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Old 04-28-2009, 12:22 PM
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Kathy, I am not going to rip on how you dress, your body, your personal life or lack of. All that is really irrelevant. I sincerely hope you consider backing off on this sales force.You are making reps lives hell and especially RBDs. Never heard of your work life balance definition before...that's a new one to me. No one is happy right now and the common thread is you and perry. I know harsh but true. Do you really want everyone to quit?

Why can't you get a clue and just let your reps do their jobs without all this bullshit paper work? If a rep isn't performing then address it but don't make us all suffer with busy work that never pays off. Would love to ask you your thoughts on micromngment...you would have to say you live by it...right?

I have never been on here and seen such hatred towards one individual. Yeah, some of it is ridiculous but seriously Kathy...get a clue before you have another lawsuit on your hands. BACK OFF! Even platinum winners have said they would leave for something better...jst chill out and watch the sales for work for you. And Kathy we are not "having fun" as you say that is most important.

I hope you take this to heart, any other reps want to give some "real" advice to Kathy?
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Old 04-28-2009, 07:15 PM
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Kathy doesn't care what people think, even if they might be correct.
Don't make personal attacks when trying to convey your message.
If people don't produce, get rid of them, as long as they aren't just
falling short of your bullshit goals. Everyone I know has Lotemax goals
of 15 to 20 percent increases but the national average calls for 10%?

Treat your people like you would want to be treated, unless this is how
you want to be treated and in that case, treat us like we want to be treated.

Like adults.
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Old 04-28-2009, 11:12 PM
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This thread is great but what are we actually going to do about this situation? Do you actually think Phil, Jerry and Flemming read this? Would be great but we have to find other ways to get to them and stop the recent management changes.

We need ideas and need to come together as a sales force...let's not them run our lives!
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Old 04-29-2009, 08:09 AM
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This thread is great but what are we actually going to do about this situation? Do you actually think Phil, Jerry and Flemming read this? Would be great but we have to find other ways to get to them and stop the recent management changes.

We need ideas and need to come together as a sales force...let's not them run our lives!

An old person chiming in here, DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Even if you think there is nothing meaningful in a conversation, e-mail etc. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING. Kathy Kobe will implode on her own. Her need to win everything will be her demise, she has caused many people great anxiety. My advice is to do what she asks even if its ridiculous, document a hostile work environment and give a call to the attorney's that are representing those 17 women at Novartis to see if there is a common behavorial pattern. Don't wait, do it today, document everything. Also, remember that HR is NOT representing us, don't be fooled by that talk that they are there to help us.

Pass the Paxil and Xanax. Just remember that she will hang herself.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:25 PM
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Pass the Paxil? I'm going to my shrink today!
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:04 AM
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This thread is great but what are we actually going to do about this situation? Do you actually think Phil, Jerry and Flemming read this? Would be great but we have to find other ways to get to them and stop the recent management changes.

We need ideas and need to come together as a sales force...let's not them run our lives!

I warned you people about Flemming last year and few headed that I said he was a disaster at Novartis in his 2 year tenure there....they just did not "renew his contract." Ask why he went through 6 companies in 8 years as a "senior executive" and cannot stay at one place very long...

and ask him about his Lou Gerstner book on what he was reading to manage Novartis Ophthalmics...

don't forget to ask him about MUSIC!

His personal credo to manage Novartis Ophthalmics:

M= Make the numbers
U= Utilize all we have
S= Sample the right physicians
I = Integrate good management
C=Conceive of how to be the best


Yes, Flemming ran the company by MUSIC and gave us all a lecture on how when he was in college and when to concerts he was inspired to think of how good he can be...

I am not joking about any of this...

I am glad he is no longer here....

Oh, I heard he brought over that douchebag Perry Sternberg...sales went down for Visudyne the moment Perry took over and never recovered...

is this true?
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Old 06-04-2009, 11:59 AM
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Can we please remind kathy to read this again? I can't get over what a nightmare she is, everyday it's something new with this woman, she is truly a heartless bitch!

