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Old 12-12-2009, 08:17 AM
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Default How does eCardio get away with it?

Although its not pervasive in my geography (yet), an account asked me "why can't we bill daily for your telemetry device?.....We are going to try eCardio and see if we can bill daily and get paid for it." Senseless. These are some fairly bright accounts that should know better. I would be interested in knowing what logic and CPT-4 codes eCardio is advising for Daily billing. Most of my accounts that are trying eCardio are not the most ethical BUT there are a few accounts I am concerned about, that are getting brainwashed by the billing info of eCardio. I would hate to see them go through a medicare fraud process. Running a practice is tough enough without 'that' keeping you up all night. Any info out there on HOW eCardio is getting away with this?
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:09 AM
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They get away with it by flying under the radar with many insurance companies. They do not have ANY contracts. They just try to say that they fit the 2 day code but to bill it for 30 days. Several won't pay including United, Aetna, Humana, Healthnet and a few Medicare providers.
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Old 12-12-2009, 07:13 PM
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who ever is writing these strings knows nothing about eCardio and the contracts they have. Yes..eCardio has many payor contracts. Don't listen to those who know nothing and have only critical things to say about things they know nothing about. If you want to know more about eCardio, please pick up the phone and call...ask for Robert Jordan. He will be happy to talk with you. Now, do you have the guts to call! or do you wish to keep spewing your vile crap over and over. BTW..eCardio is not getting away with anything. They are the most professional cardiac monitoring company in America.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: How does eCardio get away with it?

How did it go with your own medicare provider? Many offices have been billed back due to your "contracts".

The purpose of this article is to provide guidance on the appropriate use of CPT Codes 93224-93227, 93230-93233, and 93235–93237. NAS has recently noted that some providers have been advised to use CPT Code 93236 and CPT 93237 to bill on a daily basis for multiple days of monitoring and interpretation (e.g., 14 or 21 days). This is an incorrect usage of these codes or of other 24 hour cardiac event monitoring codes.
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:51 PM
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Really??? Is that why CIGNA dropped coverage? Stop spewing your lies and tell the truth. eCardio is NOT an ethical company. That is why they treat their reps like crap.
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Old 12-12-2009, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: How does eCardio get away with it?

And another... how many do you want? Name ONE contract.

TrailBlazer has become aware of problematic reporting of CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237. These codes are being used by providers in TrailBlazer’s jurisdiction to report long-term cardiac monitoring, sometimes in excess of 30 consecutive days. While these CPT codes are appropriate to use in billing for cardiac monitoring for up to 24 hours (patient is using a wearable device), they are not appropriate to use in billing for long-term monitoring. Additionally, CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237 are subject to the provisions of the “Holter Monitoring – 4C-48AB” Local Coverage Determination, which states the following:

“Holter monitoring is generally not medically necessary more frequently than once every 180 days except to ascertain a response to a change in treatment based on a Holter monitor recording. Therefore, no more than three monitoring studies will be allowed without review of medical records that demonstrate medical necessity (i.e., redetermination, previously known as appeal).”
Long-term cardiac monitoring should be reported using CPT codes 93228 and 93229, or 93268, 93270, 93271 and 93272 when a wearable monitoring device meeting the capabilities described by those codes is utilized. These codes are reported once per 30 days of monitoring. Long-term cardiac monitoring using a wearable monitoring device not meeting the capabilities described by CPT codes 93228, 93229, 93268, 93270, 93271 or 93272 must be billed using CPT code 93799.
Even when coding advice is received from device manufacturers, providers of health care services are responsible for their correct use of CPT codes when billing services to Medicare. As evidenced by the recent settlement of a Boston-based neurologic testing device manufacturer with the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Inspector General over alleged illegal kickbacks and sales and marketing improprieties, the federal government takes such activities seriously and will punish individuals and entities who engage in them.
Physicians and other Medicare providers who have received inappropriate payments for long-term cardiac monitoring are encouraged to return those monies to Medicare. Instructions for making voluntary refunds to TrailBlazer are available on our Web site.
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Old 12-13-2009, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: How does eCardio get away with it?

