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Old 08-22-2002, 11:23 AM
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Old 10-24-2002, 09:25 AM
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A very good buddy of mine just went to work for your com-
pany. Things look good, and your product line is just right for this individual who doesn't want to work too hard.
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Old 11-15-2002, 11:36 AM
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That's funny!
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Old 12-29-2002, 08:46 AM
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Tell your buddy to have fun in Vegas, because they just let go 40% of the Arixra sales force. ??? Sure makes one wonder about all thoses merger rumors.
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Old 02-15-2003, 03:08 PM
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I worked for the predecessor of Sanofi(Sterling Drug) several years ago and had the "boss from Hell".I have heard recently he was rehired and put in the same district he once ruled--oops--"guided". Wonder how long it will take the Grand Poobaas to realize this guy is poison.Have also heard his "mice"are starting to flee.
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Old 04-04-2003, 07:25 PM
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Default Why Arixtra Has Flopped

The following is an excerpt from the Organon message board: "However, there is a general "sense" that the Organon sales force really doesn't represent the top tier of detailers. They have/had a potential blockbuster: great safety profile, great value-pricing, but it appears that marketing wasn't able to get it on to formularies (as you intelligently point out) and that the sales force just wasn't getting it. We all know that the first couple of months make or break the uptake of a new compound.

Personal story: a few months ago I had a relative who underwent hip replacement; I asked the doc what he was using -- he was using Lovanox. Asked him if he had considered Arixtra -- said he had never heard of it. This was in December. Don't know why the message just wasn't getting out. "
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Old 04-04-2003, 07:26 PM
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I think that Akzo and Sanofi underestimated the barriers to market, such as the glacial pace of hospital formulary changes, and the fact that its a new class of drugs and hence people will have lots of questions.

There's also the alleged protection tactics employed by Aventis, resulting in a price war in which Aventis clearly has the advantage- they should have seen that coming. Maybe the lawsuit will help, I don't know.

I've also read that doctors are reluctant to switch to another injectable but rather are waiting for Exanta, an oral drug for the same indication that may be approved relatively soon in the US. But who knows when/if Exanta will be approved so I wonder if that's really a factor.

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Old 06-24-2003, 08:54 AM
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I have 6 years of clinical experience and sales. I am looking to interview for the Wilmington, NC position. I know from being involved in the recruiting process for a large CRO that the "apply now" is like going in to a black whole. Is there anyone I can contact directly?

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Old 06-26-2003, 12:27 AM
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Everyone must go to Sanofi-star.com and apply online. best way to get into a f2f is to find out who the DM is in the territory and pass your resume along to them, through one of their reps if need be. What Spot is it for, PCP?
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Old 09-22-2003, 02:45 PM
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Welcome to Sanofi! Now find a company that treats their employees with respect. Just big pharma with little opportunity for promotions if any. Promotions come from outside hiring... The French don't mind making money off of us though. Try a company that truly values their employees.
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Old 10-04-2003, 09:45 PM
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Re: micromanagement-

they have instituted a slew of "metrics" to measure sales force effectiveness. THis is because the upper level management team is grossly underqualified. These metrics are crunched by an outsourced agency and mailed over to them which they cut and paste into reports. Fooling everyone or at least out talking everyone.
This is an excuse for not knowing how to teach the sales force how to move the market share in a duplicatable format. So you had better believe the micromanagement style is fully at work at Sanofi - why? It is the most valuable smoke screen an incompetent person has.
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Old 10-11-2003, 12:17 AM
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Re: micromanagement-

they have instituted a slew of "metrics" to measure sales force effectiveness. THis is because the upper level management team is grossly underqualified. These metrics are crunched by an outsourced agency and mailed over to them which they cut and paste into reports. Fooling everyone or at least out talking everyone.
This is an excuse for not knowing how to teach the sales force how to move the market share in a duplicatable format. So you had better believe the micromanagement style is fully at work at Sanofi - why? It is the most valuable smoke screen an incompetent person has.


