PetCareRx selling Promeris to consumers

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

Looks like it took little time for websites to sell this
Buying direct?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

Looks like it took little time for websites to sell this
Buying direct?

Hey fucknuts, check your little website again. No more Promeris. Guess we're doing what we said we would do. So sorry. Try again.

Oddly enough Merial and Bayer products are still available on that site.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey fucknuts, check your little website again. No more Promeris. Guess we're doing what we said we would do. So sorry. Try again.

Oddly enough Merial and Bayer products are still available on that site.

Listen, you FD reps say how wonderful this Promeris is. If it's truly that good, people WILL want it. Guess what that means.......... someone will sell it to an online pharmacy. By the way, thats why (unfortunately) Merial products among a slew of others, are on Petmed express. People will find a way. So climb down off your high horse and do your best to keep it off those sites. But you will not prevent it from happening. Supply and demand. There is a demand, so there will be a supply.

The difference is duckyhomo ... the supply will be cut off. Anyone that sells to online pharmacy will not be able to buy anymore Fort Dodge.

(1)Put that in your boyfriends weiner and smoke it.
(2) Feel free to mix in an economics class or two.

Fort Dodge vaccines are in every feed store and the company has been diverting vaccines for years. Funny now they say we they are vet only? Why don't you cut all the feed stores off silly girl?

Originally Posted by duckywafer

Listen, you FD reps say how wonderful this Promeris is. If it's truly that good, people WILL want it. Guess what that means.......... someone will sell it to an online pharmacy. By the way, thats why (unfortunately) Merial products among a slew of others, are on Petmed express. People will find a way. So climb down off your high horse and do your best to keep it off those sites. But you will not prevent it from happening. Supply and demand. There is a demand, so there will be a supply.

OOOOOHHHH that smelllLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bring my little website copy of Promeris online to each doctor. They all tell me about the barcodes and what a seling point it was to the rep as they bragged about it!!! Chewy treat, anyone??

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey fucknuts, check your little website again. No more Promeris. Guess we're doing what we said we would do. So sorry. Try again.

Oddly enough Merial and Bayer products are still available on that site.

Hey stupid Ft Dodge Fucknuts - tghe product is back up un their site
Guess you don't have the balls to scare em enough !

har har har

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey stupid Ft Dodge Fucknuts - tghe product is back up un their site
Guess you don't have the balls to scare em enough !

har har har

And once again it will be removed. For the last time asshole, our tracking program WILL NOT keep Promeris from reaching the internet, only allow us to identify the diverter and cut them off from future purchases.

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

still there......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And once again it will be removed. For the last time asshole, our tracking program WILL NOT keep Promeris from reaching the internet, only allow us to identify the diverter and cut them off from future purchases.

yeah, yeah
Same shit same story as Merial. Your product is only equal to Frontline not better. You will need to make numbers and you will sell your soul for the profit you profit whore.
Hey, I will give you 5% commission on a $250,000 order. I will sell it to PetCareRx myself and you can get some dough to buy some soap for your potty mouth - How did you luck into a job with Ft Dodge or are you secretly a cow manure cleaner in a feedlot situation??

Good Job Ft Dodge - you have managed to make a total ass of your employees by bragging how you are going to control this market and within 32 days having your product up on one of the biggest diversion websites in America. How's it feel to have that shit between your teeth ????

Target here we come !!!

By the way I gave you a grumpy face......

Originally Posted by Anonymous

And once again it will be removed. For the last time asshole, our tracking program WILL NOT keep Promeris from reaching the internet, only allow us to identify the diverter and cut them off from future purchases.

You know it - you're screwed and you look stupid doing it

Ft Dodge is NO BETTER than anyone else at keeping product out of mass retailers - Target here we come !
Problem is - that is the only promise you have been selling is that it will not end up online and now you look stupid..

How does Tony Montana (scarface) say it?...."well look at you now jew stupid fuck"

Okay, that was funny!

TRY TO BUY THE PROMERIS. YOU CANNOT PURCHASE IT. FORT DODGE DID IN FACT DO WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. NOW KEEP SHOWING THE CLINICS THIS AND ALSO POINT OUT WHERE IT SAYS BEST SELLERS RIGHT NEXT TO "NO PROMERIS FOUND" I GOT 3 ORDERS TODAY BECAUSE OF YOUR IDIOTIC MOVES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU ARE SO SILLY SOMETIMES. ONE SITE WHERE WE PULLED IT AND RIGHT NEXT TO IT IT SHOWS NOT ONLY YOUR FLEA AND TICK BUT YOUR HEARTWORM PRODUCTS AS WELL...FRIGGIN GENIUS OF YOU! BUT THANKS AGAIN!