Please name one contract, not just "we fit the code". Remember, it is a 2 day code. What insurance company contracted saying you can bill more than 2 days? LW and CN had approvals from several and was specifically stated in medical policies.

Name one with ecardio. Just one.
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:03 PM
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And another... how many do you want? Name ONE contract.

TrailBlazer has become aware of problematic reporting of CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237. These codes are being used by providers in TrailBlazer’s jurisdiction to report long-term cardiac monitoring, sometimes in excess of 30 consecutive days. While these CPT codes are appropriate to use in billing for cardiac monitoring for up to 24 hours (patient is using a wearable device), they are not appropriate to use in billing for long-term monitoring. Additionally, CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237 are subject to the provisions of the “Holter Monitoring – 4C-48AB” Local Coverage Determination, which states the following:

“Holter monitoring is generally not medically necessary more frequently than once every 180 days except to ascertain a response to a change in treatment based on a Holter monitor recording. Therefore, no more than three monitoring studies will be allowed without review of medical records that demonstrate medical necessity (i.e., redetermination, previously known as appeal).”
Long-term cardiac monitoring should be reported using CPT codes 93228 and 93229, or 93268, 93270, 93271 and 93272 when a wearable monitoring device meeting the capabilities described by those codes is utilized. These codes are reported once per 30 days of monitoring. Long-term cardiac monitoring using a wearable monitoring device not meeting the capabilities described by CPT codes 93228, 93229, 93268, 93270, 93271 or 93272 must be billed using CPT code 93799.
Even when coding advice is received from device manufacturers, providers of health care services are responsible for their correct use of CPT codes when billing services to Medicare. As evidenced by the recent settlement of a Boston-based neurologic testing device manufacturer with the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Inspector General over alleged illegal kickbacks and sales and marketing improprieties, the federal government takes such activities seriously and will punish individuals and entities who engage in them.
Physicians and other Medicare providers who have received inappropriate payments for long-term cardiac monitoring are encouraged to return those monies to Medicare. Instructions for making voluntary refunds to TrailBlazer are available on our Web site.
who is the Boston-based neurologic testing device manufacturer?
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:51 PM
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As a competitor in this space I have to say that they are "getting away with it" because they can. They realize that their device offers no advantage over a traditional auto trigger other than it will call in the transmission. It is just a Braemar 900 series monitor. They know and have known all these years ( dating back to LL's involvement with Health Monitoring Services ) that the hot button is money. Accounts, even the best of them, will pay attention to a rep who drives home the daily billing feature and what it means to the account in terms of revenue. Most often this info comes from a device rep working on an indy basis who has amassed some level of trust and standing with the groups, they ( the groups ) assume blindly that this info is factual and run with it. You must drive home with all the documentation (trail blazer and the cardiology coders pink sheets ) and common sense ( that is: they really make more for this eVolution than for putting in a dual chamber of doing a cath? ) Logic and documentation do win out in the end you must be persistent in your conslutation. My fear is they eventually turn ligit and use that with the captial they have raised and their relationship with manufacturing to build on the solid things they do, then they will be a real threat.

We all know what they are doing is wrong they know too. You will hang your hat on the only rack available. If their device "fits" the code then we would all go out buy the same device or the Vitaphone device and be "selling" the same way.
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Old 12-14-2009, 11:44 AM
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who is the Boston-based neurologic testing device manufacturer?
Neurometrix?
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Old 12-23-2009, 06:32 PM
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Ok, I am looking at the infamous matrix, published by eCardio that says for Extended Monitoring eCardio bills......93236 (which is a HOLTER CODE!)....Bill for each day patient is monitored"

Physician bills... (NO HOOK UP code, we knew that (but).....93237 "Professional Interpretation: Bill for each day patient is monitored"...say what??????

