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Old 06-18-2009, 10:07 PM
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Default MARY HOLLOWAY CONVICTED

Does anyone know the story behind this?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JUNE 18, 2009
WWW.USDOJ.GOV/USAO/MA

CONTACT: CHRISTINA DiIORIO-STERLING
PHONE: (617)748-3356
E-MAIL: USAMA.MEDIA@USDOJ.GOV


PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY MANAGER SENTENCED FOR OFF-LABEL MARKETING

BOSTON, MA - A Branchburg, NJ, woman was sentenced today for violating the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, for marketing the drug Bextra for uses and dosages that were not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

Acting United States Attorney Michael K. Loucks; Warren T. Bamford, Special Agent in Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Boston Field Division; Susan J. Waddell, Special Agent in Charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Resident Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service; Kim A. Rice, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Office of Criminal Investigations, Metro Washington Field Office, Special Prosecution Staff; Jeffrey Hughes, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of Inspector General, Office of Investigations - Northeast Field Office; and Joseph Finn, Special Agent in Charge of the United States Postal Service, Office of Inspector General, Boston Field Office, announced today that MARY HOLLOWAY, age 47, of Branchburg, New Jersey, has been sentenced by United States Magistrate Judge Judith Dein to pay a $75,000 fine and twenty-four months of probation after pleading guilty to an Information charging her with distribution of a misbranded drug.

At the plea hearing, prosecutors told the Court that, had the case proceeded to trial the Government’s evidence would have proven, the following:

From approximately November 2001, through April 2005, HOLLOWAY was employed as a Regional Manager at a pharmaceutical company and was responsible for sales in her region of the drug Bextra. Bextra was a Cox-II inhibitor and had been approved in by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in November 2001 for the signs and symptoms of osteoarthritis, adult rheumatoid arthritis, at 10 mgs and primary dysmennorhea at 20 mgs, twice a day as needed. In 2001, the FDA specifically denied the request of the pharmaceutical company to approve it for acute pain, including the pain of surgery. The FDA told the pharmaceutical company that it could not approve it for these other indications because the safety in these other uses had not been established. Specifically, the FDA was concerned about the results of a study in which there was an excess of cardiovascular events in patients who had undergone coronary artery bypass graft surgery and used Bextra.

HOLLOWAY was aware of the FDA’s safety concerns, but that she nonetheless had her sales staff of approximately 100 employees sell Bextra for precisely the uses that the FDA refused to approve. For example, HOLLOWAY trained and encouraged her sales teams to promote Bextra by obtaining protocols from doctors that instructed that Bextra be used for the pain of surgery, an unapproved use, and at 20 mgs, an unapproved dose. HOLLOWAY also instructed her staff to market Bextra for use before, during and after surgery to reduce the risk of deep vein thrombosis, which is a form of life threatening blood clots, even though she knew there were no studies showing that Bextra was safe and effective for this use. Finally, HOLLOWAY encouraged her staff to make false safety claims about Bextra in order to sell the drug.

Acting United States Attorney Michael K. Loucks said, “We will continue to hold individuals responsible for their conduct in promoting pharmaceutical drugs outside of the uses for which they have been found to be safe and effective by the United States FDA. The conduct at issue here undermined the FDA’s regulatory scheme and put patients at risk for the purpose of pursing profits for the individual and the pharmaceutical company.”

Bextra was withdrawn from the market in April 2005.

The case was investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services, Special Prosecutions Staff for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Office of Inspector General for the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, and the Office of Inspector General for the United States Postal Service. It was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Sara Miron Bloom and Susan M. Poswistilo of Loucks’ Health Care Fraud Unit.
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:44 AM
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god this is old news. RM convicted of off label promotion. enough already
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Old 06-19-2009, 12:56 AM
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I don't know her but question for those who do-Has Karma come to her door? Did she Pfire reps based on false accusations so as not to pay them severance so she'd get brownie points with Big Brother Pfirezer?

