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Old 08-07-2008, 07:39 AM
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I'm a rep from another company and have been an alcoholic for 10+ years. I am at a point where I absolutely must do something but can't imagine going into an inpatient treatment center. I saw a post on another page about Vivitrol and saw the physician locator. I tried Campral a couple of years ago, but I never made it through the 5-day drying out period and basically just lied to the prescribing doctor so he would give it to me...but of course it was not effective without that wash-out period. So is Vivitrol better? Does it really work? I don't want to go to another doctor, spill my guts and try this if it isn't really effective. Please, serious replies only-please.
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Old 08-07-2008, 07:49 AM
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ex-vivitrol rep here. It definately works. You will crave alcohol less, and if you drink you wont feel anything near the euphoria you used to feel with alcohol in the past. I've even had docs tell me their patients told them the alcohol tasted bad when on the drug.

the problem: people who use alcohol to cope with other issues have no coping mechanism when on vivitrol so they HATE it and never return for future injections. Another problem: insurances cover this expensive drug very poorly so you may have to pay cash... but it definately works.
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:02 AM
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Thank you...but "people who use alcohol to cope with other issues have no coping mechanism when on vivitrol so they HATE it and never return for future injections"....isn't this essentially the problem with ANY alcoholic??? How much does an injection cost if you pay cash? I don't really care about that so much, just curious. Thanks again for your answer.
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Old 08-07-2008, 09:57 AM
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Vivitrol works. I never go more than a week without an office sharing a story about Vivitrol completely turning their life around.

Insurance coverage is variable by region, and in some parts of the country it's quite good. It has more to do with your employer than your insurance, and if you work for a pharma company, I bet you are covered with a $20 to $40 copay.

Either call one of those offices on the locator list, or call 1-800-vivitrol for hop in finding someone close to you.

To emphasize the last poster's point:
Go talk to somebody. Ask the doc you see to recommend a good counselor or therapist. This part is very important. If you go to a counselor and don't like him or her, go find a different one.

The out pocket cost is around $715. You might to shop a few pharmacies to find that price.
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Old 08-07-2008, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Does Vivitrol work? This is a legitimate question

How quickly do patients start seeing/experiencing benefit? How long do patients generally stay on? Thanks again
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Old 08-07-2008, 08:23 PM
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How quickly do patients start seeing/experiencing benefit? How long do patients generally stay on? Thanks again

Clinical studies demonstrate significant separation from placebo by day 3.

Stick with it for a year. You can stay on it longer if you need to, but give yourself at least a year.
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Old 08-13-2008, 11:35 PM
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I just had my second Vivitrol shot 10 days ago, while I did have one relapse about two weeks after my first shot, I was impressed enough with the overall results to antie up and get the second shot. It is not a miracle drug, but when I combined it with attending AA meetings, getting a sponsor and working the steps of the Big Book - I now have a fighting chance. Vivitrol only helps with my physical cravings, AA helps me learn to cope with the mental side of the addiction and equips me with the tools to survive and prosper in a sober life.

Anyone going on Vivitrol needs to know that it functions as an opiate blocker, which also means it has the fringe benefit of making the abuse of opiates like vicodin, oxycontin and and the like all but useless wastes of money and time.

My insurance copay is only $20 per injection, but they are billed out by the doctor at $460 each (plus the cost of the dr visit). If you can afford it or have the money to get the shots, go for it - but only do so if you're going to combine it with AA. If you can't afford it, go to AA anyway, it's free, it works, and all you have to do is put in the effort and the miracles will happen.
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Old 08-15-2008, 08:26 PM
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Thank you for sharing your experience, I do appreciate it...best of luck to you, you sound like you are really on the right path.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:45 PM
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I just had my second Vivitrol shot 10 days ago, while I did have one relapse about two weeks after my first shot, I was impressed enough with the overall results to antie up and get the second shot. It is not a miracle drug, but when I combined it with attending AA meetings, getting a sponsor and working the steps of the Big Book - I now have a fighting chance. Vivitrol only helps with my physical cravings, AA helps me learn to cope with the mental side of the addiction and equips me with the tools to survive and prosper in a sober life.