I can't believe they leave this stuff behind. So why isn't eCardio in Medicare Fraud jail along with all the cardiology practices they've sucked into their lying web??
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Old 12-24-2009, 12:08 AM
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Good attorneys? Who can figure that out. Maybe CMS has bigger fish to fry. It's pathetic how they conduct their business. I find that most accounts eventually figure out what they are doing is wrong and come back to reality. The principals in this company had the same M-O when they had Health Monitoring Services. They eventually had to pack up and move to TX. It will come to an end.
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Old 02-19-2010, 08:47 AM
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who ever is writing these strings knows nothing about eCardio and the contracts they have. Yes..eCardio has many payor contracts. Don't listen to those who know nothing and have only critical things to say about things they know nothing about. If you want to know more about eCardio, please pick up the phone and call...ask for Robert Jordan. He will be happy to talk with you. Now, do you have the guts to call! or do you wish to keep spewing your vile crap over and over. BTW..eCardio is not getting away with anything. They are the most professional cardiac monitoring company in America.
Agreed. eCardio is one of the cleanest and most ethical companies I've ever worked for. Hands-down. And, for the record, I really enjoy working for them.
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:18 AM
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Agreed. eCardio is one of the cleanest and most ethical companies I've ever worked for. Hands-down. And, for the record, I really enjoy working for them.
You have to be kidding!!! Your management has been run out the state of FL for suspect billing practices when they were Health Monitoring Services and your management was involved in a company called Cardiostaff where the same thing happened now eCardio. A tiger never changes his stripes and the m.o. has always been to hook physicians with the lure of making more money off an interp than they do for some invasive procedures. Tell you what, you have Mr. Jordan post to this site and list the providers who pay daily for an interp. I would love to know which ones do, now that would be gutsy. I saw an eob where eCardio billed $220 per day for the service (technical) and the patients was charged their 20% co-pay for each day for 21 days. That equalled $924 the patient was responsible for and was listed on the eob. On top of that the doctor billed almost $40 per day for the interp and was reimbursed $28 per day and that totaled $588. It's companies like this which have dilouted the healthcare system with crap!!! No way an event monitor, or whatever you claim that monitor to be, should cost this much. No way a physician should get $588 for doing interps when 95% of the strips were NSR. No way you can justify this and that is why Trailblazer stepped in. You love the company because with unethical billing practices like this they are able to pay about $100 per enrollment. Your accounts are very pleased when they learn this. Enjoy while you can because it will not last.
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:27 PM
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I find it so amusing that eCardio is telling customers to bill old holter codes for multiple days. i.e. CPT Code 93237. but interesting that Medicare is telling people that are using the "eVolution" device to bill #93799 with a 26 modifier, which pays less than a event and can only be billed once per 30 days.
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Old 02-22-2010, 09:52 PM
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Really Phil, if you would take this time to make calls on the accounts, you wouldn't have to reply to the thread.............get to work, or hire another consultant to do your job.

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And another... how many do you want? Name ONE contract.

TrailBlazer has become aware of problematic reporting of CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237. These codes are being used by providers in TrailBlazer’s jurisdiction to report long-term cardiac monitoring, sometimes in excess of 30 consecutive days. While these CPT codes are appropriate to use in billing for cardiac monitoring for up to 24 hours (patient is using a wearable device), they are not appropriate to use in billing for long-term monitoring. Additionally, CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237 are subject to the provisions of the “Holter Monitoring – 4C-48AB” Local Coverage Determination, which states the following:

“Holter monitoring is generally not medically necessary more frequently than once every 180 days except to ascertain a response to a change in treatment based on a Holter monitor recording. Therefore, no more than three monitoring studies will be allowed without review of medical records that demonstrate medical necessity (i.e., redetermination, previously known as appeal).”
Long-term cardiac monitoring should be reported using CPT codes 93228 and 93229, or 93268, 93270, 93271 and 93272 when a wearable monitoring device meeting the capabilities described by those codes is utilized. These codes are reported once per 30 days of monitoring. Long-term cardiac monitoring using a wearable monitoring device not meeting the capabilities described by CPT codes 93228, 93229, 93268, 93270, 93271 or 93272 must be billed using CPT code 93799.
Even when coding advice is received from device manufacturers, providers of health care services are responsible for their correct use of CPT codes when billing services to Medicare. As evidenced by the recent settlement of a Boston-based neurologic testing device manufacturer with the Department of Justice and the Department of Health and Human Services Office of the Inspector General over alleged illegal kickbacks and sales and marketing improprieties, the federal government takes such activities seriously and will punish individuals and entities who engage in them.
Physicians and other Medicare providers who have received inappropriate payments for long-term cardiac monitoring are encouraged to return those monies to Medicare. Instructions for making voluntary refunds to TrailBlazer are available on our Web site.
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Old 02-22-2010, 10:18 PM
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Well if it is funny, then laugh your way to the bank Mr. Jay...South FL wanna be weight-lifter!!!!!!!'You are not fooling those who know you and know you are on the boards trashing others..............go to the gym and blow off that steam!
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Old 02-23-2010, 04:31 PM
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You have to be kidding!!! Your management has been run out the state of FL for suspect billing practices when they were Health Monitoring Services and your management was involved in a company called Cardiostaff where the same thing happened now eCardio. A tiger never changes his stripes and the m.o. has always been to hook physicians with the lure of making more money off an interp than they do for some invasive procedures. Tell you what, you have Mr. Jordan post to this site and list the providers who pay daily for an interp. I would love to know which ones do, now that would be gutsy. I saw an eob where eCardio billed $220 per day for the service (technical) and the patients was charged their 20% co-pay for each day for 21 days. That equalled $924 the patient was responsible for and was listed on the eob. On top of that the doctor billed almost $40 per day for the interp and was reimbursed $28 per day and that totaled $588. It's companies like this which have dilouted the healthcare system with crap!!! No way an event monitor, or whatever you claim that monitor to be, should cost this much. No way a physician should get $588 for doing interps when 95% of the strips were NSR. No way you can justify this and that is why Trailblazer stepped in. You love the company because with unethical billing practices like this they are able to pay about $100 per enrollment. Your accounts are very pleased when they learn this. Enjoy while you can because it will not last.

You are correct. I know for a fact that eCardio enrollments are down as customers are becoming aware of the unethical billing practices. The accounts do not want to take the risk of paying back any money. Sure there will always be the practice that will do anything for a buck, but most will come around and use a company they feel is ethical.
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Old 02-23-2010, 09:46 PM
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CardioNet numbers are down as well...................let's see, blame it on reimbursement. Oh, I forgot Randy, it isn't because of your poor customer service.....it's the AE's fault according to your most recent comments to investors.
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Old 02-24-2010, 08:43 AM
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CardioNet numbers are down as well...................let's see, blame it on reimbursement. Oh, I forgot Randy, it isn't because of your poor customer service.....it's the AE's fault according to your most recent comments to investors.
Cardionets numbers are down for two simple reasons;
1. more competition
2. reimbursement issues

you may say that poor customer service is a reason, but that is not a market driven.
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:25 AM
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$'s drives a salesforce...
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Old 02-24-2010, 10:27 PM
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Spoken like someone who is in denial.......................screw-ups on a daily basis, wake up and stop drinking the home office Kool-aid! The reason CardioNet is where or should we say NOT WHERE IT SHOULD BE is simple.....................poor reimbursement (thank you Phil and friends) /lack of contracts and OPERATIONS! But we love the T-MOBILE contract..................did everyone get a free phone????? Did you get a free hair-cut as welll? Somewhere and somehow they paid John a $92,000 bonus for being Randy's friend..........that sucks, as well as the customer service but God Bless the people who work for that department.....they are victoms of the idiots who run the show!!!
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Old 02-25-2010, 10:19 AM
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Poor coverage, poor to no MD reimbursement, poor customer service, and massive EOB's are killing the business.
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Old 02-25-2010, 09:05 PM
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No big deal, get a bill for $7000 after your service.........that kills the business in with any office when the patient comes in with the EOB. Phil, how would you sell against the EOB from hell? Right, I realize you must get with your consultant so we will be patient.
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Old 03-13-2010, 01:19 PM
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Here is what I think is the best part of this conversation. I am sure this is back and forth between eCardio Reps and CardioNet/Lifewatch reps.

