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Old 08-22-2007, 12:54 AM
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My wife and I live in Los Angeles and our baby girl is coming in 4 weeks. I've narrowed the search for cord blood banks to ViaCord and CBR. Price is almost identical, and I've read a lot on this board about vials vs. bags, etc.

I would be interested in any CURRENT info comparing the benefits of each, as we've got to decide very shortly which one to use - we've already decided private banking is best, and we can afford the cost. Now it's a quality question - which one is best?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Best,

Mark N.
Los Angeles
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Old 08-22-2007, 03:39 PM
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Viacord because they have the only FDA approved collection bag and FDA cleared processing system. Also, we are the only ones to publish transplant outcome data. Most importantly we are doing research, which makes us the experts. Lastly, we are a public company so you can feel confident we are always doing the right thing.
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:59 PM
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FDA approved collection bag this is BS ask them about the cell count and how many samples have come from their lab!

The only reason the have FDA approved bag is because the buy them for a third party! This is some good marketing and spin for a weak product. Plus the bags they put your sample in are lot tested not individually tested like cbr’s

CBR is the only company to offer the AXP processing and they have had samples used to treat adults!!!
http://www.stemcellnews.com/articles...validation.htm


If you ever need the cells you want as many as possible right?


From this point on you will get a lot of mud slinging keep you focus look at what really matters if you are ever in need
THE CELLS ARE WHAT MATTER NOT THE COLLECTION BAG!
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:54 PM
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the cells that matter to transplanters are TNC's which Viacord counts. CBR counts MNC's which appears higher but that is not comparing apples to apples. They are 3 totally different cells. CBR is the master at mis representing this facts. Viacord's processing system has the most experience with transplants. CBR's processing system has none.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:29 PM
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Can you tell me where you find stem cells (AKA Hematopoietic) are found???

By the way how is the research going on amplification? Oh yeah that’s right you had to stop because it sucked and was worthless. Your own reps even say that you’re better off using the cord blood and bone marrow mix than cells that were selectively amplified! Oh yeah good stuff to spend over a 160 million on. Via-tard


What’s your MNC Mononucleated ( where stem cells are found) cell recovery rate… I know in the eighties low eighties.
Eat them apples!
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Old 08-23-2007, 09:07 PM
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Actually are TNC's are about 83%. When processed to MNC's it is the same as CBR's. We are doing research on other amplification technologies. What research are you doing? Oh you aren't, you just donate money. Donating $ is alot easier and risk free.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:30 PM
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Go with Cryo-Cell

www.cryo-cell.com
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:56 PM
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Go with Cryo-Cell

www.cryo-cell.com

Do NOT go with Cryo-Cell. They had a meltdown and your baby's blood is not safe since it's stored in Tampa, FL where they have hurricanes. There's an article that was in The St. Petersburg Times describing it. I'll see if I can find the article and post the website.
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Old 08-27-2007, 04:58 PM
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Do NOT go with Cryo-Cell. They had a meltdown and your baby's blood is not safe since it's stored in Tampa, FL where they have hurricanes. There's an article that was in The St. Petersburg Times describing it. I'll see if I can find the article and post the website.
Originally Posted by Anonymous
This might be a rumor, but didn't Cryo-Cell have a large cord blood spillage due to their patented automated system?

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I do remember such an article.


Yes, this is true. Here is the article:

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/02/03/Bu...Meltdown.shtml

Very scarry, I would not bank my child's blood here being that it's in Florida which is known for hurricanes, etc.
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Old 08-27-2007, 10:36 PM
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First, I actually work in the pharma world, but am very interested in this industry as an investor.

I just checked all of the cord blood companies websites (CBR, Viacord and Cryocell) and CryoCell looks like their lab's are more accredited then both Cbr and Viacord. Not 100% sure, but if that article is true then how would the very respected ISO, FDA and the AABB give them accreditation?

