Break In to Pharmaceutical Sales
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08-25-2009, 06:15 PM
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MORE LAYOFFS COMING
IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH THIS CUT YOU ARE NOT HOME FREE. OUR TWO BIG DRUGS GOING GENERIC IN 2010=MAJOR LOSS OF SALES=MORE LAYOFFS
WAKE UP--THIS IS A DYING INDUSTRY
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08-25-2009, 06:22 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH THIS CUT YOU ARE NOT HOME FREE. OUR TWO BIG DRUGS GOING GENERIC IN 2010=MAJOR LOSS OF SALES=MORE LAYOFFS
WAKE UP--THIS IS A DYING INDUSTRY
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This is why they did THIS layoff, you stupid twat! If there gonna go through this, they might as well do it all at once. Save them the money, energy, and resources!
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08-25-2009, 06:30 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
This is why they did THIS layoff, you stupid twat! If there gonna go through this, they might as well do it all at once. Save them the money, energy, and resources!
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That person is right but for the wrong reasons. They are not doing this is all at once. Its kinda like a volcano its just getting started before the big eruption. if you think you are safe going forward you will rethink this about the middle of next year. They gotta pay for those CSC's. They go to ordering samples on line
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08-25-2009, 06:33 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
IF YOU MADE IT THROUGH THIS CUT YOU ARE NOT HOME FREE. OUR TWO BIG DRUGS GOING GENERIC IN 2010=MAJOR LOSS OF SALES=MORE LAYOFFS
WAKE UP--THIS IS A DYING INDUSTRY
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It is not a dying industry unless Obama kills it. He and his comrades would like to see that happen.
People need and will continue to need drugs. BI has had some setbacks in getting new indications for old products, but the pipeline is good.
The reason for cuts is not unique to BI. All pharma companies are downsizing their sales forces. The real reason is that the R & F model that drove pharma to hire massive sales forces is and has been obsolete. Your comment might have been more accurate if you had said that giant pharma sales and marketing divisions are dying.
Many good people have and will lose their jobs in pharma because of leadership (Corp. Lemmings) that refused to back away of 70's and 80's reach and frequency models that are obsolete and have no place in the era of managed care medicine. What a shame.
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08-25-2009, 06:40 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Word is that more cuts will likely occur within the next 10 months. These layoff rumors are rarely wrong. It's a dying career...
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08-25-2009, 06:43 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Word is that more cuts will likely occur within the next 10 months. These layoff rumors are rarely wrong. It's a dying career...
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Word is from who?? Check your email.
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08-25-2009, 06:52 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Yes, it is true. More layoffs in 2010. Do not rest on your laurels, and think you are safe. BI could have laid off 50% or more today.
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08-25-2009, 08:51 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Yes, it's true; the above person has no idea what the hell is up. You need to go back and rethink your strategic management course. No company worth it's longevity will base this round of cuts as a means of getting them through 2010 next year. That's f--ing ridiculous. These cuts are to scale back for a few years. I can't say that there will be no cuts in the future, only that there will be no cuts in the NEAR future. Stop trying to get everyone's panties in a bind and go mess with the Merkette's board.
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08-25-2009, 09:17 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
The OP is right in that more layoffs are coming, but you need to wake up dude. OF COURSE more layoffs are coming. It's a sales organization. You're never home free.
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08-25-2009, 10:14 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
yes mam; there are more lay offs coming...you wait and see...baby!
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08-25-2009, 10:15 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Home office sales support and managed care are next. That is confirmed.
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08-26-2009, 12:07 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Yes, it's true; the above person has no idea what the hell is up. You need to go back and rethink your strategic management course. No company worth it's longevity will base this round of cuts as a means of getting them through 2010 next year. That's f--ing ridiculous. These cuts are to scale back for a few years. I can't say that there will be no cuts in the future, only that there will be no cuts in the NEAR future. Stop trying to get everyone's panties in a bind and go mess with the Merkette's board.
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Speaking of Merck:
Merck's 2008 layoffs came in two waves. In MAY, the drugmaker cut about 15 percent of its sales positions, or 1,200 jobs. Merck cited the rejection of Cordaptive and lingering Vytorin woes, which contributed to significantly lower sales of the blockbuster drug. In addition, the company says that it completed the launch of eight meds and vaccines since 2006, and needed to scale back the forces for those products.
A second, much bigger wave came in OCTOBER. Following the announcement of a 28 percent drop in Q3 earnings, Merck said it would cut 7,200 jobs--more than 12 percent of its workforce--as part of a broader company-wide restructuring plan. Third-quarter revenue was down 2 percent, partly due to sluggish sales for most of its vaccines, major generic competition for Fosamax and a drop in its cholesterol drug sales of about 15 percent to $1.1 billion.
The job cuts included 6,800 employees and 400 vacant positions in all areas of the company. Forty percent of the cuts are in the U.S. and 25 percent will be senior and mid-level execs. The layoffs are scheduled to be completed by 2011. Merck expects restructuring costs from $1.6 billion to $2 billion through 2010, but hopes to save between $3.8 billion and $4.2 billion by 2013
Read more: http://www.fiercepharma.com/special-...#ixzz0PG5fjsPH
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08-26-2009, 12:16 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Home office sales support and managed care are next. That is confirmed.
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They need to clean house in the home office-MC, PF, BJ, TS, SS, RL-everyone in upper management needs to GO!!!!
