Obama's Secret Service Playing on the job

[Phoebe, Inc.]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...638,b=facebook

GSA...now this geesssh

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...638,b=facebook

GSA...now this geesssh

Feebs, I love ya but I hope you're not saying this is Obama's fault. It ain't exactly like he recruited the Secret Service mambers. I think this speaks to an age-old issue. The best way to get next to a man is to use that sweet, ring of fire y'all have. More men have caved over that than anything else including money.

It is scary though, no bombs or weaponry needed except for (ya know?)

[Rush's Anal Boil]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...638,b=facebook

GSA...now this geesssh

Really??? Are you saying Obama recruits, hires, and manages the secret service now too?


You need to stop!

[yerdaddy]

Originally Posted by Rush's Anal Boil

Really??? Are you saying Obama recruits, hires, and manages the secret service now too?


You need to stop!

You sound like you're wearing your Owebama-GSA clown suit. Yeah, in the Owebama administration, the buck never gets to Obama's desk. Only when something good happens does Owebama declare his micromanagement was the cause.

You need to stop!

[Rush's Anal Boil]

Originally Posted by yerdaddy

You sound like you're wearing your Owebama-GSA clown suit. Yeah, in the Owebama administration, the buck never gets to Obama's desk. Only when something good happens does Owebama declare his micromanagement was the cause.

You need to stop!

I heard one of the mail room clerks in the Treasury Dept took an extra 15 minutes for lunch yesterday. Why hasn't he been personally fired by Obama yet?

[Doc Who]

Originally Posted by Rush's Anal Boil

Really??? Are you saying Obama recruits, hires, and manages the secret service now too?


You need to stop!

I will be interested to hear how Limpballs or Beck will spin this one on Monday. They may say that the S.S. was getting the girls for Obama.

[CP Soothsayer]

"The incident threatened to overshadow Obama's economic and trade agenda at the summit and embarrass the U.S. The White House had no comment."

YET

"Those involved had been sent back to their permanent place of duty and were being replaced by other agency personnel, Donovan said..."

Umm..if it was that big of a hairy deal, why weren't the dirty dozen fired?

[Vagitarian]

Pardon the pun but screw all this stuff - how hot were the chicks?

[BoJester]

Originally Posted by yerdaddy

You sound like you're wearing your Owebama-GSA clown suit. Yeah, in the Owebama administration, the buck never gets to Obama's desk. Only when something good happens does Owebama declare his micromanagement was the cause.

You need to stop!

Aren't you, along with so many cons, griping that Zimmerman is INNOCENT? That there was no need to rush to judgement? That Martin actually attacked Zimmerman, and then shot himself in the chest?
But you and other cons have already convicted the agents without hearing their side of the story.
Conservatives should retire the elephant as their symbol, and replace it with a two-headed snake, with multiple forked tongues.

[Breakingnews]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

Feebs, I love ya but I hope you're not saying this is Obama's fault. It ain't exactly like he recruited the Secret Service mambers. I think this speaks to an age-old issue. The best way to get next to a man is to use that sweet, ring of fire y'all have. More men have caved over that than anything else including money.

It is scary though, no bombs or weaponry needed except for (ya know?)

I couldn't have said it better, Vag. Feebs may have a touch SPNitis - A condition that causes a person to blame everything on President Obama. Heck, If the Prez found the cure for cancer, some of the cons here would slam him for putting Cancer Treatment Centers out of business.

This thread is pure FLUFF.

[SPN]

Originally Posted by Breakingnews

I couldn't have said it better, Vag. Feebs may have a touch SPNitis - A condition that causes a person to blame everything on President Obama. Heck, If the Prez found the cure for cancer, some of the cons here would slam him for putting Cancer Treatment Centers out of business.

This thread is pure FLUFF.

I don't see Phoebe blaming owebama other than stating the fact that this is his security service. As to the need for micromanagment, tell me why owebama has spoken out of far more local issues than this? The simple reality is his blind followers will not fault him for anything.

