Manufacturing forming union?

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  1. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Is it true plants are going to union-ize? Being discussed in another thread, what would be the benefit?
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    This might be the dumbest thread
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Would it affect field sales?
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    inform yourself.

    http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/union2.pdf

    http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/oml01
    The massive demographic and socioeconomic changes that began in Texas in the 1960s have had a dramatic negative impact on the role of organized labor. The state's population increased by almost 90 percent between 1960 and 1995. Since a good portion of this growth was a result of adult immigration, the labor force grew at a slightly higher rate than the general increase. The movement of women, many of whom were not prime breadwinners, into the labor force, together with the fact that half the population growth in the 1980s was Hispanic, brought a need for different organizational strategies that, even by union admission, have been slow to develop. A successful effort to unionize the new workforce occurred at the four Fojtasck plants in the Dallas area. The Amalgamated Clothing and Textile Workers merged with the International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union in 1995 and successfully organized the workforce, which predominantly consisted of legal immigrants from Mexico and El Salvador, at the Fojtasck plants. The eventual results were better minimum wages, better benefits, and better working conditions for the plant employees.
    Another cause of the decline of organized labor, equally difficult to evaluate with precision, has been the increasing conservative bent of the state and national social and political climates. Little doubt exists that the influence of unionized labor in Austin has weakened. Though unions no longer have the political clout they once wielded in areas of former strength, such as Beaumont-Port Arthur and Houston, other factors have been at work. The National Labor Relations Board, under Republican administrations and those of Democrats James E. Carter and William J. Clinton, has been a less than vigorous supporter of unionization. In numerous cases where unions won initial representative elections, for example, the NLRB has allowed company-initiated appeals and legal proceedings to drag on for months and even years. In industries with highly mobile employees such as poultry processing and retail trade, the end result has often been decertification after the original pro-union workers have moved on. Perhaps more basic to the decline of union influence have been the fundamental changes that began in the 1970s and greatly accelerated in the early 1980s. During the troubled decade following 1982, employment in those sectors of the economy with few union members (wholesale and retail trade, finance, service, and government) grew by a little over 1.25 million. Workers in those sectors where unions have been traditionally strong (mining and oil, construction, manufacturing, and transportation), on the other hand, declined by about 370,000. By the early 1990s only 21 percent of the labor force worked in highly unionized industries, compared to 47 percent twenty years before.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Go ahead and form a union. Just google Detroit first and see how well that worked out for them.
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Lots of good unions that protect employee rights, look at Boeing
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Unions have trashed industries but it would just be awesome to fight and win with these Alcon management bozos
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    The degreed engineers at Boeing even have a Union, it is a "Professional Association" yep just looked it up based upon above post, so it is not just manufacturing people that would benefit from protection from an employer who does not care for people and their families and took away all the hard earned benefits from legacy Alcon workers and their families. How do we get it going?
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    go ahead and get married. just google divorce rate in red states and see how well that's working out for the family unit.
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    The red state blue state thing is used by politicians to divide us so that they may gain more power. I see that you believe the one party (Republicrat) system we have now is worthwhile. Vote third party.
     
  11. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I checked you are right!
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    i'm only using the language you all are familiar with.

    demopublican, republicrat, inverse totalitarianism, corporatism...all hues of the same game currently being played in the us.

    what would be a real change is birth of a real center-left movement that actually puts human rights first and foremost to all other special interests. if you can solve that problem alone in america, you will get much more harmonious society.

    manufacturing consent - from 1988
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzufDdQ6uKg

    still relevant today
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    clearly someone from the company continues to try and defocus this discussion from formation of a union at Alcon, lets get er done!
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Right? Because someone deserves $100 an hour for mopping the floor and 85% of their salary forever if they are laid off. Yes, a union would protect you for this. Novartis would shut Fort Worth down in a millisecond if a union were formed and move production to China or India. Don't kid yourself.
     
  15. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I sure hope so.
     
  16. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    This is positive news. Excellent update. Bring on the teamsters now.
     
  17. Anonymous

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  18. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Seems like a good analogy.... Prisoners .... Current Alcon environment... Yep you hit the nail on the head!
     
  19. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    thanks.
    exactly the effect i was aiming for. :p
     
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    The difference is that you are prisoners by choice, you are free to leave whenever you want.