They hate to pay anyone severance especially RM'S HUGE Severance! Guess RM's better start watching their back...what goes around....
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:45 AM
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What was the sentance??? I know quite a bit about the history of the case.
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Old 06-19-2009, 02:50 AM
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Never mind, upon review see that $75,000 fine and 24 months probation was the sentance.
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Old 06-19-2009, 09:43 AM
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Please it was only a misdemeanor. Pfizer will ultimately pay her fine. Least they can do since they threw her under the bus to protect their current executives.
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Old 06-19-2009, 10:08 AM
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What was the sentance??? I know quite a bit about the history of the case.
Are you a freaking moron? Please do not comment on someone's life until you know how to SPELL the word ("sentence" not "sentance") that you are referencing.

God we have some STUPID fucking people working at Pfizer! Damn!
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Old 06-22-2009, 09:18 AM
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how did the SE get away with this?

rampant bextra protocols everywhere in surgery. even a published book with success stories.. man.
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Old 06-22-2009, 02:30 PM
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Please it was only a misdemeanor. Pfizer will ultimately pay her fine. Least they can do since they threw her under the bus to protect their current executives.
I guess you weren't around when we all had to read the book The Oz Principle. Personal accountability was one of the over-arching themes. "They threw her under the bus" sounds like "they" forced Mary to do what she did, and then "threw her under the bus" when she got caught.
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:00 AM
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http://industry.bnet.com/pharma/1000...tra-promotion/
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Old 06-23-2009, 10:39 AM
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The sad fact of the matter is that COX2s are highly effective in a pre- & post-operative setting. You get non-narcotic pain relief without the bleeding issues that prevent the use of non-selective NSAIDs in these patients. In fact, a pharmacy director at a hospital that was involved in the paracoxib surgical trials (the injectable form of Bextra) intimated to me that it was dificult to keep the study blinded because the response of the paracoxib patients was so robust (and resulted in little to no post-operative morphine use).

What killed paracoxib were the inane CABG trials (attempting to answer a question that no rationale surgeon would have asked). Even in those trials, if you look at when the CV events/mortalities occured, there were actually more events on placebo as a number of the events in the paracoxib arm occured before they were administered active drug. Add to this the timing of when this information was coming out (shortly after Merck pulled Vioxx off the market, which was a huge mistake, IMHO, as it's still safer than all other non-selective NSAIDs when considering all-cause morbidity/mortality), and Bextra was doomed. Sad, because it was the best drug in the class. Yes, it didn't have the pain indication that Celebrex had, but the data was there, the FDA was just being the inefficient government bureaucracy that it is in wanting still more data (above and beyond what it took to get Celebrex the same indication).

Around this same time the Federal Government and various state Attorney's General (and the trial bar) realized that they could use labeling as a weapon with which to extort huge sums of money from Big Pharma. Those of you who think the GOP is a friend of Big Pharma might want to consider that this happened during the W administration, proving that government bureaucrats of all political stripes care far more about money than they do any of their alleged special interest groups. Just take a look at the fines that have come down the pike over the past few years, most notably the $2.3 BILLION we're forking over for basically promoting Bextra for something it was highly effective at (treating pain). Don't think Bextra worked for pain? Why do people take NSAIDs in the first place? Inflammation? No, folks, ... it's PAIN. Just don't say it out loud if it's not in your label, or the FDA will fine you millions, perhaps billions of dollars.

Unless of course you are a government provider of health care, an HMO, or a PBM, who have all seen fit over the past couple of decades of instituting off-label protocols for hundreds of meds.

Funny how that works...
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Old 06-23-2009, 01:59 PM
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Everyone at Pfizer needs to read Mary's sentencing statement. After you read it you really need to ask yourself if Pfizer is the company you want to work for. Pfizer executives clearly "served" her up to the government. Mary was a middle manager that has not worked for Pfizer for almost three years.

I can not imagine how Pfizer's Chief Compliance Officer, Jeff K, during the Bextra mess and Doug Lankler are still at Pfizer? What about the marketing, medical and sales executives???
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Old 06-23-2009, 06:38 PM
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You DUMBSHIT. It appears that a lamb was slaughtered here to cover for the shepherds being DUMBASSES and not monitoring their flock closely enough. Good shepherds don't let their sheep stray into danger.