Anyone going on Vivitrol needs to know that it functions as an opiate blocker, which also means it has the fringe benefit of making the abuse of opiates like vicodin, oxycontin and and the like all but useless wastes of money and time.

My insurance copay is only $20 per injection, but they are billed out by the doctor at $460 each (plus the cost of the dr visit). If you can afford it or have the money to get the shots, go for it - but only do so if you're going to combine it with AA. If you can't afford it, go to AA anyway, it's free, it works, and all you have to do is put in the effort and the miracles will happen.

thank you marketing team, we all know it's not that easy.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:47 PM
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I just had my second Vivitrol shot 10 days ago, while I did have one relapse about two weeks after my first shot, I was impressed enough with the overall results to antie up and get the second shot. It is not a miracle drug, but when I combined it with attending AA meetings, getting a sponsor and working the steps of the Big Book - I now have a fighting chance. Vivitrol only helps with my physical cravings, AA helps me learn to cope with the mental side of the addiction and equips me with the tools to survive and prosper in a sober life.

Anyone going on Vivitrol needs to know that it functions as an opiate blocker, which also means it has the fringe benefit of making the abuse of opiates like vicodin, oxycontin and and the like all but useless wastes of money and time.

My insurance copay is only $20 per injection, but they are billed out by the doctor at $460 each (plus the cost of the dr visit). If you can afford it or have the money to get the shots, go for it - but only do so if you're going to combine it with AA. If you can't afford it, go to AA anyway, it's free, it works, and all you have to do is put in the effort and the miracles will happen.
I smell a rat.
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Old 09-04-2008, 09:34 PM
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More like some jackass that is giddy over the rediculous sapling metaphore....seriously, how much money was pissed away paying Vox to change our "branding" when it could have been put into DTC ads in order to serve patients? Anyway, what the hell is up with the VBU marketing team outsourcing for marketing advice and direction? SK has just proven how clueless and irrelevant he is...atleast he's a nice guy...shit!!!! Somebody bodycheck his sorry ass...loser.
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:57 PM
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More like some jackass that is giddy over the rediculous sapling metaphore....seriously, how much money was pissed away paying Vox to change our "branding" when it could have been put into DTC ads in order to serve patients? Anyway, what the hell is up with the VBU marketing team outsourcing for marketing advice and direction? SK has just proven how clueless and irrelevant he is...atleast he's a nice guy...shit!!!! Somebody bodycheck his sorry ass...loser.
Not too mention, no more samples or VSPs for the remainder of 2008. That's like building house without the necessary tools. Oh I almost forgot, we have the new marketing materials. However, the senior managment team doesn't hesitate to have a strategic planning meeting in Kiawah, SC this week. I suppose that they just couldn't find the time in Utah three weeks ago to get this done. WTF??? If we are truly in a budget crunch, then why not meet in Philadelphia or Boston? Enjoy the golf boys...
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Old 09-16-2008, 06:30 PM
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Vivitrol kinda works but the Vivitrol management doesnt work at all!
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Old 09-17-2008, 12:20 PM
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Vivitrol kinda works but the Vivitrol management doesnt work at all!

