Clusters 1 through 4

Discussion in 'Pfizer' started by Anonymous, Sep 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM.

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  1. Anonymous

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    Almost every thread concerns IS. What about PC? Are other states having Town Halls like FL? Hope some news leaks re each cluster. Timeline? RIF likely?
     

  2. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Nobody will predict a % RIF or timeline. No leaks tells me that PCP won't be slashed like many think.
     
  3. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    1 rep for Xeljanz, Lyrica and Celebrex is all that's needed. Check please!
     
  4. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Maybe a #2 rep to carry Viagra so rheumatology patients don't come in stiff-ler.
     
  5. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Is no leaks what you're basing your statement on? Hope you use better criteria for financial decisions.

    Also, look back at other posts, plenty of time table and %RIF. Your theory is blown, that must mean PC will be gutted.
     
  6. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I think its pretty much guaranteed cluster 4 is going to go away!
     
  7. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Agreed that Cluster 4 is wiped out.. What else could it mean that Pristiq is going in the group of established and generic products that don't really need a rep! Seems to me the writing is on the wall.
     
  8. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    The interesting part about cluster 4 is that most of the reps are much older. Its almost like they knew it was coming and put everybody in there that they wanted to get rid of cause they cost too much money!
     
  9. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    ...But will they eliminate all Reps in that cluster, or pool the talent from all 4 clusters and then make placements?
     
  10. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Take all reps in geography, trained on growth products. Decide whom to keep, and train them on missing products. Some cluster 4 will stay as the have Lyrica already and are already covering a larger geography ( minimize customer disruption ). New York is already gearing up trainers for growth products. I wonder why ? Perhaps Eliquis and Lyrica in the same PC bag.
    Why not ?
     
  11. Anonymous

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    It's a safe bet that Cluster 2 will be gone, the greatly diluted thing that it is. The DM's in that Cluster are quietly sniffing around for other positions. Heard 1 wants to be a KAM. Toviaz really could have been something if anyone would have had the stones to let us really go out and sell it. There is no way to really sell ED products against each other anymore either.
     
  12. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I think Cluster 1 is fine
     
  13. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    What am I missing. Isn't Cl 2 Eliquis and Viagra? Sounds pretty viable to me.
     
  14. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    It's a Cluster all right...a cluster fxxk.
     
  15. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I think they meant Cluster 3 since they have Toviaz.
     
  16. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Cluster 4 is fine folks. Single point of accountability. More and more closed offices due to sunshine act. Every tenth of a point of market share growth for Pristiq is equal to millions of dollars profit. Cluster 4 is right sized, agile and has experience across all brands. Cluster 3 is in trouble and Cluster 1 will be hit the hardest. There are 6 cluster 1 reps overlapping with me. They only need 1.
     
  17. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    so when do you think we will hear? or when will things start to come out from "those in the know"??

    thanks for your thoughts.
     
  18. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    Why are we even talking about what reps get cut depending on the bag they currently carry? It's speculation and builds on our anxiety. It's going to be a large company structuring impacting all divisions. There will be three divisions. If you don't get cut in October then you might the next go around. Polish up your résumé and expect PFE to continue to change if you plan to stay!
     
  19. Anonymous

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    Cluster 3 and 4 being national sales forces with about 200 + reps each can, if they choose, be entirely eliminated by a mere phone call without expensive ZS input. Was done earlier for psych sales force I heard. Cluster1 and cluster4, because of Celebrex and Pristiq going to EPBU, face possible rif. Will they put clusters 1 and 4 and maybe 3 in a pool and go the ZS route? I find it hard to believe that no rif at all will happen. Maybe we'll know in November.
     
  20. Anonymous

    Anonymous Guest

    I find it hard to believe they will take reps off Celebrex and Pristiq. Even if they are in another division they will keep reps on them until the very last day.