lantus causes cancer

Now NN is sending this e-mail to their reps about a commercial “if you have taken Lantus and have cancer please call this lawyer.” I guess now they are recruiting for law suites and will let the patients know who to contact

Originally Posted by Anonymous

All of that is fine and dandy but it doesn't matter. Once this hits the public wire - we're f*%ked. Have you seen the population that takes our meds? I'm surprised half of them get out of the house in the morning by themselves. One mention of cancer to the general public (which I've heard will be in the wall street journal tomorrow) and the sh*t storm starts. They will be scared sh*tless about the cancer scare while they smoke their reds. You've got to remember.....60% of the population has a high school equivalent education. Do you think they will understand IGF-1 receptor affinity or the word CANCER next to our name? We're screwed.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! I have been calling on about 15 providers/day getting this information out and not one of them is concerned.

PS. People who have a high school education will not be reading the wall street journal tomorrow. They will be tuning in to Michael Jacksons funeral. We have NOTHING to worry about!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What exactly are you detailing off of? that we did a study in 2000 and 2006 showing our IGF affinity in vitro. It doesn't slam glargine - doesn't mention cancer... it just tells...O My GOD, how dare us - the truth. Its a drawing of our molecule, your molecule and NPH - with a chart Wow, you guys at sanofi are paranoid. I feel bad for you.

Oh, and thanks for mentioning that you "lifted" the piece from your dr.s office - nice morals. Are you ready for secret spy school yet? - did you secretly get it to your higher ups? We leave it behind on purpose you moron to give you enough rope to hang yourself with and believe me, the reps in my territory are doing a FINE job of that.....

Wouldn't you like to know how we're using this piece? Truly, I can't blame you for getting upset. We are all fed the corporate spin on each of our products. I'm sure you are doing a great job in your market and your probably have one of the SA CP posters here as a rep in your territory that is not confident enough to stand behind and defend their product. Good for you. I would take it all the way to the bank laughing if I were in your shoes too. I'm not that rep, though. I have a strong scientific background, 22+ years in the industry, read and understand clinical data better than most doctors so I can really talk specifically to IGF findings. (yes, I do have oncology experience in my background.) My lantus market share is over 65% and levemir is 6%. Moron? I don't think so. Just experienced, confident, and respected in my territory. I can sell Lantus off your sales piece as well as my own. It's something we all should be able to do ... even you mr. novorep.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Now NN is sending this e-mail to their reps about a commercial “if you have taken Lantus and have cancer please call this lawyer.” I guess now they are recruiting for law suites and will let the patients know who to contact

That's stupid and untrue. It's time to quit lying. It's all starting to catch up with you now. First Ketek and now Lantus. How many times do you have to kicked in the face by your management to relaize they don't give a shit about your credibility in the field or about patients? They are going to feed you half-information and tell you to go sell....right up until the point that your drug gets taken off the market. More data is coming about Lantus and its cancer risk....it's from the US...and it looks MUCH worse than what's already been published. We know it, and so does your management. What? They haven't mentioned more data to you yet? What a surprise. Have fun selling Lantus......for a few more months

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't you like to know how we're using this piece? Truly, I can't blame you for getting upset. We are all fed the corporate spin on each of our products. I'm sure you are doing a great job in your market and your probably have one of the SA CP posters here as a rep in your territory that is not confident enough to stand behind and defend their product. Good for you. I would take it all the way to the bank laughing if I were in your shoes too. I'm not that rep, though. I have a strong scientific background, 22+ years in the industry, read and understand clinical data better than most doctors so I can really talk specifically to IGF findings. (yes, I do have oncology experience in my background.) My lantus market share is over 65% and levemir is 6%. Moron? I don't think so. Just experienced, confident, and respected in my territory. I can sell Lantus off your sales piece as well as my own. It's something we all should be able to do ... even you mr. novorep.

oops. I need to make a correction. I just checked my numbers and levemir is only at 4% not the 6% I originally quoted.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