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

Feebs, I love ya but I hope you're not saying this is Obama's fault. It ain't exactly like he recruited the Secret Service mambers. I think this speaks to an age-old issue. The best way to get next to a man is to use that sweet, ring of fire y'all have. More men have caved over that than anything else including money.

It is scary though, no bombs or weaponry needed except for (ya know?)

Originally Posted by Rush's Anal Boil

Really??? Are you saying Obama recruits, hires, and manages the secret service now too?


You need to stop!

Originally Posted by Breakingnews

I couldn't have said it better, Vag. Feebs may have a touch SPNitis - A condition that causes a person to blame everything on President Obama. Heck, If the Prez found the cure for cancer, some of the cons here would slam him for putting Cancer Treatment Centers out of business.

This thread is pure FLUFF.

Good friggin’ grief. Where in my post (even in the title) does it imply that I hold Obama responsible for the actions of the SS? (it only references to them being the SS of Obama, no other way to put it). Y’all should be ashamed that you would jump to that conclusion with personal attacks (BN…hummm) rather than calmly asking if that is what I was implying.

Now my love Vag approached it in the right way. He didn’t accuse me, he asked for clarification. RAB was almost there with the kinder approach asking for clarification until his last line telling me “you need to stop”. And then we have BN’s post….BAMMM…accusation and comparing me to another. Tisk, tisk; pure “fluff” from the back end.

To answer the questions and/or accusation; NO I do not blame Obama for what the SS is accused of doing. They acted on their own much like a rep at a pharma company would do at a POA meeting. The reps personal actions are not a reflection of the CEO of the company; they own that themselves. Now if the rep sucks and does a terrible job by NOT gaining business for the company…it may not be the fault of the CEO but it would reflect on his bottom line in answering to the Board of Directors.

I am sure it is nothing more than an embarrassment for Obama and I do agree with Sooth in wondering why they just transferred them rather than firing them; but I am sure the investigation has to be completed first because the big hoop ha started because one of the gals filed a complaint that she wasn’t paid! I wonder who she filed THAT kind of complaint with and what it said?? LOL

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...-colombia?lite

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by SPN

I don't see Phoebe blaming owebama other than stating the fact that this is his security service. As to the need for micromanagment, tell me why owebama has spoken out of far more local issues than this? The simple reality is his blind followers will not fault him for anything.

So true.

[Vagitarian]

I didn't accuse Feebs of sayong it was Obama's fault, I said I hope she doesn't feel that way. I seriously doubt he has anything to do with the selection of the agents assigned to him or the training they receive. It's now coming out that the 'incidents' happened not while he was there but before he got there when they were simply getting the 'lay of the land' (PI). Hell everyone needs some R & R. Some play tennis and some don't. It's like that old joke, 'what's the difference between a cat and a kitten'? PM me if you need the answer - LOL.

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

I didn't accuse Feebs of sayong it was Obama's fault, I said I hope she doesn't feel that way. I seriously doubt he has anything to do with the selection of the agents assigned to him or the training they receive. It's now coming out that the 'incidents' happened not while he was there but before he got there when they were simply getting the 'lay of the land' (PI). Hell everyone needs some R & R. Some play tennis and some don't. It's like that old joke, 'what's the difference between a cat and a kitten'? PM me if you need the answer - LOL.

Yes...it states his arrival in the original article I posted so I knew he was not there when the guys were playing. The original article i posted said: "He was due to attend summit meetings with regional leaders Saturday and Sunday". So..I knew it had happened prior to his arrival.

And NO, Vag did not accuse me. <3

[Rocknwolf]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

Yes...it states his arrival in the original article I posted so I knew he was not there when the guys were playing. The original article i posted said: "He was due to attend summit meetings with regional leaders Saturday and Sunday". So..I knew it had happened prior to his arrival.

