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Old 04-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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I took the pre-employment screen online assessment test this past Saturday. I was shocked when the computer came back with the following statement immediately after hitting the submit button:

"Thank You
You have completed the electronic prescreen and your answers have been submitted.

The results of our process indicate that other applicants are more specifically suited to our current sales positions. Thus, you will not be considered for a sales position at this time. We ask that all candidates wait at least six months before re-entering this system or applying for sales positions with Eli Lilly and Company. Any information received prior to the six-month timeframe will not be processed through our system.

Thank you for your interest in Eli Lilly and Company. Please feel free to visit our website at www.lilly.com/careers/ to apply in the future."

I was applying for the hospital position which will be responsible for selling prasugrel in the cath lab setting. I have five years of successful cath lab experience not to mention seven total years of pharmaceutical/medical device experience. For three days I "stewed" about this because I could not believe a company would turn down a perfectly experienced candidate because of an online assessment test that asked a lot of repetitive psychology type questions. I read on another forum where a candidate used a different email address and re-took the test so I did the same thing...Low and Behold, I passed this time. Instead of answering "top 10%" when asked questions such as "how do you compare yourself to others on your selling ability," I answered "better than anyone else." I also made sure not to give away my age by being vague on any of the college questions - although I am not ancient (36 yrs old - that's old to most of you guys on this forum, I think! : ) I have been reading where you need to be careful on this pre-employment screening to not portray you have too much experience or are too independent. You must be willing to answer questions that allow for a supervisor to "supervise" you at all times...in my past experience, all of the hiring managers wanted reps who they didn't have to "babysit" so the first time I took the test, I answered based on this. The second time I took the test, I practically begged for my manager to hold my hand. Go figure!

In closing, I am sure the Lilly HR dept will not consider my application because I took the pre-screening assessment test twice in three days as I did use same exact contact info and resume (no way around that); however, I just wanted to see for myself what type of person they are looking for. WARNING: DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BASED ON HOW YOU REALLY FEEL; ANSWER THEM HOW YOU THINK A MICRO-MANAGER WOULD WANT YOU TO RESPOND. Simple enough.
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Old 04-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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To the O.P.:

You are not alone.....not by a long shot!!!

Many of my colleagues in Pharma, those already downsized or fortunate enough to still have their current territory --- not one of them has ever been able to pass the LILLY screen! not once!!!

The LILLY SCREEN will ask you several different ways when it was you graduated college, how many jobs since college, have you been out of college more then 10 yrs; and then ask you for specific yrs of total prior pharm sales or yrs working in each area of concentration (disease discipline), etc. All in an attempt to skirt around asking your AGE!!

As far as I am concerned, and Schering-Plough has followed the same on-screen "ass-ment" process that LILLY has.......IT'S THEIR LOSS!!


I just had a Recruiter call me about a DENTAL Sales opportunity.....better base and damn good benefits! she's forwarded my resume' directly to the VP of Sales!! Just thought I would pass that along for those looking outside of LILLY!
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Old 07-02-2008, 09:23 PM
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I took the pre-employment screen online assessment test this past Saturday. I was shocked when the computer came back with the following statement immediately after hitting the submit button:

"Thank You
You have completed the electronic prescreen and your answers have been submitted.

The results of our process indicate that other applicants are more specifically suited to our current sales positions. Thus, you will not be considered for a sales position at this time. We ask that all candidates wait at least six months before re-entering this system or applying for sales positions with Eli Lilly and Company. Any information received prior to the six-month timeframe will not be processed through our system.

Thank you for your interest in Eli Lilly and Company. Please feel free to visit our website at www.lilly.com/careers/ to apply in the future."

I was applying for the hospital position which will be responsible for selling prasugrel in the cath lab setting. I have five years of successful cath lab experience not to mention seven total years of pharmaceutical/medical device experience. For three days I "stewed" about this because I could not believe a company would turn down a perfectly experienced candidate because of an online assessment test that asked a lot of repetitive psychology type questions. I read on another forum where a candidate used a different email address and re-took the test so I did the same thing...Low and Behold, I passed this time. Instead of answering "top 10%" when asked questions such as "how do you compare yourself to others on your selling ability," I answered "better than anyone else." I also made sure not to give away my age by being vague on any of the college questions - although I am not ancient (36 yrs old - that's old to most of you guys on this forum, I think! : ) I have been reading where you need to be careful on this pre-employment screening to not portray you have too much experience or are too independent. You must be willing to answer questions that allow for a supervisor to "supervise" you at all times...in my past experience, all of the hiring managers wanted reps who they didn't have to "babysit" so the first time I took the test, I answered based on this. The second time I took the test, I practically begged for my manager to hold my hand. Go figure!

In closing, I am sure the Lilly HR dept will not consider my application because I took the pre-screening assessment test twice in three days as I did use same exact contact info and resume (no way around that); however, I just wanted to see for myself what type of person they are looking for. WARNING: DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS BASED ON HOW YOU REALLY FEEL; ANSWER THEM HOW YOU THINK A MICRO-MANAGER WOULD WANT YOU TO RESPOND. Simple enough.


