A great day for America!

Discussion in 'Pfizer' started by VOCS, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:48 PM.

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  1. VOCS

    VOCS Guest

    Greetings and blessings to all sentient beings. Greece? This is a joke right? I just don't see the punch line. If you are worried about spending money on healthcare(by the way, that money would be spent with or without the new health plan), then how can you justify the money we're spending on two failed, unnecessary wars? And why weren't you complaining about gw's budgets and off-line items? I guess you think we're a third world country and can't afford health care for our citizens. According to you, only the rich and a few lucky middle class will have health coverage. Some world you live in. I'll bet you miss Hitler don't you?
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I don't understand the Hitler reference. Could you please explain?
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    The future of healthcare in America:


    Skyrocketing Massachusetts health costs could foreshadow high price of ObamaCare
    By Aleksandra Kulczuga - The Daily Caller 03/23/10 at 2:16 PM



    When Mitt Romney criticized the Obama health-care program earlier this week, leading Democrats responded by pointing out that, as governor of Massachusetts several years ago, Romney himself presided over the enactment of strikingly similar reforms. RomneyCare and ObamaCare aren’t so different, Democrats argued. If you liked one, you can’t attack the other.

    Fair enough. So how is the Massachusetts health-care system these days?

    Like the bill that President Obama signed on Sunday, the 2006 Massachusetts plan was sold to voters on the now-familiar promise that it would reduce costs and lower unnecessary emergency room visits. That’s not what happened.

    Since the bill became law, the state’s total direct health-care spending has increased by a remarkable 52 percent. Medicaid spending has gone from less than $6 billion a year to more the $9 billion. Many consumers have seen double-digit percentage increases in their premiums.

    Even more striking, the 2006 law has done little to ease the burden on emergency rooms, a central goal of all heath care reform plans. A report by the Boston Globe found that in the first two years of the program, the state’s ER costs actually rose by 17 percent. “They said that ER visits would drop by 75 percent, and it hasn’t been even close to that,” said State Treasurer Tim Cahill, who is currently running for governor as an Independent. “It hasn’t changed people’s habits. It hasn’t been successful at getting people to use less expensive alternatives.”

    According to Cahill, Massachusetts is still afloat thanks only to generous federal subsidies, Medicaid waivers and gobs of recent stimulus money. “I’m worried that now that this national plan has passed, some of that federal money will start drying up — that the feds might tell us, ‘No, sorry you can’t have this money because we have to go cover Texas now,’” Cahill told The Daily Caller.

    Hospitals, particularly those that serve the poor, have lost so much money under the plan that a number of them are now suing the state in an effort to stay in business. “While health-care reform has brought the state closer to universal coverage,” a group of six Massachusetts hospitals filing suit explained in a recent statement, “the unintended consequence of that success is many … hospitals are experiencing significant shortfalls in payments as they treat additional patients whose public insurance doesn’t cover the full cost of care.”

    The problem is not unique to Massachusetts; hospitals around the country have battled state governments over reimbursement rates for years. But there’s no question the 2006 law has made things worse. One prominent teaching hospital in the state, Boston Medical Center, filed suit earlier in the year, claiming vastly increased caseloads and a state reimbursement rate of only 64 cents on the dollar, leading to an annual shortfall of $181 million.

    The problem, the hospitals allege, is that the state has diverted funds from reimbursements to prop up health plans for the uninsured. Under state law, those plans must in effect be “Cadillac” models, loaded with mandates for costly nonessentials like in-vitro fertility treatment. The plans are expensive, and therefore heavily subsidized. Hospitals are bearing much of the cost.

    “Massachusetts changed everything about the health-care debate because the one thing about Massachusetts that actually worked well was getting people coverage,” said Kevin Wrege, a former Massachusetts state insurance regulator and president of Pulse Issues and Advocacy who consults with the Council for Affordable Health Insurance. “If you provide it and it’s free or near free, people will come. The problem is that the costs in Massachusetts are stunningly high.”

    So what does this mean for the rest of the country, now that the Obama administration has imposed a similar plan on the rest of us? “Massachusetts,” said Wrege, “is the canary in the coal mine.”