And NO, Vag did not accuse me. <3

The title of the article you cite said that agents were being recalled. You and the other Obama bashers love to lie and somehow try to connect any alleged bad government behavior with Obama.
Since Secret Service agents are federal employees and civil service employees yours was a cheap, thinly vieled attempt to stir up the shit for brains haters.
You should be ashamed, and yet you and the other bashers will whine like scalded rats when a conervaturd is placed in a bad perspective, whether or not it i justified.
Much like the ugly hag in Arizonanaziland.

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Rocknwolf

The title of the article you cite said that agents were being recalled. You and the other Obama bashers love to lie and somehow try to connect any alleged bad government behavior with Obama.
Since Secret Service agents are federal employees and civil service employees yours was a cheap, thinly vieled attempt to stir up the shit for brains haters.
You should be ashamed, and yet you and the other bashers will whine like scalded rats when a conervaturd is placed in a bad perspective, whether or not it i justified.
Much like the ugly hag in Arizonanaziland.

Rock, you may respectfully kiss my ass. I am NOT the one that “titled” the articles; take that up with the authors of the articles. The titles said they were being relieved of duty and accused of hiring prostitutes.

So how is it that you can twist it all around and say I lied? I didn’t write it; just reporting the news from some of your favorite sources. Are you saying your favorite sources are trying to stir the pot? Bring on a scandal with proof about a politician repub/cons and if it is true…why would I justify it? Wrong is wrong remember? Also a matter of opinion.

Below are the titles of the articles you seem to have your thong in a wad over. Am I ashamed? Nope, nothing to be ashamed of unless I had been one of the guys that got caught.

1…. Secret Service Agents Relieved Of Duty Following Colombia Misconduct Allegations, by By JULIE PACE with Huffington Post

2… Secret Service agents, military personnel accused of hiring prostitutes in Colombia, by By NBC News, msnbc.com and news services

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by Rocknwolf

The title of the article you cite said that agents were being recalled. You and the other Obama bashers love to lie and somehow try to connect any alleged bad government behavior with Obama.
Since Secret Service agents are federal employees and civil service employees yours was a cheap, thinly vieled attempt to stir up the shit for brains haters.
You should be ashamed, and yet you and the other bashers will whine like scalded rats when a conervaturd is placed in a bad perspective, whether or not it i justified.
Much like the ugly hag in Arizonanaziland.

Jesus f*cking Christ people, is everyone here insane? The title of the article was Secret Service agents relieved of duty ' and guess what? They were!

It's an article that was reported in the news and it IS fair game for discussion. Feebs and I may disagree on a few things and I'm sorry I even said, "I hope you didn't blah, blah, blah (assume it was Obama's fault). But if people can't sit back and separate words from emotion and intelligently talk about this shit - we are all screwed with a capital 'F'.

Here's one (actually 2) for y'all -
1) I think Gov Brewer was 'spot on' about her border protection bill.
2) I think her new bill redefining the beginning of life is primitive and could take us back to the days when both sperm and egg were considered life by the Catholic Church therefore BC was a no-no.
These 2 poitions are politically diametrically opposed. So does every person have to be 100% right? Or 100% wrong? Does that makle me a 'Libbie' as SPN says or a conserv sincve I oppose you or an Independent? Or WTF? Who gives a shit? All labels do9 is paint people in corners and stifle thinking.

Enough, I'm going to pour some wine, burn one down, grab my girlfriend and watch some adult porn later (something fun Rick Santorum the fun guy when he's bowling) would love to stop me from doing. Guess what Rick, it's a free country, I can do whatever the fuck I please within the law and I'm not the guy you should be worried about pal. I'm one of the new faces of senior America that you fuckers need to be wooing!

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

Jesus f*cking Christ people, is everyone here insane? The title of the article was Secret Service agents relieved of duty ' and guess what? They were!

It's an article that was reported in the news and it IS fair game for discussion. Feebs and I may disagree on a few things and I'm sorry I even said, "I hope you didn't blah, blah, blah (assume it was Obama's fault). But if people can't sit back and separate words from emotion and intelligently talk about this shit - we are all screwed with a capital 'F'.

