Did Yasu say...No more layoffs?

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    English very bad! He said "no more payoffs",meaning forget about a decent severance!
     
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    Let's REALLY be honest here. Prevacid and Lupron would be great drugs even if blind monkeys sold it. There are way too many people taking credit for drugs that were successful IN SPITE of their efforts rather than BECAUSE of their efforts, as so many like to claim.

    Actos is the same thing. Takeda reps were and still are a joke. Ask Lilly, Kos, Cephalon, Sucampo, etc. Why do you think lightning has never struck again? Look at all the upper management people who think they made Actos what it is? Guess what.....it's the other way around.

    Get over yourselves people and pray for the REAL stars to shine.....the dumb luck of a unique molecule accidently falling into your lap.
     
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    You are so right. There is an old saying; "In business circles, success has many parents. Failure, however, is an orphan."
     
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    Can't fully agree with your post. I can completely agree with you post regarding Actos. One competitor pulled from the market and the other has a major negative lable change. As much as we tried to screw up marketing Actos, there is no way it could have not been a multi billion dollar product.

    On the other hand, Prevacid was the second PPI launched and went against the power house of Merck and Astra. With 3 additional competitors on Prevacids heals, that was a drug that needed to be sold and TAP did a great job. From securing managed care contracts against major competition to feet on the street reps pulling through at the physician level. Lupron had no market and TAP created that market. They also kept over 80% share in the face of huge pricing competition from AZ for Zoladex. Prevacid and Lupron took great marketing, sales and managed care to be successful product. Actos? Well blind monkeys could have driven that product to $3 billion a year.

    It is time to get rid of the Takeda Legacy dead weight and replace all possible with URL reps. Unfortunately, all we have left in managed markets RAM and NAM ranks is Takeda Legacy. That is one of the MAJOR reasons we are sucking now.

    It's time to purge all Takeda Legacy from this company. I know most out there agree.
     
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    Typical tapper. BLINDLY loyal even with all the evidence now in plain sight after 4 years of screwing up. Its like commenting on the beautiful view while the car is going over the cliff.
     
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    Why don't you want to sign your posts anymore #realtalk? Rezulin was pulled from the market before Actos was even approved. How does that constitute a competitor? Do you have a clue? Avandia was a GSK breadwinner who outspent us 3 to 1. Then it gets restricted. Ask a Celebrex rep how well they did when Vioxx went down- it hardly helps. Oh and then add cancer on top of that.

    "As much as we tried to screw up marketing Actos, there is no way it could have not been a multi billion dollar product." After not even getting the story straight. Are you serious??

    You claim that there were three competitors at Prevacid's heels? You were in the lead and you lost the race is that what you mean? You were getting paid in the shade doing no work and then AZ came and sleighed you. The funny thing is selling a PPI is the most simple pharma sell I have done in my 11 years. I have never even reviewed a single study in the 2 years I have promoted Dex Don't get me wrong, it's a fun sell and I like it. But ask anyone how it compares to diabetes
     
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    Somebody better tell that person that said we were getting over $200 million in sales from Amitiza that the drug is GONE!!!!! Sucampo is taking the drug back. Don't believe me look at their website under careers.
     
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    It's called planning. Just because they are posting and interviewing for 100 reps doesn't mean they have hired them. Check out the Sucampo board to see how many people that were interviewed have not heard back from the company about the next step.
    It could be Sucampo is queing up candidates in the event that they do get a judgement. No judgement could mean no hiring.
     
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    Ever think they may be hiring bc they are launching a new drug? Try googling Rescula.

    100 new hires cannot replace a nationwide pcp/gi sales force.
     
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    Takeda managed care team does suck...fact!
     
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    There are studies with Dex??????? LOL by far the easiest sell ever. T2D vs GERD???? You Tappers are pathetic. I could understand why you loved TAP so much. You dropped off samples and got paid without having to sell. And I love when they say that Actos has no competition. They truly dont understand the market and for that matter dont understand any market bc they are UPS delivery man. Actually, they are the extra worker the UPS guy hires to help during the holidays.
     
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    Almost but not quite. Rezulin was pulled nearly a year after the launch of Actos in spring of 2000. That did not make it easier for Takeda or GSK to sell TZDs since docs got nervous after Rezulin was shown to blow up the liver on a moment's notice. We split the conversions down the middle and both products kept about a 50% share until 2007 when the Nissen letter came out.

    I agree with your analogy on the Cox-!! market 100%. Celebrex got cut off at the knees thanks to Vioxx and Bextra getting yanked. The drug was on track to do about $5 BILLION at peak and now does about 10% of that.

    You are also correct that TAP handed over the PPI market to AZ after riding the coattails of Prilosec to the number two spot in the market. Fact is, they lost to Nexium, the AZ equivalent of Kapidex/Dexilant. Ironically, AZ continues to kick the shit out of Dex with nobody even promoting Nexium. You would think the TAP braintrust now running the show would have figured out a way to win that PPI market share. I guess that just proves that they were blessed with dumb luck they could never replicate again today.

    TAP was successful because they had some great molecules and a willingness to bribe KOLs into writing Lupron and Prevacid. Nothing more. Don't believe me? Look up the article profiling Doug Durand from Business week 2002. Tap reps gave away vacations and big screen television sets to EVERY targeted specialist in their territories. What the heck, I'll just post a link to the story here:

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/02_25/b3788094.htm

    That's quite a proud history Tappers. You really were great sales people. Scumbags.
     
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    Takeda like "Take da medicine?" or shall we say we need to takedabreak!
     
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    WOW, this is crazy......Now I know why the Tappies long for their Tappy days
     
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    Lets face it. Takeda Legacy are pathetic lazy complainers. They spend more time making shit up to make themselves look good than they do working. I agree with many of the posts that our managed markets team SUCKS. Look at them, they are ALMOST ALL Takeda Legacy. In the field, all Takeda Legacy reps and managers gossip, try to make TAP legacy look bad and just make stuff up to make themselves look like they are working or know what they are doing.

    Next RIF should be all Takeda Legacy peeps.
     
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    Yup that is so true!!!
     
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    The real issue is Tappers running this joint for 4 years and still pointing fingers and making excuses for disastrous results. Really how can anyone defend what is so obviously a group of nice people in way over their heads. this is a business-not a frat...our livelihood is dependent on these goofballs. Its time everyone woke up to that fact.