2014 Pfizer Medical Plans?

Discussion in 'Pfizer' started by Anonymous, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    Sad thing is, America suffers. People like yourself forget that we are American citizens first Dems/Rep second. Deadbeats need to get with the program and get moving. Uber wealthy need to stop hoarding wealth.

    Prior to the ACA a company could choose to offer benefits or not offer benefits. The ACA didn't allow a company to do anything. Unless you're implying companies will drop better, more costly plans, and sell their employees on the ACA as a good option. At which point you should go back and read the PP's assertion that companies will do anything to enrich the execs.

    The quality of healthcare will not be lowered in the US. Trillions of dollars will still flow into the healthcare system. More money will be spent caring for people, HC systems are motivated by $ why would quality of care go down? Sure less tests will be run, and Providers will potentially earn less due to quality measures not being met. But a patient seeing a doctor for a chronic disease every 3 months and not seeing any improvement is a drain. Docs due their part, counsel rx, if a patient fails to do their part (diet/exercise/try to improve health) let them. Only we won't pay for your care. Your assertion is a myth.

    What the ACA WILL do is speed up the failure of the US economy. This program will be such a drain on the economy. Every year we'll be having the same argument about increasing the debt ceiling. The difference will be which party refuses to increase the limit. Next time it'll be the Dems trying to de-rail a Republican President. Thank god for that.
     

  2. Anonymous

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    Now stop right there. Saying we are American citizens first then Dems/Reps is a socialist attitude that is downright un-American. We are not all in this together. Conservatives love the power and materialism that America is but they despise all other Americans. They really hate them and will fight to prevent them from getting affordable healthcare.

    Currently 45,000 Americans a year die because they have inadequate healthcare coverage. Millions have no healthcare coverage at all. One-half of all personal bankruptcies are due to healthcare bills but as none of these people are Conservatives they don't count. That's why Boehner is determined to stop poor Americans from getting affordable healthcare coverage. They don't count. Even though our healthcare system ranks #17 of the world for effectiveness and is over twice as expensive as other first-world countries it does take care of the rich very, very well and that's all that counts in America.

    Sad but true.....
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Will there still be free Viagra for retirees under the Rx plan?
     
  4. Anonymous

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    If I had my way, I'd get rid of all employees like you who come here on a rampage about those who have retired after giving many years to this company. As far as what I cost medicare, you have no idea what I cost medicare, nor do you know anyone else. You need to take a chill pill and relax. You a bitter person.
     
  5. Anonymous

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    What complete, unmitigated, revolving B.S. Tell me: Why would Boehner be personally determined to deny health care to anyone? Tell me: Out of what dark orifice did you pull the 45,000 figure? For that matter, where did your other "data'' come from? You really should consider moving to a haven of equality like, perhaps, Cuba, Russia, or maybe North Korea.
    I guess your data explains why we see so many Americans striving to cross the border into Mexico and why we see so many of our citizens moving to the Mideast. And don't forget the legions moving to Russia to become waitresses or bartenders. Did you not make budget or something to put you in such a foul mood?
     
  6. Anonymous

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    The 45,000 deaths per year came from a 2009 study done by Harvard.

    The % of bankruptcies caused by health care bills came from a Businessweek article. They actually reported it at 62%.

    The census bureau calculated that in 2011 there were 48 million Americans who did not have health insurance.

    So this is real information available on the web in seconds. It's only BS to Conservatives like you who refuse to acknowledge inconvenient facts because they don't give a damn about other Americans.
     
  7. Anonymous

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    I sincerely believe that there is a subset of people who survive of what might be called "moral orgasms", loosely defined as that shiver of satisfaction derived from the feeling that they are morally superior to their fellow beings.They need it, they thrive on it and wear it like a crown.
    Wallow around in your sanctimony if it keeps you going. I fine it pathetic.
     
