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Old 09-08-2006, 05:45 PM
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Default Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

Lots leave, but do you really care?
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:55 PM
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Karen Delatorre
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Old 09-08-2006, 06:26 PM
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Cindy McKown
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Old 09-09-2006, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

Integrity,
Innovation,
Ethics,
Pride,
True concern for the patient, e.g. George Merck, not the fake-'em-out concern we see on prime time TV.
Research pipeline,

Nobody misses me, but I left because those above left before me.
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:09 PM
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Default Re: Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

Vioxx
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Old 09-09-2006, 12:18 PM
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Integrity,
Innovation,
Ethics,
Pride,
True concern for the patient, e.g. George Merck, not the fake-'em-out concern we see on prime time TV.
Research pipeline,

Nobody misses me, but I left because those above left before me.

You're not alone friend. I and a number of others left for
many of the same reasons.
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Old 09-09-2006, 01:51 PM
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But we are diverse and proud of it. Cannot perform but we are diverse!!!
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:16 AM
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Jerry Keller! A bright and shining light as a sales VP, when you went to a meeting where Jerry spoke you always came home feeling great about your job and wanting to go back out and sell better. When you get home from meetings now you want to see a psychologist instead. Merck is now beating the reps to death with all levels of management and what folks don't realize is that soon Merck will not be able to hire and retain class people anymore, they'll go somewhere else. The job's too hard getting the shit beat out of you every day by customers that don't respect Merck or the industry to have management beating you as well. After Vioxx Merck should be happy as hell to have anyone with tenure staying with us and should act accordingly. Remember because of the way it is handled most managers do not know of the numbers of doctors in any territory with a Vioxx lawsuits or the angst caused by them. Merck management does not get it!!
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Old 09-10-2006, 05:49 PM
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Jerry Keller! A bright and shining light as a sales VP, when you went to a meeting where Jerry spoke you always came home feeling great about your job and wanting to go back out and sell better. When you get home from meetings now you want to see a psychologist instead. Merck is now beating the reps to death with all levels of management and what folks don't realize is that soon Merck will not be able to hire and retain class people anymore, they'll go somewhere else. The job's too hard getting the shit beat out of you every day by customers that don't respect Merck or the industry to have management beating you as well. After Vioxx Merck should be happy as hell to have anyone with tenure staying with us and should act accordingly. Remember because of the way it is handled most managers do not know of the numbers of doctors in any territory with a Vioxx lawsuits or the angst caused by them. Merck management does not get it!!
When Merck let Keller go it was an ominous sign for the sales force and accurately portended the negative future we have experienced. The lack of confidence and angst shared by Merck senior management continues to flow down to the reps where it is manifested and felt as a threatening and hostile corporate environment. That kind of motivation ultimately fails as Merck continues to demonstrate.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:24 AM
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But we are diverse and proud of it. Cannot perform but we are diverse!!!
You're so naive. Vioxx was not a diversity issue. QCS is a great idea that is poorly executed and contradicted by metrics. Yes, Tyrone is less than effective, but so are other non-diverse Merck V.P.s and execs. Merck's diversity numbers are still far below the national percentages, with the exception of Caucasian women. Yes, Caucasian women are considered a part of diversity in corporate America. And no I am not a diversity hire!
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Old 09-11-2006, 04:57 PM
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Lots leave, but do you really care?
Your momma left... and I don't care.
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Old 09-12-2006, 05:15 PM
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Art Kryschak...one hell of a rep from WI.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:02 PM
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Arms Re: Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

Not really, now that loosers like you still are there.
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:09 PM
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Banghead Re: Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

It's "losers" you dolt! Check your spelling!
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Old 09-12-2006, 11:19 PM
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Respect --ed to get it from customers and internally -- we ruined our relationship with the customers by over hiring and over selling -- and we dont get it from the inside -- because we have check off sheets and managers who ust roll it out and do not speak up
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Old 09-13-2006, 03:54 PM
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Jon Curran - Made mistakes but the best SBD I ever worked for!
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:26 AM
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You're so naive. Vioxx was not a diversity issue. QCS is a great idea that is poorly executed and contradicted by metrics. Yes, Tyrone is less than effective, but so are other non-diverse Merck V.P.s and execs. Merck's diversity numbers are still far below the national percentages, with the exception of Caucasian women. Yes, Caucasian women are considered a part of diversity in corporate America. And no I am not a diversity hire!
The diversity agenda is a prime symptom of the disease. In and of itself it sounds noble and harmless in theory, but in practice it morphs into a cancer on any organization. No, I am not talking about hiring qualified candidates who happen to be people of color, but the inevitable mandating of QUOTAS etc.. This goes along with micro-management of the sales force, lying about research findings, arbitrary and capricious terminations for anyone who steps out of line, etc.. All are indicators that they don't trust you anymore, and are very concerned that you might cause some public embarrassment to the company that, God forbid, will end up in the WSJ and cause the stock to drop. The company agenda is driven solely by self preservation, public relations, and managing the stock price. Ethics, and morality become quaint concepts for sloganeering by the marketing and HR departments. This is the recipe for destroying a company.