Vaccines??? what about your vaccines in the feedstores. Fort Dodge vaccines are in every feed store and the company has knowingly been diverting vaccines for years. When do you plan on stopping the vaccine diversion?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Vaccines??? what about your vaccines in the feedstores. Fort Dodge vaccines are in every feed store and the company has knowingly been diverting vaccines for years. When do you plan on stopping the vaccine diversion?

Wait,,,,,,I thought we were talking about Promeris. When shit doesen't go your way, you want to change the subject to vaccines.
Make up you mind what you want to bitch about!

Originally Posted by Ft Dodge hypocritical brags

yeah, yeah
Same shit same story as Merial. Your product is only equal to Frontline not better. You will need to make numbers and you will sell your soul for the profit you profit whore.
Hey, I will give you 5% commission on a $250,000 order. I will sell it to PetCareRx myself and you can get some dough to buy some soap for your potty mouth - How did you luck into a job with Ft Dodge or are you secretly a cow manure cleaner in a feedlot situation??

Good Job Ft Dodge - you have managed to make a total ass of your employees by bragging how you are going to control this market and within 32 days having your product up on one of the biggest diversion websites in America. How's it feel to have that shit between your teeth ????

Target here we come !!!

By the way I gave you a grumpy face......

5% commission? Done! Beats the hell out of our shitty bonus plan.

I was told the promeris is having bad reactions by pets and Petcarerx and petmed yanked it before the epa recall. This product did not have a chance to make it. Who writes that on a box. Consumers are smart these days and have learned to trust online and a positive source. Now the epa gets involved. I guess online was right not to see it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I was told the promeris is having bad reactions by pets and Petcarerx and petmed yanked it before the epa recall. This product did not have a chance to make it. Who writes that on a box. Consumers are smart these days and have learned to trust online and a positive source. Now the epa gets involved. I guess online was right not to see it.

the epa doesn't need to yank it, clinics are sending it back on their own. even fd's president is worried about all the returns. how do i know? he approached a distributor selling both promeris and vectra at a recent convension to inquire about the returns of promeris compared to vectra. clinics might to slow to bring in vectra, but they ain't sending it back.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the epa doesn't need to yank it, clinics are sending it back on their own. even fd's president is worried about all the returns. how do i know? he approached a distributor selling both promeris and vectra at a recent convension to inquire about the returns of promeris compared to vectra. clinics might to slow to bring in vectra, but they ain't sending it back.

Slow?
Vectra 3D is not selling. End of story. Your product and marketing suck.
Tell us at Fort Dodge how you are doing compared to budgeted sales?
Vets will not return what they do not buy.

Just want to say that I am an assistant practice manager, we are selling promeris, at least for now. We have had many reactions to the product. Fact of the matter we trusted the product- our clients trust us- and now they don't. All of them say they will NEVER use it again. Can't say I blame them!!

As far as you guys bantering each other- you should be ashamed at the way you are talking to each other. Many people already look down on your companies enough- it just makes them look even sillier.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just want to say that I am an assistant practice manager, we are selling promeris, at least for now. We have had many reactions to the product. Fact of the matter we trusted the product- our clients trust us- and now they don't. All of them say they will NEVER use it again. Can't say I blame them!!

As far as you guys bantering each other- you should be ashamed at the way you are talking to each other. Many people already look down on your companies enough- it just makes them look even sillier.

Oh, go sit on a corkscrew and rotate. We're just having fun....

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just want to say that I am an assistant practice manager, we are selling promeris, at least for now. We have had many reactions to the product. Fact of the matter we trusted the product- our clients trust us- and now they don't. All of them say they will NEVER use it again. Can't say I blame them!!

As far as you guys bantering each other- you should be ashamed at the way you are talking to each other. Many people already look down on your companies enough- it just makes them look even sillier.

This is a board for REPS !!!! Get off of it. Who told you about it? Makes me believe that the post is a fake. If not, get your own board.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just want to say that I am an assistant practice manager, we are selling promeris, at least for now. We have had many reactions to the product. Fact of the matter we trusted the product- our clients trust us- and now they don't. All of them say they will NEVER use it again. Can't say I blame them!!