TO OP:
Did they ever contact you even though you took the test twice?
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Old 07-02-2008, 11:08 PM
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I don't have a clue as to the way these screens are devised, but I took the pre-screen and did pass! I have always been a hospital rep with 16 years experience, have rarely had to be assigned to a pod/team and have had national and local accolades. Conversely, I took the TSA Homeland security screeening test and failed-- I won't be greeting any of you at the airport!
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Old 09-24-2008, 01:16 AM
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I just recently took this "test" as well--"don't worry, there are no right or wrong answers." MY ASS!
I'm like the original poster with 7 years in pharma (couple in specialty) and I too was rejected! I know reps with Lilly and no one ever said how idiotic this thing is. Am I out altogether?? I mean, come on, that cannot be the decisive mechanism!
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, especially now that there are a boat-load of us who were recently laid-off and need jobs!!! Thanks for any input out there!!
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Old 09-24-2008, 06:03 PM
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I just recently took this "test" as well--"don't worry, there are no right or wrong answers." MY ASS!
I'm like the original poster with 7 years in pharma (couple in specialty) and I too was rejected! I know reps with Lilly and no one ever said how idiotic this thing is. Am I out altogether?? I mean, come on, that cannot be the decisive mechanism!
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, especially now that there are a boat-load of us who were recently laid-off and need jobs!!! Thanks for any input out there!!
I passed and for sure I cannot remember the specifics of the screening, but only that I rushed through it and was as honest as possible. Some of the questions were a little strange and by the time the company contacted me I was not even interested in the job anymore. Maybe that is part of the test.
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Old 10-18-2008, 11:30 PM
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Arms Re: Pre-Employment Screen

Does anyone know if they will catch you if you have two profiles? I did the same thing setting up two profiles after failing the first test and I got contacted for an interview!!! Help!!! Anyone high level out there want to delete my profile
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:28 AM
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Well...how did the interview go?
Did they notice you had 2 profiles?
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:45 PM
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I took the on line screening, had a phone interview and was contacted to have all this paper work completed and faxed to the home office within 48 hours. This included having undergraduate transcripts sent and 3 DMV reports for the last 3 years sent. All this and then 2 days later I get an email saying that the position that I applied for is no longer available. WTF.
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Old 10-21-2008, 06:44 PM
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Welcome to Lilly!
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:52 AM
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I too took the screening test and I did not pass. I have 10 years in the industry. 5 in primary care and 5 as a specialty rep calling on hospitals, CV/HIV/ID/Endos... specialists, public health clinics, major university teaching centers UCLA and USC, VA hosptials...

Wow I do not know what Lilly is lookin for but from the questions on the screening test I believe they are looking for a person who does not question authority. They want someone to take their marching orders and follow the plan as strictly as possible.

I am a very successful rep and have gone toe to toe with many thought leaders in the health care arena and for Lilly to screen out talented people is a shame.

I answered the questions as honestly as possible. I could have answered it the way Lilly wanted but I decided to not play the game and was truthful.

Maybe it was a good thing I did not pass. This company seems very regimented/Military style. They should go after people who are just finishing their duty from the military who are used to taking orders without questioning the plan. Maybe that is why one of the questions was are you a military veteran?

Good luck to all in the industry I hear that many are going to be cut in 2009. Major field sales reduction.
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Old 10-23-2008, 12:09 AM
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Now if you had just graduated from college and had cheerleader on your resume you would have been golden. Sorry try again in 6 months.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:43 PM
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Glad I found this thread, sorry getting in a little late but my post will bump it back up. A quick Google search showed me that I am not alone with my head scratching. Yeppers, I "failed" it as well. Strange the hoops an experienced rep (10 years, documented success) with an MBA has to go through, but Lilly takes the cake. That is an hour of my life I won't get back. Curious the thoughts on questions designed to assess age, etc. Could be right. I am in my 40s and thought it was ridiculous to be answering questions about my high school career and what my parents thought of my grades in undergrad. If this is how they treat people coming into the company, I could only imagine how the employees are made to feel. Fuck you Lilly and fuck your pre-screen. Oh and by the way, the question on how long it takes for me to rebound emotionally from a set-back - there should have been an option for "just long enough to Google 'Lilly employment screen' and write nasty post on cafepharma." Thanks, over it already.
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:55 PM
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Lilly has psychologists on staff to create these cute puzzles.

I passed, and I was consistent in my answers. Enough said.
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:11 PM
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It is not a Lilly test, but a test that they use from a company called e-selex. Trust me (and hard to tell if your'e being arrogant or not, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are being sincere) I answered all of my questions consistently and did not pass. My guess is, my consistent answers showed that I am older, would have higher salary requirements than other candidates and don't need as much supervision as a college hire which probably translates to not "moldable."
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:03 PM
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Efient's a tough sell. Side effects almost as bad as positive effects. Also, not very stable stuff. It's full of problems. Maybe you are lucky.
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Old 01-29-2012, 04:28 PM
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Efient's a tough sell. Side effects almost as bad as positive effects. Also, not very stable stuff. It's full of problems. Maybe you are lucky.
To illustrate further, http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/angst.gif this could be you.
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Old 01-30-2012, 06:11 PM
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To illustrate further, http://www.scroogle.org/gifs/angst.gif this could be you.
Classic, thanks for the smile.
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