"In theory, there is no difference between practice and theory. In practice there is."
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Old 09-21-2006, 02:49 PM
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Ethics, and morality become quaint concepts for sloganeering by the marketing and HR departments. This is the recipe for destroying a company.

"In theory, there is no difference between practice and theory. In practice there is."

That is hits the bullseye my friend. Well done.
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Old 09-21-2006, 03:14 PM
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Thank you Yogi.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:04 PM
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Start with Roy Vagelos, and the company goes downhill from there. While a forced retirement, he was still healthy, a sginificant force in the company and the industry, and in hindsight, probably the rudder on the ship. Why was he not kept on as Chairman of the Board until the mandatory retirement age for Board members?

What is the primary reason that talented people have left Merck? Simple, the Merck of today is not the Merck that was named the most admired corporation in America for 7 years in a row in the late 80's and early 90's. It was innovative, and had a rich pipeline of commercially attractive products. People enjoyed working for Merck, and were richly rewarded for their contributions as their stock holdings and options increased in value. Salary and bonus is not enough - you can get that anywhere.

The last major product introduction was Vioxx in 1998. Since that no longer exists, go back to Singulair in 1996, or 10 years ago. No company can grow with such a lackluster performance on new product launches, especially one that has a string of current and impending patent expiries. The math is simple to all but Ray Gilmartin (the person we miss the least).

What I most miss is the "old Merck", and I don't believe that we will ever see it again.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Who do you really miss that has left Merck?

Vioxx was 1999, but gone from the market nonetheless.

What about ZETIA and VYTORIN? We sell over a billion.

Look beyond USHH - ROTATEQ, GARDASIL, ZOSTAVAX...will be in the billion.

It ain't all bad.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:20 PM
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Jon Curran - Made mistakes but the best SBD I ever worked for!
Mistake was that he couldn't keep his zipper up!
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Old 09-22-2006, 08:35 PM
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Roy Vagelos was part of the arrogance that has sent this company down the shitter. He basically told doctors they were stupid if they didn't prescribe proscar. Wasn't he also responsible for trying to sell that drug without a sales force assuming it would sell itself?? Guess what, it didn't work
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:13 PM
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P Roy's vision was doctors calling on doctors to discuss Merck products. Give the guy credit for being innovative and a risk taker. Not all of his ideas worked but that goes with the territory. Had Merck been able to put together a sales force of physicians, I believe the Vioxx mess could have been dealt with much more effectively and Merck would still be one of the premier pharmas on the cutting edge of medicine instead of the has been company we are today trying to dig out of a very deep hole. P Roy had his faults no doubt but the guy still deserves more credit than any who have succeeded him. Sales management along with the overall company went to hell with his departure.
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Old 09-22-2006, 09:16 PM
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Ray Gilmartin - Just finished law degree and hoped to get a job at Merck.
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Old 09-22-2006, 10:21 PM
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I miss al the fake tits in CA!!!
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:32 AM
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Karen Dela Torre
Lisa Whittle
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:18 PM
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Ray Gilmartin - Just finished law degree and hoped to get a job at Merck.
There is not opportunity for lawyers at Merck- they are chasing out the few that actually have brains and get what needs to be done and work with you to do within regualtory rules ie: Bob Trinkle, Frank Bigley and bring in idiots from the legal arm of Pharma to win favor and power in that organization
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:58 PM
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Jon Curran- Best dam SBD/leader in the company!!!!!!!!!
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Old 09-28-2006, 10:21 PM
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brad sheares
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Old 09-29-2006, 05:51 PM
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Old 09-30-2006, 01:29 AM
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I left Merck a while back. What happenned to Jon Curran? Did he leave on his own? Where did he go?
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Old 10-01-2006, 03:54 PM
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"The Old Colonel" in Montana. He was an old-school rep who locked horns with management whenever the opportunity presented itself (e.g. a lot!). Only field rep I know of who stood up to Randy "The Terminator" Mertens and still kept his job. Retired as an Exec a few years ago . . . The Bastard!!!
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Old 10-01-2006, 10:31 PM
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I really miss Jason Monk. He was my trainer in philly and helped me learn a lot. Were did he go?
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Old 10-02-2006, 09:55 PM
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Integrity, Integrity, Integrity - Left the building long ago....We all knew Vioxx had issues and we got left holding the bag....
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Old 10-03-2006, 03:26 AM
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Carmen Bilka
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Old 10-03-2006, 10:55 AM
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Alma Cristauro and Art Welton, best fleet managers ever!
Jerry Keller of course, too.
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Old 10-04-2006, 03:24 AM
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I miss the reps and managers in the west that were fired as scapegoats for the Vioxx fiasco