That's stupid and untrue. It's time to quit lying. It's all starting to catch up with you now. First Ketek and now Lantus. How many times do you have to kicked in the face by your management to relaize they don't give a shit about your credibility in the field or about patients? They are going to feed you half-information and tell you to go sell....right up until the point that your drug gets taken off the market. More data is coming about Lantus and its cancer risk....it's from the US...and it looks MUCH worse than what's already been published. We know it, and so does your management. What? They haven't mentioned more data to you yet? What a surprise. Have fun selling Lantus......for a few more months

The data regarding glargine has been around for a very long time, since way before it came to market with the brand name. Look in your PI for mutagenesis data folks.

There is another surprise around the corner for all of you naive S-A reps, who think that bashing Novo reps is such a fun thing to do. It's not over yet for you and your "it doesn't have a link to cancer" insulin.

By the way, there is plenty of supporting data for Novo insulins, and even Humalog, that demonstrates the low affinity for the IGF-1 receptor.

Cannot say the same for Lantus.
Can you say significantly higher affinity? Uh-oh..

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Wouldn't you like to know how we're using this piece? Truly, I can't blame you for getting upset. We are all fed the corporate spin on each of our products. I'm sure you are doing a great job in your market and your probably have one of the SA CP posters here as a rep in your territory that is not confident enough to stand behind and defend their product. Good for you. I would take it all the way to the bank laughing if I were in your shoes too. I'm not that rep, though. I have a strong scientific background, 22+ years in the industry, read and understand clinical data better than most doctors so I can really talk specifically to IGF findings. (yes, I do have oncology experience in my background.) My lantus market share is over 65% and levemir is 6%. Moron? I don't think so. Just experienced, confident, and respected in my territory. I can sell Lantus off your sales piece as well as my own. It's something we all should be able to do ... even you mr. novorep.

Well then we're even.... as a matter of fact an NP handed me one of your pieces at lunch last week and I detailed solely off of it. Good luck to you sir.... let the sales begin.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Well then we're even.... as a matter of fact an NP handed me one of your pieces at lunch last week and I detailed solely off of it. Good luck to you sir.... let the sales begin.

the sales began years ago - scoreboard lantus 88% Levebid 12%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the sales began years ago - scoreboard lantus 88% Levebid 12%

You're just as ASS!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

the sales began years ago - scoreboard lantus 88% Levebid 12%

What's the score of the Novolog-Apidra game asshole? You still haven't answered me!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

What's the score of the Novolog-Apidra game asshole? You still haven't answered me!

we are not concerned about the elementary games we are looking at the big scoreboard - lets see what does it say? oh yea 88% lantus, 12% levebid our company pisses more than your rapid acting market $$$

[roobee]

Guys (and gals), EVERYBODY LOSES!!! I sold Bextra and have seen the same crap flying back and forth between Vioxx and Bextra reps.. The point is, once the lawyer commercials begin airing, EVERYBODY LOSES!! They did the same thing with Byetta's issues a few months back -- they link Januvia with it! Honestly, we are in a shaky economy, our healthcare system is drastically changing (thank you, Mr. President) and lawyers are salivating to grab a piece of the pie. Family practice docs are baffles as to what to do at this point. Lantus is a good drug, efficacious, and has a proven track record...However, it is being targeting regardless how shitty the study may be. Physicians and patients will link it all together and freak making our and the physicians' job way harder than it needs to be. I'm a Novo rep and am concerned for MY job!!! If you think the FDA will now approve liraglitide at this point, you are smoking crack. It's a sad week for everyone -- everyone loses on this one...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we are not concerned about the elementary games we are looking at the big scoreboard - lets see what does it say? oh yea 88% lantus, 12% levebid our company pisses more than your rapid acting market $$$

I keep trying your approach. When I spoke to another one of my physicians today that is curious why his S-A rep isn't addressing the published data about the cancer risk with Lantus, I told him "scoreboard, Doctor, scoreboard." He asked me what I meant, and I told him that Lantus has a higher maket share than Levemir. His response was "Not for long...."

