How is the Hope and Change thing working?

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  1. Anonymous

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    I find conservatives fall into 1 of 3 categories - young/spoiled/naive college graduates who can't seem to recreate the cushy lifestyle their doting parents lavished on them. They can't move out of their parents house because they won't be able to pay for their own condo, Iphone, cable and car so they blame Obama for not giving them a better environment to get that $65,000 paycheck they need with no experience and a degree from a 2nd or 3rd tier school.
    public employee/union worker who blames affirmative action for the fact they never got the pay grade raise they deserve
    poor/stupid/bitter Fox News watchers who blame welfare recipients for getting all their tax dollars and have no idea how their tax dollars are really spent - again reference stupid.

    And the super rich who blame congress and the president for not giving them bigger tax breaks because THIS time they really, really would use it to create more jobs - they promise they really really would!
     

  2. Anonymous

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    above post is BRILLIANT!
     
  3. Anonymous

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    Super nerd alert!
     
  4. Anonymous

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    The real problem is not a republican or democrat thing. Its not Obama's fault or even Bush's fault. The problem is the entitlement culture in America that originated with all of the post WWII prosperity and the start of social security by FDR and the start of Medicare in the 1960's. When life expectancy was in the late 50's for the average American, when there were 34 working people supporting every social security recipient, and when healthcare spending was 3-5% of GDP, the system that is now in place worked beautifully.

    Manufacturing jobs were abundant, post secondary education was not a necessity for supporting a family, and the economy grew and kept pace with a booming population through the end of the 1990's, except for a few recessions that lasted between 18-24 months.

    Now, people are living into their eighties. Every social security recipient nowadays is being supported by 2 working people. Healthcare is 30% of GDP and rising every day. Technology has brought profound changes in productivity in the workplace, much more can be done with far fewer people. There is a burgeoning population of young, highly educated people in America with bleak job prospects. The problem we face today is demographic and due to a rising global economy and rapid growth in technology. It's NOT political, and right now the country is so polarized that nothing is being done.

    The way to solve the problem is to re-allocate labor resources back stateside by increasing import duties on places like China and India (no matter how angry that makes them). This country needs to end its addiction to cheap money and raise interest rates to stave off inflation that has already begun. This country needs to simplify and correct the tax code which allows large corporations to pay zero dollars in income tax and enables people to use loopholes and repatriation techniques that cheat the government out of billions of dollars.

    This country needs to create an oversight committee to prevent Medicare fraud, which accounts for an estimated 40% of all medicare expenditures instead of the idealistic and fatally flawed Obamacare proposal- fix the system we currently have and the ship could be righted almost immediately. The areas of government that are actually profitable need to be increased, not scaled back- for every $1 the country spends on trying to catch tax cheaters, government revenue increases by $10- some areas of government actually could be increased, other redundancies like the bureau of land management and the DNR need to be scaled way back. Finally, states should be given the opportunity to balance their own budgets. The problem is, the obvious choices to fix the country will be ignored, until the entitlement culture of this country changes
     
  5. Anonymous

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    1 of 3...and you list 4...guess that degree from a 2nd or 3rd tier school isn't working out.
     
  6. Anonymous

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    I couldn't resist - I thought of another category!
    Here's a 5th for you - from a top tier school that learns to count but rendered stupid from all the Fox news brainwashing - sort of a hybrid of 1 & 3
     
  7. Anonymous

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    You're right in saying the U.S. has an entitlement culture. It's so strong you'd think it was actually written in the constitution. It’s the bedrock of our society. We always want something for nothing, or to put it more accurately, we always want somebody else to pay for our handouts. That's why the Tea Baggers are the biggest hypocrites - they scream and scream about cutting government but then they say “Hey, don’t be cutting the government handouts that I get. You go and cut somebody else’s”.

    We need to cut out entitlements like Medicare and Social Security and let people live in poverty the way they used to. Of course, rich people will be just fine. That's the spirit of the U.S.A!
     
  8. Anonymous

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    to #107- Social security is not an entitlement to those of us who have paid into it for 30 years and are going to be means tested out of it. We are being robbed of what we were promised. If they take away our social security because we make too much. then PERA and any congressional, union, retirement fund etc should be taken back by the government regardless of wether it is in someone's name or not. There is not any difference.
     
  9. Anonymous

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    The two "bantering nerds" are back. Blah. Blah. Blah. Repeat. Guess that is how it goes in nerd world.
     
  10. Anonymous

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    While the "cool people" debate which domestic beer tastes the best and whether ford trucks are better than chevy trucks, we nerds actually debate things that affect policy and the future of our country. How was the bonfire this weekend, cool guy? How many fish did you catch? lol. The tragic thing is that its people like you who determine the outcome of elections. That is, if you can get away from turkey hunting or bow hunting for 1 day