What can we do to bring this to someone's attention? This negativity she is bringing to this company has to stop...
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Old 06-05-2009, 11:24 AM
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Too bad we don't have a Union.
With the latest unjustified firings we should all form a walk out strike and let these brilliant upper management clowns launch Besi with their golden new expensive hires that don't have the office relationships to even able to use the staff bathroom much less get the Docs to pay for kits and write 3 scripts including a new me-too unproven drug.
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Old 06-05-2009, 08:04 PM
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LOL!!!!!
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Old 07-17-2009, 07:40 PM
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What is Kobe up to now? Who has she fired recently (document people)? Worked for her a few years ago, not a good experience
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Old 02-21-2011, 03:29 PM
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She seems to be hanging on.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:01 PM
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I have been wiating since I got hires for this rto happen!!!!! Thank GOD. DO ypou people on top rrad this?????? Fear. Humilitaion and uninspirational....her career should be OVER! Everyone feelsnthis way. Unvelievable the fact she has a job.
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Old 02-21-2011, 11:14 PM
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That was interesting English. But yes, some people are just not acceptable in life let alone in business. The only thing from keeping her from being homeless is her ability to pile the shit onto somebody else. Enjoy your company-paid BMW Z4 convertible, Kathy. I'm sure you really earned that beating out Pino in a contest that he could never win.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:15 AM
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She has a BMW paid for by B+L? What?
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Old 02-22-2011, 06:07 PM
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She "won" it in the great contest of West versus East. Then Pino was fired shortly after.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:19 PM
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She has Perry wrapped around her finger.
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Old 02-23-2011, 07:53 PM
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I think Perry might have her wrapped around something little of his too!!!
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:57 PM
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I am feel bad for the people that have to work with this woman and put up with all her bullshit. I work for a retail store and she is truly a nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such a pain in the ass! This woman is truly MISERABLE AND WANTS TO MAKE EVERYONE JUST AS MISERABLE AND UNHAPPY AS SHE IS!!!!!!!! What a BITCH. =o
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Old 07-09-2011, 01:59 PM
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I am feel bad for the people that have to work with this woman and put up with all her bullshit. I work for a retail store and she is truly a nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such a pain in the ass! This woman is truly MISERABLE AND WANTS TO MAKE EVERYONE JUST AS MISERABLE AND UNHAPPY AS SHE IS!!!!!!!! What a BITCH. =o
* I feel bad
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Old 07-12-2011, 12:54 AM
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Hope that BMW convertible company car is treating you well, KK.
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Old 07-19-2011, 12:22 AM
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She's finally leaving!
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Old 07-19-2011, 01:20 AM
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She's finally leaving!
I won't believe it until I see it.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:35 AM
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She's finally leaving!
You can have fun and produce if there is something new and innovative to get doctors excited about.
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Old 07-19-2011, 08:24 PM
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You can have fun and produce if there is something new and innovative to get doctors excited about.
I will believe it when I see it!!!!! If she is going..where???? Ista, to ruin that company too.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:48 AM
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The big question is why is she leaving and where is she going? If she functions anything like her train wreck past at B+L, then she should start taking the managers with her. When you see managers leave then you'll know who's in the KK fan club.
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:56 AM
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The big question is why is she leaving and where is she going? If she functions anything like her train wreck past at B+L, then she should start taking the managers with her. When you see managers leave then you'll know who's in the KK fan club.
Can anyone confirm she is actually leaving BL. I would be suprised that she would announce a departure so close to platinum club trip. Definitely, where is she going?
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:00 PM
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Is she really gone? I bet she went to Allergan for Botox + Benefits.
And she'll do it from Beverly Hills with submitting a PO box expense to the company because she is worried about her safety! Good bye.
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Old 08-09-2011, 03:11 AM
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Hello to all!

I just wanted to take a serious minute to let everybody know the deep rooted issue that lies before us! I have had history with both Perry and Kathy Kobe, Flemming from a previous company. What was funny was that they were in the same roll at Novartis. Their terrible reputation goes back a ways. Overall, I will not be the last to tell you that bausch & Lomb on the whole has had a bad reputation in the eye biz for years. Even my key physicians know this. You have to really know someone important to get somewhere here. I truly feel bad for minortites who make the mistake of working for these people. i've been through 5 managers, watch B& L take a very well promoted high end device and single handedly bring sells down!

Whats interesting is that no one can figure out how they manage to screw themselves and lose good people, sales and support from once dedicated physicians to back our product. This so-called new direction is the same ole shit printed another way! I'm glad I'm gone from this shit company!
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Old 08-09-2011, 07:16 AM
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Hello to all!

I just wanted to take a serious minute to let everybody know the deep rooted issue that lies before us! I have had history with both Perry and Kathy Kobe, Flemming from a previous company. What was funny was that they were in the same roll at Novartis. Their terrible reputation goes back a ways. Overall, I will not be the last to tell you that bausch & Lomb on the whole has had a bad reputation in the eye biz for years. Even my key physicians know this. You have to really know someone important to get somewhere here. I truly feel bad for minortites who make the mistake of working for these people. i've been through 5 managers, watch B& L take a very well promoted high end device and single handedly bring sells down!