As far as you guys bantering each other- you should be ashamed at the way you are talking to each other. Many people already look down on your companies enough- it just makes them look even sillier.

You’re posting this at 10:00 AM on one of the busiest days of the week for clinics.
Your boss is sure getting his/her value with you at the helm. Get your ass back to work before your boss realizes you need to be an X-assistant practice manager.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just want to say that I am an assistant practice manager, we are selling promeris, at least for now. We have had many reactions to the product. Fact of the matter we trusted the product- our clients trust us- and now they don't. All of them say they will NEVER use it again. Can't say I blame them!!

As far as you guys bantering each other- you should be ashamed at the way you are talking to each other. Many people already look down on your companies enough- it just makes them look even sillier.

"Assistant" practice manager. Isn't that a receptionist?

Wow! I can't believe Mr. "Fuck Nuts"! Seriously? No wonder you work for FD. They are the only company low enough to hire you with that attitude! And I did a search for promeris today and found it on yet ANOTHER website for sell. (The cat product) Keep trying to sell your story...

Especially since your story is hypocritical. You (FD) sell vaccines and other products DIRECTLY to Fosters and Smith and feed stores, etc. that compete directly with the veterinarian and then turn around with ONE inferior product and claim you are the better company! Seriously, make up your mind already.

90% of the posts on this forum are unbelievably juvenile. These are supposedly sales reps from veterinary pharmaceutical companies? If they are a true reflection of their employer/company, I would not do business with either them or the company. Grow up people! and maybe stop poisoning pets.

Its even on eBay now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Promeris-for-Dog...QQcmdZViewItem

(copy and paste the above in your browser)

ebay item #120247087296

this seller has been selling it for almost a month with over 20 sells so far

Here's the deal. As a former FDAH rep, (and I can't stand the company now) I know that Fort Dodge has a hell of a time keeping products out of online selling. The reason for that is because there is always some vet that will want to make a killing financially and sign up to order the product for a company that wants to sell it online. FD then has to track down who that vet is and get them to cease and desist. I have no idea how hard FDAH tries to do this... I mean, a sale is a sale, right?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Here's the deal. As a former FDAH rep, (and I can't stand the company now) I know that Fort Dodge has a hell of a time keeping products out of online selling. The reason for that is because there is always some vet that will want to make a killing financially and sign up to order the product for a company that wants to sell it online. FD then has to track down who that vet is and get them to cease and desist. I have no idea how hard FDAH tries to do this... I mean, a sale is a sale, right?

um, they sell most products directly too some online outlets...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey fucknuts, check your little website again. No more Promeris. Guess we're doing what we said we would do. So sorry. Try again.

Oddly enough Merial and Bayer products are still available on that site.

I see your annoyed but is it necessary to use such language. I just happened by this website looking for information about Promeris. Boy, I received a lot more then I was looking for; mom always told me you can get more sugar with honey...might want to try some form of that quote. And, yes your website is now done and stopped selling the product. Good for you.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I see your annoyed but is it necessary to use such language. I just happened by this website looking for information about Promeris. Boy, I received a lot more then I was looking for; mom always told me you can get more sugar with honey...might want to try some form of that quote. And, yes your website is now done and stopped selling the product. Good for you.

Well you happened by the wrong place. This is a website for pharma reps to complain about internal/industry issues, bash competitors, start unfounded rumors and have fun annoying the pee out of each other. We also get a nice rise out of naive newbies from time to time too.

If it's info on Promeris you seek, please call your vet or visit www.promeris.com

[quote=Anonymous;2152026]http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

