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Old 01-27-2010, 11:44 AM
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Just curious to know some feedback regarding the National Association of Medical Sales Reps and the Registered Medical Sales Rep Certification. Specifically, at a cost of $250 it seems that this may be a worthwhile certification to have but I am interested to hear if this has helped anyone in landing a medical device job and are many medical device companies requiring this certification when hiring candidates. Also, for those who have taken the course, how long does it take to complete in order to get certified? Thanks
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:53 PM
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NO HELP WHATSOEVER. WASTE OF $$$
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Old 02-08-2010, 06:36 PM
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I have been in the medical device sales business for 25 years, as a sales rep, sales manager, and most recently a medical sales recruiter. NAMSR is a SCAM, and no company places any crdibility whatsoever in the fact that you have been "certified" by them. In fact, it may actually work against you because the hiring manager will question why you were so stupid to pay $250 to this organization!
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Old 02-22-2010, 01:09 PM
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Just curious to know some feedback regarding the National Association of Medical Sales Reps and the Registered Medical Sales Rep Certification. Specifically, at a cost of $250 it seems that this may be a worthwhile certification to have but I am interested to hear if this has helped anyone in landing a medical device job and are many medical device companies requiring this certification when hiring candidates. Also, for those who have taken the course, how long does it take to complete in order to get certified? Thanks
I work at GE Healthcare and I was hired by them because I did possess a RMSR Certfication. It takes about 70 hours to complete the program. Once you start interviewing you will find out that medical device companies seek applicants who have their RMSR Certification.
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Old 02-24-2010, 02:36 PM
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I am interviewing with Medtronic and they are looking for me to complete the RMSR Certifcation in order to move forward with the process. Where did you get your RMSR Training? I want this job badly, please help!!!
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Old 02-27-2010, 04:34 PM
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I think it is important for an actual RMSR graduate to share some great information. I had always been interested in a medical sales job. When I began research about a new career, a friend of mine who worked in medical sales for over 10 years recommended the RMSR training course. About 7 weeks after I completed my RMSR Certification, I started my new sales career with Siemens Medical. I actually found the information for the job in the National Association of Medical Sales Rep Employment Center. I recommend the RMSR Certificaton to anyone looking to get into medical device sales.
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Old 03-17-2010, 07:25 PM
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There is always a risk when taking a course from an institution that you probably know very little about. Certainly, the National Association of Medical Sales Reps is well recognized by medical device companies and the industry sales reps. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith. Because of what I heard from some medical device reps, I felt that it would be o.k. but still I was nervous that it could turn out to be a Mickey Mouse course. Paying for the course ($245) can be an expensive endeavor for some of us.

As an experienced business woman, I was feeling a little cynical, but actually the RMSR course exceeded my expectations. I found all of the industry information to be comprehensive, informative, enlightening and really preparing students to have a good foundation prior to embarking into this very tecnical business.

I would certainly recommend the RMSR course because not only did I learn alot but it did lead to me accepting a medical device sales rep position. I have read some negative comments above and believe me there is no way that any medical company would look at industry training and education as a negative. Those comments are from misinformed bloggers. The RMSR Certification was certainly the main factor in obtaining my initial interviews with over 5 different medical equipment companies. I will tell you that I was offered a job because I interview very well. I typically do not respond to these type of blogs but felt that someone needed to set the record straight here.
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:03 PM
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There is always a risk when taking a course from an institution that you probably know very little about. Certainly, the National Association of Medical Sales Reps is well recognized by medical device companies and the industry sales reps. Sometimes you have to take a leap of faith. Because of what I heard from some medical device reps, I felt that it would be o.k. but still I was nervous that it could turn out to be a Mickey Mouse course. Paying for the course ($245) can be an expensive endeavor for some of us.

As an experienced business woman, I was feeling a little cynical, but actually the RMSR course exceeded my expectations. I found all of the industry information to be comprehensive, informative, enlightening and really preparing students to have a good foundation prior to embarking into this very tecnical business.