Here's one (actually 2) for y'all -
1) I think Gov Brewer was 'spot on' about her border protection bill.
2) I think her new bill redefining the beginning of life is primitive and could take us back to the days when both sperm and egg were considered life by the Catholic Church therefore BC was a no-no.
These 2 poitions are politically diametrically opposed. So does every person have to be 100% right? Or 100% wrong? Does that makle me a 'Libbie' as SPN says or a conserv sincve I oppose you or an Independent? Or WTF? Who gives a shit? All labels do9 is paint people in corners and stifle thinking.

Enough, I'm going to pour some wine, burn one down, grab my girlfriend and watch some adult porn later (something fun Rick Santorum the fun guy when he's bowling) would love to stop me from doing. Guess what Rick, it's a free country, I can do whatever the fuck I please within the law and I'm not the guy you should be worried about pal. I'm one of the new faces of senior America that you fuckers need to be wooing!

[SPN]

At some point, I hope the questions are asked about why so many are needed for preparations. If they had enough time to play then there are more than are needed for the task.

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by SPN

At some point, I hope the questions are asked about why so many are needed for preparations. If they had enough time to play then there are more than are needed for the task.

What's that saying? To be quite blunt, it doesn't exactly take a long time to have sex and reach a point of stress relief. I'm sure these guys had an extra half hour here and there - it would be subhuman not to give them 'some' free time on any job. I'm sure every SS agent will have it impressed upon them in the future not to dabble. You've got young guys in a foreign country - a few horns and beautiful, seductive women. This has gone on since time began.
Needs to be dealt with ahead of time.

[Breakingnews]

Originally Posted by SPN

I don't see Phoebe blaming owebama other than stating the fact that this is his security service. As to the need for micromanagment, tell me why owebama has spoken out of far more local issues than this? The simple reality is his blind followers will not fault him for anything.

No matter how much you or Phoebe try to SPIN it, this is just another con dog whistle thread.

[libluvsbukkake]

Originally Posted by Doc Who

I will be interested to hear how Limpballs or Beck will spin this one on Monday. They may say that the S.S. was getting the girls for Obama.

If only he liked girls.

[Vagitarian]

Turns out prostitution is legal in that area there so it really wasn't any different than going bowling or shooting pool - they were just relaxing in a more adult way.

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

Turns out prostitution is legal in that area there so it really wasn't any different than going bowling or shooting pool - they were just relaxing in a more adult way.

LOL I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. It states that in the second article I posted...but it says: Although prostitution is legal in Colombia when conducted in “tolerance zones,”

I wonder if they have signs up indicating where the tolerance zones are located?

[libluvsbukkake]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

LOL I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. It states that in the second article I posted...but it says: Although prostitution is legal in Colombia when conducted in “tolerance zones,”

I wonder if they have signs up indicating where the tolerance zones are located?

In Canada, once they make it to your hotel room, there are no laws being broken.

[Setracsed]

Originally Posted by Rocknwolf

The title of the article you cite said that agents were being recalled. You and the other Obama bashers love to lie and somehow try to connect any alleged bad government behavior with Obama.
Since Secret Service agents are federal employees and civil service employees yours was a cheap, thinly vieled attempt to stir up the shit for brains haters.
You should be ashamed, and yet you and the other bashers will whine like scalded rats when a conervaturd is placed in a bad perspective, whether or not it i justified.
Much like the ugly hag in Arizonanaziland.

This is kind of like Fox New's tried and true "some people say..." tactic. They put it out there without having to provide proof, it's parroted, and when called on it, they claim that they never said it, they just stated that "some people" said it. Here, they never openly state what they are implying so that they can state, when called on it, that they never "said" it.

[Man For All Seasons]

Originally Posted by Setracsed

This is kind of like Fox New's tried and true "some people say..." tactic. They put it out there without having to provide proof, it's parroted, and when called on it, they claim that they never said it, they just stated that "some people" said it. Here, they never openly state what they are implying so that they can state, when called on it, that they never "said" it.

