is dirty and you have the right to overcharge, just because you are a god sent, "ethical" pharmaceutical company, LMAO!

Quality never was an issue, my friend. I bet Lovaza is a top-notch product. It's the price you should think about.

And isn't it awesome that the FDA is in such cahoots with pharma? The revolving doors are fascinating. Also isn't it quite hypocritical that after 25 years of independed research by universities and independend scientists.....along comes big pharma, smells the profit and will take the whole market?

I'm very happy that mainstream society is becoming more and more aware of who the real "quacks" are, the pharma companies.