Who is left at Endo

Is Dave Holveck still the CEO at Endo? If not, who is? What about Larry Romaine or Ron Jackson (the wannabe National Sales Director)? Is there a National Sales Director (I hope it's not Ron)?

 

Your mom

 

Thanks Ron! I guess you're still an RD. What about Larry & Dave?

 

Looks like you have been hiding under a rock or just being truly innovative and not listening to anyone on this board till today .. just like the management at Endo

The list of who's gone from Endo may help shed light on who's left at Endo

Let's see ...gone from Endo=endless but let's try

Holveck (fooled 'em good)
Gergel (built absolutely nothing)
McHugh (copy JnJ w/o purpose)
Tierney (suck the room dry & expense it) & her bunch of wild pigs (morons and ass-kissers)
Marv (soon to starve)

Left at Endo (whoa, shiny car wash w/parking privileges):

Rajiv (waiting for the big sell-off)
& his Malvern crew on the Titanic (sinking off the coast of Ireland)
including
Cunningham (lemme hire your man)
Lortie (c'mon Barbie let's go .. sniff some Lido)
blah blah---your turn reader! Add some names!

RIP ENDP

 

When did Marv leave (or get let go?)

 

Thanks....I haven't been on CP for years....what about Ron Jackson & Larry Romaine?

 

oh yeah...
gone! (Ron)
iceberg left us (Romaine)
for higher stakes (Butcher)
and no clinical/pharmecon brief left either
bloodbath in research

Bean counters stayed on ... even as most sales, mktg, market access, bus dev, finance, legal, regulatory and ..... wait for this ....HR ...were let go!

Poor Paladin, woe betide Auxilium if it happens, Fortesta's done and Aveed is dead now that the FDA has come out with their warning on low-T

sheer pain ... what a killer! Even the luck of the Irish won't help it now, sell now Raj, make some silva!

 

MK must have known about BL's secret life to have survived as long as he did. He was so overmatched and under-qualified. Raj and Don figured it out.

 

Don't forget the asshole who wrote this post is still here! What a loser!

 

I just tendered my resignation last week for a much better opportunity. I can't believe I stayed so long. I finally opened my eyes and realized that there are greener pasteurs out there. I highly encourage you all to look outside the window, then seriously consider walking out the door. This company has been holding many of us back.

 

This post is one of the most accurate that I've read in a long time. I've been gone for almost 2 years and I can't believe how much my career has improved. I'm out of pharmaceutical and with a biotech company selling a complex medication. If I wouldn't have left and gained some other experience, I would have never been hired. Not to mention my salary increased 25 k with my move! Seriously folks, you need to look at what is out there because there is definitely a better life after Endo!

 

You stated in your paragraph, "Biotech" and "complex medication". I got news for you but, you're still a pharma rep! I don't care how you spin it or rationalize the word biotech, you're still a pharma rep selling to doctors and delivering those lunches just like the rest of us. Get off your high horse, ass muncher!

 

Pharma rep that's making $25k more than what was earned at Endo. I'll keep sample dropping and delivering lunches any day for a $25k increase.

 

Ok, what the poster who left endo for "greener pastures" failed to tell you he was making 45k as an entry level rep. When he left and was bumped up to the industry standards of living in a big city territory. His now 70k is not the big of a salary for pharma.

 

For your information, when I left Endo, I was making 95 k as my base salary and now I'm making 120k and 40k in bonus. So you can rationalize my advice all you want or put down my suggestions if that makes you feel better. I will tell you this though, when I interviewed for many jobs, selling to pain management wasn't considered complex skills. I had to gain additional buy and bill elsewhere before landing this job. And before you say anything, I was a top performer with multiple awards while at Endo. So for the idiot that said I'm just a drug rep, I'd like to see you land this job ... oh that's right, you are still at Endo ... lol.

 

Statements like this one is the exact reason why you are still at Endo. Who would ever want someone with such a shitty attitude?