    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/03/23/skyrocketing-massachusetts-health-costs-could-foreshadow-high-price-of-obamacare/#ixzz0j82MsYkL
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    YOU FUCKING GEEKS ARE OUT OF CONTROL! POLITICAL THREAD! Go to the fucking political thread section!
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    guarentee??? I guarantee you are an ignorant jackass!
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Sure, entitlement as long as it doesn't come out of your pocket!!!
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    You will notice that nothing in the bill requires people on Medicaid to pay a dime out of pocket. Totally free healthcare and they are increasing the poverty level to bring more people on the government dole. Another 13 million medicaid patients means another 13 million loyal Democrats. That is where the extra taxes, fees, fines, and Medicare cuts are going. And all of us who have our own healthcare and pay taxes are going to pay for this. If you think it is only the people making more than $200K you well then you are not paying attention. And soon they will be able to see your doctor and be treated in your hospital with the same access to medications, medical devices, every quality measure the same. And you will feel so much better knowing that you have to wait behind 13 million more of these clueless freeloaders. Because it is only Social Justice not welfare.
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Well put #27. King Obama was going to make his mark no matter what. The beauty of is short sighted effort will result in this silent revolution and he and Jimmy Carter will continue to be a punch line for Letterman and Leno. My hope is for the next elections is to actually vote for a change. Not Kings version of socialism, but change for the sake of eliminating entitlement. My dream would be to eliminate welfare. In my state they have threatened to limit the welfare duration to 60 months. How in the world can someone not get their shit together in 5 years, when the state pays for you to go to college or a technical training. Of course this idea of limiting welfare was not well received by the lazy bastards nor the democrats running this welfare state. How about we eliminate welfare. Those currently on it are forced to work for the "work corps" doing any type of trash pickup, minor construction, painting, providing babysitting at day care for their spawn, etc. Those that continue to not work are not allowed to vote, and will be fined and without payment will be forced into hard labor with all state prisoners. My idea is "cool hand Luke" type chain gangs. These people lose their rights, as they are only a drag on society and without a vote the bleedy heart liberals will not have folks to keep them in office.
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Isn't it nice that VOCs, the morbidly obese pharma pretender pops his head out of his mommys basement and posts his latest naive rant? VOCs your spelling has improved, but you still are an idiot. Be thankful for your liberal caretakers, you still can pretend you have worked in a job, while we foot your caretakers bill. What's going on in Salem? Any new posts for the Salem online news?
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Nice VOCs, you are back answering your own posts. You're the greatest....Idiot!
     
  11. VOCS

    VOCS Guest

    Greetings and blessings to all sentient beings. Nice to hear from you. I was worried you might "off" yourself when this landmark legislation was finally signed. Soon you will be able to recieve the psychiatric help you deserve.
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Pre-existing psychiatric conditions like you have won't be covered till 2014. That means FOUR MORE YEARS of your humorous but delusional proclamations of grandeur.
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Since VOC's whole life is "pretend" have some compassion. This is all he is able to do. Pretend he has intelligence. Pretend he has a connection to pharma. His world is only at his finger tips. Nothing has changed VOCs.

    But don't hold your breath. If ever there was a entitlement bill that had a chance of being overturned, this is the one.
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    So VOCs, do you live in Salem Oregon, or is it just one of you many online rant locations?
     
  15. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    President BARACK OBAMA was invited to address a major gathering of the American Indian Nation two weeks ago in upstate New York .

    He spoke for almost an hour about his plans for increasing every Native Americans present standard of living.

    He referred to his time as a U.S. Senator and how he had voted for every Native American issue that came to the floor of the Senate.

    Although President Obama was vague about the details of his plans, he seemed most enthusiastic and spoke eloquently about his ideas for helping his red sisters and brothers.
    At the conclusion of his speech, the Tribes presented Obama with a plaque inscribed with his new Indian name, Walking Eagle. The proud President then departed in his motorcade to a fundraiser, waving to the crowds.

    A news reporter later asked the group of chiefs how they came to select the new name they had given to the President.
    They explained that Walking Eagle is the name given to a bird so full of shit it can no longer fly.

    VOC is the new Walking Eagle
     
  16. VOCS

    VOCS Guest

    Greetings and blessings to all sentient beings. Its VOCS. Thank you for your constant devotion.
     
  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Now THAT is funny !!!
     
  18. VOCS

    VOCS Guest

    More vocs history
     
  19. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Selectively posting your bull shit posts as if there is some repeat value when there was none originally?

    You are a self-obsessed fool.

    Your real life must be incredibly sad.