The thing that I find most interesting is that CardioNet/Lifewatch were telling their customers to bill under CPT Code 93237 for a while. Hmmmmm? I wonder why they were doing that? And they say eCardio is unethical? I think unethical is telling a customer to bill MCOT technology under 93237 and then complaining about it once their customers got denied.

eCardio built their technology around the 93236/93237 code and matches the description that is provided for those codes. Whether Insurance providers change their opinion on how to pay for 93237 is up for debate, but eCardio is using the code that best matches their technology.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:51 PM
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The reason why Cardionet used the 93237 code is because they had ESTABLISHED contracts with those payors. Ecardio does not have a contract to use those codes. There is a difference. Ecardio is crap and the doctors will tell you that. They are starting to abandon the idea of daily billing because they are afraid medicare/commercial insurance will ask for refunds. It is a matter of time before the hammer falls in Ecardio. Tick...Tock...
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Old 03-13-2010, 08:31 PM
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Here is what I think is the best part of this conversation. I am sure this is back and forth between eCardio Reps and CardioNet/Lifewatch reps.

The thing that I find most interesting is that CardioNet/Lifewatch were telling their customers to bill under CPT Code 93237 for a while. Hmmmmm? I wonder why they were doing that? And they say eCardio is unethical? I think unethical is telling a customer to bill MCOT technology under 93237 and then complaining about it once their customers got denied.

eCardio built their technology around the 93236/93237 code and matches the description that is provided for those codes. Whether Insurance providers change their opinion on how to pay for 93237 is up for debate, but eCardio is using the code that best matches their technology.
Keep in mind it is a 2 day holter code. You built the unit around a holter code. CN and LW had authorization to bill for more than 2 days.
Doesnt it fit an event code by the way? Seems to fit that description better.
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Old 03-14-2010, 10:58 AM
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Here is what I think is the best part of this conversation. I am sure this is back and forth between eCardio Reps and CardioNet/Lifewatch reps.

The thing that I find most interesting is that CardioNet/Lifewatch were telling their customers to bill under CPT Code 93237 for a while. Hmmmmm? I wonder why they were doing that? And they say eCardio is unethical? I think unethical is telling a customer to bill MCOT technology under 93237 and then complaining about it once their customers got denied.

eCardio built their technology around the 93236/93237 code and matches the description that is provided for those codes. Whether Insurance providers change their opinion on how to pay for 93237 is up for debate, but eCardio is using the code that best matches their technology.
How is it up for debate? Looks like it has been decided:

"TrailBlazer has become aware of problematic reporting of CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237. These codes are being used by providers in TrailBlazer’s jurisdiction to report long-term cardiac monitoring, sometimes in excess of 30 consecutive days. While these CPT codes are appropriate to use in billing for cardiac monitoring for up to 24 hours (patient is using a wearable device), they are not appropriate to use in billing for long-term monitoring. Additionally, CPT codes 93235, 93236 and 93237 are subject to the provisions of the “Holter Monitoring – 4C-48AB” Local Coverage Determination"
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Old 03-16-2010, 10:16 PM
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Don't slam me for asking and get off on all the sales rebuttles but does ecardio's monitor has 2 way voince communication built into it?
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Old 03-17-2010, 03:13 AM
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Don't slam me for asking and get off on all the sales rebuttles but does ecardio's monitor has 2 way voince communication built into it?
Are you illiterate?
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:38 PM
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Forgive me for the type o's. I have many faults when it comes to typing. By the way, you showed tremendous class in your response. Furthermore, it must be a sad, lonely and otherwise useless life you lead to be on this site at 2:00 am, proofreading the posts made. Winner!Winner! You are a winner in my book. I can only guess which company you work for.
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Old 03-17-2010, 05:54 PM
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Forgive me for the type o's. I have many faults when it comes to typing. By the way, you showed tremendous class in your response. Furthermore, it must be a sad, lonely and otherwise useless life you lead to be on this site at 2:00 am, proofreading the posts made. Winner!Winner! You are a winner in my book. I can only guess which company you work for.
Pardon me for not visiting this site at the times you deem as acceptable, even if I am on PST. Maybe me being on here at 11 pm makes me a loser in your book. I don't care really. Perhaps you were drunk and are not really illiterate, so I apologize for offending. Can you please clarify your post sir/madam?
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Old 03-17-2010, 06:25 PM
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Since all the monitoring companies come to this site, it would have to be a guess for which company they work for.

