wondering about clinical liaisons for Suboxone? - Page 2

#51 12-31-2005, 08:45 AM

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haven't heard anything about these job opportunities. Is it at a standstill? Jobs filled?

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All jobs are filled!

#52 12-31-2005, 09:15 AM

A big thank you to the fine recruiters who didn't have the decency and professionalism to inform the finalists who were led to believe they'd be extended an offer.

#53 12-31-2005, 09:19 AM

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Have you people learned nothing from reading this board? This product is very complicated. That means that the reps hired will have NO experience. They will be friends of the DM, or in some other way chosen that makes no logical sense. Stop trying to figure these things out.

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What do you mean exactly - they were not looking for experienced pharma reps? The DM didn't have final approval anyway; you could have scored major with the DM but tanked on the final with the national sales person, who was the one giving final approval. What's her story anyway?

#54 12-31-2005, 02:43 PM

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haven't heard anything about these job opportunities. Is it at a standstill? Jobs filled?

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All jobs are filled!

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I think some jobs are still open . . . saw PittsburghWest, Philadelphia West. How do you know they are all filled.

#55 01-02-2006, 12:17 PM

Dear Pittsburgh,
move on. as much as you hate it not being called you should really take it as a compliment. the drug is great--the company is not. if you do well in sales they will terminate you because they want slow growth and no costly bonus pay outs. Burgers are known for their strong work ethic and for that reason alone you are not a right fit for this company or at best only for a short while. count your blessings and move on.

#56 01-02-2006, 02:20 PM

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Dear Pittsburgh,
move on. as much as you hate it not being called you should really take it as a compliment. the drug is great--the company is not. if you do well in sales they will terminate you because they want slow growth and no costly bonus pay outs. Burgers are known for their strong work ethic and for that reason alone you are not a right fit for this company or at best only for a short while. count your blessings and move on.

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What are you? For your information, I was called. My work ethic is great and my sales efforts are outstanding and I am counting my blessings. Could be the right match. It is now in my hands if I want to come on or not.

#57 01-02-2006, 09:57 PM

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Dear Pittsburgh,
move on. as much as you hate it not being called you should really take it as a compliment. the drug is great--the company is not. if you do well in sales they will terminate you because they want slow growth and no costly bonus pay outs. Burgers are known for their strong work ethic and for that reason alone you are not a right fit for this company or at best only for a short while. count your blessings and move on.

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What are you? For your information, I was called. My work ethic is great and my sales efforts are outstanding and I am counting my blessings. Could be the right match. It is now in my hands if I want to come on or not.

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Are you listening? The drug is good the company sucks. If you are that good you wont be there for long!

#58 01-03-2006, 06:45 AM

Can you be more specific about why rb is not a great company and what's the story with pat l who had final approval on candidates? Something didn't seem right?

#59 01-03-2006, 07:09 AM

follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. so, what I really don't get is why are you hell bent on accepting the position. by rb's prescence on this board---you should be closing the book on this company. move on!

#60 01-03-2006, 07:51 AM

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follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. so, what I really don't get is why are you hell bent on accepting the position. by rb's prescence on this board---you should be closing the book on this company. move on!

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Yes, the above post said it perfectly. They are very strange, and Pat has major issues! You need to move on. They also monitor this board, so if I were you I wouldn't be posting here. They will know who it is.

#61 01-03-2006, 11:53 AM

Things really do work out for the best http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...mlins/wink.gif

#62 01-03-2006, 03:22 PM

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follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. so, what I really don't get is why are you hell bent on accepting the position. by rb's prescence on this board---you should be closing the book on this company. move on!

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Yes, the above post said it perfectly. They are very strange, and Pat has major issues! You need to move on. They also monitor this board, so if I were you I wouldn't be posting here. They will know who it is.

[/ QUOTE ]"THEY also monitor this board." Oooh!!! How scary!!! The "THEY" you are, obviously, referring to are few and have a combined IQ of about 50. Why do you think this entire board is such a joke? It's because "THEY" get a little title and due to limited brain power think that the title makes them Gods and Goddesses.

#63 01-03-2006, 06:37 PM

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follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. so, what I really don't get is why are you hell bent on accepting the position. by rb's prescence on this board---you should be closing the book on this company. move on!

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Yes, the above post said it perfectly. They are very strange, and Pat has major issues! You need to move on. They also monitor this board, so if I were you I wouldn't be posting here. They will know who it is.

[/ QUOTE ]"THEY also monitor this board." Oooh!!! How scary!!! The "THEY" you are, obviously, referring to are few and have a combined IQ of about 50. Why do you think this entire board is such a joke? It's because "THEY" get a little title and due to limited brain power think that the title makes them Gods and Goddesses.