Hey, genius, as someone who inferred that Martin only weighed 100 lbs, you have NO right to criticize anyone.

Got ABC?

[Setracsed]

Originally Posted by Man For All Seasons

Hey, genius, as someone who inferred that Martin only weighed 100 lbs, you have NO right to criticize anyone.

Got ABC?

I dare you to pull the post where I inferred anything of the sort. I dare ya. Do it. DO IT.

Great attempt at avoiding the truth though

[Man For All Seasons]

Originally Posted by Setracsed

I dare you to pull the post where I inferred anything of the sort. I dare ya. Do it. DO IT.

Great attempt at avoiding the truth though

You know and I know that it's true. Either that or you have the memory of a gnat or else it was so emotionally traumatizing to you to be beaten down so severely by me, that you've developed a mental block.

As far as avoiding the truth, the truth is that Fox is the best news outlet out there in terms of fairness and freedom from bias.

[Setracsed]

Originally Posted by Man For All Seasons

You know and I know that it's true. Either that or you have the memory of a gnat or else it was so emotionally traumatizing to you to be beaten down so severely by me, that you've developed a mental block.

As far as avoiding the truth, the truth is that Fox is the best news outlet out there in terms of fairness and freedom from bias.

Prove it. Provide link to post or posts. Wouldn't that be easier and more of a beat down than simply claiming it, as is your normal schtick?

Smack me down. Do it. DO IT.

[Man For All Seasons]

Originally Posted by Setracsed

Prove it. Provide link to post or posts. Wouldn't that be easier and more of a beat down than simply claiming it, as is your normal schtick?

Smack me down. Do it. DO IT.

Already done it and apparently so hard that you don't remember.

At first you claimed that Zimmerman had 100 lbs on Martin. Based upon the claims of your liberal buddies that Zimmerman went about 200 lbs, that meant Martin had to only weigh 100 lbs.

Then you tried to claim that he you stated that Martin weighed 160. I asked you to confirm where you had stated that. You never proved your allegation.

Going back to the supposed 100 lbs that Zimmerman has on Martin, that would mean that Zimmerman weighed 260, so I've got you either way you go.

Go back and review the "View the Tape of Zimmerman at Police Station" thread. It's all there, including your fleeing when asked to prove that you had previously stated Martin weighed 160.

You'd be better off to just accept your beat down and admit you were wrong and suckered by unreliable liberal "news" reporting. YOU believe the absurd without critical examination because your bias leads you to believe it.

Sad!

[Setracsed]

Originally Posted by Man For All Seasons

Already done it and apparently so hard that you don't remember.

At first you claimed that Zimmerman had 100 lbs on Martin. Based upon the claims of your liberal buddies that Zimmerman went about 200 lbs, that meant Martin had to only weigh 100 lbs.

Then you tried to claim that he you stated that Martin weighed 160. I asked you to confirm where you had stated that. You never proved your allegation.

Going back to the supposed 100 lbs that Zimmerman has on Martin, that would mean that Zimmerman weighed 260, so I've got you either way you go.

Go back and review the "View the Tape of Zimmerman at Police Station" thread. It's all there, including your fleeing when asked to prove that you had previously stated Martin weighed 160.

You'd be better off to just accept your beat down and admit you were wrong and suckered by unreliable liberal "news" reporting. YOU believe the absurd without critical examination because your bias leads you to believe it.

Sad!

lol search, copy, paste, prove. Wouldn't that be easier than typing a novel? Just sayin'. You stated what thread it was in, so why not just go the extra mile for a really hard smack down and link to it?

Do it. DO IT.
http://www.tinygif.com/data/media/19...ller_do_it.gif

[SPN]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

LOL I was wondering if anyone would pick up on that. It states that in the second article I posted...but it says: Although prostitution is legal in Colombia when conducted in “tolerance zones,”

I wonder if they have signs up indicating where the tolerance zones are located?