Originally Posted by Anonymous

we are not concerned about the elementary games we are looking at the big scoreboard - lets see what does it say? oh yea 88% lantus, 12% levebid our company pisses more than your rapid acting market $$$

In that case, let's look at the global sales for insulin.... the largest scoreboard there is.....

Now, you can shut your fucking pie-hole because no one outsells NN globally - no one. That is a fact

Scoreboard - NOVO we win YOU LOSE!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

In that case, let's look at the global sales for insulin.... the largest scoreboard there is.....

Now, you can shut your fucking pie-hole because no one outsells NN globally - no one. That is a fact

Scoreboard - NOVO we win YOU LOSE!

eh, he's right. (I apologize for our scoreboard guy -wish I knew who he is)

Originally Posted by Anonymous

eh, he's right. (I apologize for our scoreboard guy -wish I knew who he is)

i hate to break it little novo boy comparing your little insulin world to our product sales is comparing pluto to the sun. also lantus is the market leader. sorry you lose we win, scoreboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

i hate to break it little novo boy comparing your little insulin world to our product sales is comparing pluto to the sun. also lantus is the market leader. sorry you lose we win, scoreboard

Again, comparing a planet to a ball of gas... perfect! just like your studies - always compare two different things.
Novolog is the market leader for rapid.
Novolog Mix is the leader for mix.
Yep you have the lion's share for basal... but that makes it 2 out of 3 categories - We win. Plus, total sales in insulin world wide- uh, we win again.

WE WIN YOU LOSE - go f&ck your scoreboard you dick.

I'm not playing this game any longer. - We win - you lose and I will not come back to this web site.... so I'm getting the last word - I WIN YOU LOSE and you are a dick and have to live with the fact that no one loves you. GOOD BYE!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Again, comparing a planet to a ball of gas... perfect! just like your studies - always compare two different things.
Novolog is the market leader for rapid.
Novolog Mix is the leader for mix.
Yep you have the lion's share for basal... but that makes it 2 out of 3 categories - We win. Plus, total sales in insulin world wide- uh, we win again.

WE WIN YOU LOSE - go f&ck your scoreboard you dick.

I'm not playing this game any longer. - We win - you lose and I will not come back to this web site.... so I'm getting the last word - I WIN YOU LOSE and you are a dick and have to live with the fact that no one loves you. GOOD BYE!!

so little novo boy cant handle the truth - the truth is lantus 88%, levebid 12% - little novo boy cant hang, and little novo boy does what novo does best - spin

You dumb ass! Why do you think Novo sold you the compound?

I'll give you the answer (you seem a little thick):
NNI was afraid of the CANCER RISK.

A number of endos have already said they're going to Levemir for their new starts and they are switching Lantus patients over 50u to Levemir. This could be fun... Oh -- and when they switch these patients, they haven't said anything about being concerned about BID dosing or that they'll have to use more.

The only concern they have is that Lantus may cause cancer...

Originally Posted by Anonymous

You dumb ass! Why do you think Novo sold you the compound?

I'll give you the answer (you seem a little thick):
NNI was afraid of the CANCER RISK.

A number of endos have already said they're going to Levemir for their new starts and they are switching Lantus patients over 50u to Levemir. This could be fun... Oh -- and when they switch these patients, they haven't said anything about being concerned about BID dosing or that they'll have to use more.

The only concern they have is that Lantus may cause cancer...

little novo boy still doesnt understand, lantus is safe and look at scorebaord

Originally Posted by Anonymous

little novo boy still doesnt understand, lantus is safe and look at scorebaord

OOOoooooohhhhh...Lantus is SAFE. OK. I must have misread the 4 studies that cited a possible link between Lantus and Cancer. My bad. But now that you've posted on CafePharma that Lantus is safe, I guess I better believe it.