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Unfortunately you are right, however I do know that Pat has specifically targeted people who she thought were responding on this board. I havent heard of another company doing that. Is that paranoid or what?

#64 01-06-2006, 05:58 PM

You should give rb a break. They have been listening. Time off for dinner at the meetings - that is new. Giving us a day to study for the test. You have to admit, they are trying. I don't see that happening with big pharma. Big pharma could care less.

#65 01-06-2006, 06:48 PM

quote]follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. !

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Yes, the above post said it perfectly. They are very strange, and Pat has major issues! You need to move on. They also monitor this board, so if I were you I wouldn't be posting here. They will know who it is. [/quote? ]

Unfortunately you are right, however I do know that Pat has specifically targeted people who she thought were responding on this board. I havent heard of another company doing that. Is that paranoid or what?

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-------So you're saying that pat actually takes the time to read this board and try to figure out who's posting?! How sick is that?! By the way, was she with bms before rb?

#66 01-06-2006, 11:09 PM

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quote]follow your instincts which are right about Pat. Since when does a national sales manger give a shit who's hired. she is also the hatchet woman which really blows! this organization is strange. !

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Yes, the above post said it perfectly. They are very strange, and Pat has major issues! You need to move on. They also monitor this board, so if I were you I wouldn't be posting here. They will know who it is. [/quote? ]

Unfortunately you are right, however I do know that Pat has specifically targeted people who she thought were responding on this board. I havent heard of another company doing that. Is that paranoid or what?

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-------So you're saying that pat actually takes the time to read this board and try to figure out who's posting?! How sick is that?! By the way, was she with bms before rb?

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Takes the time? Shit, she is a workaholic, no family time, just work! No, I dont think she came from bms. She's a bitch with a smile http://www.cafepharma.com/ubbthreads...lins/smile.gif

#67 01-07-2006, 08:13 AM

she smiles...when..where..

#68 01-07-2006, 09:54 PM

Who are the DM's?

#69 01-08-2006, 09:00 AM

what difference does it make - they're just puppets for pat, who has final say on all hiring decisions; what does that tell you?

#70 01-09-2006, 11:12 PM

You need to get a life because you sound like you have some serious issues. You were probably someone who was fired and can't move on.

#71 01-10-2006, 06:51 AM

How many were fired?

#72 01-12-2006, 03:29 AM

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she smiles...when..where..

[/ QUOTE ]O.K. so she doesn't smile. But are we having fun? Heard the latest Patty-Cake joke? We call her Patty Cake cause of the cake make-up mess on her face. But the latest says her bum is flat as a Pancake. Pat, Pat, Patty Cake. Cheer up. Nothing lasts forever. You should know hatchet face.

#73 01-12-2006, 11:39 AM

What would be her main objection to NOT extending an offer to an otherwise outstanding candidate?

#74 01-13-2006, 12:25 AM

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What would be her main objection to NOT extending an offer to an otherwise outstanding candidate?

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#75 01-13-2006, 06:38 AM

Bingo - thank you, that makes total sense!

#76 01-13-2006, 04:06 PM

i was hired with out ass kissing, you wouldn't get hired because you do not have what it takes.

#77 01-13-2006, 07:03 PM

and...what does it take? Please, I'm dying to know!

#78 01-17-2006, 12:15 PM

I wasn't hired after meeting with Pat. Irronically, Last week I got a call from them saying they hired the wrong person and wanted to speak to me again. I am willing to meet with them again because I do think it is a good product. Now after reading the good and bad from all of you, I am a little nervous. I asked point blank why I wasn't hired and it was related to experience. ( I have 6 years) but they 2 gentlemen I interviewed with said I was their top choice, but the final decision wasn't theirs. Now that you have started training, I would like some insight on what everyone is thinking of to help make a decision. Thank you

#79 01-17-2006, 04:05 PM

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I wasn't hired after meeting with Pat. Irronically, Last week I got a call from them saying they hired the wrong person and wanted to speak to me again. I am willing to meet with them again because I do think it is a good product. Now after reading the good and bad from all of you, I am a little nervous. I asked point blank why I wasn't hired and it was related to experience. ( I have 6 years) but they 2 gentlemen I interviewed with said I was their top choice, but the final decision wasn't theirs. Now that you have started training, I would like some insight on what everyone is thinking of to help make a decision. Thank you

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I'm curious, was this for the Hartford position?

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#81 01-18-2006, 05:18 PM

Experience really has nothing to do with it. Unless of course you have none then they can hire you cheaply.

#82 01-19-2006, 05:42 PM

It was not in either of those 2 places, and I would prefer not to say where until I decide what I am going to do. No advice from anyone out there??