I thank heaven that I had a boss who watched over us. We knew how far to push and WHERE TO STOP. Wasn't perfect as a person but he was a DAMN good DM and he kept our team off the rocks. It appears that not everyone had that.
Mary,
KNEW what she was DOING! C'mon. We were all told not to market Bextra off label for surgical pain. Mary got what she deserved. She never treated people well.

Her ARM Steven Ariaga, should have gone down as well. He sent e-mails to the team referencing the Brooklyn protocol for acute surgical pain with Bextra, per Mary's direction.

Steven you got lucky!
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:32 AM
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This is not the Wild,Wild,West and has not been for years. Anyone stupid enough to break the law,either on their own or at the direction of another is guilty. Use your brains. Stand up for what is right. Don't be a damn sheep led to the slaughter. Damn Pfizer people can't think or reason for themselves anymore. The blue haze has totally blocked somes good sense.
I feel bad for her but she knew it was illegal so she should do some time.
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Old 06-24-2009, 12:33 PM
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Everyone at Pfizer needs to read Mary's sentencing statement. After you read it you really need to ask yourself if Pfizer is the company you want to work for. Pfizer executives clearly "served" her up to the government. Mary was a middle manager that has not worked for Pfizer for almost three years.

I can not imagine how Pfizer's Chief Compliance Officer, Jeff K, during the Bextra mess and Doug Lankler are still at Pfizer? What about the marketing, medical and sales executives???
Circulating those protocols, and then naming them after the guy that supposedly drew it up? And now you claim that she was served up by Pfizer executives? Come on, now. Cafepharma blogs were buzzing about how dangerous that was way back in 2004 or 2005.
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Old 06-24-2009, 01:46 PM
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This is not the Wild,Wild,West and has not been for years. Anyone stupid enough to break the law,either on their own or at the direction of another is guilty. Use your brains. Stand up for what is right. Don't be a damn sheep led to the slaughter. Damn Pfizer people can't think or reason for themselves anymore. The blue haze has totally blocked somes good sense.
I feel bad for her but she knew it was illegal so she should do some time.
Your mom and I are doing some time but that is a separate subject. As for this one, YOU are full of shit! I'll bet if we put the screws to YOU and YOUR record as they have MH, we would find a shitload of imperfections. Self-righteous assholes like you don't deserve to have an opinion. Bet you loved the bonus checks when they were rolling in up there in the NE. Now you want to play the "holier than thou asshole who is perfect" role! I call bullshit on you and your kind.
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Old 06-24-2009, 02:09 PM
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She seems to be a scapegoat for the sins on upper management. Everybody knows that the top encourages and approves the off-label activities to drive sales, but then they always deny it and point to an underling. This is completely ridiculous, but it's repeated over and over again. The big guys get away and the litlte guys pay! What crap!!!!

The same thing has happened at Lilly, BMS, Pharmacia, Schering-Plough, etc., etc., etc.
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Old 06-24-2009, 05:46 PM
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Give me a break! I think every RM had their reps selling Bextra for acute pain. Remember all the onset of action data vs bextra? NO ONE was just using it for cramps! Come on! We all sold it for peri-operative pain! They asked us to report how many protocols we had!
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:52 PM
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Give me a break! I think every RM had their reps selling Bextra for acute pain. Remember all the onset of action data vs bextra? NO ONE was just using it for cramps! Come on! We all sold it for peri-operative pain! They asked us to report how many protocols we had!
Hey Skippy. don"t you think the feds already know that. get real would ya
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Old 06-24-2009, 08:53 PM
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don't forget the 20mg tab was promoted for OA AND RA. It was a way to "SAVE" money

see VA/DOD accounts
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:23 PM
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Does anyone know the story behind this?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
JUNE 18, 2009
WWW.USDOJ.GOV/USAO/MA

CONTACT: CHRISTINA DiIORIO-STERLING
PHONE: (617)748-3356
E-MAIL: USAMA.MEDIA@USDOJ.GOV


PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY MANAGER SENTENCED FOR OFF-LABEL MARKETING

BOSTON, MA - A Branchburg, NJ, woman was sentenced today for violating the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, for marketing the drug Bextra for uses and dosages that were not approved by the Food and Drug Administration.

