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Old 01-13-2012, 06:17 PM
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Default Layoffs in 2012?

Has anyone heard anything on possible layoff notices on January 18th? Heard there is a manditory conference call for ALL employees at 1 on that day. Last time that happened everyone working P&G groceries was let go......I doubt that whetever it is they want to tell their employess won't be good news.......
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Old 01-14-2012, 05:52 AM
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Is the call for all CBD. That sounds like layoff time to me
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:27 AM
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If CBD means everyone then yeah, all included in call. Restructuring always mean layoffs for the low levels. One article on Google says forced retirement....that's not me yet though I suppose I should start sending out resumes. Kind of wanted to know ahead of time what to expect on Wed.'s call. Anyone hear anything please post. Thanks.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:48 AM
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I think I know how it will play out....P&G is the only company left who has cosmetic reps. All others have let theirs go. So P&G will most likely say that any employee who has the most cosmetics hours of last year will be let go. Same way they got rid of grocery division last time.
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Old 01-16-2012, 10:39 AM
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Why P&G would lay off RM's would not be a wise choice as it is the Rm's that do more than check product availablity, via upc product placement, stock shelves for customers and for P&G sales/profits. Cosmetics has nothing to do with it as all/majority rm's handle cosmetics as well as all other P&G products. Even now with the work being 3rd partied out, there are P&G rm's that could handle the work that is sent to 3rd party. Many of times I've been in the stores and see boxes that say hold for "a third party name" w/P&G pop and it never gets put up by a third party rm, but because it is "our company" P&G pop I place the pop.
If P&G lays off rm's their sales/profits will plummet more than the recession.
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Old 01-16-2012, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Layoffs in 2012?

There are some RMs that do nothing but Cover Girl resets for two large chain stores in the months of January and Febuary. Don't know who will be let go but am sure there will be cut backs on part-time RMs as there were in March of 2010 when grocery RMs were let go. I do notice that P&G is the only one with RMs doing the resets this year in a couple of large chain stores. From a business stand point they'd be the ones to go. RMs who cover each store could probably pick up any slack.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:38 AM
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As a P&G rep, in my area I have personally run into Revlon and Loreal who also did Cosmetic resets. Both Not from 3rd party companies. These girls for these companies have done resets along side of me for years. Also along being in Big Box stores and their competitors doing P&G work, I have run into these girls as well doing basic coverage work for their companies.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Layoffs in 2012?

Retail Pulse Organization is offically history as of Today! 2800 rms and their supervisor's are all being laid off.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:24 PM
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Yeah, doesn't that just suck.....I've seen work done by Acosta....nothing to be proud of that's for sure.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:40 PM
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It's Official, P&G made a huge mistake by laying off all RM's. What a laugh Acosta and Convergience. I worked with Acosta they HATE P&G they cut out P&G products during resets and cut in work. It was so depressing working with these companies as they bad mouthed P&G. I have worked with Convergience and NEVER got paid or had to continually keep calling calling to get the little pay they offered. What a flipping joke!!!!!

I hope all the 2400 RM's layed off refuse to purchase any more P&G products!
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:45 PM
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Rant Re: Layoffs in 2012?

Thought I would apply at Covergance, but after reading this post, not so sure. Pretty sure not going to Acosta. MIght just sit on my a@@ and collect uc until something else comes along. I really believe that PG made a huge mistake getting rid of Retail Pulse, they have some very dedicated employee's and I don't think that 3rd party is really going to give the PG Brand the attention that it's leaders think it deserves.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:51 PM
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Crying Re: Layoffs in 2012?

I agree with the comments regarding 3rd party companies and their lack of dedication to P&G. I've been a RM for many years and always took pride in my work. Often I did a job along side of an Acosta rep and never did I see the same dedication and pride coming from them. I'll apply to both companies.....I need to work......at least until something else comes along. I too feel that P&G made a huge mistake. But from what I've been reading in various articles on line is that the investors feel more money can be earned if the focus shifts to under developed countries over-seas. It's all being driven by money. And those at the top have no interest in the fact that 2400 people are now going to be out on the street.
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Old 01-18-2012, 07:18 PM
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P&G Retail Pulse is going to dissolve this year. All RMs will lose their jobs. So will the planners, supervisors, etc. Work is going to Acosta and Convergence. Most will lose their jobs by March. All Retail Pulse work be gone by October 1st.

That was the news in this morning's conference call.
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Old 01-18-2012, 08:23 PM
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Default Re: Layoffs in 2012?