Looks like it took little time for websites to sell this
Buying direct?[/QUOTE

To Forte Dodge Animal Health
I (a veterinarian) appreciate you desire to protect the channel by which Pomeris is sold. Having said that, I hold that opinion only because I have not used your product yet in my hospitals because I am concerned about the emails and online posts that point out concerns about adverse reactions to this product. The doctors in our hospitals prescribe most all of the heartworm and flea products available to veterinarians to dispense. We are always happy to sell/dispense these products to our clients in our hospital, but are equally happy to prescribe these products for our clients to many of the online veterinary pharmacies. There are few are on staff that do not use the internet to shop for our daily wants and needs and therefore we see nothing wrong with our clients being able to 1)shop for a good deal, or 2)have the convenience of home delivery or shopping when we are not open. We also believe that the more the Veterinary Suppliers and Veterinarians fight the online pharmacy the more likely we are to loose our pharmacies all together as we recognize the ethical dilemma of profiting from dispensing medications to pets. Remember there is a reason why our family doctors do not dispense the medications they prescribe at the clinic because he courts have determined that to be unethical. So, our group believes that unless there is an unusual medical risk to this product (difficult to use or affinity towards side effects) this product should be made convenient for the consumer to obtain. This product is not FDA approved, rather EPA approved. Most EPA products are sold over the counter. I have shared this bar coding idea with a family member of mine who is a consumer class action attorney in Minnesota and he sees a huge opportunity in the near future on behalf of pet owners because of this practice by companies like Forte Dodge. This is another example of a failure by Forte Dodge (Etogesic and Dicurol). Novartis, Merial, Bayer and others on 5-10 years ahead on this idea and are beginning to accept the online pharmacy as a viable option/solution for many pet owners. Forte Dodge should do the same. Obviously Promeris has many more side effects than your vaccine line as I see your vaccines on many online sites and almost every pet supply magazines. I do not believe you have the same concern about your vaccines which we stopped using 7-10 years ago due to adverse side effects we had in the patients we administered them to. My final concern is in the lack of professionalism of the FD advocate on this site. If it is a FD employee it validates and cements my concerns about this product. Promeris may be a great product, but it will never take market share if it is not marketed and available in both the veterinary hospital as well as the online pharmacy and pet magazines. Ask Science Diet if they sold more food when they marketed only through Veterinarians. We (Veterinarians) would like to continue to be the convenient source of pet supplies, food and medications for our customers and our patients and are happy to yield to another source when we cannot be that source. Please stop fighting the internet. It is a reality, we all use it (including most of you at FD), and it has been proven to expand the market making the pie bigger for all of us. PS: We use Ketaset and Torbutrol/Torbugesic and congratulate you are these great products. Keep them in the Vet only market!

[quote=Anonymous;2318532]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

Looks like it took little time for websites to sell this
Buying direct?[/QUOTE

To Forte Dodge Animal Health
I (a veterinarian) appreciate you desire to protect the channel by which Pomeris is sold. Having said that, I hold that opinion only because I have not used your product yet in my hospitals because I am concerned about the emails and online posts that point out concerns about adverse reactions to this product. The doctors in our hospitals prescribe most all of the heartworm and flea products available to veterinarians to dispense. We are always happy to sell/dispense these products to our clients in our hospital, but are equally happy to prescribe these products for our clients to many of the online veterinary pharmacies. There are few are on staff that do not use the internet to shop for our daily wants and needs and therefore we see nothing wrong with our clients being able to 1)shop for a good deal, or 2)have the convenience of home delivery or shopping when we are not open. We also believe that the more the Veterinary Suppliers and Veterinarians fight the online pharmacy the more likely we are to loose our pharmacies all together as we recognize the ethical dilemma of profiting from dispensing medications to pets. Remember there is a reason why our family doctors do not dispense the medications they prescribe at the clinic because he courts have determined that to be unethical. So, our group believes that unless there is an unusual medical risk to this product (difficult to use or affinity towards side effects) this product should be made convenient for the consumer to obtain. This product is not FDA approved, rather EPA approved. Most EPA products are sold over the counter. I have shared this bar coding idea with a family member of mine who is a consumer class action attorney in Minnesota and he sees a huge opportunity in the near future on behalf of pet owners because of this practice by companies like Forte Dodge. This is another example of a failure by Forte Dodge (Etogesic and Dicurol). Novartis, Merial, Bayer and others on 5-10 years ahead on this idea and are beginning to accept the online pharmacy as a viable option/solution for many pet owners. Forte Dodge should do the same. Obviously Promeris has many more side effects than your vaccine line as I see your vaccines on many online sites and almost every pet supply magazines. I do not believe you have the same concern about your vaccines which we stopped using 7-10 years ago due to adverse side effects we had in the patients we administered them to. My final concern is in the lack of professionalism of the FD advocate on this site. If it is a FD employee it validates and cements my concerns about this product. Promeris may be a great product, but it will never take market share if it is not marketed and available in both the veterinary hospital as well as the online pharmacy and pet magazines. Ask Science Diet if they sold more food when they marketed only through Veterinarians. We (Veterinarians) would like to continue to be the convenient source of pet supplies, food and medications for our customers and our patients and are happy to yield to another source when we cannot be that source. Please stop fighting the internet. It is a reality, we all use it (including most of you at FD), and it has been proven to expand the market making the pie bigger for all of us. PS: We use Ketaset and Torbutrol/Torbugesic and congratulate you are these great products. Keep them in the Vet only market!