  8. Anonymous

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    Part of the retiree healthcare package for 2014 is available now. Still will choose between BCBS and UHC (if under 65) and the Medicare buy-up if over 65. Same deductible and a slight increase in maximum out of pocket. Still Pfizer drugs at no cost and a copay for non-Pfizer. The only thing we don't know yet is how much the premiums will increase. Last year my premium went from $111.00 to $114.57/month. No telling what it will be this year but I'm betting it will STILL be a bargain! I cover only myself since my spouse has Medicare and a supplemental policy from his previous employer.
     
  9. Anonymous

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    The Church, individuals & communities are better equipped to take care of the poor than BIG GOVERNMENT!
     
  10. Anonymous

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    My premium for the Medicare Carve Out (high deductible, little pay) plan in 2013 for myself and spouse was $407. Remember, this is in addition to what is paid to the government for the Medicare coverage (>$230/mo). Dreading to learn what the cost will be in 2014.
     
  11. Anonymous

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    For retirees, move them all into PUBLIC healthcare exchanges as soon as possible. The notion that 25-30 years of work at Pfizer entitles a person to get 25-30 years of a very comfortable retirement paid for by Pfizer is dead.
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    Just so you can understand this concept. The retiree medical health plan runs from age 55-65. At age 65 a retiree is forced onto medicare as their primary, and Pfizer pays as the secondary only. Retiree medical is not like a pension plan. Its a promise, not a contractual obligation like a pension, meaning the company can end the medical retiree program at any time, and eventually they will.
     
  12. Anonymous

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    What a typical self-rictious idiot. Its not about not wanting to support the poor, its about not wanting to support the corrupt. Get a life and preach your no-nothing nonsense to someone too stupid to understand
     
  13. Anonymous

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    There was a time when pharma retirees got completely free health care. That ended for my company in 1987 (this company was assimilated by the Blue Borg much later). After that, monthly retiree healthcare premiums at first were tiny or non-existant if you had 28 years of service or more. That was for a really good network plan plus you could get dental and vision coverage cheaply. Even today some of these retirees only pay $150 a month. Then a few years ago Pfizer switched to a whole new retiree medical plan where the only choice for new retirees was an 80-20 plan for $600 a month (husband-wife) and which ran out after about 10 years (that timeframe varies by retiree). Since there's a $4,000 deductible I'll be spending $11,000 a year before I get a penny out of my Pfizer retiree health plan. No dental and no vision.

    It's increasingly obvious that the easy and comfortable retirements enjoyed by the generations before the baby boomers were easy and comfortable in large part because they got free or very cheap healthcare, mostly paid for by somebody else. That won't be the case for those of us yet to retire. We're told we will need $250K to cover our healthcare costs in retirement. The good old days of easy retirement are gone (of course they're still here and even better for the One Percent). Generations X and Y are truly screwed. They won't get to retire at all.
     
  14. Anonymous

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    Just got notice for my medical renewal yesterday..So much on this sight is BS...
     
  15. Anonymous

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    The church? Are you smoking dope?
     
  16. Anonymous

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    You have to remember when he says "The Church, individuals & communities are better equipped to take care of the poor than BIG GOVERNMENT!" it's just Conservative dogma mindlessly and endlessly trumpeted. The fact that it does not and cannot work in today's world is never going to change this mindless repetition.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    The numbers have arrived. My premium has gone from $114.77 to $144.62. Seems quite reasonable to me. I thought it would be much worse!
     
  18. Anonymous

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    Pfizer Legacy Retiree here. My premium (for two medicare eligible adults) for the base Medicare Carve Out Plan went from $407 to $475/month. And, this pays literally nothing. PFE is offering the Medicare Buy Up Plan: went from $525 to $575. This is plus what the government charges each of us for the medicare premium.
     
  19. Anonymous

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    WOW-Wyeth retiree here and my premium for just myself for the Medicare Buy Up plan went from 59.77 to 74.62!!!
     
  20. Anonymous

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    From this post and some others, it would seem Pfizer Legacy retirees got the short end of medical care. It's surely not what we had been told to expect from Pfizer for all those years we worked toward retirement.