I agree get rid of all the ASL's and MMD's. They are worthless and a complete waste of payroll.
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:25 AM
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You just need to get rid of the psycho one, you all know which one I'm talking about...
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Old 09-25-2008, 07:36 PM
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You just need to get rid of the psycho one, you all know which one I'm talking about...
I know of a big one in the west.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:09 AM
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Come on you guys, I think she has a thyroid issue that makes her overweight or maybe not. Also I would't call her psycho but she is one taco short of a mexican fiesta. She is El Vaca loco.
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Old 09-28-2008, 11:52 PM
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Come on you guys, I think she has a thyroid issue that makes her overweight or maybe not. Also I would't call her psycho but she is one taco short of a mexican fiesta. She is El Vaca loco.
Are you talking about an ASL?
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Old 11-22-2008, 10:30 AM
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I have been taking vivatrol since July and it has been nothing short of a miracle for me. I do not attend AA meetings or have a sponsor. I was a 12 pack of beer drinker everyday before taking the shots. I have not had a drink since. Not only has it taken away my urges to drink it also took away my urges to over eat as compensation for not drinking. The only down side for me has been a reduced sex drive. I highly recommend this shot for anyone who truly wants to quit drinking. I just cant believe they dont give this to more people. I still cant believe how effective it has been on me.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:02 PM
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I have been taking vivatrol since July and it has been nothing short of a miracle for me. I do not attend AA meetings or have a sponsor. I was a 12 pack of beer drinker everyday before taking the shots. I have not had a drink since. Not only has it taken away my urges to drink it also took away my urges to over eat as compensation for not drinking. The only down side for me has been a reduced sex drive. I highly recommend this shot for anyone who truly wants to quit drinking. I just cant believe they dont give this to more people. I still cant believe how effective it has been on me.
Thanks for sharing, and congratulations on your recovery.
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Old 11-23-2008, 08:54 PM
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I have been taking vivatrol since July and it has been nothing short of a miracle for me. I do not attend AA meetings or have a sponsor. I was a 12 pack of beer drinker everyday before taking the shots. I have not had a drink since. Not only has it taken away my urges to drink it also took away my urges to over eat as compensation for not drinking. The only down side for me has been a reduced sex drive. I highly recommend this shot for anyone who truly wants to quit drinking. I just cant believe they dont give this to more people. I still cant believe how effective it has been on me.
Why are you sharing this on Cafepharma?
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:01 PM
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These posts don't seem to be coming from real Cephalon employees or patients. What is up with that?
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Old 01-13-2009, 11:57 AM
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OK kids... It's dose of reality time. I sold Vivitrol and felt it was the best drug I ever sold. But this must be noted. If the patient does not do AA or counseling or something... They will eventually fail. Sorry, it's the truth.

Alcoholism is both an unconscious addiction and a habit. After you do something for 23 days it becomes a habit that the brain recognizes and expects. The brain likes normalcy. It likes repetition. For example, if you play a softball game with your friends in a league and then go to the bar for a few drinks... and each week you do the same thing... Eventually after softball you expect and look forward to going to the bar. That is habit, not addiction.

If it becomes that you HAVE to go to the bar and start making excuses why you have to play this week instead of going to your kid's parent teacher meeting... That's addiction.

So, if you decide to take a shot and still play softball... The brain is going to expect to go to the bar to hang with your boys. Which is where the alcohol is. You will go... And eventually fail. In other words, you need to make life changes... New hobbies, friends, etc.

A diabetic does not just take insulin... They have to learn to avoid sugar, carbs, etc. Those are the necessary changes in life that need to be made for that patient to succeed.
It is the same for Vivitrol. I loved selling it, and feel it was a great product... But only when coupled with realistic expectations. You have to work to get better. Sorry, I know all Americans want a quick fix. But, you can't quick fix genetics.

That said, I know you can beat it. But, do not be fooled by these phony posts of people running in fields of daisies after one shot. It is a greuling and terrible road. But, it's also life and none of us can hide from that. We all have to deal with it and move on.

Sorry for the dose of reality. But, I'd rather be the bad guy on here and be the one person who said if you really need the true story... If you really are someone struggling and not some joker playing around. I want you to succeed, cause when it's good. Life is really good.

Best of luck!
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Old 01-13-2009, 03:00 PM
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OK kids... It's dose of reality time. I sold Vivitrol and felt it was the best drug I ever sold. But this must be noted. If the patient does not do AA or counseling or something... They will eventually fail. Sorry, it's the truth.

Alcoholism is both an unconscious addiction and a habit. After you do something for 23 days it becomes a habit that the brain recognizes and expects. The brain likes normalcy. It likes repetition. For example, if you play a softball game with your friends in a league and then go to the bar for a few drinks... and each week you do the same thing... Eventually after softball you expect and look forward to going to the bar. That is habit, not addiction.

If it becomes that you HAVE to go to the bar and start making excuses why you have to play this week instead of going to your kid's parent teacher meeting... That's addiction.

So, if you decide to take a shot and still play softball... The brain is going to expect to go to the bar to hang with your boys. Which is where the alcohol is. You will go... And eventually fail. In other words, you need to make life changes... New hobbies, friends, etc.