Acting United States Attorney Michael K. Loucks; Warren T. Bamford, Special Agent in Charge of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Boston Field Division; Susan J. Waddell, Special Agent in Charge of the Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Resident Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service; Kim A. Rice, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Office of Criminal Investigations, Metro Washington Field Office, Special Prosecution Staff; Jeffrey Hughes, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, Office of Inspector General, Office of Investigations - Northeast Field Office; and Joseph Finn, Special Agent in Charge of the United States Postal Service, Office of Inspector General, Boston Field Office, announced today that MARY HOLLOWAY, age 47, of Branchburg, New Jersey, has been sentenced by United States Magistrate Judge Judith Dein to pay a $75,000 fine and twenty-four months of probation after pleading guilty to an Information charging her with distribution of a misbranded drug.

At the plea hearing, prosecutors told the Court that, had the case proceeded to trial the Government’s evidence would have proven, the following:

From approximately November 2001, through April 2005, HOLLOWAY was employed as a Regional Manager at a pharmaceutical company and was responsible for sales in her region of the drug Bextra. Bextra was a Cox-II inhibitor and had been approved in by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in November 2001 for the signs and symptoms of osteoarthritis, adult rheumatoid arthritis, at 10 mgs and primary dysmennorhea at 20 mgs, twice a day as needed. In 2001, the FDA specifically denied the request of the pharmaceutical company to approve it for acute pain, including the pain of surgery. The FDA told the pharmaceutical company that it could not approve it for these other indications because the safety in these other uses had not been established. Specifically, the FDA was concerned about the results of a study in which there was an excess of cardiovascular events in patients who had undergone coronary artery bypass graft surgery and used Bextra.

HOLLOWAY was aware of the FDA’s safety concerns, but that she nonetheless had her sales staff of approximately 100 employees sell Bextra for precisely the uses that the FDA refused to approve. For example, HOLLOWAY trained and encouraged her sales teams to promote Bextra by obtaining protocols from doctors that instructed that Bextra be used for the pain of surgery, an unapproved use, and at 20 mgs, an unapproved dose. HOLLOWAY also instructed her staff to market Bextra for use before, during and after surgery to reduce the risk of deep vein thrombosis, which is a form of life threatening blood clots, even though she knew there were no studies showing that Bextra was safe and effective for this use. Finally, HOLLOWAY encouraged her staff to make false safety claims about Bextra in order to sell the drug.

Acting United States Attorney Michael K. Loucks said, “We will continue to hold individuals responsible for their conduct in promoting pharmaceutical drugs outside of the uses for which they have been found to be safe and effective by the United States FDA. The conduct at issue here undermined the FDA’s regulatory scheme and put patients at risk for the purpose of pursing profits for the individual and the pharmaceutical company.”

Bextra was withdrawn from the market in April 2005.

The case was investigated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Health and Human Services, Special Prosecutions Staff for the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, Office of Inspector General for the Department of Veterans Affairs, the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, and the Office of Inspector General for the United States Postal Service. It was prosecuted by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Sara Miron Bloom and Susan M. Poswistilo of Loucks’ Health Care Fraud Unit.

someone just opened up a big can of worms with this thread
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:31 PM
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Attention Pfizer Retards:

I once worked here. I am much happier where I am now but still find it amusing to review the posts here. One thing is so obvious to everyone outside looking in and that is,
NONE OF YOU WILL EVER RETIRE FROM HERE. Pfizer will find a way to get rid of you once you turn 40+. They will tell you to do one thing and then hang you later for doing it. When is the last time you attended a retirement party for a Pfizer colleague? I bet that you probably never have. My guess is that this is just one less pension (ie Mary) that they have to provide. Wake up and get a clue. I can't believe how many people left here are simply retarded.
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Old 06-25-2009, 05:38 AM
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Bite me. She was given CONSTANT scrutiny and feedback that was VERY positive by her superiors! She took the fall for all of those bastards, probably including YOU! Did you enjoy spending your bonus check from those days? People like you suck! Bastards from New England are the most treacherous, lying assholes on earth.
try this one on for size. mary you can participate in this "study" and let your superiors know the results. metion mary's name to current and former employees of Pfizer. watch their faces very closely now because they will get this look on their face like they just smelled a rotten egg.
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Old 06-25-2009, 12:21 PM
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That is simply NOT true. Speak for yourself. I am a former colleague and think the world of Mary.
Right. Just call the board host and pull the thread already. We don't want this one to last for 14 months, do we?
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Old 06-25-2009, 04:12 PM
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Right. Just call the board host and pull the thread already. We don't want this one to last for 14 months, do we?
I want it to last for as long as it needs to in order to establish that MH is NOT the one who should be getting slaughtered here. Maybe YOU want it to go away???
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Old 06-25-2009, 06:19 PM
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I want it to last for as long as it needs to in order to establish that MH is NOT the one who should be getting slaughtered here. Maybe YOU want it to go away???
Wow. Your last post answers a big question we had. Please read definition below, then re-read post # 36.

SARCASM: a mode of satirical wit depending for its effect on ironic language that is directed against an individual

Let us know if you know the definition of SATIRICAL
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:39 PM
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Please it was only a misdemeanor. Pfizer will ultimately pay her fine. Least they can do since they threw her under the bus to protect their current executives.
The conviction is actually for a felony ie two years parole so she has a felony on her record and can never vote in some states or own a gun or ammo
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Old 06-25-2009, 11:32 PM
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The conviction is actually for a felony ie two years parole so she has a felony on her record and can never vote in some states or own a gun or ammo
Not a felony dickbrain. And the proper word is probation not parole!
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:23 AM
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That's funny
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:11 AM
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That's funny
Yeah, it is...if you are into low-life, low-rent, low-class humor. Your day is coming. Every sleazebag has their day.
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Old 06-27-2009, 11:39 AM
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LOL
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Old 06-27-2009, 03:59 PM
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Yeah, it is...if you are into low-life, low-rent, low-class humor. Your day is coming. Every sleazebag has their day.
THE WIZARD OF OZ HAS KNOCKED ON HER DOOR AND HUNDREDS OF PFIZER EMPLOYEES DOORS BECAUSE SHE PUT THEM AT RISK, REAL SLEAZEBAG, POOR EXAMPLE OF A LEADER! FIRST ALWAYS, ALWAYS PROTECT YOUR TROOPS! OFF LABEL SELLING NEVER GOT HER ANYWHERE BUT AT THE BOTTOM. WILL ALWAYS BE A BOTTOM DWELLER. REFER BACK TO POST #12.

GIT R' DUN. GOING BACK TO WATCH SPRINGER NOW.

HOLLOWAY was aware of the FDA’s safety concerns, but that she nonetheless had her sales staff of approximately 100 employees sell Bextra for precisely the uses that the FDA refused to approve.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:52 PM
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And since YOU KNEW so much about the culture, what did YOU do Mr. Small Dick????? Bus driver move that bus! Right? You suck.
It would be impossible to do anything being that I left in 2005 before the massacre. Knew enough to get out of this piss poor company.
Was only commenting so who is the small dick? Isn't this a board to expresss your biased opinions?
I was an Alta phr in one of the NE lats. My dm said that Jim K did want the protocols but it was more of an ok check the box good now move on thing. My powers and searle counterparts were constantly complaining at lat meetings because the powers dm robot lat mentor was telling them to work on these protocols. Searle wanted nothiong to do with it. Powers appeared to not have a choice.
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Old 06-28-2009, 02:58 PM
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old adage applies here - the truth will set you free
peace out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 06-28-2009, 10:42 PM
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Speaking of off label, what is going on with Zyvox?
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:03 PM
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I don't see what's wrong with this. Just good business.
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:17 PM
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what is a MASTER?
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:29 PM
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Please it was only a misdemeanor. Pfizer will ultimately pay her fine. Least they can do since they threw her under the bus to protect their current executives.
From what planet do you reside? NO ONE is disputing this - it's about staying within APPROVED INDICATIONS - do some research on line before you post again and you will see that is not OK and will subject companies to billions of dollars in fines - look up Neurontinl lawsuits and a host of others that will perhaps drive it home. WOW you just say whatever and have NO regard to what is being said or the reality of the situation and seriousness of the offense. It's not about patients or whether it works - It is about FDA compliance - why are you so clueless or so argumentative????
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:40 PM
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Huh?
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:42 PM
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this seems a waste of space
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Old 06-28-2009, 11:46 PM
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It's amazing how much better I feel as time goes by that I am away from this oppressive company !!! I think everyone that's still there (here) should really consider leaving - it will literally change your life for the better. I can't imagine anything other than a "GM" type outcome (or worse) for this company. It's much better to be unemployed - I will survive - I know now that I can do a lot better. Get out now while you still have your sanity !
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Old 06-29-2009, 02:44 PM
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yawn
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Old 07-08-2009, 05:37 PM
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We got your New Englander right here!
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:53 AM
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I was an Alta phr in one of the NE lats. My dm said that Jim K did want the protocols but it was more of an ok check the box good now move on thing. My powers and searle counterparts were constantly complaining at lat meetings because the powers dm robot lat mentor was telling them to work on these protocols. Searle wanted nothiong to do with it. Powers appeared to not have a choice.[/quote]