I'll add that to my repetoire in my doc's office on Monday. When he tells me he's concerned about the potential link between Lantus and cancer and he still wonders why S-A is ducking the issue, I'll first tell him "Scoreboard, doctor, scoreboard." After that I'll say, "Studies be stupid, doc. CafePharma say Lantus is SAFE!"

Nice argument, chump.


I've looked at the scoreboard....time's running out on Lantus.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

OOOoooooohhhhh...Lantus is SAFE. OK. I must have misread the 4 studies that cited a possible link between Lantus and Cancer. My bad. But now that you've posted on CafePharma that Lantus is safe, I guess I better believe it.

I'll add that to my repetoire in my doc's office on Monday. When he tells me he's concerned about the potential link between Lantus and cancer and he still wonders why S-A is ducking the issue, I'll first tell him "Scoreboard, doctor, scoreboard." After that I'll say, "Studies be stupid, doc. CafePharma say Lantus is SAFE!"

Nice argument, chump.


I've looked at the scoreboard....time's running out on Lantus.

LOOK AGAIN AT THE SCOREBOARD LITTLE NOVO BOY - and while you are at it can you honestly define a "study" - you make my argument so easy you are simply the typical uninformed novo boy that needs to look up, yes look up and realize scoreboard baby scoreboard - lantus 88% levebid 12% - just facts not spin

I think Novo-boy has been choking his chicken a little too long on all this. I talked to many high target docs in my territory last week. I was very upfront with the data. NOBODY, I repeat NOBODY was concerned or planned to make Rx changes. I've been hearing pretty much the same around the district.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

LOOK AGAIN AT THE SCOREBOARD LITTLE NOVO BOY - and while you are at it can you honestly define a "study" - you make my argument so easy you are simply the typical uninformed novo boy that needs to look up, yes look up and realize scoreboard baby scoreboard - lantus 88% levebid 12% - just facts not spin

Published in a peer reviewed journal. Go ahead and try to attack an observational study or restrospective analysis or whatever you want. It'll show your docs how desperate you are. The data was published...that's enough to be more reputable than YOU.

Take a picture of your scoreboard while you still can. This is the last time it will look this way.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I think Novo-boy has been choking his chicken a little too long on all this. I talked to many high target docs in my territory last week. I was very upfront with the data. NOBODY, I repeat NOBODY was concerned or planned to make Rx changes. I've been hearing pretty much the same around the district.

Then they're lying to your face. Keep believing it's all going to be OK. I'm sure your doctors are excited about the prospect of their patients developing cancer as a result of taking Lantus.

Thanks for making my job so easy.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they're lying to your face. Keep believing it's all going to be OK. I'm sure your doctors are excited about the prospect of their patients developing cancer as a result of taking Lantus.

Thanks for making my job so easy.

scoreboard guy here - job easy? sell a product that is the scoreboard leader - now that is easy - lantus wins, levebid loses - scoreboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Then they're lying to your face. Keep believing it's all going to be OK. I'm sure your doctors are excited about the prospect of their patients developing cancer as a result of taking Lantus.

Thanks for making my job so easy.

I've been in this territory for twenty years. I think I know my docs better than you, chump. Some of them are already pissed the Novo reps are making a big deal over it. Keep it up. You'll make my job easier.

Your "docs" know you're a moron and feel really bad for you. Another sad sack career drug-rep in a bad suit with hypertension. Do the world a favor and kill yourself. Seriously.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

I've been in this territory for twenty years. I think I know my docs better than you, chump. Some of them are already pissed the Novo reps are making a big deal over it. Keep it up. You'll make my job easier.

SA rep here. I have already heard switches happen.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

scoreboard guy here - job easy? sell a product that is the scoreboard leader - now that is easy - lantus wins, levebid loses - scoreboard

Keep your eye on the scoreboard, sweetie!

Selling against a drug that causes CANCER--now, THAT's gonna be easy. Snap a picture of the scoreboard while you still can!!!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Keep your eye on the scoreboard, sweetie!