Once again, bottom line = $$$$$$$

Your job has just been outsourced to a 3rd. world company. Employee/company loyalty is a thing of the past. All these suits think about is profit, stock price, etc. nothing else. Guaranteed that you and I would do the same if in that position.

Corporate profits are king, not your crummy RM job. We have seen it time and time again over the past decade. This news should not come as a surprise to anyone as P&G has recently made cuts in corporate as well. Welcome to the 21st. Century.
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Old 01-19-2012, 03:56 PM
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What they don't realize is that you can't put a price on quality work. You get what you pay for. When the third party companies screw up and sales drop they will realize this. Just because the labor is cheaper doesn't mean you will get the same quality work. I will not apply with the other vendors but I also will not sit by and bust my tail for a few hours a week. I will seek employment elsewhere. Hopefully I will find a company with morals and values.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:44 PM
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Off course bottom line is $$$$$$ as they had to come up $5 million to fund their 2012 Thank You Mom campaign to support 150 athletes in the 2012 London Olmpic Games and youth sports.

I won't be supporting that cause, figured I did already with my job. Also not supporting or purchasing any more P&G brands even with their brand saver.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:20 AM
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I really believe the Pringles deal stalling played a big role in the layoffs. They were expecting all that cash to come in by dec and when that didn't happen Retail Pulse paid the price. What a BIG mistake. Third party doesn't have relationships or the work ethic that we do!!!
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:05 AM
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I think everyone so far has it wrong; we work predominately in Walmart's and that is the primary "cash cow" for retail pulse funding; If you've been in a Walmart regularly, you will notice every holiday carries over a ton of merchandise...slow sales; most all the full time department heads have been cut back 4 hours or more per week...slow sales. You can bet at the corporate level Walmart was not willing to pay out as much as they had in the past for the services provided by Retail Pulse because they are feeling the pinch of the economy as are the customers. The ironic twist to all this is that we are repeatedly being told by our RMN's that we are indexing at anywhere from 92 to 98 % of last years sales...yet the stores I serviced were at 88 to 90% of last year...that right there should prove our worth to these stores...it will only go down from here and they deserve every lost sale they miss.
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Old 01-20-2012, 01:28 PM
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Bottom line is.......They cut off their noses to spite their faces. And yes, in the long run it will have been a big mistake. 3rd party employees have no loyality to P&G where as Retail Pulse RMS did. It may take a bit of time but eventually that lack of attention to P&G from 3rd parties will show in the decrease of cash coming in. Then they will have to start all over again building back up all the good work we've acomplished.
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Old 01-20-2012, 02:41 PM
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Everyone blames Walmart's for everything. They weren't even around when I started. P&G had a very bad reputation with store accounts way back when, which I found out it had to do with P&G business ethics. I worked in one account (large chain) that one store refused to have any P&G on it's shelf. If product was on the shelf, the label was removed and rest of the set was doubled or tripled faced to fill shelf. Got the store restablished w/our products and things got better.

I, like many of you, worked as a P&G rep on set along side 3rd party for big sets. The ones I worked with in front of me cut out or cut down facings of P&G items to make plano's fit. The store lead ok'd the changes, until (most of the time) I mentioned P&G is paying for the store reset, and said the items are going back in and we'll work on cutting out other items. They didn't care which ones because they have no product loyalty, I was told on many times it's alway P&G they cut out.

Yes Walmart, as P&G jumped on that cash cow and put all their eggs in that basket for sales/profit, P&G stopped giving attention/concern to the other accounts. And started giving those accounts to third party if any as some just went to the wayside with no representation.

In Walmart, yes everything was great at first, then Walmart started having their own issues. Most DM's have more than one department so their attention is just getting their own work done for corporate, nevermind mod's or stocking. As those are now left to overnight shift or DM's who take a week overnight to get their mod's done.

When we're in Walmart's and company/product specific, we could get those oos filled or issues corrected, where DM's or associates are trying to get every companies issued and product out and they just don't have the time to do it all.

P&G Corporate has to take a huge step back and look at itself before blaming others ie: the economy, customer loyalty to brand, ect.

They can't keep using their coupons as band aids

P&G's issues are in corporate office's not out here in the real world.

Also if your middle - upper management and get let go, generally there is a package deal - nothing great, I'm sure but it's better than calling into a scheduled conference and hearing Thank You for Hard Work and Dedication to P&G, you all are being phased out and ending with Thank You for calling into the conference today.