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Perfectly on with your response. When the sales numbers are not there, blame the reps and add more "metrics." Don't look at managed care or marketing. They all have golden parachutes anyway. Reps, they get the blame.
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Old 10-20-2003, 12:33 AM
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you got that right....ditto!
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Old 10-20-2003, 12:36 AM
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About the MICROmanagement--you totally got that right on the nose....!
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Old 10-22-2003, 09:02 PM
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Regional Managers in this company are big Micro Mgrs b/c most of them have no idea what they are doing -especially on the CNS side of the company. They sit behind a desk every day and think of what spreadsheet I can send out today. I have been with Sanofi a long time and never seen the crap that is going on now. We have a National Meeting in Feb and expect this to be a motivating meeting, the last ones have been so demoralizing all of us want to quit. Sanofi - STOP hiring such asses from the outside and promote within!!! Get rid of the cancer now before you have no reps to promote your products.
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Old 11-29-2003, 05:31 PM
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[img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] It really must be intentional - or French - to make such a mess of the company. Several years ago I was recruited to join Sanofi and the pipeline and the job security. But this company has take great lengths to prove I am not of value, rather I am a number to be "assigned". I am surely not the only one to take offense to the tone and way we were notified about the "strategic re-deployment" and "optimization" of the field force. Within the industry it is widely recognized that a specialty position is higher than a primary care position. If you don't agree, why are they paid more? Anyway, to take specialty reps and "assign" them as primary care, then pretend it is not a demotion is silly!

By the way, I missed the meeting (or e-mail) when we were supposed to give our feedback and opinions about this. Was anyone else there?
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Old 02-22-2004, 05:31 PM
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I too worked for Sterling. The boss from hell could be any number of people. This company needs help from the top on down!
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Old 02-25-2004, 12:41 PM
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Does anybody know the name of the promotions/CME manager for Ambien or Eligard? [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] <font color="red"> </font>
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Old 03-21-2004, 03:22 PM
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Does anybody know the name of the promotions/CME manager for Ambien or Eligard? &lt;img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /&gt; <font color="red"> </font>

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Absolutely, he's a very approachable guy and should be able to help you with whatever you need. You need to contact Haywood Jablowme at 90 Park. Good Luck http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...ns/shocked.gif
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Old 03-26-2004, 07:55 PM
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&lt;img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /&gt; It really must be intentional - or French - to make such a mess of the company. Several years ago I was recruited to join Sanofi and the pipeline and the job security. But this company has take great lengths to prove I am not of value, rather I am a number to be "assigned". I am surely not the only one to take offense to the tone and way we were notified about the "strategic re-deployment" and "optimization" of the field force. Within the industry it is widely recognized that a specialty position is higher than a primary care position. If you don't agree, why are they paid more? Anyway, to take specialty reps and "assign" them as primary care, then pretend it is not a demotion is silly!

By the way, I missed the meeting (or e-mail) when we were supposed to give our feedback and opinions about this. Was anyone else there?

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I absolutely agree. As an ex-CNS specialty rep I was amazed at how poorly they handled the 're-deployment'. The funny thing is that they always micromanaged the CNS group. They very clearly sent the message that they don't respect our experience.
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Old 04-15-2004, 06:51 PM
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Respect your experience !? You fucked up ambien and your not worth shit. Do not let the door hit you in the ass.
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Old 04-15-2004, 07:30 PM
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Try 'YOU'RE' you illiterate fool.

News flash: we only called on psychiatrists so if Ambien is fucked up it's not our fault as psychs are a very small part of overall Ambien business. We did what we could. Sorry. You obviously needed our help. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/smirk.gif
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Old 04-20-2004, 10:52 PM
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That manager is a royal pain in the ass. If you want to kill your career go for it. Don't just take this from me, ask anyone who has worked or is working for her. Most are seeking other opportunities.
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Old 05-17-2004, 09:04 PM
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Try 'YOU'RE' you illiterate fool.

News flash: we only called on psychiatrists so if Ambien is fucked up it's not our fault as psychs are a very small part of overall Ambien business. We did what we could. Sorry. You obviously needed our help. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/smirk.gif

