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  #101  
Old 03-07-2012, 07:40 PM
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Wow, touchy, touchy. So routine supply will make them mad? Performance based discounts will piss them off? A big DTC campaign that will send patients in asking for the vaccines will push them over a cliff?

i'm not rocket scientist like you, but i think 2012 could be a descent year for once with Zostavax....for those who have been with this vaccine since launch, they know what I mean.
Go ask all your retail pharmacists how much Zostavax they are sitting on from last year and then add the 2012 80% growth on top of that. We shall see if this will be a decent (respectable) year for Zostavax or a descent (downward) year for Zostavax. You stated, "i think 2012 will be a descent year" so maybe you are not too optimistic or you just don't know how to spell.
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Old 03-08-2012, 10:34 AM
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Go ask all your retail pharmacists how much Zostavax they are sitting on from last year and then add the 2012 80% growth on top of that. We shall see if this will be a decent (respectable) year for Zostavax or a descent (downward) year for Zostavax. You stated, "i think 2012 will be a descent year" so maybe you are not too optimistic or you just don't know how to spell.
Good catch on the typo....maybe its a subliminal message.

Not sure what's going on in your area, but my pharmacies have doses from last year, but not a ton. Some of the chains ordered a lot, but they're big boys and girls who made that decision and we got credit for those doses last year and that's showing up in my bonus next week. maybe i'm an outlier, but i think these doses will move and if the DTC campaign is effective i just need to get my customers to have the right conversation with patients who are asking about the vaccine.

i alos agree with some of the other posts...it would be easier if we were still in PC and PED - there is plenty of work to go around!
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Old 03-08-2012, 03:26 PM
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Good catch on the typo....maybe its a subliminal message.

Not sure what's going on in your area, but my pharmacies have doses from last year, but not a ton. Some of the chains ordered a lot, but they're big boys and girls who made that decision and we got credit for those doses last year and that's showing up in my bonus next week. maybe i'm an outlier, but i think these doses will move and if the DTC campaign is effective i just need to get my customers to have the right conversation with patients who are asking about the vaccine.

i alos agree with some of the other posts...it would be easier if we were still in PC and PED - there is plenty of work to go around!
O.P. here. Not trying to be a hater and that's cool your retail pharmacies are moving doses. However, I have talked others who have some chains that ordered a ton in 2011 and are still sitting on a lot this year. We are being pulled in so many directions right now its hard to focus on retail pharmacies, pc offices and pediatrics. We were aligned just fine before the multi- specialty role but some people wanted to shake things up to look good at our expense. We work harder not smarter and it should be the other way around.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:23 PM
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The tablet chuckers merely looked at MVD as a place to dig in their claws and look what happened.
They keep trying out new pilot programs and trying to expand more mgam type positions so that more management from USHH can escape and exploit vaccines even further. USHH is about dead from tablet incompetence virus (TIV) and the virus has spread to vaccines.
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Old 03-10-2012, 01:26 PM
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Until all three are officially gone, this thread will keep coming back too. Mike, Margie and Alina, the axis of evil to MVD. Anyone beg to differ?
I think the thread needs to stay so history doesn't repeat itself. Oh wait, we have the little rascals now which is just a younger and dumber version of the original three. We are truly doomed.
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Old 03-12-2012, 09:30 PM
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With Singulair going off patent, I can smell another needless vaccine expansion, then optimization within two years. Merck never bothers to learn from it's mistakes. They just keep making bigger ones every chance they get.
The MGAM role may be expanded so that more managers can find safe haven if there are more layoffs, so Merck hasn't learned its lesson. What a shame.
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Old 03-15-2012, 01:24 AM
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The little rascals are driving drunk. Just sit on the side and watch them panic as the year progresses and the objectives are falling more and more beyond their reach.
The panic is starting. The nation is below plan for Zostavax already and pressure is coming from above to move last years doses that are still sitting in fridges.
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Old 03-17-2012, 12:38 PM
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The panic is starting. The nation is below plan for Zostavax already and pressure is coming from above to move last years doses that are still sitting in fridges.
Typical Merck. An executive decision is made to oversell the retail pharmacies without any realistic sales input and the field gets blamed. This is comical how bad this current leadership has scewed things up. They are actually moving at a faster pace than the stooges.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:39 PM
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The panic is starting. The nation is below plan for Zostavax already and pressure is coming from above to move last years doses that are still sitting in fridges.
No concrete plan to defend Pneumovax 23 or MMRII from competition. Yeah, dragging your heals on a plan to defend against vaccine competition is really going to help the division to meet the goal of 10 billion by 2020. Let me guess, are you going to hire yet another consulting firm to bail you out? Monitor and Partners In Leadership are already making millions off of Merck.