I would certainly recommend the RMSR course because not only did I learn alot but it did lead to me accepting a medical device sales rep position. I have read some negative comments above and believe me there is no way that any medical company would look at industry training and education as a negative. Those comments are from misinformed bloggers. The RMSR Certification was certainly the main factor in obtaining my initial interviews with over 5 different medical equipment companies. I will tell you that I was offered a job because I interview very well. I typically do not respond to these type of blogs but felt that someone needed to set the record straight here.
I broke into surgical device from B2B with no prior medical experience. I considered this course, but then spoke with my friends in the industry and realized any company worth their salt would provide me with comprehensive training. My friends in device had never even heard of this program when I inquired. But to each his own. This was just my personal experience, and everyone is different. I landed my gig because I CAN SELL. period. not because I completed a class that anyone with $245 can take.
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Old 03-23-2010, 07:31 PM
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I think it is important for an actual RMSR graduate to share some great information. I had always been interested in a medical sales job. When I began research about a new career, a friend of mine who worked in medical sales for over 10 years recommended the RMSR training course. About 7 weeks after I completed my RMSR Certification, I started my new sales career with Siemens Medical. I actually found the information for the job in the National Association of Medical Sales Rep Employment Center. I recommend the RMSR Certificaton to anyone looking to get into medical device sales.
I applied to medical sales positions for 3 months and received no interviews. I then took the RMSR training program and received my RMSR Certification. When I added the RMSR certification to my resume I then obtained 3 interviews in 2 weeks. It worked for me.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:31 PM
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To the person above who thought the RMSR certification was a waste of time you should probably call the medical device companies. I have gotten a hold of 4 different companies and 2 required it, 1 highly preferred it and the other strongly recommended it. Maybe you were an industry outsider. To each their own.
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:45 PM
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To the person above who thought the RMSR certification was a waste of time you should probably call the medical device companies. I have gotten a hold of 4 different companies and 2 required it, 1 highly preferred it and the other strongly recommended it. Maybe you were an industry outsider. To each their own.
you obviously do not work in the OR. its your specific company training/credentials that allow you to be in the Operating Room and provide technical assistance to surgeons. I work for a major device player and have never even heard of this. but like you said, to each his own...
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Old 04-12-2010, 04:31 PM
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I thank the NAMSR continuously for the great information the RMSR Certification and training program provided me. I have always been interested in the medical device sales field. When I began research about a new career, a friend of mine who has worked in medical sales for over 10 years recommended the RMSR Certification training course. I am ready to start my new career with Siemens Medical which I found the information for the job in the NAMSR Employment Center. I will recommend this course to many others. I will try and keep this blog posted of my success.
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Old 04-12-2010, 05:45 PM
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To all of the naysayers on this blog I can only tell you from my experience that they are 100% inaccurate. I recently interviewed with a top 20 medical device company who is utilizing the NAMSR to fill over 130 entry level medical sales jobs. They are looking for applicants that have received the RMSR training.

The RMSR Certification is basically a marketability booster. First, certification training listed on your resume demonstrates your ability and your desire to stay current; this is no small task in the medical industry where skills can become obsolete as quickly as they became cutting edge. Second, it shows that you take initiative, a trait many employers look for. The medical field continues to be a worker's market. Almost anyone who's any good at all is able to get work. But when it comes to landing just the position you're after, you'll always benefit by differentiating yourself from your competitors, especially when it comes to the more desirable positions.