Honestly, that accusation would make those accreditations worthless if that article had any merit whatsoever. Not playing favorites at ALL, but seriously I would worry more about failed selective amplification inlcuding the hundreds of millions of dollars wasted on nothing but failed technologies. Cbr is private so it's hard to know what's really going on.
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Old 08-29-2007, 05:47 PM
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Cbr is private and as such, is a crooked company. Their marketing campaign is borderline unethical. They created the whole mess of paying docs to attend dinner programs and paying docs for retrieving the blood in the delivery room. The docs are so money motivated that they ALSO charge a fee to their patients for collection. Then you have Viacord playing the game and started to match the $$ and in some cases, paying more than what Cbr offers.

You then have staff that has their own motivation. Such as recommending Viacord because they just received a gift certificate from Viacord.

If you ask me, this industry desparately needs regulation. BOTH companies are selling fear to moms at a very vunerable time during their pregnancy. That is why you will find the majority of physicians are leary about recommending private banking outright because they too know that despite the science out there with various forms of stem cells, cord blood is too early in its infancy to make it the end all be all.

By the way, you should ask your doctor about Cbr's campaign of Annie Tighe and how that failed them.
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Old 08-30-2007, 08:25 AM
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SERIOUS POST:
AVOID BANKING W/ CBR, SERIOUS QUALITY CONTROL PROBLEMS AND A "PRIVATE" CULTURE WHICH DOES NOT REVEAL THE HIDDEN PROBLEMS WITHIN THE PROCESSING FACILITY. STAY AWAY, BANK WITH ANOTHER OF THESE CO'S.
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Old 09-02-2007, 07:56 PM
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Go with CBR. We chose Viacord and they lost our baby's cord blood in transport between the hospital and their facility. They claimed it has never happened before but that is not true. Go with a company that has a person who is responsible for the cord blood from the time it leaves your hands to the time it arrives at the blood bank you chose. DO NOT use a company that hands it off to a stewartess on a commercial plane and has a different person at the other end to pick it up. Ours somehow made it on the plane but never made it off. Viacord did nothing for us after losing the blood other than say "sorry".
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Old 09-02-2007, 10:17 PM
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I have a fiend who banked w/CBR and the plane ran over the cord and it splattered every where. CBR does not have their people on the plane either. Viacord does not use the stewardess so ignore the previous post about that. There will be accidents with any company. It is only human. CBR offered their apology only too.
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: Baby's coming in 4 weeks - ViaCord or CBR? Help!

Well, to wrap up the thread, we went with CBR - it was the Doctor's recommendation and the hospital's. Thanks for all the comments and advice.

Best,

Mark in LA
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Old 09-03-2007, 01:17 PM
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Go with CBR. We chose Viacord and they lost our baby's cord blood in transport between the hospital and their facility. They claimed it has never happened before but that is not true. Go with a company that has a person who is responsible for the cord blood from the time it leaves your hands to the time it arrives at the blood bank you chose. DO NOT use a company that hands it off to a stewartess on a commercial plane and has a different person at the other end to pick it up. Ours somehow made it on the plane but never made it off. Viacord did nothing for us after losing the blood other than say "sorry".
Quick does collection for both companies so your point is pointless!
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Old 09-04-2007, 08:22 PM
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Well, to wrap up the thread, we went with CBR - it was the Doctor's recommendation and the hospital's. Thanks for all the comments and advice.

Best,

Mark in LA
Who's your doctor? Just curious..
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Old 09-07-2007, 09:21 PM
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My wife and I live in Los Angeles and our baby girl is coming in 4 weeks. I've narrowed the search for cord blood banks to ViaCord and CBR. Price is almost identical, and I've read a lot on this board about vials vs. bags, etc.

I would be interested in any CURRENT info comparing the benefits of each, as we've got to decide very shortly which one to use - we've already decided private banking is best, and we can afford the cost. Now it's a quality question - which one is best?

Thanks for any help you can provide.