I don't see that it being legal changes anything. It is good the administration wants and investigation and is reacting. Those involved embarrassed the nation and distracted from the purpose of the visit. It sounds like a very small number of those present were involved.

When we travel for work, even after hours, it is accepted that you are still representing the company. Discretion, common sense, and behavior you wouldn't care about advertising on the front page of the news are called for. The men in question acted unprofessionally. I don't care what they when at home, completely unconnected to the secret service. But they were in the host country as representatives of the secret service and the United States and should have behaved accordingly. I still feel there are far too many bodies for the job if they have time for this nonsense.

[Bubble Burster]

Originally Posted by Rush's Anal Boil

Really??? Are you saying Obama recruits, hires, and manages the secret service now too?


You need to stop!

The Secret Service is under the Treasury Dept. That would be the ...uh....what do they call it.....Secretary of the Treasury.

And who does the Secretary of the Treasury report to...uh....what do they call that person....the...uh...President?

So The Prez, just like the Captain of the Titanic, is responsible for everything that happens on his ship. The President sets the tone for the administration. Once they learn that the Prez will look the other way and allow corruption to continue, the game is on.

Deal with it.

[BoJester]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

The Secret Service is under the Treasury Dept. That would be the ...uh....what do they call it.....Secretary of the Treasury.

And who does the Secretary of the Treasury report to...uh....what do they call that person....the...uh...President?

So The Prez, just like the Captain of the Titanic, is responsible for everything that happens on his ship. The President sets the tone for the administration. Once they learn that the Prez will look the other way and allow corruption to continue, the game is on.

Deal with it.

An interesting result of this investigation will be to find out just how many of the agents involved in this so-called scandal, did the same thing when they worked under the Bush/Cheney administration. Most agents are in for the career, so scandals have probably gone on for years. And the military has a long track record of visiting/buying the services of prostitutes.
What is the real story?

[SPN]

Originally Posted by BoJester

An interesting result of this investigation will be to find out just how many of the agents involved in this so-called scandal, did the same thing when they worked under the Bush/Cheney administration. Most agents are in for the career, so scandals have probably gone on for years. And the military has a long track record of visiting/buying the services of prostitutes.
What is the real story?

While the news media is so distorted, finding facts is next to impossible, it appears the issue was the lack of discretion. This includes 5 or more men wanting the same prostitute, her claiming that was too many men, refusal to pay her, and a scene created. While on a trip representing the US, they should behave with professional decorum. If they can do this undetected and without creating an embarassment, few would care at all.

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by SPN

While the news media is so distorted, finding facts is next to impossible, it appears the issue was the lack of discretion. This includes 5 or more men wanting the same prostitute, her claiming that was too many men, refusal to pay her, and a scene created. While on a trip representing the US, they should behave with professional decorum. If they can do this undetected and without creating an embarassment, few would care at all.

She must have been hot! And I can ubnderstand no one wanting to be 5th, should that guy pay as much as #1? Or even #2?

[SPN]

The story just got much, much worse and explains why there is such a high level of response.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.1062960

[Bubble Burster]

So now, counting the Army and the Secret Service, we're up to about twenty hookers. Connect the dots...the SS guy telling the hooker he worked for OBlamer...

Do any of you naive libbies really believe that Obama wasn't going to go first? Give me a break.

You can call me a liar, dillusional, or whatever, and I'm sure you will. But at the end of the day you have to concede the possibility. Twenty in one night...? Connect the dots...
The few really honest of you will only think it but not say it. The children will deny.

According to Ronald Kessler, JFK would routinely have three and foursomes, and HE had a bad back. JFK ("Lancer" to the Secret Service because he was a swordsman with prodigious appetites) and Jackie supposedly also had a perfect family life.

It might be years before we really learn the truth. Remember Levrenty Beria? Someday the Obama legend will be shown to be myth.