Usually those with higher salaries and cutting edge work will have plenty of applicants lining up for consideration. Picture a hiring manager sorting through a pile of resumes, searching for clues that elevate one candidate above another. She may have six resumes that indicate the desired experience level and qualifications. Yours includes a RMSR (Registered Medical Sales Representative) Certification and believe me from my experience it will lead to interviews.
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:36 PM
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Just mentioning RMSR is valid and recognized within the medical device industry. It is very well branded and respected.
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:05 PM
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I think it's an extremely comprehensive program-the RMSR Certification is designed to help people enter a medical sales career and allow medical device employers to hire trained applicants. The four important components of the system involve medical industry knowledge, healthcare industry selling techniques, medical industry selling regulations, and medical terminlogy. Many companies are requiring NAMSR members and new hire to participate in the RMSR certification program. This is the only program I've seen designed to help both medical sales applicants and the medical equipment companies.
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:31 PM
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I have been a recruiter for medical sales reps for over 12 years and I can tell you that medical and industry knowledge is needed to qualify for job openings. A broad range of knowledge from understanding medical terminology to managed care reimbursement is required. As a medical sales representative you must be able to understand, communicate, and apply large amounts of complex medical information, such as diagnoses, diseases, treatments, and clinical studies to physicians. To completely understand the healthcare industry, a future medical sales rep candidate needs to know the basics about managed care, formularies, buying groups and physician trends. It is also vital that medical sales candidates have some introduction to the healthcare and medical industry.
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:36 PM
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I just called 11 medical device companies today and only got to talk to 4 actual people. Just to let everyone know 3 out of 4 did strongly recommend the RMSR Certification.
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Old 04-13-2010, 08:03 PM
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I really appreciate it what the RMSR Certification and the NAMSR did for me. I really enjoyed the RMSR Ttraining. It was interesting and informative. I enjoyed it more to your than any of my university courses which I took long ago. The Employment Center was vital as that is where I found my new medical sales jobs. Good job to all at the association.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:37 AM
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First, certification training listed on your resume demonstrates your education, technical skills and ability to sell medical devices; this is no small task in the medical industry where skills can become obsolete as quickly as they became cutting edge. Second, it shows that you take initiative, a trait many employers look for. The medical field continues to be a worker's market. Almost anyone who's any good at all is able to get work. But when it comes to landing just the position you're after, you'll always benefit by differentiating yourself from your competitors, especially when it comes to the more desirable positions. Usually those with higher salaries and cutting edge work will have plenty of applicants lining up for consideration. Picture a hiring manager sorting through a pile of resumes, searching for clues that elevate one candidate above another.
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Old 04-17-2010, 01:40 PM
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RMSR TRAINING--I work for a large staffing firm which recruits for medical sales reps and many of our large medical clients will ask for as well as seek out the RMSR certificaion - training in resumes. I recommend this training to several of our candidate clients. The RMSR training should help you.
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Old 04-17-2010, 11:15 PM
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this is a joke. how many trolls are on this board???
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Old 04-19-2010, 08:37 AM
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I hope you are not calling me a troll. What does that mean anyway? I certainly owe my start in my medical sales career to the NAMSR. I have worked as a medical rep for Arrow Int'l for 2 years thanks to the NAMSR. I completed their RMSR training and utilized their employment center to find Arrow. I had never heard of the company until I found them on the NAMSR website. I would recommend the RMSR training to anyone looking to work as a Medical Device Sales rep
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Old 04-20-2010, 07:50 PM
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I have been employed by several large reputable companies, Hallmark Cards, Coke, Pepsi, Colgate and J & J. I was recently laid off and did some soul searching and really like the medical field, but prefer to sell tangible items (medical device) vs intangible (pharmaceutical). I have interviewed with one device company who likes RMSR Certified candidates and from reading these posts I have decided to take the RMSR training. I do have a MBA as well and I am willing to relocate for the right opportunity. Please respond to this post if interested.
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Old 04-22-2010, 07:56 AM
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I received this in an e-mail and seems to be worth your time.
Submit your resume to Stryker today!

Stryker Medical offers results-driven people a place where they can make a difference. It is Stryker's privilege to create medical technology that exceeds our customers' expectations and improves peoples' lives around the world. They give you the opportunity to develop your career based on your strengths and potential, including the possibility to move geographically, functionally, laterally and vertically.