 

I am regretful that I started this thread (09/04/14). When I was a DM w/Endo, I never posted anything on CP (though I read it!). I only came onto CP b/c I heard about the Lidoderm fine and I was curious to read the "buzz".
I enjoyed almost every minute of the 33 years I was in the Pharma industry (with three different companies), I enjoyed travelling ~six times a year, seeing different places (getting a break from the family); I enjoyed working in NYC and the interactions I had with most of my reps; I LOVED the lunches (not w/MDs, but w/reps at fine restaurants); I certainly valued the income, Presidents' Award Trips, and other Awards & recognition from the company. I can honestly say that working for a Pharma company beats "working for a living" - there's nothing like it. I can also say that it's all the same, regardless of the company, the title you're given, or the responsibilities for which you are held accountable.
When I was unceremoniously separated from Endo due to the Lidoderm debacle, I didn't immediately pursue another Pharma position due to personal health reasons, but after being away from the industry for about a year, I was able to pull my head "out of the sand" and view the industry for what it has become.
When I started in 1980, the Pharma industry was a relatively ethical position and the industries were a genuinely beneficial contributor; and part of; the health care community! Now, the Pharma industry is a "no holes barred", profit ONLY motivated industry. When I started, Pharma companies voluntarily chose not to launch products b/c the risks outweighed the benefits (they were also making so much profit that they couldn't count the money fast enough). Now, they own the FDA, launch dangerous products, warn the patients and let the chips fall where they may. I'm only proud of the first half of my Pharma career, the second half (when the companies were mutating into the immoral profit-mongers that they now are) I was in too deep to realize what was going on, I didn't recognize that I was part of an industry that didn't care about the patients. Off-label promotion is as old as dirt - most of the time, off-label promotion/prescribing isn't detrimental to patients (MDs do it all the time) it's just against the rules. It's the approved indications that are harmful now (or at least the danger outweighs the benefits) and the current/previous products treat the conditions just as well, or better than the "new" products - but they're generic now. Lipitor was and IS the best product for the treatment of high cholesterol, but it's now generic, so they're launching inferior products b/c they're name brand and profitable.
Someone is always going to be willing to become a Pharmaceutical Sales Rep, DM, RD, NSM, VP, CEO etc. - so if you are in the industry, stay and reap the profits (at least you're not an attorney!). If I wasn't canned, I'd probably still be there, I just can't go back.

 

I have 30 years of experience within the industry, and I have to agree. When I started, physicians were happy to give me a few minutes, and often would actually argue, ask for data, remember what we talked about, interact and eventually find a place to try the drug because we could actually sell the drug...because we knew enough medicine to authentically interact with them. Now we just deliver samples and drop in with lunch...if they deem us "lunchworthy". I agree with this DM's assessment. The industry managed to kill itself by treating the customer like they were buying a used car, and like the company was selling a used car. Now they are selling dead cats, but the power of denial is strong!!

 

to the above poster who left endo and is making 25K more in "biotech". I have been in the industry nearly 20 years, the last 3 in biotech before I was recently downsized. I say, congratulations on the move and the increase in your salary- that's what it is all about and I am happy for anyone that can improve their situation. But, having been in pharma and biotech at 3 different companies, I've decided there is no difference. Selling a "complex" biologic drug to specialists isn't any different than selling a bp med to a fp/IM when it comes down to it. The only thing that is different is the pay. Not that there is anything wrong with either- as previously stated, if you are dropping samples and bringing lunch for $150K+, good for you! You've also got a car, plenty of flexibility and a great QOL. Well done. Let the rest of us know how you did it because if you are out of work like many of us are, can be brutal trying to find something.

 

I am the above poster and thanks for the positive response, which is practically unheard of on this site. Do you have buy and bill experience with your former biotech company? That seems to be a deal breaker for many biotech companies. If so, we could maybe coordinate our efforts in finding something for you.