P&G's motto - Start out sweet - put all the dirt in the middle - and end with a cherry on top
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Old 01-20-2012, 10:09 PM
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My wife has been an rm with P&G for the last ten years. P&G could not have had a better more positive representative for their products.

HOWEVER, 10K a year ($200 a week) with no benefits was no great deal! Yet she killed herself for P&G!

She drank the kool-aid and believed she had a job for life . . . live and learn.

The shareholders come first, the stock price & profits are the kings TO HELL WITH the working employee!

A lesson for upper management . . . those who are CLOSEST to the customers are the real people who run the company, P&G has really decided that the customers are no longer important.

My wife will be better off without P&G, P&G will not be better off without her . . . good luck
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:30 PM
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Pause and Reflect----Companies have been downsizing vendor retail service since 1990.
Technology has eliminated functional jobs like inventory, ordering, distribution checks and etc.
The idea became to streamline product info for a quicker way to identify turnover and the
old way (vendor reps) is becoming obsolete. Manufacturers (vendors) are now able to link into retail customer product base and see what is moving on a daily basis without a rep
being there. So------P&G is eliminating (reps) because the cost is far greater to use them.

Sad to see this because we get rid of so many jobs due to technology and
never seem to care about the human behind the job eliminated.

2,800 part time jobs eliminated in the USA ----I thought we were trying to create new jobs?
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Old 01-22-2012, 09:58 AM
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While a being a dedicated P&G Rm (as we were not supposed to work for other companies-or our competition) I know many P&G Rm's that also worked for other companies. Some received same pay, some would be in the stores doing P&G workorders and also 3rd party work-for P&G- and getting paid $2.00 more than what P&G Rm's got paid. And don't be surprised if you go to one of the companies suggested and you have an ex-P&G Rm for you supervisior.
P&G did not want to pay any benefits, that's why they kept us down to a certain yearly hours we could work. They had alot of work all these years, 3rd partied out P&G work because we had to stay under the yearly hours so they didn't have to pay benefits.
I am also a stockholder. The stockholder's they are concerned with are corporate not the little working people like the aveage Joe or their peon's, grunt workers, P&G little Rm's. The Rm's that have store and customer contact.
Corporate can sell to the stores, but it's the Rm's that get the product sold to the customer so the stores will order more P&G product. Otherwise as corporate sells product to stores and it sits on shelf and does not sell, stores will not order more of a product that does not sell.
How funny it is that we the grunt workers held P&G higher in standards than they show for their employees.

In all, I have met many good, hard working people and made many friendships.

I do not know what I will decided to do after all this is over with, as I have become acustom
to eating and paying bills. I will have to work at some point.

A House (including P&G Corporate House) is only as good as it's foundation (Rm's)
Once you start chipping away at the foundation, the house will start to fall.

Even though we are all shocked and surprised (which is a normal reaction after being slapped in the face) I wish all Rm's well and much, much success.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:56 PM
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Just wondering, has anyone applied to or heard from any other companies? On the conference call they, P&G, made it sound - the words- "transition to" was actually used.
That we would "transition to" one of these other companies, Acosta or Convergence, as though those companies had a plan for P&G Rm's.
I have heard, there is nothing in my area from both Acosta and Convergence. I worked for P&G many years in my area so I know coverage was or should be available.

Sounds like P&G laid us off, sorry flipped us off. Gave all the work to other companies not only Acosta or Convergence as they said. And those companies gave it to their Rep's already working in the territories. So basically P&G laid us off and knowingly sold us out, leaving us no real opportunity for a job to "transition to" into another company.

If you haven't applied to these other companies, do it now. I did the first second I had info from P&G of where to apply only to receive messages of like I said, We have nothing in your area.

And I need to work!!! My children need to eat!!! I need to pay basic bills!!!

Thanks, P&G!

I'd like to add from another post before me,

The slap in the face from P&G just keeps coming ; O
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:27 PM
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I applied to both while the conference call was taking place. As soon as I heard which companies were "picking up" the resets and coverage I started working their websites. Got a call back the very next day from the one picking up the cosmetic resets. Was interviewed and a new hire pack was e-mailed to me. I was told that I could start ASAP. They weren't even honoring the "March 19th" date as to when the first wave would go. I am 90% sure I will not take it though they are hiring at the wages I make with P&G. All resets in all stores including home improvement, grocery along with other accounts. There is heavy lifting required that I'm not willing to do at my age. I'm not in the first wave of RMs to go so at this point I will stay until the end or until something worthwhile comes along. Once the first group is gone there will be a bit more work for the rest with drug stores, pet and other odds and ends. Acosta has a conference call for all of us tomorrow (tuesday 24)......I do want to hear what they have to say.
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Old 01-25-2012, 01:23 PM
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I had a phone call from Acosta this morning. They have offered me four stores in a part time position that will be between 25 and 30 hours a week. The problem is, two of the stores are 40 minutes from my home. We are responsible for the first 20 miles each day and the last 20 miles each day so don't know that I want to drive out their very often but the recruiter told me that store visits were usually 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Doesn't all add up. She couldn't tell me the total time in each store per week. She is supposed to be checking on it but so far, I'm not impressed with Acosta.