I couldn't make this next part up. The Monitor Group who provides consultation services for Merck also provided services for M. Gaddafi between 2006 and 2008. Google for yourself if you don't believe. Apparently, Monitor specializes in making dictatorships appear to look better than they really are. How sad is that?
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:54 PM
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Strategic planning seems to be still another thing that left with the MVD people. I don't recall panic mode, disorganization, or folks leading who were clueless about exactly what they were leading us into.
Contract and VFC knowledge is at an all time low as well. Backstabbing, brown nosing and b.s. business plans with few customer interactions is the sad norm now.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:33 PM
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Contract and VFC knowledge is at an all time low as well. Backstabbing, brown nosing and b.s. business plans with few customer interactions is the sad norm now.
I have heard leadership under Alina say MVD was asleep at the wheel when they were in charge. Then, we have retarded drunken monkeys driving MVID into a drainage ditch now.
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Old 03-25-2012, 11:53 PM
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Good catch on the typo....maybe its a subliminal message.

Not sure what's going on in your area, but my pharmacies have doses from last year, but not a ton. Some of the chains ordered a lot, but they're big boys and girls who made that decision and we got credit for those doses last year and that's showing up in my bonus next week. maybe i'm an outlier, but i think these doses will move and if the DTC campaign is effective i just need to get my customers to have the right conversation with patients who are asking about the vaccine.

i alos agree with some of the other posts...it would be easier if we were still in PC and PED - there is plenty of work to go around!
Pfizer is going after thought leaders and hospital P&T committees to con them into believing Prevnar 13 is a better adult vaccine than Pneuomvax 23. GSK is revamping it's VPA and putting more boots on the ground to grow their pediatric franchise with their MMR coming out end of this year.

What is Merck doing? Trying to sell us on a new Oz culture, distracting us with meetings where EVERYBODY has to speak up or get a PIP, forcing us to create over written strategy plans and ensuring we stay ludicrously laser focused on one vaccine Zostavax. How is it working out? Culture sucks, reps disenchanted and we are way behind on Zostavax. MVID's plan to win is failing. What a slow agonizing trainwreck this is.
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Old 03-29-2012, 12:36 AM
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Pfizer is going after thought leaders and hospital P&T committees to con them into believing Prevnar 13 is a better adult vaccine than Pneuomvax 23. GSK is revamping it's VPA and putting more boots on the ground to grow their pediatric franchise with their MMR coming out end of this year.