Best,

Mark N.
Los Angeles
Look into alpha cord. It will save you a lot of money.
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Old 09-23-2007, 08:08 AM
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Mark,

Great choice and good luck with your new baby!
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Old 09-24-2007, 11:45 PM
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My wife is getting a c-section in two days. Who can we contact to donate the cord cells??? We did it with our first kid in New Jersey, but we live in PA now. Who can we donate it to, I hate to waste cord cells in the garbage, especially when so many can use it.....???????
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Old 10-26-2007, 02:37 PM
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Bank for your kid you cheap fuck
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Old 11-08-2008, 07:22 AM
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Viacord lost our cord blood too.They use a inferior courier called airnet.The driver that showed up didnt even work for airnet but another company called ibc???I knew I was in trouble when I realized the courier didnt speak english! Go with CBR!!!
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Old 11-08-2008, 08:20 AM
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Actually CBR and Viacord use the same courier Quick.
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:29 AM
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LifeBankUSA - the only cord blood company owned by a pharma -

http://www.lifebankusa.com/
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Old 11-12-2008, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Baby's coming in 4 weeks - ViaCord or CBR? Help!

We were bombarded by a lot of ads from Cord Blood Registry (CBR) and would have gone with them if we haven’t been aware of the availability of other banks. We decided to go with Family Cord Blood Services, a local bank headquartered in Los Angeles. Their cost was a lot more reasonable and affordable than CBR – more than $500 less and have all the proper licensing, accreditation and service levels. It is important for all the licensing and endorsements because you do want a lab that is safe and practicing along with the industry standards. We also felt better going with them because they’re owned by doctors and their lab and storage are all in the same location. One of the medical directors and co-founder is actually a leading cord blood expert and chairman of the cord blood banking industry.
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Old 11-14-2008, 08:46 PM
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This whole thread is BS. It's a CBR Rep who writes back and forth to themself. Like a real consumer is going to make a decision from a company thread when they can pick up the phone and use their brain and ask questions. The idiots who write in from time to time and answer this BS thread are just as dumb. I use to work for CBR a few years ago when it was just Chris S but I herd it isn't much better now, sorry. The fact is that CBR is best then Viacrap and the rest should just go home and play with themselves or their cat (pussy if you didn't get the joke). When the hell are you guys going to be sold. I look REAL bad when viacrap got picked up first. Why go with number two when the pin up girl in the corner is single? Good Luck but I left for more money, company car, real benefits and a chance to work for someone other than Saunders. Have you guys at least gotton a boost in base pay?
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Old 11-20-2008, 05:48 PM
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I just wanted to add that The Family Cord Blood Services is currently having a promotion special from now until end of year for $200 off new client enrollments.
You can check them on line

http://www.familycordbloodservices.com/

We were very happy with them.
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Old 01-23-2009, 09:10 PM
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Family Cord Blood Services has recently changed their name to FamilyCord

Their new website is:

http://www.Familycord.com
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Old 03-09-2009, 05:42 PM
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Viacord is the better of the companies.
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Old 03-31-2009, 02:17 AM
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We used CBR ten years ago and had no problems at all.

We were the first one my OB/GYN had done, and CBR was the only game in town then. Don't know what the issues are today in 2009, but we've had no absolutely complaints with CBR and their choice of Tucson makes sense (no earthquakes or hurricanes!).

If someone out there is thinking of using CBR, make sure you use a coupon to save $$. CBR widely issues these coupons as "referrals"-- the new client gets a discount and the old client gets a credit to offset storage fees. My code, for $250 off, is MSALE. If you decide to go with CBR I would surely appreciate you using my code!

Hope no one thinks of this as spam-- I guess it could be seen as such.

If you are expecting, CONGRATULATIONS! I wish you a fast and comfortable delivery. Take at least one picture every single day-- someday you will be so glad you did.

Thanks and good luck.
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Old 04-01-2009, 03:14 PM
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its all a big waste....sorry...look at the technology growth, its not in cord blood. it should be but the industry is over...if you have a fair amount of money,,have at it. you will sleep better at night for now....
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Old 04-03-2009, 08:57 AM
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Yes why don't you explain that to the Byrd family because their son is alive because his brother's cord blood saved his life. Or maybe explain that to the Hextall family because their 2 year old son with CP now functions normally. You're a real jerk, you know that?
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Old 04-07-2009, 10:08 AM
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Ouch! Tell that to the people who are the experts. This industry has promised a lot and delivered little. If private cord blood was on the cusp of greatness do you really think there would be all this outcry against it.