Stryker is a broadly based, global leader in medical technology that consistently delivers exceptional results. We are one of the largest players in the $28.6 billion worldwide orthopaedic market and our products improve medical professionals' and patients' lives in over 120 countries.
($95k-$225k)
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Old 04-28-2010, 01:41 PM
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The RMSR Certificationis a marketability booster. First, certification training listed on your resume demonstrates your ability and your desire to stay current; this is no small task in the medical industry where skills can become obsolete as quickly as they became cutting edge. Second, it shows that you take initiative, a trait many employers look for. The medical field continues to be a worker's market. Almost anyone who's any good at all is able to get work. But when it comes to landing just the position you're after, you'll always benefit by differentiating yourself from your competitors, especially when it comes to the more desirable positions.
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Old 04-28-2010, 10:03 PM
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the TROLL is back LOL
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:35 PM
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I would like to use this forum to extend thanks and my appreciation to the National Association of Medical Sales Representative staff for everything you have done to help me with my RMSR Medical Sales Certification. The medical sales training was wonderful and extremely informative about the medical device industry. Having no experience in the field, it is always so much more solid to possess industry training and credentials when applying for positions. You have been so helpful and supportive during this "leap" I am looking forward to working as a Medical Device Rep with GE Medical.
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:19 PM
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Thanks for your help! I appreciate it. I really enjoyed the RMSR Ttraining. It was interesting and informative. I enjoyed it more to your than any of my university courses which I took long ago. The Employment Center was vital as that is where I found my new medical sales job. Good job to all at the association.
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Old 05-03-2010, 09:31 PM
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14 years with major med companies...MDT, BSC, etc...never heard of this.
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Old 05-07-2010, 10:24 AM
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Well, I was into stage three of an interview with a company and the recruiter recommended I take this course to further my chances if I wanted the job.
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Old 06-03-2010, 05:58 PM
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I do recommend GlobalMedical Alliance as a good company. Their services are free but they require all reps to have their RMSR Certification before they hire them.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:04 PM
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Seven years in device, first I heard of it...I'm on my third interview for another device job and I am nervous that they never brought it up...
Maybe because it is bs
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Old 06-04-2010, 08:57 PM
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Seven years in device, first I heard of it...I'm on my third interview for another device job and I am nervous that they never brought it up...
Maybe because it is bs
haha. touche
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:02 PM
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I work for a large staffing firm which recruits for medical sales reps and many of our large medical clients will ask for as well as seek out the RMSR training in resumes. I recommend this training to several of our candidate clients. The RMSR training should help you.
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Old 06-16-2010, 07:03 PM
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I certainly owe my start in my medical sales career to the NAMSR. I have worked as a medical rep for Arrow Int'l for 2 years thanks to the NAMSR. I completed their RMSR training and utilized their employment center to find Arrow. I had never heard of the company until I found them on the NAMSR website. I would recommend the RMSR training to anyone looking to work as a Medical Device Sales rep.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:34 PM
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this is hilarious. two posts back to back, with positive comments. anybody reading this thread and moves forward with the class is a total retard.
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Old 06-16-2010, 09:49 PM
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I certainly owe my start in my medical sales career to the NAMSR. I have worked as a medical rep for Arrow Int'l for 2 years thanks to the NAMSR. I completed their RMSR training and utilized their employment center to find Arrow. I had never heard of the company until I found them on the NAMSR website. I would recommend the RMSR training to anyone looking to work as a Medical Device Sales rep.
I used to work for Arrow came from B2B and have never heard of NAMSR. You could have saved your $ and still got the job . If you are still with Arrow after 2 years you are not that smart more $ to be made elsewhere.
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Old 06-17-2010, 01:53 PM
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If you think you can break into medical device sales without any industry training or education then you are dreaming. DME companies look for education, training and/or certification from applicants. Without it you will not be called in for interviews, I can guarantee it. I work for Stryker and we would never look at applicants without it.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:11 PM
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I have been reading the above posts and I am a little confused so I did some research. From what I researched the RMSR Certification is certainly a factor in getting selected for interviews and qualifying for jobs. Most companies I researched recognize and certainly prefer RMSR certified candidates. Below is information from a recent Arrow Medical job posting:

Arrow International, Inc. develops, manufactures and markets a broad range of catheter- based therapeutic products. From advanced catheters to cardiac assist devices, everything we make is carefully engineered to address the clinical needs of physicians, nurses and patients.