Selling against a drug that causes CANCER--now, THAT's gonna be easy. Snap a picture of the scoreboard while you still can!!!

little novo boy knows deep down lantus is better than levebid so little novo boy tries to spin 1/2 truths little novo boy needs to look at scoreboard and realize the facts

Originally Posted by Anonymous

So let's see, Levemir has more consistent absorption, less hypoglycemia, less weight gain and oh yeah, less CANCER. Seems like a great time to be at Novo...

Before you go throwing stones you'd better look at the other side of this picture...all insulin (yes all) is a growth factor...when you give insulin you bathe the cells in a larger concentration of insulin than would normally be there without diabetes...when tumor cells are present they will be bathed in a growth factor the same as normal cells but they will grow abnormally fast...maybe faster still...the issue may not be cause cancer but stimulate cancer cells to grow even faster! Also the link with pulmonary fibrosis and insulin may be the same issue...All the insulins and particularly basils may have the same yoke..so be careful with your chunking!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

little novo boy knows deep down lantus is better than levebid so little novo boy tries to spin 1/2 truths little novo boy needs to look at scoreboard and realize the facts

THE FACTS:

My bonus last quarter: $13K
Your bonus last quarter: $8K

SCOREBOARD!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before you go throwing stones you'd better look at the other side of this picture...all insulin (yes all) is a growth factor...when you give insulin you bathe the cells in a larger concentration of insulin than would normally be there without diabetes...when tumor cells are present they will be bathed in a growth factor the same as normal cells but they will grow abnormally fast...maybe faster still...the issue may not be cause cancer but stimulate cancer cells to grow even faster! Also the link with pulmonary fibrosis and insulin may be the same issue...All the insulins and particularly basils may have the same yoke..so be careful with your chunking!

Ahhhhhhh...the class effect argument. This is simply admitting that your drug increases the risk for cancer and hoping the others do too. Unfortunately, you're wrong. Look at IGF-1 receptor affinity if your concerned about tumor cells growing abnormally fast. This is NOT a class effect--I'll know you'll try to drag all insulin down with you, but this is a LANTUS issue. Not a single other insulin has an IGF-1 receptor affinity anywhere close to Lantus'. Nice try...at least you'll go down swinging.

My bonus: $13K
Yours: $8K

Scoreboard!

Before we go bashing the "Studies" that were quoted in the EASD article, could we please understand what they are. They aren't studies, they are composed of data collected from an insured patient base. The patients were't studied, they were diagnosed. Patients using Lantus demonstrated more cancer presentations than those taking human insulin. The German study had over 127K patients using either Human or Lantus insulin.
This data is the purest form of non-biased data you can get. You have patients using Lantus going to there Provider with symptoms, and being diagnosed with cancer. Did the Lantus cause the cancer..?? That's the question. If it were Novolog, Humalog or Levemir, you would be screaming at the top of your lungs it was a causal realationship. Since it's your drug, it's garbage. Similar to your "When is a unit not a unit" garbage.

Let me give you a scenerio, your child is at daycare or school. Several of the children at the daycare/school contract pertusis (whooping cough). Did the kids come into contact with whooping at the school or from an outside source. Not sure, but I'd sure as hell keep my kid home until I found out what the situation is. Wouldn't you? Maybe Lantus didn't have anything to do with the increased rates of Cancer, but maybe it did. Don't you think a HCP will pause before writing Lantus as often?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Hey Genius. Lantus is out 7 years, Docs love it, there's no direct competition, then a new basal comes out. No shit you are experiencing growth. We are too, still. You have done a good job growing the market, but we still gow our brand. Its easier to be in your shoes with all to gain. You are still getting beat by NPH and reg. premix. Good day and good selling.