Whats interesting is that no one can figure out how they manage to screw themselves and lose good people, sales and support from once dedicated physicians to back our product. This so-called new direction is the same ole shit printed another way! I'm glad I'm gone from this shit company!
So are we because you don't know the difference between sells and SALES, nor the difference between roll and ROLE.....MORON!
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:22 PM
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So Kathy where have you gone? Has she really left b&l and who would take her? So high maintenance! How's Perry doing?
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:39 PM
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Word on the street is she is without a job.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:40 AM
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Word on the street is she is without a job.
I'm sure she made well over $250k per year. If she has been with the company for 3 years that's a good amount of money she probably has saved up. Even if she has a house in the LA canyon area she got a lot of free things that were company paid. She doesn't need to work for a little while.

Also if you Google her name, CP comes up first on the list with all of the mad sh_t that she's done to people and/or let happen at this company. Any reasonable employer would recognize that she is not worthy of being anything more than a rep. She just happens to be one who has BS'd her way up the corporate ladder these past few years.

I wish her nothing but squalor and misery for what she has done to others.
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Old 09-22-2011, 09:56 AM
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Word on the street is she is without a job.
Is it true? Is she gone?
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:55 PM
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If this is true ......then there really is a god!
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Old 09-22-2011, 07:25 PM
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If this is true ......then there really is a god!
God is with a capital "G"
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:44 PM
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Kathy is the classic case of who you know matters most. Same with Perry. Neither of them have any particular knowledge, skill, or past success. They are dime a dozen clowns.
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Old 09-28-2011, 11:28 PM
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So is Kathy still with B&L? How will she do reporting to someone other than Perry?
Just interested in the high-maintenance drama...
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Old 09-30-2011, 08:02 PM
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So is Kathy still with B&L? How will she do reporting to someone other than Perry?
Just interested in the high-maintenance drama...
Yes - please. Dish the drama. Is KK leaning and where is PS going?
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Old 10-03-2011, 06:48 PM
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We all know which way Kathy leans. For a true historical document of some history on these 2 losers, google the Novartis discrimination lawsuit, which was successful. Their names are front and center.
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:14 AM
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We all know which way Kathy leans. For a true historical document of some history on these 2 losers, google the Novartis discrimination lawsuit, which was successful. Their names are front and center.
What you fail to realize is that they were not disciplined at all for it. They worked for Novartis for several more years and only left when Flemming brought them over with huge signing bonuses, 2X their base pay at Novartis, and titles indicating promotions. So what's new?

They have received a great deal of positive reinforcement for what you mention and it continues to go unchecked.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:15 PM
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SO. Does all of this mean that KK is NOT leaving? Where is PS moving (promoted)?
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:54 PM
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I am sorry to burst everyone's bubble but she is still with B&L and heading to Kansas City to do a meeting. Last time I heard she is spreading the same kind of love. woo woo woo...
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:50 PM
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I am sorry to burst everyone's bubble but she is still with B&L and heading to Kansas City to do a meeting. Last time I heard she is spreading the same kind of love. woo woo woo...
She is heading to Kansas to see her family. That's where they live. B&L is just paying the bill for another family visit.
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Old 11-04-2011, 06:49 PM
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Any more stories about Kathy? As someone who used to work with her I enjoy reading about how she leads her B&L team!
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Old 11-04-2011, 08:52 PM
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Any more stories about Kathy? As someone who used to work with her I enjoy reading about how she leads her B&L team!
Still on her broom cackling away. The words should be "misleads her B&L team."
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:52 PM
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The doctors hate her and the sales force hates her. Idiot Perry has her back, and other parts, end of story. She stays at Bausch and Lomb.
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Old 05-14-2014, 12:02 PM
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Heard she moved to Shire
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Old 05-14-2014, 12:43 PM
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Shit will hit the fan at Shire then. She is a paranoid micromanager that destroys the moral of the sales force. Doctors hate her. Your customers will hate you because of the things she will make you do. Good luck shire. Good riddens Kathy.
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Old 05-14-2014, 08:24 PM
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Oh CRAP! Came over from the Shire board to read up on KK and I fear the shit has hit the fan for us based on this woman's far reaching reputation. Paranoid, unqualified micromanager who is protected by PS. That customers and the sales force hates. Did I miss anything? F-ing unbelievable we're bringing this shit storm inside.
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Old 05-14-2014, 11:09 PM
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Let's be direct. She is not very talented, has no EQ, and is a cling-on for PS as who else would hire her. Sort of funny- the B&L toilet flushes and lands at Shire.
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