I miss Jeff Griffin, Paul Curley, John Taylor who took the fall for Brad when they did a no no with a hospital in trying to move some aggrastat

I miss jon curran and jude dinges, field directors pursing other opportunities besides pluggin merkie direct reports.

I miss Paul Fontayne saying that Lipitor wouldn't take too much share from Zocor and then getting promoted.

I miss Mieck Koerth having her temper tantnrums and abusing those below her.

I miss Jo Jerman's hair on fire ramblings and her inabiility to explain why Merck pays for her to live in a city hundreds of miles away from the headquarters rbg office and West Point. I miss Merck quietly paying for her travel and lodging expenses and not telling the IRS.

I miss having a real good sales training dept.

I miss Ray Gilmartin focus on national health care issues and not focusing on running a company.

I miss tyrone akse ing us to do something - where is he now?

I miss stock price growth and cashing in the few options I have - I guess I would be ticked off if I was a manager or above and had real quantities of options.
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Old 10-04-2006, 02:12 PM
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Stacey Gelman.... oh wait, she is still here..... DAMN her!!
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Old 10-05-2006, 12:11 AM
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I miss that I left with what was close to $1M in options, that still would be worthless. I hope that what I'm building at another BIG PHARMA will continue to rise as we launch a number of drugs over the next few years.

I also miss the good friends I had at Merck - oh wait- they have left too.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:16 PM
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ALAINA LOVE
I MISS YOU,
MARC.
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:20 PM
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CHUCK BOHENSKY
MATT EMMONS
DICK MARKHAM
ED FITZPATRICK
DON BEEMAN
SATAN
RICHARD NIXON
KEVIN LOKAY
JOHN VANCE
RON STEWART
BARB SENICH
NANCY WIC
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Old 10-08-2006, 11:36 PM
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I miss, no, I'm jealous of all those who left and are now doing better on the outside. Makes me sick. Get me out of here!!!!!!
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Old 10-12-2006, 12:23 AM
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Dan Dacierno: The guy was a winner
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:22 AM
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Jim Hoffman MD
John Vance
Gary Kretz (Not!)
Morris Fockler
Matt Emmons
Howard Somebody
Bob Moore
Ken Johnson
Buck Adrian
George Alexander
B Vaughn
C Moss
Old Denver RM--what was his name (went to Hawaii I think)
Old Rapid City DM
John Horan
John Huck
Doug MacMaster
John Lyons
and of course, Jerry Keller
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Old 10-12-2006, 01:24 AM
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Walter Maupay
Dick Morr
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:55 AM
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There is not opportunity for lawyers at Merck
Good! Lawyers suck the life out of everybody in the company, and the very breath we breath out of the room when they enter. They all suck. Nobody gives a flying f@*k about what "opportunity" there is for lawyers. Jeeeeeez .... giv eme a break. Screw the lawyers.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:45 AM
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When did Jason Monk leave ? Where now
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:02 PM
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Jim Hoffman MD
John Vance
Gary Kretz (Not!)
Morris Fockler
Matt Emmons
Howard Somebody
Bob Moore
Ken Johnson
Buck Adrian
George Alexander
B Vaughn
C Moss
Old Denver RM--what was his name (went to Hawaii I think)
Old Rapid City DM
John Horan
John Huck
Doug MacMaster
John Lyons
and of course, Jerry Keller
after horan and huck, our mistake was vagelos over lyons, macmaster and keller. why did we get away from sales leadership?
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Old 10-13-2006, 10:24 PM
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Your old Rapid City DM was probably Frank McGee.
What a character he was.
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