A diabetic does not just take insulin... They have to learn to avoid sugar, carbs, etc. Those are the necessary changes in life that need to be made for that patient to succeed.
It is the same for Vivitrol. I loved selling it, and feel it was a great product... But only when coupled with realistic expectations. You have to work to get better. Sorry, I know all Americans want a quick fix. But, you can't quick fix genetics.

That said, I know you can beat it. But, do not be fooled by these phony posts of people running in fields of daisies after one shot. It is a greuling and terrible road. But, it's also life and none of us can hide from that. We all have to deal with it and move on.

Sorry for the dose of reality. But, I'd rather be the bad guy on here and be the one person who said if you really need the true story... If you really are someone struggling and not some joker playing around. I want you to succeed, cause when it's good. Life is really good.

Best of luck!
Great post, thanks for sharing.
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Old 01-15-2009, 06:27 PM
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You are welcome. I think that you gotta call a spade a spade. There is no use not being real here. We are all just trying to get through life.

Best of luck!
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Old 02-20-2009, 12:22 AM
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It works great, but its expensive if your insurance doesnt cover it.
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Old 05-29-2009, 12:37 AM
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"The brain is going to expect to go to the bar to hang with your boys. Which is where the alcohol is. You will go... And eventually fail."

This is based on the outmoded AA notion that any alcohol is a "fail." The whole point of the Vivitrol revolution is that the drug makes alcoholics' physiology like non-alcoholics'. That means that the patient doesn't need to suffer the social stigma of not attending social events in which alcohol is served. They can do it without so much danger of over doing it because you no longer get the short-term reward.

How do you people sell this stuff without knowing such basic concepts?
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Old 06-03-2009, 12:56 AM
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"The brain is going to expect to go to the bar to hang with your boys. Which is where the alcohol is. You will go... And eventually fail."

This is based on the outmoded AA notion that any alcohol is a "fail." The whole point of the Vivitrol revolution is that the drug makes alcoholics' physiology like non-alcoholics'. That means that the patient doesn't need to suffer the social stigma of not attending social events in which alcohol is served. They can do it without so much danger of over doing it because you no longer get the short-term reward.

How do you people sell this stuff without knowing such basic concepts?
Cephalon doesn't sell Vivitrol. Alkermes does.