#83 01-19-2006, 06:42 PM

sounds like a new hire went to training only to find out it wasn't the right fit and left; interesting the poster remark about candidate being "first choice"; same thing happened to me and after reading the true story about pl there is something not right with this contract/company; be forewarned.

#84 01-19-2006, 06:46 PM

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I wasn't hired after meeting with Pat. Irronically, Last week I got a call from them saying they hired the wrong person and wanted to speak to me again. I am willing to meet with them again because I do think it is a good product. Now after reading the good and bad from all of you, I am a little nervous. I asked point blank why I wasn't hired and it was related to experience. ( I have 6 years) but they 2 gentlemen I interviewed with said I was their top choice, but the final decision wasn't theirs. Now that you have started training, I would like some insight on what everyone is thinking of to help make a decision. Thank you

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--------what do you mean by your not being hired due to experience and yet you say you have SIX YEARS!! I don't understand - did they not want previous pharma sales experience?!

#85 01-20-2006, 12:19 AM

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I wasn't hired after meeting with Pat. Irronically, Last week I got a call from them saying they hired the wrong person and wanted to speak to me again. I am willing to meet with them again because I do think it is a good product. Now after reading the good and bad from all of you, I am a little nervous. I asked point blank why I wasn't hired and it was related to experience. ( I have 6 years) but they 2 gentlemen I interviewed with said I was their top choice, but the final decision wasn't theirs. Now that you have started training, I would like some insight on what everyone is thinking of to help make a decision. Thank you

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--------what do you mean by your not being hired due to experience and yet you say you have SIX YEARS!! I don't understand - did they not want previous pharma sales experience?!

[/ QUOTE ]You just don't see the Big Picture. There you were in an arena. If you'd looked up to the box seats (just above the lion dens) you would have seen Pat with the Laurel Leaves around her pointy little head. She saw you (at least on paper) and on a whim pointed her thumb DOWN. Don't try to understand GODS!!!! GODS can do anything they want. But when they fall, RUN. When mortals play God they will eventually come crashing to the ground.

#86 01-20-2006, 08:38 AM

This certainly clarifies a lot; sounds like one screwed up company; is this the reason (PL) the entire RB company thread was pulled from this board as PSS was starting to hire for the suboxone contract?

#87 01-21-2006, 02:35 AM

You got it! It's kind of like old Russia where there is only one party and no dissention is tolerated. One word against the "party line" and it's off to the Gulag.

#88 01-24-2006, 04:22 PM

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You got it! It's kind of like old Russia where there is only one party and no dissention is tolerated. One word against the "party line" and it's off to the Gulag.

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Let's not forget about CH in this whole saga! He pulls PL's strings!

#89 01-26-2006, 12:36 PM

I said I had have 6 years of sales expereince, in medical device not pharma. So that is where the confusion was. Sorry!! Still sounds like alot needs to be clarified on RB's end to make this successful.

#90 01-26-2006, 01:17 PM

What exactly is the story with this contract? It sounded really great originally; were they less than forthcoming with the truth?

#91 01-27-2006, 06:57 AM

The drug is good. Management are assholes.

#92 01-28-2006, 03:41 PM

Management here is not any worse than any other co. You have good and bad. PL is driven, a hard worker, and expects a lot. If that frightens you than you are right, this is not the palce for you. If you do not want the accountability of your own territory, or you rely on your pod members to to the work stay away. I have been here a while and do not regret it on bit.

#93 01-28-2006, 09:06 PM

ok Toni--quit adding the virtues of RB--they will do anything to get around bonus pay outs...be careful on this board. Toni and Chris are know to add .02.

#94 01-28-2006, 09:09 PM

Yeh, really, we all know that Pat and Chris are assholes!!

#95 02-23-2006, 08:37 PM

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I have a phone interview soon. What is the salary...is there a car? etc.

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#96 02-25-2006, 09:08 PM

worry about if you like the product, your manager, the company, the other stuff doesn't mattter (well except the salary).

#97 02-26-2006, 07:16 AM

Decent product, great dm, rave reviews from my preliminary interview (highly experienced pharma rep, highly educated, great relationships in area) - thought I was in; then I met with the emperor who thumbs downed me for no logical reason; can't understand what happened, received zero explanation from anyone (probably since there wasn't any); just go into this process with the understanding that anything can happen.

#98 02-26-2006, 08:19 AM

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Decent product, great dm, rave reviews from my preliminary interview (highly experienced pharma rep, highly educated, great relationships in area) - thought I was in; then I met with the emperor who thumbs downed me for no logical reason; can't understand what happened, received zero explanation from anyone (probably since there wasn't any); just go into this process with the understanding that anything can happen.

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Emperor is a good name for her!!! lol