No, they do not have 2 way voice. Can I ask why you are wondering.
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Old 03-17-2010, 09:49 PM
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Pardon me for not visiting this site at the times you deem as acceptable, even if I am on PST. Maybe me being on here at 11 pm makes me a loser in your book. I don't care really. Perhaps you were drunk and are not really illiterate, so I apologize for offending. Can you please clarify your post sir/madam?
They are right, you are pathetic!!! I bet you really sell those scooters, yeah, your new nickname, SCOOTER!!!!!
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:24 AM
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They are right, you are pathetic!!! I bet you really sell those scooters, yeah, your new nickname, SCOOTER!!!!!
Are you on the correct thread? This does not make any sense. Idiot.
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:16 PM
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It is a scooter race, and lets see who is in the lead......Ann Sweeney is picking up pace firing employees who try to report her for covering up mistakes, then there is Anna sweeping up the right slinging knives in everyones back. Don't underestimate George in HR, covering up the flaws of many and the mistakes of a few in HR......yes, David was drinking again at the National meeting. You are not our Pal David! Then there is John I. who is cashing in on his high salary and covering up all of the mistakes in the operations department. Is it just me or is anyone else calling to get patients hooked up, still, after all of the changes? Hello, can someone just call and schedule a Medicare patient? I have been waiting for 4 years for this to be fixed, can someone just make the call and get the patient scheduled?
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Old 04-05-2010, 10:26 PM
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It is a scooter race, and lets see who is in the lead......Ann Sweeney is picking up pace firing employees who try to report her for covering up mistakes, then there is Anna sweeping up the right slinging knives in everyones back. Don't underestimate George in HR, covering up the flaws of many and the mistakes of a few in HR......yes, David was drinking again at the National meeting. You are not our Pal David! Then there is John I. who is cashing in on his high salary and covering up all of the mistakes in the operations department. Is it just me or is anyone else calling to get patients hooked up, still, after all of the changes? Hello, can someone just call and schedule a Medicare patient? I have been waiting for 4 years for this to be fixed, can someone just make the call and get the patient scheduled?
sadly, your post made me laugh. All true statements. There is some very disturbing hear say in this company. I heard one of Ann's cronies made some rather crude advances to an employee and the employee was terminated and the offender was offered a different position. So much for going to HR for support when you feel there is something wrong with the work place. As for David, I don't trust him, I felt like he was hanging out and drinking to try and get insight on folks. He's a prick. I don't know what's going on internally but things over the years here have gotten progressively worse, not better. "best in class" service is a joke.
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Old 04-08-2010, 02:16 PM
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Let's not get off task here... the question is how does eCardio get away with it? The real question is, "how much longer can eCardio get away with it?" Only a matter of time before they have to jump off Cardionet and Lifewatch's coattails. They made a good run and lot of people some "easy earned" cash. (That they'll have to pay back eventually)
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Old 05-20-2010, 11:18 PM
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http://www.slideshare.net/eCardio/re...iac-monitoring
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:19 PM
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Let's not get off task here... the question is how does eCardio get away with it? The real question is, "how much longer can eCardio get away with it?" Only a matter of time before they have to jump off Cardionet and Lifewatch's coattails. They made a good run and lot of people some "easy earned" cash. (That they'll have to pay back eventually)
Nobody is paying back anything numb-nuts! Geez, why don't you guys go out and sell something? Sell your product! You worry more about other companies more than your own. No one has EVER given money back and no one ever will. Get off that thought. Coattails? If you guys were any good you would OWN the market by now. Shoot, you have had such a head start you should not be giving away so much market share. Really, it is sad how much the two big knucklehead "Big Guys" have GIVEN away.
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:04 PM
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Trailblazer:
"Physicians and other Medicare providers who have received inappropriate payments for long-term cardiac monitoring are encouraged to return those monies to Medicare. Instructions for making voluntary refunds to TrailBlazer are available on our Web site."