How do you make such critical posts without knowing such basic information?
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:08 PM
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tough product to sell
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Old 07-29-2010, 05:27 PM
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To those who are paying for vivitrol are WASTING your money. I am a former heroin addict and alcoholic. You CAN get high both from alcohol and heroin while on vivitrol. I speak from experience.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:09 PM
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What side effects happen if you only wait 4 days without drinking, before taking vivitrol?
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Old 08-02-2010, 02:59 PM
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To those who are paying for vivitrol are WASTING your money. I am a former heroin addict and alcoholic. You CAN get high both from alcohol and heroin while on vivitrol. I speak from experience.
I dont know what they gave you an injection of but it surely was not Vivitrol!
While it has a very weak effect on alcohol (barely beats placebo) the heroin absolutely would not work.
Either you or your doctor are full of it.
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Old 10-10-2010, 05:55 AM
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Yes (unfortunately!) it works! I'm an alcoholic and love the effect of beer/wine/any alch. on my brain. That wonderful buzzed euphoric rush that feels so good and that also pushes me to keep on feeding it. With Vivitrol that's ALL GONE! I was not about to commit to this shot/injection without testing it after my first shot. So, on day 4 after my shot I got some beer and drank it and it was disgusting. No rush. No buzz. It took me two days to finish off a 6 pack just to experiment with this. I'd normally polish off a 6 pack in 1 hour or def less than 2 hours. But 2 days!?! Geesh. My alcoholic brain now tells me to not go get the next shot/injection because Vivitrol DOES WORK. You decide whether or not that makes you happy or sad.
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:05 AM
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Vivitrol definitely works, and NOTE what was in a post earlier. It is an Alkermes drug and is sold by Alkermes, NOT Cephalon. Alkermes terminated the co-marketing deal as Cephalon was not putting the proper investment in to marketing.
So contact Alkermes for more information- their CMO Elliot Erich is a good guy. They may be also able to help with cost if you can't afford it.
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Old 10-28-2010, 03:37 PM
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My MD put me on this after tragically my husband died and had heavy legal matters to attend to. I have been abusive of alcohol in the past as a coping mechanism. My MD prescribed this to me after I was Baker Acted for overdosing on dead husband's morphine meds. I thought I threw them all out with a MD friend. Afraid if I find anymore, it could be possible that I might take them. I did find more and tested to see if it works for opiates.....YES...YES! As far as the alcohol for me, don't notice much help but then I am drinking less and less. Been on shot for three months....my lovely MD gave it to me no charge because it is a sample. Love my MD...PS...counseling is the key whether is is AA or something else
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Old 10-29-2010, 09:30 PM
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made my hemroids flare up
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Old 02-07-2011, 10:03 PM
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I just took my first shot last week. I am taking for alcohol addiction. There are 2 things Vivitrol is supposed to do for alcohol. The first is prevent cravings. For me it has definitely failed there. I got to 30 days sober then relapsed twice since the shot. The second thing is to prevent you from enjoying alcohol. This it actually does, it really sucks if u are determined to get drunk. The analogy I can make is trying to get high off resin if you ran out of weed.
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Old 02-09-2011, 11:14 PM
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I just took my first shot last week. I am taking for alcohol addiction. There are 2 things Vivitrol is supposed to do for alcohol. The first is prevent cravings. For me it has definitely failed there. I got to 30 days sober then relapsed twice since the shot. The second thing is to prevent you from enjoying alcohol. This it actually does, it really sucks if u are determined to get drunk. The analogy I can make is trying to get high off resin if you ran out of weed.
Really?
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Old 03-02-2011, 05:20 PM
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Does anyone know how Alkermes is to work for?
Great info but I'm curious about this drug. I am an active member of AA and this drug has never been discussed at meetings. AA definitely works and it cost a dollar but is this a good company or not?
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:45 AM
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I am not real sure why everyone seems to be hating on one another in this post. The QUESTION was DOES VIVITROL WORK? Well I just got my first vivitrol shot today to help me stop abusing narcotic drugs after a serious car accident. Ive been using legal and non-legal drugs to deal with the pain for over a year now. All I can say is I have not felt this optimistic about being sober in a very long time. I am only 24 years old and I am sure with 8 broken vertebrae in my back that I have a long road ahead of me but I truly feel that Vivitrol works and will continue to help me on my road to sobriety. I have many friends who have been on Vivitrol for 3 or more months and all have stayed clean and highly recommended I go get the shot. If you are in the Southern California area I recommend you see Dr. Paul Cassidy, he is honestly one of the nicest but upfront Dr I have ever dealt with. The Average Doctor looks at all my Xrays and MRIs etc and just prescribes me more pain meds then I know what to do with.... which is LAME and gets me nowhere on improving my back!! SEE I originally went in to get the shot about 2 weeks ago but the Dr said I needed more "clean time" before I could get the shot, so I did just that. And although the road was definitely hard to get through I am SO HAPPY I got the shot TODAY, literally 12 hours ago, I cannot even express in words how happy I am for the future. Its weird its not just the shot that has affected me, its the fact that now I have NO choice but to be clean and deal with my pain in an adult manner, rather than getting f"up and forgetting my back is broken. See no matter what my 8 vertebrae will continue to bother me with or without painkillers, etc. Its the fact that I now have no choice but to deal with it and work on improving my overall health. See things in life happen for a reason and whether we like it or not its LIFE not DRUGS that are worth living for. Hope this answers some questions. Ill post again in a month or so and let everyone know how things went with my first month on the shot. AND NO I DO NOT WORK FOR OR INDORSE VIVITROL! SO JUST READ WHAT I HAVE TO SAY CAUSE IT COMES FROM THE HEART!!!!! I AM 24 YEARS YOUNG, TRUST ME I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH MY TIME THEN POST ABOUT SOME SHOT I JUST GOT IN MY BEHIND!
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Old 07-05-2011, 12:10 PM
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GOOD LUCK young man! My 24 yr old grandson is on the pill and will go on the shot in a few weeks. He is in his second month of a sober living treatment program which he did on his own and we see a BIG difference in him now and feel the next step will get him back where he can STAY on track with his life which HE wants. Drugs are a terrible addiction I don't wish on anyone as he tells me how hard it is to beat on your own.
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Old 07-08-2011, 01:52 PM
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All I can say is I used to sell Vivitrol and it was like another poster said, offices would relay success stories of sober patients to me all day long. I can honestly say that it was the most gratifying product to sell in my 20 years in the industry. It saves peoples lives. Period.