Submitted by ruzik_tuzik on Mar 30th, 2009
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A survey of physicians has found broad support for the position that parents should not bank their newborns' umbilical cord blood in a private blood bank unless another member of the family is at risk for a blood disease that will require a stem cell transplant.

The results of the survey are reported by researchers at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute and their colleagues in the March issue of the journal Pediatrics. Their findings are in general accord with the recommendations of medical organizations that have previously weighed in on the issue.

"Physicians who perform hematopoietic cell transplants in children are well positioned to judge the advisability of private cord blood banking, but their views had never been systematically sought and collected," says the study's senior author, Steven Joffe, MD, MPH, of Dana-Farber. "We found that these physicians have performed relatively few transplants involving privately banked cord blood, and that their position on such banking is generally in line with that of larger medical organizations."

Cord blood is a source of "hematopoietic" (blood forming) cells that can be used in stem cell transplants to treat a range of diseases and disorders. Expanding the collection of cord blood for use in public cord blood banks increases the chance that more people are eligible for transplant, because stem cells culled from cord blood do not have to match a patient's tissue type as closely as donated bone marrow does. Cord blood stored in public banks is made available to unrelated children and adults in need of a stem cell transplant.

Private cord blood banks are for-profit companies that, unlike public banks, store umbilical cord blood for personal or family use. Private cord blood banks typically charge a $1,500 – $2,000 collection fee and an annual $100 – $200 storage fee. Families may decide to store cord blood privately if a relative has, or is at risk for, a disease such as leukemia or aplastic anemia that can be treated by a stem cell transplant. Families without such at-risk members may choose to have the blood stored as a form of "biological insurance," in case the child or another family member unexpectedly develops a disease that can be treated by stem cell transplant.

For the current study, surveys were sent to 152 pediatric hematopoietic cell transplant physicians in the United States and Canada, 93 of whom responded. Questions addressed the number of transplants physicians had performed using privately banked cord blood, their willingness to use such blood in specific situations, and their recommendations to parents regarding private cord blood banking.

The respondents reported that of the thousands of stem cell transplants they had performed, only 50 involved privately banked cord blood. Forty one of those cases were "allogeneic" transplants, in which blood from one individual was used to treat another member of the family. And in 36 of those cases, families already knew of a member who was a candidate for a transplant prior to banking the cord blood.

The researchers identified only four or five cases in which cord blood that had been privately banked "just in case" it would someday be needed was actually used to treat a sibling of the donor. They also identified only nine cases in which children whose cord blood had been banked subsequently underwent transplants using their own stem cells (known as autologous transplantation), despite the fact that this is the primary use for which private cord blood banks market their services.

Few of the respondents said they would choose a patient's own cord blood over other alternatives as a source of stem cells for treatment of acute lymphoblastic leukemia. By contrast, more than half said they would use an individual's own cord blood to treat high-risk neuroblastoma, or to treat severe aplastic anemia in the absence of an available sibling donor.

In addition, few would recommend banking of cord blood in families without a member known to have, or be at risk for, a disease that can be treated by transplantation.

"In the absence of a family member known to be a candidate for stem cell transplantation, the chances that privately banked cord blood will be used are quite small," Joffe says. "Families need to balance the high cost of banking such blood against the remote odds of its ever being needed. Pediatricians, family physicians, obstetricians, nurse midwives, and other professionals who work with families should educate parents about the medical community's consensus view on this issue."
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Old 04-07-2009, 07:15 PM
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It's always interesting to read those articles. Just like a relatively recent article by 4 authors about private vs. public.... turns out that 1 or 2 had just recently sold their financial interest and was in the industry!