Hope other people have better success. Also, be prepared for pressure--several times I was told that this may be the only position I would be offered.
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Old 01-25-2012, 02:34 PM
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I got a call on Tues offered and accepted a merchandising position. Start date march 12. I will work with PG until that time and then transition over to.
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Old 01-26-2012, 09:30 PM
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I've worked for P&G for 20 years. Though I knew this lay-off would eventually happen, I was hoping it would wait until I could retire. Oh, well. Dump your stock shares, refuse to buy P&G products. Hit them where it hurts. You might also consider refusing to shop at their biggest retail outlet-Walmart. Ta, ta P&G.
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Old 01-26-2012, 10:54 PM
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I have "STOPPED BUYING" any P&G products and even if any of my family buys anything made by P&G the next day I return those items....Management sucks..lots Red Tapes and bureaucratic mean Bastards.

P&G=PROFIT AND GREED....In fact there is a book published by an ex employee called as Profit and Greed..find more facts there.
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Old 01-28-2012, 06:24 PM
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What a shame that p&g has let the eyes and the ears of the company go on retail level. These reps were the shakers and the movers securing end caps and cutting in new items. Feels as though they are positioning to purchase again who knows! What we do know is change creates havoc and havoc it will be regardless of third party taking over. Bottom line the third party will not be a dedicated team to the procter and gamble products! Shows that the company does not care. If they did they would cut out just a few commercials and a few less sponsorships to HGTV dream home and the Olympics. I am sure that if the p&g consumer knew that people lost their jobs over that they would say sponsor less-less commercials and save the jobs! This is America we need our jobs! Maybe p&g should have sponsored their low man on the ladder positions rms to the consumer of their products! I am sure America would agree!
We will see the company see the negative impact and will say oh boy we need a dedicated force and where will the teams be? Gone and outsourced as they have forced everyone outta the family! The talent currently is experienced and proud of representation of the brands. You will never see teams like that again-They do not exist nor can they just be formed again. Good Luck p&g to you as well.
Dedicated team player 10 years service.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:11 AM
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I had a phone call from Acosta this morning. They have offered me four stores in a part time position that will be between 25 and 30 hours a week. The problem is, two of the stores are 40 minutes from my home. We are responsible for the first 20 miles each day and the last 20 miles each day so don't know that I want to drive out their very often but the recruiter told me that store visits were usually 1 1/2 to 2 hours. Doesn't all add up. She couldn't tell me the total time in each store per week. She is supposed to be checking on it but so far, I'm not impressed with Acosta.

Hope other people have better success. Also, be prepared for pressure--several times I was told that this may be the only position I would be offered.
Have heard several "Horror" stories about territories being 75 miles, 92 miles, even over 100 miles one way to stores. Has it ever dawned on anybody there might be a reason?? Possibly they aren't expecting us to say YES. They are making it difficult to say YES, because they really want a NO answer??? Especially with the pressure for an immediate answer! Just Sayin'!
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Old 02-11-2012, 08:46 PM
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That's so true!
They are "honoring" the agreement with P&G of hiring their RMS and placing them in Walmarts & Targets.......not their fault a P&G RM won't drive 50+ miles to their sheduled stores.....
In my case I was told that all the Walmart/Target coverage positions were filled....but there were many openings in Groceries. Yeah, sure. Instead of the coverage work I've been doing for years I'm going to take a position doing resets in Shoprites all over creation......NOT!
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:33 AM
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I have seen the work convergence does it is a nightmare.I am sure they are hoping that the P & G reps will work for them to make their company look better.P & G does not realize Convergence is owned by investors.This is very scary......do these investors have experienced in this line of work?Anybody can be an investor.You pay for what you get.....Covergirl will lose a lot of business in areas they do not have good merchandisers.I give them 2 years and they will see what a huge mistake they made and will start the hiring process for a new merchandising program.As far as Acosta goes their loyalty is too their people not P&G ,remember anybody can tell you what you want to hear but in the long run they will do what they want look at these territories they are offering people long drive time for a couple hours of work.......acosta is in litigation right now for unpaid wages....this is the company I would want to work for.....yeah right.......If you are offered grocery resets have fun working resets .It could be anything.......frozen food to dog food.Good luck to all my peers!
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Old 03-23-2012, 12:53 PM
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Be very careful about Acosta. In 2010 all grocery RMs were "disemployed" but they were offered the wonderful opportunity to work for Acosta. Those who chose Acosta would work roughly the same amount of hours at the P&G pay rate for one year and then get stepped down to the Acosta pay scale. The problem was that current Acosta employees were working half the hours that P&G vendors were already. Former P&G employees were working one, maybe two 1-2 hour resets per week and within the month, they were all let go. Good luck.