Granted, there are some hard core alcoholics who fought through the effects and continued to drink over them but they were few and far between. For the most part, the only way the drug stopped working for an alcoholic was if the alcoholic stopped going for injections which was very common because they were not actively in counseling or had enablers around them...
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Old 08-16-2011, 08:59 PM
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Just got the shot today after a week or so of being on the pill. I abused percocet for about 2 years, and got myself pretty dependent to the tune of 240-300 milligrams a day or more ( 10 x 30mg). Last month, I went off the percs cold turkey with some comfort meds provided by tge outpatient clinic. They then told me about naltrexone and vivitrol. I was resistant as I worried about side effects, and probably in the back of my mind I wanted to be able to take a perc still when I wanted. Well, two weeks after detox, I relapsed and a month later I was again dependent - had to detox withdrawals all over again. I said screw this, and started the Naltrexone immediately after I could give them the clean urine. Went to the clinic today and got the shot. No side effects to mention really. I will post again with uodates on cravings etc. But all I have read and heard is that this shot is great for people who want to be clean and sober. I dont have to drive home from work and have that mental tug of war of whether to stop and see my dealer for pills. The shot takes that mental struggle away because I know there is no point. I will not get high. Its like a personal watchdog, a babysitter for the mind of an addict as the mending process begins. I am very hopeful and optimistic and thats about as real and positive a testimony for this shot as anyone can give. Put it this way, two months ago I was a hopeless addict; then I was a fearful and anxious recovering addict who relapsed; today I feel good and comfortable in my recovery with no real craving or fear to replase.
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Old 08-18-2011, 12:42 PM
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Ok so i posted the last message above an heres my update after 3 days:

I've had a dull headache for 2 days. Not a sharp migraine, but rather a mild ache low in the head, around the eyes, ears and around the back of the head. For some reason, I felt the need to clentch my teeth and jaw the last few days hourly. It feels like some of the side effects of a totally synthetic opiod such as tramadol/ ultram. I feel clear, sober and well except those effects that come with those types of meds. I assume there exists a similarity the receptors are being attended to.

Its only day 3 so I dont expect miracles, but Im waiting to see when the cravings go away. I mean, Im not sitting here craving an opiate now but I definitely wouldnt say my urges have been ceased or silienced. In due time we will see how that goes.