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:08 PM
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Using it for multiple days in a row is different from long term monitoring. Ours is 21 individual days, while CardioNet and lifewatch are 21 consecutive days. Big difference.
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Old 06-01-2010, 02:39 PM
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Nobody is paying back anything numb-nuts! Geez, why don't you guys go out and sell something? Sell your product! You worry more about other companies more than your own. No one has EVER given money back and no one ever will. Get off that thought. Coattails? If you guys were any good you would OWN the market by now. Shoot, you have had such a head start you should not be giving away so much market share. Really, it is sad how much the two big knucklehead "Big Guys" have GIVEN away.
Go look in your manual one how eCardio tells customers to bill. Customer- if you are billing Medicare, bill CPT Code #93799 (nevermind that this is the CPT code for unlisted device which pretty much signals RED FLAGS for billing specialists). If you are billing a private insurance, great! Bill CPT code #93237... heck, bill it for each day the patient wears it! What's that... no we know that's an old holter code but its the closest code to our "unique device". Now I'm no billing expert, but to bill Medicare differently than Privates is not only ill-advised but also fraud or eFraudio for those that have been drinking the Kool Aid you company spews.
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Old 06-01-2010, 11:27 PM
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Go look in your manual one how eCardio tells customers to bill. Customer- if you are billing Medicare, bill CPT Code #93799 (nevermind that this is the CPT code for unlisted device which pretty much signals RED FLAGS for billing specialists). If you are billing a private insurance, great! Bill CPT code #93237... heck, bill it for each day the patient wears it! What's that... no we know that's an old holter code but its the closest code to our "unique device". Now I'm no billing expert, but to bill Medicare differently than Privates is not only ill-advised but also fraud or eFraudio for those that have been drinking the Kool Aid you company spews.
The thing your missing is that doctors are aware of this, and dont care. They just want to make as much profit for their practice as possible.
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Old 06-02-2010, 09:42 AM
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Exactly! This is the main reason it has continued. Many insurance companies have stopped paying on it, but offices are still making more if the get denied on 80% of the claims.
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:45 AM
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Using it for multiple days in a row is different from long term monitoring. Ours is 21 individual days, while CardioNet and lifewatch are 21 consecutive days. Big difference.
Are you serious? Wow, now we know the difference between individual and consecutive 21 days. Hahaha you're a freakin idiot!
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Old 06-03-2010, 01:19 PM
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What ecardio is doing is flat wrong. They know it, however, they are just playing by the rules allowed by CMS and the privates. As long as they allow it and do nothing short of running them out of business will anything change. Sure we can all take 15 yr old holter codes and apply the terminology to today's technology. The difference is we choose not to corrupt the system in such a way. Tigers don't change their stripes and ecardio will continue to be the prost...tes of the monitoring business no matter what the name of their company is on the business card.
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Old 08-30-2010, 11:35 AM
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eCardio is ranked 435 in recent Inc Magazine fastest growing companies!!! Haters keep hating us but we are the best monitoring company out there!!!
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Old 08-30-2010, 02:07 PM
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eCardio is ranked 435 in recent Inc Magazine fastest growing companies!!! Haters keep hating us but we are the best monitoring company out there!!!
Everyone who uses you hates your "service" they say your staff is pitiful. Anyone can buy their way on a list such as INC. Your executive team is good at getting money and paying people such as Frost and Sullivan to heap praise on you. It is short lived, the proof is in the pudding. You guys stink!! And are nothing more than scam artists in business suites.
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Old 08-30-2010, 05:47 PM
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Are YOU serious? Ecardio is the ONLY company to come out with new devices this year and hiring more reps. Last I heard CN was downsizing and the LW reps are few and far between. The service has been so bad in recent years Ecardio is getting more business by accident than on purpose due to the shitty "service" from the bigger two. With the head-start that CN and LW enjoyed they should OWN the market. The door is wide open now.
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