I saw the same thing in my LAT. We all felt sorry for my Powers counterparts, because they often complained that they had no choice to implement what everyone else knew were less-than-brilliant tactics.
Anyone remember those Powers Dine and Dash programs? Boy, those things ended up getting Pfizer plenty of bad publicity, but those poor Powers reps had to do them or their DMs would be all over them.
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Old 08-04-2009, 09:44 AM
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The conviction is actually for a felony ie two years parole so she has a felony on her record and can never vote in some states or own a gun or ammo
If that's true, that has got to hurt. I know her, and I can't imagine what she's going to do if she can't work in pharma. She won a few titles when she was a DM, maybe she can work for a small biotech in that role?
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:17 PM
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I am curious as to why Mary Holloway was singled out when what she was doing was done by Phizer reps across the country?
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:52 PM
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Because her DM decided to CHANGE his computers and get others to change theirs rather than tell the truth about what he and his team had been doing. The FDA did not want to be made to look like fools so they had to have a sacrificial lamb. The DM offered MH on a silver platter to save his own ass. She had a house of knives around her. People who would sell their mothers for a nickel except for a few good ones. Real shame. I really care about MH....and NO it was NOT a felony. Prove it or shut up with that crap. You won't find it anywhere.
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Old 09-15-2009, 09:16 PM
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I am curious as to why Mary Holloway was singled out when what she was doing was done by Phizer reps across the country?
OP answers your stupid question you fool. Misdemeanor not Felony for all you other jackasses!
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:07 AM
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[quote=Anonymous;3136156]Because her DM decided to CHANGE his computers and get others to change theirs rather than tell the truth about what he and his team had been doing. The FDA did not want to be made to look like fools so they had to have a sacrificial lamb. The DM offered MH on a silver platter to save his own ass.

Gee, according to you it looks like it was everyone's fault but MH's! Lets see: her New England DMs were all no-talent cut throats, her Brooklyn lackey DM and ARM threw her under the bus, Pfizer execs and the FDA made her a sacrificial lamb....holy cow, a major Big Pharma and government co- conspiracy against poor old MH! Call Michael Moore!

If MH has some free time, let's suggest that she gets an e-version of The Oz Principle, and does an 'Edit-find' for the words 'personal accountability'.
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Old 09-16-2009, 01:42 PM
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Why 'singled out' when quote-everyone was doing it? Read the DOJ's report for examples. Find us another RM that was muscling their people into going so far off label that it's hard to believe in this day and age.

Maybe other reasons also came into play here. Please answer some questions

What was her 10 year sales record compared to her regional counterparts? I think Jackie, JK and JR won Region of the Year at least a couple of times during her tenure. Where did her region finish when they were all at the top?
Who got promoted out of that region to be a DDO or RM?
How many DMs, ARMs and IHRs transferred out, got fired, or resigned from the company?
How many former DMs, ARMs or IHRs ended up in HQ in marketing or sales training?

I have a theory.....
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