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08-26-2009, 12:18 AM
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While I agree that if something else goes wrong, there could be more layoffs, I think this one really is it. Merck laid off twice because they only did 12-15%, while we just did 30%. I think we can calm down - unless something bad happens at the FDA.
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08-26-2009, 12:19 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
They need to clean house in the home office-MC, PF, BJ, TS, SS, RL-everyone in upper management needs to GO!!!!
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Their time will come.
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08-26-2009, 12:30 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
While I agree that if something else goes wrong, there could be more layoffs, I think this one really is it. Merck laid off twice because they only did 12-15%, while we just did 30%. I think we can calm down - unless something bad happens at the FDA.
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I'm still nervous. We did 30% of sales, no mention of cuts company wide yet. If there is a significant chunk cut in the overall BI workforce as part of this roll, I will relax. If not, I can't help being on edge. We have a lot of bloat, and very expensive areas that could be outsourced to cut costs, but haven't been yet. I don't mean sales, I mean R&D.
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08-26-2009, 12:38 AM
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There will be no layoffs upper management just said so 2 days ago...oh wait they said same thing 4, yes only 4, months ago and now 30% of our sales force is gone!!! Things will treuly be awful when Diovan goes generic and if Pradaxa doesnt come through, but hey welcome to RETAIL SALES people
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08-26-2009, 12:45 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
hope all you retained reps who are totally worthless, lazy bull shitters can sleep well tonight.
your time will come! YOU ARE NOT SAFE.....hello generic cozaar.....not to mention the "me too" 3rd in class twinsta...what a joke....
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08-26-2009, 12:51 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
how did HIV drug reps do?
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08-26-2009, 12:59 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
how did HIV drug reps do?
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They weren't involved at all in the layoff. Only PC, Specialty and their DMs and RDs.
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08-26-2009, 06:25 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
I'm still nervous. We did 30% of sales, no mention of cuts company wide yet. If there is a significant chunk cut in the overall BI workforce as part of this roll, I will relax. If not, I can't help being on edge. We have a lot of bloat, and very expensive areas that could be outsourced to cut costs, but haven't been yet. I don't mean sales, I mean R&D.
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you need to update your current events.
R&D got canned a while ago and help desk is all outsourced now.
Plenty of cutbacks in home office. Stick to worrying about what goes on in the field.
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08-26-2009, 10:48 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
you need to update your current events.
R&D got canned a while ago and help desk is all outsourced now.
Plenty of cutbacks in home office. Stick to worrying about what goes on in the field.
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The "future" reps at BI will be CSC reps and "Job-Share" reps!!!
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08-26-2009, 02:36 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
hope all you retained reps who are totally worthless, lazy bull shitters can sleep well tonight.
your time will come! YOU ARE NOT SAFE.....hello generic cozaar.....not to mention the "me too" 3rd in class twinsta...what a joke....
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If the products were so bad, why did you wait around until you were shown the door? Oh, I get it! You were mumbling to yourself!
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08-29-2009, 11:25 AM
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If you are so great you will have no problem getting another job.
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08-31-2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
NOOOOOOOOO PROBLEM
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09-02-2009, 06:26 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
3 offers on the table
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09-02-2009, 06:41 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
you need to update your current events.
R&D got canned a while ago and help desk is all outsourced now.
Plenty of cutbacks in home office. Stick to worrying about what goes on in the field.
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So 20 scientists shown the door a year ago and a few dozen at IT outsourced. Is that it? Marketing, HR, training etc.., Surely we won't need as much support staff since they lopped off 30% of the sales force.
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09-02-2009, 06:46 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
So 20 scientists shown the door a year ago and a few dozen at IT outsourced. Is that it? Marketing, HR, training etc.., Surely we won't need as much support staff since they lopped off 30% of the sales force.
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Good point, actually.
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09-02-2009, 06:50 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
3 offers on the table
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Yea, you might want to think about putting the crack pipe down... Unless your three offers are for Taco Bell, McDonalds and BK!
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09-02-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Training Department is over staffed. I worked there for 8 years and left for another company in the industry. They could cut 1/2 the staff and be at the right levels.
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09-02-2009, 07:58 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Training and marketing are next, then MC.
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09-02-2009, 08:06 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
Training and marketing are next, then MC.
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OOOOH! The sky is falling, we're all going to die. Do yor best every day to assure you are not expendable you weak minded ninnies.
Dr. Smith
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09-02-2009, 08:52 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Not expendable? Like JA who led his region to 9 president's clubs wins? Everyone is expendable, little duckling.
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09-03-2009, 07:07 AM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
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Originally Posted by Anonymous
OOOOH! The sky is falling, we're all going to die. Do yor best every day to assure you are not expendable you weak minded ninnies.
Dr. Smith
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You bubble-headed booby! You realize what you've done?
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09-08-2009, 09:54 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Layoffs are not the end of the world just don't be so quick to burn bridges; not even one.
Loss of blood from the human body is no big deal but if you fail to treat properly, you could lose more. So preserve what you have even if you think you can live fine without it, him or her.
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09-23-2009, 02:07 PM
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Re: MORE LAYOFFS COMING
Yeah, theses layoffs are really getting bad. If you think oh we are fine, look at www.dailyjobcuts.com .... you will see the layoffs are still around and we are in big trouble. Time to wake up people
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