OK...Ready?...Set? Pounce!!!

[Phoebe, Inc.]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

So now, counting the Army and the Secret Service, we're up to about twenty hookers. Connect the dots...the SS guy telling the hooker he worked for OBlamer...

Do any of you naive libbies really believe that Obama wasn't going to go first? Give me a break.

You can call me a liar, dillusional, or whatever, and I'm sure you will. But at the end of the day you have to concede the possibility. Twenty in one night...? Connect the dots...
The few really honest of you will only think it but not say it. The children will deny.

According to Ronald Kessler, JFK would routinely have three and foursomes, and HE had a bad back. JFK ("Lancer" to the Secret Service because he was a swordsman with prodigious appetites) and Jackie supposedly also had a perfect family life.

It might be years before we really learn the truth. Remember Levrenty Beria? Someday the Obama legend will be shown to be myth.

OK...Ready?...Set? Pounce!!!

My history on this one is a little rusty; I have a question: was the SS for JFK ever questioned or investigated after his death? Had they been out the night before partying etc...? A friend and I talked about that the other day due to this incident and they said that....but I do not remember anything about that part. Takers for thoughts..history lesson for me.

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

The Secret Service is under the Treasury Dept. That would be the ...uh....what do they call it.....Secretary of the Treasury.

And who does the Secretary of the Treasury report to...uh....what do they call that person....the...uh...President?

So The Prez, just like the Captain of the Titanic, is responsible for everything that happens on his ship. The President sets the tone for the administration. Once they learn that the Prez will look the other way and allow corruption to continue, the game is on.

Deal with it.

Sorta the same logic that proved Bush was responsible for the Katrina fuckup - thanks, now we know for sure!

[SPN]

Originally Posted by Phoebe, Inc.

My history on this one is a little rusty; I have a question: was the SS for JFK ever questioned or investigated after his death? Had they been out the night before partying etc...? A friend and I talked about that the other day due to this incident and they said that....but I do not remember anything about that part. Takers for thoughts..history lesson for me.

Interesting thoughts and a book that provides one view:

When it comes to the safety of US presidents, the line between reckless accidents and deliberate acts is not so clear. In the case of John F. Kennedy, the stunning inadequacy of Secret Service protective measures on November 22, 1963 have been the subject of broad speculation and debate for half a century.

Apparently, this was not the result of a one-day lapse. In his book, The Echo From Dealey Plaza, former Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden reveals not only the reckless behavior of his fellow agents charged with protecting Kennedy—but also their personal animosity toward the president and the policies he implemented.

[Bubble Burster]

Originally Posted by SPN

Interesting thoughts and a book that provides one view:

When it comes to the safety of US presidents, the line between reckless accidents and deliberate acts is not so clear. In the case of John F. Kennedy, the stunning inadequacy of Secret Service protective measures on November 22, 1963 have been the subject of broad speculation and debate for half a century.

Apparently, this was not the result of a one-day lapse. In his book, The Echo From Dealey Plaza, former Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden reveals not only the reckless behavior of his fellow agents charged with protecting Kennedy—but also their personal animosity toward the president and the policies he implemented.

The Secret Service actions in Dealy Plaza that day were deemed to have been proper based on the standards of the day. The Kennedy Commission refers to several Secret Service requests to the White House to keep the hard top on the car, but Kennedy wanted to be visible to the people.

[SPN]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

The Secret Service actions in Dealy Plaza that day were deemed to have been proper based on the standards of the day. The Kennedy Commission refers to several Secret Service requests to the White House to keep the hard top on the car, but Kennedy wanted to be visible to the people.

I was 4 when Kennedy was shot. My parents hate the Kennedy's more than any other family who has ever inhabited the planet, yet I remember my mother's shock and tears as she watched the news reports.

I've never read the book reference I found but interesting perspectives.

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by SPN

I was 4 when Kennedy was shot. My parents hate the Kennedy's more than any other family who has ever inhabited the planet, yet I remember my mother's shock and tears as she watched the news reports.