We may be getting beat, but we are making great bonuses doing it. You know the last time I checked, what was most important to me was providing for my family. How much bonus are you making with Lantus and whatever the name of your rapid acting insulin is?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

We may be getting beat, but we are making great bonuses doing it. You know the last time I checked, what was most important to me was providing for my family. How much bonus are you making with Lantus and whatever the name of your rapid acting insulin is?

it doent matter what you think - just look at the scoreboard lantus 88% levemir 12%

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Before we go bashing the "Studies" that were quoted in the EASD article, could we please understand what they are. They aren't studies, they are composed of data collected from an insured patient base. The patients were't studied, they were diagnosed. Patients using Lantus demonstrated more cancer presentations than those taking human insulin. The German study had over 127K patients using either Human or Lantus insulin.
This data is the purest form of non-biased data you can get. You have patients using Lantus going to there Provider with symptoms, and being diagnosed with cancer. Did the Lantus cause the cancer..?? That's the question. If it were Novolog, Humalog or Levemir, you would be screaming at the top of your lungs it was a causal realationship. Since it's your drug, it's garbage. Similar to your "When is a unit not a unit" garbage.

Let me give you a scenerio, your child is at daycare or school. Several of the children at the daycare/school contract pertusis (whooping cough). Did the kids come into contact with whooping at the school or from an outside source. Not sure, but I'd sure as hell keep my kid home until I found out what the situation is. Wouldn't you? Maybe Lantus didn't have anything to do with the increased rates of Cancer, but maybe it did. Don't you think a HCP will pause before writing Lantus as often?

ooohh little novo boy what are we gonna do with you PLEASE JUST LOOK AT THE SCOREBOARD - LANTUS 88% LEVEBID 12%. JUST THE FACTS PLEASE

Originally Posted by Anonymous

ooohh little novo boy what are we gonna do with you PLEASE JUST LOOK AT THE SCOREBOARD - LANTUS 88% LEVEBID 12%. JUST THE FACTS PLEASE

I just looked at the FACTS.

My bonus: $13K
Your bonus: $8K

Scoreboard, fuckface, scoreboard.

Just so all you dimwits know, that IGF receptor crap is a bunch of nonsense. A human can't take enough Lantus, or any other insulin, to activate the receptor. The doctors and pharmacists all understand this because it is common with many other drugs and many other receptor site. But keep talking about it so your customers can really understand how stupid you really are. Anybody with a science background would understand this. Oh, by the way, the patients in the Lantus arms were older than the patients in the NPH arms. Get it? Older = more cancer. Should I say that slower so you can understand?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so all you dimwits know, that IGF receptor crap is a bunch of nonsense. A human can't take enough Lantus, or any other insulin, to activate the receptor. The doctors and pharmacists all understand this because it is common with many other drugs and many other receptor site. But keep talking about it so your customers can really understand how stupid you really are. Anybody with a science background would understand this. Oh, by the way, the patients in the Lantus arms were older than the patients in the NPH arms. Get it? Older = more cancer. Should I say that slower so you can understand?

Ahhhhhhhh sign here

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Just so all you dimwits know, that IGF receptor crap is a bunch of nonsense. A human can't take enough Lantus, or any other insulin, to activate the receptor. The doctors and pharmacists all understand this because it is common with many other drugs and many other receptor site. But keep talking about it so your customers can really understand how stupid you really are. Anybody with a science background would understand this. Oh, by the way, the patients in the Lantus arms were older than the patients in the NPH arms. Get it? Older = more cancer. Should I say that slower so you can understand?

Except in type 2 patients that produce their own endogenous insulin. That endogenous insulin will take priority at the insulin receptor site….. leaving an injected insulin circulating in the body. If it is not grabbed by the insulin receptors, where do you think it will go? Ding Ding Ding – the IGF receptor. Especially when the IGF afinity invitro for Lantus is over 600% This data has been published already – in 2000. I’m sorry to tell you but it does matter.

In the primary care or family care world, you may be right… it’s not a big deal yet. Ask an endo and you’ll get another story. Two of my pede endo CLINICS (not individual doctors) have started switching ALL kids off of Lantus for now… until the results are final.