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You just gave the reason why the Ambien "specialty" sales force was let go. Come on people, you had one (yes, 1) product and about 45 DRS. What's so special about that? PCP was actually a step up for you cry babies.
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Old 05-23-2004, 02:52 PM
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hi folks, could you direct me to any sterling drug employees that are in the retirement area..like, reciving medical benefits at present.
i worked for glenbrook labs and wanted to communicate with other sales reps or managers..
we get our medical benefits thru sanofi .seems that was the deal they created
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Old 10-25-2004, 06:29 AM
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if you are a drug rep - you are a girl
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Old 12-14-2004, 11:40 PM
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Try Trent Britt. He's down that way somewhere. He's a DM I went to high school with
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Old 01-15-2005, 11:18 AM
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I resigned from Sanofi mid year 2004 because they micro-manage....Look around before you try to become employed with Sanofi.. Its different from other companies. They will micro manage and since their product line is pretty good, it's very hard to become recognized and the bonuses suck...
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Old 01-28-2005, 08:59 PM
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i just got promoted from w/in to endo team so u must jus suck as primary care rep
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Old 01-31-2005, 05:54 PM
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does anyone know who is in charge of hiring for metabolism in Florida?
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Old 02-11-2005, 06:10 PM
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does anyone know who is in charge of hiring for metabolism in Montana?
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Old 02-17-2005, 01:27 PM
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who hires for metabolism in western PA?
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Old 02-22-2005, 09:44 AM
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Which location is HR located at, NY or PA?
Thanks
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:36 AM
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for all the men out there...if you want a job with sanofi...put a skirt on!!
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Old 03-29-2005, 10:37 AM
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why do you say this? did a woman get hired over you?
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:47 PM
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I currently work for Sanofi and used to be with another BIG pharma company. Sanofi by far is the better company. If you do not like it then leave. I have never felt like a number. Maybe you need to perform and not let your products sell themselves.
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Old 04-14-2005, 09:50 PM
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for all the men out there...if you want a job with sanofi...put a skirt on!!

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but if you want to be in upper management change into pants and join the good ole boy network.
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Old 06-24-2005, 03:36 PM
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Does anyone know the names of the managers in the Birmingham area?
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Old 06-29-2005, 05:15 PM
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companies to try to get in with? new to field..... can be patient

pros and cons to all, well aware, your best advice welcome......
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Old 07-06-2005, 11:59 AM
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anyone have any info on the detroit area managers?
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:17 AM
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I sell medical equipment and pay in taxes what you post office sample droppers make. HA HA!!!! So take your FORD FOCUS of whatever it is, and dropship (fed-ex) your crap and quit wasting doctors time about your asprin equivelent side effect crap.
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Old 07-24-2005, 06:26 AM
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You call yourself a salesman? Get a job with the post office you sample dropper, OR sell medical equipment and show a doctor some value. Like how he/she can make money on reimbursement you low payed greedy f---s
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Old 08-19-2005, 07:58 AM
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anyone have any info on the detroit area managers?

[/ QUOTE ]Yeah, most of them suck......
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:50 PM
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If you are a former cheerleader or ex-college jock without a brain in your head Sanifi-Aventis wants you! Our regioanl director (Brian B in NE) hires and promotes on his formula of "good attititude". "Good attititude" is as describes it "hot chicks" and people who will take orders and keep thier mouths shut. You blow the numbers out year after year and "blonde big tits" or the football moron with one years experience who's numbers you crushed is awarded "Rep of the Year". This company sucks like all the rest. Thanks for sleezing things up for us long time employees Brian! http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/cool.gif
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:54 PM
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Your good buddy - did he play football or is she a former cheerleader - if it is either of the two management positions, promotion and money are sure to follow. One thing about sanofi-aventis is performance is not a needed. If you like to lick ass you will succeed here! The company went to the snakes back when we merged with RPR (deadbeats one and all). It is NOT a sales organization anymore. http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/grin.gif
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:59 PM
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"The French don't mind making money off of us though. Try a company that truly values their employees."

AMEN BROTHER! SANOFI-AVENTIS IS A SLEEZE PIT - BUT YOU DO GET A MONTHS VACATION YOUR FIRST YEAR.
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Old 10-11-2005, 10:53 PM
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Job offer from Sanofi-Aventis and GSK?
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:03 PM
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I'm an MBA student with a few months to go and I have been trying to get into the Pharma sales industry for a while with little results. ANY ADVICE!!!! I just had a preliminary phone interview, which means DICK! What must I do in order to get a one on one with someone, and when I do how can I prepare better for the type of questions they're going to ask. And what the hell is NAPSR? I am tired of receive info from them...is it really necessary to become "certified" through them?
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Old 11-24-2005, 05:09 PM
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Tell your buddy to have fun in Vegas, because they just let go 40% of the Arixra sales force. ??? Sure makes one wonder about all thoses merger rumors.

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Where did you hear there was a 40% reduction of the force on Arixtra?
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Old 11-24-2005, 06:07 PM
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The Arixtra quote you ask about was posted 2002...
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