Also very interesting that a lot of Pediatricians bank their children's cord blood privately, yet don't tell their patients about it! What's good for the doctor isn't always good for the patient I guess!
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Old 04-07-2009, 08:04 PM
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Yes, but dont forget to mention the huge discounts that you give to Docs. Why wouldn't a doc do it? It's cheap for them and they have lots of money. Plus the banks turn around and uses it as a marketing ploy. Doctors also smoke and tell their patients not to.
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Old 04-09-2009, 04:04 PM
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Yes why don't you explain that to the Byrd family because their son is alive because his brother's cord blood saved his life. Or maybe explain that to the Hextall family because their 2 year old son with CP now functions normally. You're a real jerk, you know that?
A real Jerk...GROW UP CHICK! THATS RIGHT >>>>>CHICK! Maybe if the child was born properly, and you KNEW SOMETHING about CP you would understand my orginal statement.
Because you are a little girl...I will try again. If you have the money yes why not! What is the % of stored UCB utilized with the Byrd Family's wonderful outcome? Dont forget the recent stuff at Duke VERY GOOD....AGAIN, please share what your definition of CP and it cause.....
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Old 04-23-2009, 10:45 PM
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Chick..huh tough guy....you're real tough, right? You're a punk. Sucka...just because you're pushing birth control pills doesn't mean that you have to be so negative and jealous towards CBB reps. Maybe someday you'll make 6 figures...maybe...actually prob not, bitch.
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Old 05-17-2009, 03:12 AM
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This is too late for the original poster (based on the date your question was posted)...
but if anyone else is researching, we chose CBR and have been happy with them. I put some of the research we did, and added links, on a website along with a $250-off coupon.

The website is www.cordblood-sale.com.

Good luck to all of you... no matter what you decide!
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:33 PM
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This is too late for the original poster (based on the date your question was posted)...
but if anyone else is researching, we chose CBR and have been happy with them. I put some of the research we did, and added links, on a website along with a $250-off coupon.

The website is www.cordblood-sale.com.

Good luck to all of you... no matter what you decide!
That's great research. A webpage that only looks at CBR. How about the two recalls that CBR had? Shouldn't parents be aware of those before they invest $2,000 dollars. There collection kit is not approved by the FDA. Should they know about that? CBR is a low class company that spends all it's money on marketing. They said there research is focussed on the collection process but it was Thermogenesis, not CBR, that did all the research. It's too bad the FDA doesn't take a harder stance on these companies because it cost the parents a heck of lot more money to go with an unethical company.
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Old 05-18-2009, 10:14 PM
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That's great research. A webpage that only looks at CBR. How about the two recalls that CBR had? Shouldn't parents be aware of those before they invest $2,000 dollars. There collection kit is not approved by the FDA. Should they know about that? CBR is a low class company that spends all it's money on marketing. They said there research is focussed on the collection process but it was Thermogenesis, not CBR, that did all the research. It's too bad the FDA doesn't take a harder stance on these companies because it cost the parents a heck of lot more money to go with an unethical company.
>> That's great research. A webpage that only looks at CBR

Yes, cordblood-sale.com does focus on CBR, the company I chose to bank my own baby's cord blood. That is why it is named "cordblood-sale.com" when CBR's own website is "cordblood.com". That's why my previous post stated "If someone out there is thinking of using CBR..." before I gave them my coupon code. If you are implying that I am trying to trick someone, you are off base.

>> How about the two recalls that CBR had?

Thank you for the heads-up. I researched that tonight. Apparently the problem is that Thermogenesis, the collection kit supplier, omitted one purity test for some lots of its bags in 2007 and 2008. The company caught the error when reviewing its documentation. The FDA said "The probability of endotoxins being present in the bag sets in significant amounts is low". It appears that the bags don't necessarily have anything wrong with them, but the samples have been tagged as a precaution. If the stem cells from these bags are used, they will have to be tested first. Here are some links about the voluntary recall and bags:
http://www.fda.gov/cber/recalls/thermaxp021908.htm
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci...8/daily47.html
http://www.cordblood.com/cord_blood_...s_recovery.asp

>> There collection kit is not approved by the FDA

I'm not sure what you mean about their collection kits; CBR has already stored a quarter-million samples, so presumably the collection process works well. The kits are FDA-cleared:
http://www.cordblood.com/cord_blood_...n_overview.asp

>>CBR is a low class company that spends all it's money on marketing

I don't think they are "low class". They do spend on marketing, but as a result they have over 260,000 samples stored. I feel that having so many samples increases the likelihood that the company will still be around in 30 years. Without competitive marketing, there is no growth or long-term financial viability for a company. I don't have a problem with long-term financial viability.