Other endos have said – New starts will be put on Levemir until the water is clear. We did this without bashing your insulin. This is the 3rd go-around since 1999 about IGF’s link to cancer. I honestly believe that because this has made it’s way into the lime light AGAIN… Dr’s are a little more concerned and want to avoid a POTENTIAL risk. I was on Lantus for years,it works..... I’d rather go with a lower IGF until the jury returns, so will most doctors and so will most patients. Why would you risk a potential link to or chance of excelerating cancer?

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Except in type 2 patients that produce their own endogenous insulin. That endogenous insulin will take priority at the insulin receptor site….. leaving an injected insulin circulating in the body. If it is not grabbed by the insulin receptors, where do you think it will go? Ding Ding Ding – the IGF receptor. Especially when the IGF afinity invitro for Lantus is over 600% This data has been published already – in 2000. I’m sorry to tell you but it does matter.

In the primary care or family care world, you may be right… it’s not a big deal yet. Ask an endo and you’ll get another story. Two of my pede endo CLINICS (not individual doctors) have started switching ALL kids off of Lantus for now… until the results are final.

Other endos have said – New starts will be put on Levemir until the water is clear. We did this without bashing your insulin. This is the 3rd go-around since 1999 about IGF’s link to cancer. I honestly believe that because this has made it’s way into the lime light AGAIN… Dr’s are a little more concerned and want to avoid a POTENTIAL risk. I was on Lantus for years,it works..... I’d rather go with a lower IGF until the jury returns, so will most doctors and so will most patients. Why would you risk a potential link to or chance of excelerating cancer?

your problem my little novo boy is that you are living in a dream world - please glance over your shoulder and read the scoreboard - lantus 90% levebid 10%. a hint just because you think something or perceive something doesnt make it reality.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your problem my little novo boy is that you are living in a dream world - please glance over your shoulder and read the scoreboard - lantus 90% levebid 10%. a hint just because you think something or perceive something doesnt make it reality.

um it's 14% for us. If you are going to be an annoying dick, at least be accurate.

My bonus was accurate at a little over 15k last quarter
How was your 8 k bonus? Scoreboard dickweed -
Next quarter your bonus will be 7k then 6, then 5, then 4, then 3, then 2, then the rope tightens and you have to explain to mommy that you can't afford to pay for her sex change.
I keep the score in my wallet -
Your market share means nothing to what hits my bank account you jizz guzzler.
I piss on your scoreboard.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

your problem my little novo boy is that you are living in a dream world - please glance over your shoulder and read the scoreboard - lantus 90% levebid 10%. a hint just because you think something or perceive something doesnt make it reality.

Nice come back with no reference at all to the previous post. Remember this one from 4th grade...

I'm rubber and you're a fucking idiot.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Nice come back with no reference at all to the previous post. Remember this one from 4th grade...

I'm rubber and you're a fucking idiot.

thats the gayest thing i've ever heard. all of you fags are so gay

Originally Posted by Anonymous

thats the gayest thing i've ever heard. all of you fags are so gay

Sounds like you want to suck a cock and are afraid to admit it.

Originally Posted by Anonymous

Sounds like you want to suck a cock and are afraid to admit it.

uh scoreboard guy here - please no cussing on the internet. no need for it. settle down and realize the truth lantus has won, will continue to win and you my friend take a look at the scoreboard

Originally Posted by Anonymous

uh scoreboard guy here - please no cussing on the internet. no need for it. settle down and realize the truth lantus has won, will continue to win and you my friend take a look at the scoreboard

I just looked at the scoreboard.

My bonus: $13K
Yous: $8K

The scoreboard looks great!

Originally Posted by Anonymous

uh scoreboard guy here - please no cussing on the internet. no need for it. settle down and realize the truth lantus has won, will continue to win and you my friend take a look at the scoreboard

I just looked at the scoreboard.

My bonus: $13K
Yours: $8K

The scoreboard looks great!