I've never read the book reference I found but interesting perspectives.

I hated him too but I was so upset I would have volunteered for the service if needed to find the the fuckers. That's the difference between the American values we had then and the ones people have now. I would fight to defend the president whether it's Bush, Obama, Santorum or Paul. Hell I'd fight to the death to defend any of them - and I can't stand some of them - they disgust me. But, as Americans, we were taught respect.

All you have to do is read CP to know that's all out the window.

[Bubble Burster]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

I hated him too but I was so upset I would have volunteered for the service if needed to find the the fuckers. That's the difference between the American values we had then and the ones people have now. I wopuld fight to defend the president whether it's Bush, Obama, Santorum or Paul. Hell I'd fight to the death to defend any of them - and I can't stand some of them - they disgust me. But, as Americans, we were taught respect.

All you have to do is read CP to know that's all out the window.

Rings hollow considering your choice of user_names.

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

Rings hollow considering your choice of user_names.

What has that got to do with fighting to avenge the taking of a life?

My username? Your 'stated' religion?

Maybe your fake words ring hollow considering your 'stated' religion.

And maybe the hollow sound is because there's nothing to stop the ringing between your ears.

[Bubble Burster]

Originally Posted by Vagitarian

What has that got to do with fighting to avenge the taking of a life?

My username? Your 'stated' religion?

Maybe your fake words ring hollow considering your 'stated' religion.

And maybe the hollow sound is because there's nothing to stop the ringing between your ears.

Your post said "...as Americans we are taught respect..."

Do you really believe that a rude, misogynistic name like "Vagitarian" communicates respect? Not to mention your disrespectful tone to me.

Just what are you suggesting about my use of the term "stated religion"? Now you don't like the words I use? So now I'm supposed to consult with you about my religious preference, and also about how long I hang around after the funeral of a friend. Any other orders for me? Next time I'll be sure to consult you before I post anything.

A truly respectful person, as you claim to be, would not be so judgmental. I do find it fascinating that you repeat words back to me that I may have used years ago. Do you print out hard copies of everything I post?

Do have fantasies? Does your neighbor's dog talk to you? Should I be telling security to watch out for cars with California plates?

[Vagitarian]

Originally Posted by Bubble Burster

Your post said "...as Americans we are taught respect..."

Do you really believe that a rude, misogynistic name like "Vagitarian" communicates respect? Not to mention your disrespectful tone to me.
Rude? Misogynistic? Wanna go there again? You tried the same thing with the 'F' word regarding Fucktard's name just because she didn't agree with you - and you use the 'F' word in your posts whenever you wish. Can you spell hypocrit?
W/ regards to my username, let me school ya on the suffix - arian:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/-arian
1) Believer in something
2) Advocate of something
W/ regards to 'tone', I'm laughing at that as hard as ILA did when his 'tone' was once cited by someone.
Just what are you suggesting about my use of the term "stated religion"? Now you don't like the words I use? So now I'm supposed to consult with you about my religious preference, and also about how long I hang around after the funeral of a friend. Any other orders for me? Next time I'll be sure to consult you before I post anything.

A truly respectful person, as you claim to be, would not be so judgmental. I do find it fascinating that you repeat words back to me that I may have used years ago. Do you print out hard copies of everything I post?

Do have fantasies? Does your neighbor's dog talk to you? Should I be telling security to watch out for cars with California plates?

You're running between 55 & 60 posts per day. That's one every 7 1/2 minutes of an 8 hour day. Did you give your password to someone?
LOL! (by the way, APPL is still rocking...)[/COLOR][/color]I'm going out of town for 4 days. Unlike your fake trips of 2 weeks where you fly to funerals in Belgium and back in 4 days (LOL!) this will be a 4 day trip. I won't rant about racist, hate-filled rants like you did, knock yourself out 56 times a day. The 'Steelhead' gotta be bummed that their daily comedy show has disappeared. [/b]