If you are so in-touch with the modern world, why don't you use modern meds? You might as well forgo inhalant anesthesia,. Ask a human doctor how much ketaset they use for induction. Your goals of anesthesia are severally out of whack, and so is your willingness to forgo profit to Betty White. Use a little propofol(be sure to titrate to effect), try 0.5mg/kg of morphine, join progressive medicine, and flip Betty the finger.
Otherwise your lawyer buddy might be sueing you for killing a pet.

Stubmled across this board...how entertaining! Does FD really think the line will stay out of the retail sector, much less the Internet segment!?!? It's in pet & farm stores today...and on the web. There's too much $$$ in it for people not to divert it...for now.

Being a former rep for FD, I can tell you that no one is more upset than the sales rep that Promeris is going thru the internet and into the feed stores. The only way the rep makes any money is if the clinic buys it (and then it is iffy, because the company is known for screwing with the commissions).

[quote=Anonymous;2318532]

Originally Posted by Anonymous

http://www.petcarerx.com/pcrx/Produc...022&k=ProMeris

Looks like it took little time for websites to sell this
Buying direct?[/QUOTE

To Forte Dodge Animal Health
I (a veterinarian) appreciate you desire to protect the channel by which Pomeris is sold. Having said that, I hold that opinion only because I have not used your product yet in my hospitals because I am concerned about the emails and online posts that point out concerns about adverse reactions to this product. The doctors in our hospitals prescribe most all of the heartworm and flea products available to veterinarians to dispense. We are always happy to sell/dispense these products to our clients in our hospital, but are equally happy to prescribe these products for our clients to many of the online veterinary pharmacies. There are few are on staff that do not use the internet to shop for our daily wants and needs and therefore we see nothing wrong with our clients being able to 1)shop for a good deal, or 2)have the convenience of home delivery or shopping when we are not open. We also believe that the more the Veterinary Suppliers and Veterinarians fight the online pharmacy the more likely we are to loose our pharmacies all together as we recognize the ethical dilemma of profiting from dispensing medications to pets. Remember there is a reason why our family doctors do not dispense the medications they prescribe at the clinic because he courts have determined that to be unethical. So, our group believes that unless there is an unusual medical risk to this product (difficult to use or affinity towards side effects) this product should be made convenient for the consumer to obtain. This product is not FDA approved, rather EPA approved. Most EPA products are sold over the counter. I have shared this bar coding idea with a family member of mine who is a consumer class action attorney in Minnesota and he sees a huge opportunity in the near future on behalf of pet owners because of this practice by companies like Forte Dodge. This is another example of a failure by Forte Dodge (Etogesic and Dicurol). Novartis, Merial, Bayer and others on 5-10 years ahead on this idea and are beginning to accept the online pharmacy as a viable option/solution for many pet owners. Forte Dodge should do the same. Obviously Promeris has many more side effects than your vaccine line as I see your vaccines on many online sites and almost every pet supply magazines. I do not believe you have the same concern about your vaccines which we stopped using 7-10 years ago due to adverse side effects we had in the patients we administered them to. My final concern is in the lack of professionalism of the FD advocate on this site. If it is a FD employee it validates and cements my concerns about this product. Promeris may be a great product, but it will never take market share if it is not marketed and available in both the veterinary hospital as well as the online pharmacy and pet magazines. Ask Science Diet if they sold more food when they marketed only through Veterinarians. We (Veterinarians) would like to continue to be the convenient source of pet supplies, food and medications for our customers and our patients and are happy to yield to another source when we cannot be that source. Please stop fighting the internet. It is a reality, we all use it (including most of you at FD), and it has been proven to expand the market making the pie bigger for all of us. PS: We use Ketaset and Torbutrol/Torbugesic and congratulate you are these great products. Keep them in the Vet only market!

I'm sure the DEA would take issue with selling Torbugesic, Torbutrol or Ketaset online or in feed stores.

I know you guys are trying, but you'll never keep up with the black market. Too many vets willing to sell out their profession.

http://www.totalpetsupply.com/index....FQNHFQodIDjyCg

Originally Posted by Distributor rep

I know you guys are trying, but you'll never keep up with the black market. Too many vets willing to sell out their profession.

http://www.totalpetsupply.com/index....FQNHFQodIDjyCg

And now

http://www.1800petmeds.com/ProMeris-prod11044.html

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