What is Merck doing? Trying to sell us on a new Oz culture, distracting us with meetings where EVERYBODY has to speak up or get a PIP, forcing us to create over written strategy plans and ensuring we stay ludicrously laser focused on one vaccine Zostavax. How is it working out? Culture sucks, reps disenchanted and we are way behind on Zostavax. MVID's plan to win is failing. What a slow agonizing trainwreck this is.
Don't forget outsourcing rep positions to inVentive or rely more heavily on wholesalers.
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Old 03-31-2012, 08:09 PM
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The MGAM role may be expanded so that more managers can find safe haven if there are more layoffs, so Merck hasn't learned its lesson. What a shame.
Even worse, most of the reps know more about vaccines and contracts than these MGAMs do and they get paid a lot more. Morale is so low here because we are top heavy with idiots in management looking out for themselves .
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Old 04-03-2012, 09:04 PM
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That's because MVID is top heavy with inexperienced idiots that are full of themselves but empty on vaccine knowledge. The Little Rascals are awful!
The fact that the ignorant rascals may be influencing Todd who knows nothing about vaccines means things are going to get much worse.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:56 PM
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The panic is starting. The nation is below plan for Zostavax already and pressure is coming from above to move last years doses that are still sitting in fridges.
If this dtc campaign doesn't help out, heads are going to roll.
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Old 04-11-2012, 06:39 PM
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If this dtc campaign doesn't help out, heads are going to roll.
As long as they start rolling from up top.
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Old 04-14-2012, 01:56 PM
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As long as they start rolling from up top.
I wish. Dr. Gerberding and Todd Nichols are still new and naive with the little rascals also being new and completely stupid. What a mess.
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Old 04-14-2012, 02:03 PM
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The fact that the ignorant rascals may be influencing Todd who knows nothing about vaccines means things are going to get much worse.
Case in point, the 2012 Zostavax numbers. If they would have listened to the field, maybe retail pharmacies wouldn't still be overstocked. Thanks for killing the alleged adult vaccine potential. You want to move doses, lower the price.
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Old 04-14-2012, 04:05 PM
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This, along with DTC, should help
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...798804224.html
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:53 PM
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Not really. Merck is grasping for straws. If we don't make plan there will be layoffs.
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Old 04-22-2012, 11:22 AM
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There are lots of qualified people but unfortunately they are all working for the competition or in other lines of work these days. MVD was a great place to be. MVID stings when you pee.
Monotone Mike Thomas must be gloating over the possibilities of how he is going to steal the ped business for GSK while Merck is super taser laser focused on Zostavax, corporate lingo (level set, above/below the line, low hanging fruit) and Oz Principles crap.
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Old 04-25-2012, 09:08 AM
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Big Hair Todd and The Little Rascals have no clue what they are doing and MVID is in a state of chaos because of it.
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Old 04-26-2012, 08:57 AM
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Big Hair Todd and The Little Rascals have no clue what they are doing and MVID is in a state of chaos because of it.
This brat pack is destroying MVID much faster than the stooges. It appears the younger the management team, the dumber they are.
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Old 04-26-2012, 10:03 AM
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This brat pack is destroying MVID much faster than the stooges. It appears the younger the management team, the dumber they are.
Why not, they have no experience. You guys are really screwed because vaccines were all Merck had left. Merck is going to have to add another legion of attorneys to handle the bankruptcy that is forth coming. I hate to say that due to the fact I need Merck to be successfull for financial reasons.
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Old 04-28-2012, 12:11 AM
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Monotone Mike Thomas must be gloating over the possibilities of how he is going to steal the ped business for GSK while Merck is super taser laser focused on Zostavax, corporate lingo (level set, above/below the line, low hanging fruit) and Oz Principles crap.
You figure that what they didn't get from our continual shortages they will get from policies and inaction of our idiotic non-leadership.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:47 PM
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This brat pack is destroying MVID much faster than the stooges. It appears the younger the management team, the dumber they are.
which is why they are know known as the little rascals
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:12 PM
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The new Stooges movie sucked too.
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Old 04-30-2012, 08:58 PM
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Only three stooges? Don't forget Moonha Banji and Franky Tomato
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Old 05-03-2012, 10:02 AM
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Mike, Margie and Alina completely shook up everything great about this organization and shook out a lot of the talent that made it a great place to be. So what if the stooges, brought in masses and masses of overly analytical go getters and head bobbers with the call, frequency, and reach garbage. Does this division bring in more dollars now? Yes. However at what cost did all of these profits come in? Many of the people they brought over had inept people skills or an inferiority complex that only could be satisfied with a lot of brown nosing and saying yes to everything without question. Instead of building strong relationships with customers, it's more important to suck up to CTL's and DCO's, while treating customers like the enemy if they don't buy into the unrealistic volumes of vaccines or worthless patient outreach program nonsense. Now MVID is in a constant state of chaos because people over promised and under performed. Oh, yeah more customers are closing their doors to us too because of our new commercial model bullying tactics. Thanks stooges for your lasting impression over the last 6 years of turning this division from the crown jewl of Merck into a crown of crap like the rest of Merck.
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Old 05-03-2012, 11:49 PM