>> it cost the parents a heck of lot more money to go with an unethical company

At least they don't anonymously bash competitors on public boards. I assume, based on your knowledge of the industry and your vehemence, that you work in some way for a CBR competitor; please correct me if I am wrong.


~ mom@cordblood-sale.com
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Old 05-25-2009, 11:29 PM
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Just an update...
After reading the New York Times article about giving birth in Tanzania (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/health/24birth.html), I've decided to donate $100 to AMREF (a medical charity that improves health conditions there) each time the MSALE coupon is used-- from now until the end of June 2009. This donation doesn't affect the coupon, families still get the normal $250 (or $650) off.

SO if you are banking umbilical cord blood, and
IF you have selected The Cord Blood Registry, and
IF you would like to save $250, then
please use promotion code MSALE!

Thanks!
mom@cordblood-sale.com
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Old 05-26-2009, 09:37 PM
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So you are getting on this person for being a competitor but you actually wrote the review? But you state that while doing research you came across your site that you are a part of. Why go with a bank that has twice been recalled by the FDA? Do you know how much money this company gives Doctors to reccomend them? Now please, take your biased ass to another website sweetie!
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Old 05-27-2009, 01:55 AM
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My responses:

1) No.

2) Again, no.

3) Perhaps because it was a self-reported glitch that has been dealt with?

4) No idea. If you know, why not tell the rest of us?

5) I'm speechless. I had no idea people still talked this way.


I feel that you are attempting to impugn my character, and I find it offensive.
I have integrity; I strive to be honest and treat others with respect.


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Old 05-27-2009, 11:09 AM
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If you are interested just call CBR up and demand $500 dollars off. They will practically give their service away to get the business.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:47 PM
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Ummm... not sure about that-- but I assume many parents now use a "$250 off" coupon, since the "CBR Mom" promo codes are widely available. I don't know if the $250 discount will be around forever; it might be a concession to the recession. I paid full price for my own son's banking.

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Old 06-01-2009, 12:30 PM
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I paid full price for my own son's banking.


Sucker! Nobody should pay full price. BELIEVE ME!
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Old 06-02-2009, 11:04 PM
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Not really. We banked eleven years ago... new industry, no discounts.

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Old 06-03-2009, 10:37 AM
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It's to bad your blood is in those vials. CBR really lied to everyone about those too. They always take the cheap way out. I bet you get a reward if people use your code. CBR will always do the unethical thing!
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:39 PM
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Vials are fine. They were state of the art years ago, although I think the new bags are better.

I get a referral credit, which I'm hoping will cover my storage fees; but this month I'm donating instead to a secular medical charity in Africa. There are people in the world, pregnant women, who are dying for simple lack of a doctor's care... seemed like a little bit of $ could go a long way. You can check my website for more information.

Just curious, why the personal vendetta against CBR? If you do work for a competitor then it might just be poor sportmanship... but this seems more personal or deep than that. Are you okay?
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Old 06-03-2009, 11:51 PM
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State of the art when? In 1960? Glad to see that you are happy. Nothing personal against you. CBR is a dirty company and gives all medical companies a bad name. Paying Docs, Bribing offices, misleading advertising, using kids with a disability as a marketing ploy. Most ethical Docs wont touch this entire industry because it is not a proven therapy yet. Did you know that 85% of the cost they charge is profit. A little absurd if you ask me. Almost all of the transplants from all of these cmpanies come from a child in need Meaning a mom is pregnant and has a child with sickle cell or some other disease and the private banks store it for free. Otherwise they would have about 10 transplants with close to 300,000 patients. And most of those kids could have found a match at a donor facility
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