Qualifications (Medical Sales Associate): Previous employment, education or certification in the areas of nursing, medical devices or medical sales with a strong healthcare background are essential.
Only serious inquiries, please. Position is available immediately. Please send resume and references.
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Old 06-17-2010, 02:39 PM
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I want to thank who ever from CafePharma sent me info on the above blog post about Arrow not paying our reps very well. As a District Sales Mgr. for several years with Arrow I can confirm that we have an excellent compensation package for all of our medical reps. Most of our sales reps have been with us for several years and look forward to a long career with our company.

I can also inform you that applicants who possess medical device industry it will always be a positive attribute. Whether it is the RMSR Certification or the AIMS Sales training it is all important and looked highly upon from the employer perspective.
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Old 06-17-2010, 04:15 PM
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I have been in the medical device sales business for 25 years, as a sales rep, sales manager, and most recently a medical sales recruiter. NAMSR is a SCAM, and no company places any crdibility whatsoever in the fact that you have been "certified" by them. In fact, it may actually work against you because the hiring manager will question why you were so stupid to pay $250 to this organization!
Yeah right, the next thing this person posts will state not to put your college degree on your resume because the companies will think you were to stupid to pay thousands of $ to go to college. Medical employers always value education and training in the industry.
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Old 06-17-2010, 07:54 PM
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I want to thank who ever from CafePharma sent me info on the above blog post about Arrow not paying our reps very well. As a District Sales Mgr. for several years with Arrow I can confirm that we have an excellent compensation package for all of our medical reps. Most of our sales reps have been with us for several years and look forward to a long career with our company.

I can also inform you that applicants who possess medical device industry it will always be a positive attribute. Whether it is the RMSR Certification or the AIMS Sales training it is all important and looked highly upon from the employer perspective.
As a former rep with Arrow/Teleflex you are full of sh*t. Reps make chump change top rep might make $140K avg rep is making $70-90K. The PICC is eroding your CVC business upgrades don't make you any money because they just cover the declining usage. Then there is the $2 Million in back orders. Tough to make make $ with no products to sell. Reps are leaving in droves. I will give Arrow credit for being a great place to break in but that is it. Reps last two years then bolt for more money.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:12 PM
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I work for Medtronic and we are hiring in many territories. If you work at Arrow I would certainly apply with us because your medical sales experience and training you would be a good fit.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:13 PM
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I would like to use this forum to extend thanks and my appreciation to the National Association of Medical Sales Representative staff for everything you have done to help me with my RMSR Medical Sales Certification. The medical sales training was wonderful and extremely informative about the medical device industry. Having no experience in the field, it is always so much more solid to possess industry training and credentials when applying for positions. You have been so helpful and supportive during this "leap" I am looking forward to working as a Medical Device Rep with GE Medical.
What division do you work in? I want to utilize my RMSR Certification to interview with GE Healthcare.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:30 PM
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I have found in my medical sales job pursuit that knowledge is power, and Certifications are powerful! To break into a medical sales career today requires industry recognized certification, as well as some sales experience.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:47 PM
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I would recommend the RMSR to anyone!!! I got what i wanted out of it......a job.
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Old 06-22-2010, 02:53 PM
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Could someone please tell me how it helps and what to do. I received the certification and have gotton zero interest. I have over 10+ years B2B sales in banking even working with doctors with financial services. It seems to be a waste.
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Old 06-22-2010, 08:32 PM
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I do have a solid sales background and have been told that medical sales would be a good industry for me. I have been advised to get some medical sales training, should I take the RMSR or the AIMS program. Thanks.
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Old 06-22-2010, 11:12 PM
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Both are a waste of money. If you have had success with either please post your contact info and lets get real. I personally believe AIMS or NAMSR employees are trolling the board making false anonymous statements.
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Old 06-23-2010, 01:32 AM
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I have been in the medical device industry over 25 years. It is interesting reading all these comments about certifications and value to the hiring company. Now we have hospital certifications (Re: RepTrax, Vendormate, etc that are required to EVEN set foot in a medical facility. My!!! Have times changed. Let's hear from some of the geezers out there that have been in the industry 15 plus years. Is all of this necessary???
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