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Mike, Margie and Alina completely shook up everything great about this organization and shook out a lot of the talent that made it a great place to be. So what if the stooges, brought in masses and masses of overly analytical go getters and head bobbers with the call, frequency, and reach garbage. Does this division bring in more dollars now? Yes. However at what cost did all of these profits come in? Many of the people they brought over had inept people skills or an inferiority complex that only could be satisfied with a lot of brown nosing and saying yes to everything without question. Instead of building strong relationships with customers, it's more important to suck up to CTL's and DCO's, while treating customers like the enemy if they don't buy into the unrealistic volumes of vaccines or worthless patient outreach program nonsense. Now MVID is in a constant state of chaos because people over promised and under performed. Oh, yeah more customers are closing their doors to us too because of our new commercial model bullying tactics. Thanks stooges for your lasting impression over the last 6 years of turning this division from the crown jewl of Merck into a crown of crap like the rest of Merck.
I cannot believe what has happened to what was once known as MVD. GSK could not have done a better job of dismantling us if they had tried. Mikey is already there and I guess the other stooges would always be welcome there.
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Old 05-04-2012, 07:32 PM
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Is this thread about Welsh, O'donell Smith, and Hoskins? Sure sounds like it is
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Old 05-05-2012, 03:58 PM
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Is this thread about Welsh, O'donell Smith, and Hoskins? Sure sounds like it is
USHH fool!
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Old 05-08-2012, 08:12 PM
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USHH fool!
All it takes is one and we had 3 USHH fools take down the entire vaccine division.
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Old 05-09-2012, 09:26 PM
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All it takes is one and we had 3 USHH fools take down the entire vaccine division.
and now that they are gone, we have even bigger fools taking us down to even lower levels
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Old 05-12-2012, 11:39 AM
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and now that they are gone, we have even bigger fools taking us down to even lower levels
The current vaccine exec team are so bad that reps and CTL's are making fun of them at district meetings. Just about everybody knows what the stooges did and who they hired to lead has destroyed the division. If only Ken Frazier and the Board of Directors would take some some time away from exercising all of their options and read this board, they may take some action to remove these amateurs.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:26 PM
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The current vaccine exec team are so bad that reps and CTL's are making fun of them at district meetings. Just about everybody knows what the stooges did and who they hired to lead has destroyed the division. If only Ken Frazier and the Board of Directors would take some some time away from exercising all of their options and read this board, they may take some action to remove these amateurs.
What! Take time away from excising options! Go to hell! LMAO!!!
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:25 PM
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What! Take time away from excising options! Go to hell! LMAO!!!
I'm already there. I work for MVID!
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Old 05-14-2012, 12:12 AM
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I'm already there. I work for MVID!
Cool. Um, well not really though.
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Old 05-16-2012, 10:17 AM
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and now that they are gone, we have even bigger fools taking us down to even lower levels
Todd and the DCO's are lying to themselves and each other on how to turn things around. It is pretty scary how little they know. Some serious changes are coming towards the end of the year and it's being done out of ignorance and desperation.
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Old 05-19-2012, 01:42 AM
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Todd and the DCO's are lying to themselves and each other on how to turn things around. It is pretty scary how little they know. Some serious changes are coming towards the end of the year and it's being done out of ignorance and desperation.
The DCO's are getting pretty cutthroat amongts each other to impress Todd. TL especially.
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Old 05-20-2012, 10:55 PM
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The DCO's are getting pretty cutthroat amongts each other to impress Todd. TL especially.
Thomas' dad can't bail him out of this one.
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Old 05-21-2012, 11:21 PM
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Todd and the rascals will probably be gone within 4 years. If Zostavax has another bad year, make it 2.
Let's start a betting pool.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:36 PM
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The panic is starting. The nation is below plan for Zostavax already and pressure is coming from above to move last years doses that are still sitting in fridges.
Retail pharmacies are furious! They are sitting on a ton of product and some of which is short dated, ready to expire soon. I'm afraid to talk to some of my pharmacies because I think the pharmacists might take a swing at me because they are so frustrated with the pressure they are getting from their corporate offices to push the product.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:23 AM
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The new Stooges movie sucked too.
So does their under CTL's.
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Old 05-28-2012, 09:48 AM
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Retail pharmacies are furious! They are sitting on a ton of product and some of which is short dated, ready to expire soon. I'm afraid to talk to some of my pharmacies because I think the pharmacists might take a swing at me because they are so frustrated with the pressure they are getting from their corporate offices to push the product.
There is one retail pharmacy chain that has an automatic prompt on their registers to have the pharmacist talk about Zosta. Many of these pharmacists are finding ways to bypass the prompt because they are sick of dealing with our vaccine because of the pressure from their corporate people.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:32 PM
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All it takes is one and we had 3 USHH fools take down the entire vaccine division.
After the three stooges, we now have four rascals following in their footsteps.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:19 PM
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After the three stooges, we now have four rascals following in their footsteps.
Is it just me or have many of the CTL's around the country turned into robotic zombies, programmed by the DCO's, pushing targeting lists, action plans and simple messages down the throats of the reps at a feverish pitch right now? I know my team is freaking out.
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Is it just me or have many of the CTL's around the country turned into robotic zombies, programmed by the DCO's, pushing targeting lists, action plans and simple messages down the throats of the reps at a feverish pitch right now? I know my team is freaking out.
P A N I C
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