My household, extended family and friends have now eliminated the buying of P&G products, not out of anger, we simply can't support a company that lacks ethics.
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Old 03-25-2012, 10:45 AM
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I received my package, so long friends!
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:41 AM
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First of all, it is NOT a layoff. Retailpulse will be gone by October ? or sooner according to my recent letter. I will be given 2 weeks notice! I am hurt,shocked,sad,worried etc.etc.. I will stay until the end ? Take the time to find another job AND health insurance .That is the scariest part I KNOW I can find a job ,but there wont be addiquate insurance. Many of my friends/coworkers have gone with Acosta , I am not that trusting....and have not been offered a position that would not cause further hardship. ie: less hours but 3 times the driving, health care discount ?really ....!. It use to be that 3rd party was a dirty word to p&g, they knew they were taking their chances in getting a job well done ...I wish p&g luck and will look forward to seeing future sales figures. Retailpulse kicked ass in getting the ”Tide pods” Launch done , sad that it was the very product that lead to our demise .....I do hope the share holders will be happy.
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Old 03-29-2012, 02:56 PM
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Took job w/Convergence doing Cosmetic Resets. Although some knew their stuff, others a joke. Anyone doing cosmetic work was worried about what work they would be doing once cosmetic "season" was over. Did 2 resets that was in my "area" and nothing else is/was available. The available work page is always empty and I'm still waiting to get paid for work that I completed. I've asked the regional manager if ANY work was going to be available any time soon, no response as of yet.
Acosta, have they got themselves together yet? Heard work hasn't even started yet for people that went over to them. Acosta had no work in my area, as they had a rep for already in place and working in my area and surrounding area.
Calling Unemployment to see what I can do. Let go from P&G, per January 2012 P&G conference call- we were told that we were going to "transition" to another company either Convegence or Acosta, and those companies have no work available.
May call state also for state assistance as I just made it with P&G salary and unemployment is not even half that from what I hear. I swore I never would do that and never thought I'd go that route, I don't blame the economy. I blame P&G.
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:08 PM
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Wasn't really a transition - wrong use of wording. I really felt bad for the woman who asked about receiving the Christmas present. NO - they just fired you, honey! Or nicer terms, let go. And I have heard as well: the hours are not the same. Seem to be split between PG and Kraft. Not everybody got hired either. They didn't need that many - I have heard only about 650 of the 2700 were needed. As far as the other group, Target and grocery, I have heard it will be mostly independent grocery store resets at 6 AM in the morning. Good luck to all my PG family i finding jobs. My family has had to "downsize" as well - no more PG products - lots of store brands now.
PG will never get a dedicated team as this one ever again.
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Old 04-14-2012, 09:41 AM
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I applied to convergence back in January and got a call from them on 4/13. The recruiter sounded like they had plenty of work and will start me at my current wage. I was sent the new hire package. I am going to go for it but would really like to know more about this company.
Does anyone have recent experience with Convergence?
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:48 PM
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Banghead Re: Layoffs in 2012?

Just saw the last post....Convergence has very little work available. It's projects only too, meaning you pick the jobs you want to work. Right now all they have is over night postions. Anyway, I'm in wave 3...being let go in September. Just found out that the drug store work is going to be done in store as of the 15th. No 3rd party is picking that up even though we were told back in January there'd be work for those of us staying past March. Not true. I have put applications in on just about every merchandising site with very little feed back.....even with my 35 plus years in retail. So I too will be looking at state assisitance along with unemployment. Worst case I'll apply at Acosta....many openings right now because so many P&G people have already quit. I won't like it but it would have to do if nothing else comes through.
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