Gamunex vs. Gammagard opinions

Interviewing w/ Baxter to sell Gammagard. Appears that Gamunex has a pretty strong hold in the territory. Have heard that Gamunex and Gammagard are the leaders in IVIG. Wanted opinions on selling Gammagard vs. Gamunex. My Gamunex friend tells me that Baxter is not well regarded in the IVIG community. Any thoughts?

As a patient I have only used Gamunex. The AAAAI makes a big deal about changing brands, it is not something we take lightly. Personally I think the only reason a patient would change is the rare occasion where they have a reaction . . . and Gamunex seems to have the best track record of adverse reaction or there are insurance or supply issues. (Gamunex is more expensive) It is also very low in IgA which seems to be a major cause of adverse reaction. Gamunex is one of the few products that is appropriate for patients with diabetes. It should also be approved for subq in the spring, the second product to be approved.

yoyu may be a patient, but im guessing you also work in Talecris marketing. who the fuck do you think you are kidding? stop trolling our cafepharma board and get back to getting the IM moving!

No I really am just a patient . . and shareholder

Originally Posted by Anonymous

As a patient I have only used Gamunex. The AAAAI makes a big deal about changing brands, it is not something we take lightly. Personally I think the only reason a patient would change is the rare occasion where they have a reaction . . . and Gamunex seems to have the best track record of adverse reaction or there are insurance or supply issues. (Gamunex is more expensive) It is also very low in IgA which seems to be a major cause of adverse reaction. Gamunex is one of the few products that is appropriate for patients with diabetes. It should also be approved for subq in the spring, the second product to be approved.

True, IgA content is very, very important to many of us but I found that the lowest IgA content is the new Privijen. I looked up the info on the website and saw that it also is safer for diabetic patients because it doesnt have sucrose like my last drug did. I am going to ask my dr about it next month before I get too busy with Christmas.
Has anyone tried it or been on it?

and there is a super low gammagard S/D product that is in very short supply

Originally Posted by Anonymous

True, IgA content is very, very important to many of us but I found that the lowest IgA content is the new Privijen. I looked up the info on the website and saw that it also is safer for diabetic patients because it doesnt have sucrose like my last drug did. I am going to ask my dr about it next month before I get too busy with Christmas.
Has anyone tried it or been on it?

brought to you by your local CSL rep. Go back to your own board, your info isn't even accurate, Flebogamma DIF has lower IgA, but it's a 5%. 99% of pts tolerate all the IGIV's.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

brought to you by your local CSL rep. Go back to your own board, your info isn't even accurate, Flebogamma DIF has lower IgA, but it's a 5%. 99% of pts tolerate all the IGIV's.

Oh come on . . as a patient there is a huge difference among IViG products. The AAAAI has even stated that all the product are not the same. Talecris has an ad that says they are the best tolerated - - it's backed by research.

Gammagard S/D has >2.2 ug/mL in a 5% solution and Flebogamma 5% has < 50 ug/mL (that's the specification value.) Gammaplex (the new produdt form Bio Products labs) has <4 mcg/mL the spec value is <10%

Here is a chart from the IDF, http://www.primaryimmune.org/patient...ivig_chart.pdf

Let's not try and scam each other.

I'm not a CSL rep, I'm a Gamunex patient

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Oh come on . . as a patient there is a huge difference among IViG products. The AAAAI has even stated that all the product are not the same. Talecris has an ad that says they are the best tolerated - - it's backed by research.

Gammagard S/D has >2.2 ug/mL in a 5% solution and Flebogamma 5% has < 50 ug/mL (that's the specification value.) Gammaplex (the new produdt form Bio Products labs) has <4 mcg/mL the spec value is <10%

Here is a chart from the IDF, http://www.primaryimmune.org/patient...ivig_chart.pdf

Let's not try and scam each other.

I'm not a CSL rep, I'm a Gamunex patient

Look at the updated charts - flebo is the lowest when it comes to IgA. Stick with Gammunex or Flebo. Flebo has lower adverse events because its 5% vs 10%. But if you are in a hurry and want a 10% go to Gammunex until Flebo comes out in a 10%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Look at the updated charts - flebo is the lowest when it comes to IgA. Stick with Gammunex or Flebo. Flebo has lower adverse events because its 5% vs 10%. But if you are in a hurry and want a 10% go to Gammunex until Flebo comes out in a 10%

Did Grifols some how magically remove sorbitol from there product? As I have seen charts with Dsorbitol as a stabilizer. Plus discussing IgA content is laughable as most hospitals don't test for IgA sensitivity, all IVIG have IgA to some extent. Infusion nurse here and for the most part most of the products I have seen that work the best are the 10% Gammunex/Gammaked. Very odd market now because you can get Gammunex for less. This is confusing that Grifol's would buy Talecris and then not divest Flebogamma, now they have two products competing against each other, the only good news is you can get Gammaked for about the same price as Flebogamma.

Gammaplex is the way to go, or carimune, flebo, privi, gammaked, octogam.... You all blow. Let the price wars begin.

sorbitol, snorbitol. it's don't matter none to patients or docs. They write scripts for IVIG , not by brand name you idiots.

I agree it doesnt matter. I have interviewed with both companies. Both seem to think its about the clinical aspects of the products which make each one better then the other. ARE YOU SERIOUS! IVIG is IVIG with minor differences. Its about Price, Contract and Reimbursement. If you think any different then your stupid!

I just wanted to say I went into IVIG very naive, not knowing the side effects or risks. I took Carimune monthly for 3 years then I got blood clots in my neck and lungs. I was told it was from the IVIG and to be sure and only use non-sucrose based IVIG in future. I am now on Coumadin indefinitely and much wiser now... Restarted IVIG recently with Gamunex.