Will check back in a few days.
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Old 08-18-2011, 09:36 PM
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To the person in recovery above - good luck to you! I hope you get through this difficult time and continue to live clean & sober.
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Old 08-21-2011, 05:49 PM
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Thank you to the poster above. Its now day 6 and thea headaches have subsided for the most part, still have some teeth and jaw clentching but not as bad as the first few days. I feel fine, maybe a little less motivation than Id like but again, I feel fine; theres nothing major to report. Oh, still waiting for this "craving reducer" effect. Its only been a week but I do not notice any mental reduction in the desire not to use, except for my own determination for progress in being back to normal- clean and narcotic free. As I stated in my first post, I think this shot is a babysitter, a leash sort to speak, for addicts in recovery. I have remained clean this week because I reconcile the fact that I cannot and will not get high. For that I am extremely pleased and would encourage anyone with an opiate problem to get on this shot and stay on this shot for a good amount of time. The relapse rates are just too high, and the withdrawals are just too tortuous and discouraging. Its a deadly and dangerous slope, so take this "leash" and humble yourself. You need it.
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Old 08-23-2011, 11:53 PM
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ok im 25 yrs old been hooked on gettin high since i was 16... my addiction was contained for 5 short years and during that time i got married graduated college bought a house two new vehicles and even a brand new harley... but my addiction showed its ugly face again and i got hooked on opiates... still kept my good job and everything was still ok in my material world... then i got hooked on crack.... spent all my money along with alot of my grandmothers... basically i lost everything i had worked for... long story short i just got out of jail about 4 days ago and was driven straight to the doc for the vivitrol shot... well on the way to the doc man i was feeling GREAT... i got the shot... the next day man i felt like shit... almost like i was in jail again (going through withdrawal)... now its been day 4 and i still feel bad... i dunno it may be all psycological... im a very mental person and i know this is all in my head.. and yes ill be honest i have tried drinking and i do get drunk but not a happy drunk... its weird its a mentally sober but physically intoxicating drunk... i also have tried coke and ha dont get high at all... so dont waist ur cash... but all the drugs aside.. i dont feel good... its early though... im going to stick it out.. i owe it to the people i love and have hurt... one thing u can count on ill always be honest!!! ill keep ya posted on what happens
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Old 08-24-2011, 09:13 PM
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Hello to the 25 year old poster above. Im the guy above who just got the shot last week and have been giving a couple updates. Before I comment on how you are feeling, let me just say that you and I have alot in common. I too have been getting high on one thing or another since I my early teens. When I was a teenager it was pot, then ectasy, coke and crack in my twenties, and just as I turned 30 most recently it became opiates- percocet to be specific. That being said, I am also college educated, I was successfully making six figues, bought a house, had a nice life. And within a year and a half, I basically lost my career, all of my savings, and some of my treasured possessions due to this addiction to opiates. Getting high was always just a part of the culture I grew up around. It followed my successes an my ego betrayed me by leading me to believe I could do whatever I wanted a long as I kept the grades up or as long as I was successful in my career. Unfortunately, its just a matter of time. As someone with addictive tendencies, you have to put the word "yet" after every sentence.
"I never let drugs interfere with my life- yet"
"I never stole from anyone to get high- yet"
"Ive never been arrested for possession- yet"


Its just a matter of time and it will all happen. Thats the crazy thing about addicts, we have no perception of what rock bottom is. Its just a matter of time and sounds like youve already experienced some of it. I dont even know you but I can tell you from your post that you dont belong anywhere near a jail. You gotta know that, right?

Okay, so heres my take on why you feel like crap, ready? You said you just got the shot 4 days ago and you then said you've (tried) getting drunk and youve done some coke. Its no wonder why you dont feel great, thats aint how it works. Give your body a rest man, let the shot do what it does without screwing it all up with coke and booze. Thats just nuts to do that and then wonder why you dont feel good. It isnt the shot that is making you feel bad, its the combination of an opiate blocker, alcohol and stimulants and whatever else you are putting in your body over the last few days. And I can only assume the crappy diet that goes with a coke and booze fueled 4 day period. Treat your body with some respect and stop poisoning it for a few. It doesnt sound like you are trying hard to be sober. I know habits are hard to break but this shot isnt a joke. It isnt a game on how to beat it. You're gonna close your eyes and not wake up if you keep screwing around combining drug blockers, booze and
street drugs. Good luck man, I'm 3 weeks clean and life gets better almost everyday.
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:59 PM
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To both posters above trying to put their lives back together - I am very glad you are posting. Things are pretty bad within the organization and (please don't take this the wrong way) but reading your posts make me realize how good things really are (it is a count your blessings feeling).
Take care both of you and good luck in your continued recovery.
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Old 08-26-2011, 09:47 PM
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Thank you for the comment above. Its been a foggy couple years dependent on opiates and a rocky couple months getting off them. If you read any of my recent posts above and take away anything, please know that despite being educated, intelligent, driven and successful, I fell into a dependent relationship with too many vices over my first couple decades of adult life. However, opiates were (are) BY FAR the darkest and physically most difficult compulsion to kick. This is why I am posting in this thread about the Vivitrol shot. Its a way out of this horrible cycle of physical addiction. I can honestly say that I understand completely and totally why people just cannot kick herion and opiates and ultimately end up dying an addict. The physical sickness and agony that are withdrawals are just about unbearable, especially when you get up into high doses of hundreds of milligrams. Believe me when I say its almost unrealistsic to come off it. Its a shame that kids are dying because they had no idea what they were getting into until it was too late and they were already physically dependent. Im 3 weeks clean and thank God I was able to beat this pitfall, even though it took alot from me mentally, physically, socially and financially. And I am thankful I got this shot a couple weeks ago so that I dont have to struggle with replase, which is a reality.
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